00:01:42 | cryzed | https://gist.github.com/cryzed/a50fe74f9cd559a07161 Why do I get "undeclared identifier T" for this code? |
00:01:48 | cryzed | do I need to do something special to use generics? |
00:02:14 | def- | cryzed: proc `$`[T] |
00:02:19 | cryzed | ah. |
00:02:24 | cryzed | thank you def- |
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01:18:13 | nicktick | please recommend an IDE with code completion for developing nim program under windows. |
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01:53:14 | cryzed | nicktick, atom + nim |
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01:53:22 | cryzed | nicktick, aporia ide |
01:53:30 | cryzed | nicktick, hopefully soon sublime + nimlime too |
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01:56:35 | nicktick | cryzed, there is bug with the windows version aporia(installed with nim-0.12.0), the editor zone will become dark with multi-files opened. |
01:56:55 | nicktick | is there auto-completion with atom+nim ? |
01:56:57 | cryzed | nicktick, then I can recommend only Atom + the nim plugin |
01:56:58 | cryzed | yes. |
01:57:19 | nicktick | cryzed, thx! |
01:57:24 | cryzed | no problem :) |
01:57:32 | cryzed | remember that you have to install the nim thing first |
01:58:35 | nicktick | is there way to auto-complete in vim(under windows)? |
01:59:01 | cryzed | uhm I'm sure, but I'm not familiar with vim at all |
01:59:04 | nicktick | I tried vim.nim, but don't know how to make it work. |
02:01:09 | cryzed | nicktick, sorry I have no idea either |
02:02:00 | cryzed | Araq, would something like a "first" proc be a good addition to sequtils maybe? I.e. return only the first item that fulfills the predicate? |
02:02:16 | cryzed | Can't seem to find it |
02:03:45 | nicktick | cryzed, which nim plugin ? |
02:04:01 | cryzed | the one just called nim |
02:04:01 | cryzed | wait |
02:04:07 | cryzed | https://atom.io/packages/nim this one |
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03:45:36 | BitPuffin|osx | Araq: http://www.othersidetease.com/p089gg.php |
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10:53:08 | gour | morning |
10:53:30 | gour | Araq: how is progress with 'not nil'? |
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11:08:42 | vegansk | Hi! Where can I find dll's with nim dependencies for the devel branch (x86 and x64)? |
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15:22:38 | Araq | gour: I think I will delay it until v1 is out |
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16:43:50 | yglukhov | hey guys, what do you think about this? https://github.com/yglukhov/nimble-tag |
16:45:24 | Arrrrr | Would be nice to click on those bottons and run nimble against the repo |
16:45:33 | Arrrrr | *buttons |
16:45:59 | Araq | dom96: we need line buffered IO on windows like Python does it |
16:48:53 | yglukhov | Arrrrr: true, but that would require some work in nimble. some multi-platform work :) |
16:50:11 | Arrrrr | Yes, and make plugins for every major browser |
16:51:45 | ephja | won't an URI association do? |
16:51:55 | ephja | anyway, looks good! |
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17:11:31 | nchambers | Araq, nim doesn't have linebuffered io on windows? |
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17:35:56 | gour | Araq: so, post 1.0? btw, i believe you did research a bit when choosing rst as markup to be used for docs. i was attracted to asciidoc, but decided to use rst since my static-site-generator (nikola) also has better support for it, but wonder, in case you were considering asciidoc which features attracted you to it? (i'm asking since i appreciate your opinion) |
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18:05:08 | Araq | nchambers: it does but it's broken |
18:05:22 | Araq | and it's not Nim's fault but microsoft's |
18:05:33 | Araq | the bug is in the C runtime |
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18:18:55 | Araq | gour: yeah, since we will do it incrementally anyway I don't think this should delay the release of v1 |
18:19:10 | Araq | asciidoc vs rst hmmm |
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18:21:19 | Araq | I don't know, I picked RST because i like the syntax and it's the standard doc syntax for Python |
18:21:28 | ldlework | rst is pretty much the standard |
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18:22:13 | Araq | and in general these ascii based markup languages are all equally hard to parse |
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18:22:52 | Araq | maybe markdown is slightly easier than RST to parse, but I don't think the difference is significant |
18:25:01 | ldlework | rst supports directive extensions which are used to great effect in Sphinx |
18:25:22 | ldlework | markdown supports a tiny core subset of rst's available default functionality |
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18:25:53 | ldlework | asciidoc is not bad, but rst seems more survivable |
18:26:02 | federico3 | survivable? |
18:26:05 | gour | i agree that rst is simpler than asciidoc(tor) and i like it's based on python instead of ruby |
18:26:57 | gour | however, i was surprised that e.g. rst does not allow inline markup to be nested which is possible in asciidoc...but by using roles one can workaround it |
18:27:22 | ldlework | federico3: yeah in that it seems in wider use, even though the places where asciidoc is used don't seem like they'll be going away soon either (publishing) |
18:27:27 | federico3 | rst and md are ok for very simple stuff but they can't compare with asciidoc for anything complex |
18:28:19 | ldlework | Do we ever plan on publishing the Nim docs in book form? |
18:28:30 | gour | Araq: is there any schedule for 1.0 besides "when it's ready" ? |
18:28:47 | ldlework | If not, then rst probably falls right on the line of flexiblity and approachability. |
18:29:35 | federico3 | ldlework: do you find asciidoc's syntax more difficult than rst and md? |
18:29:57 | ldlework | federico3: certainly more than markdown. markdown is a toy compared to rst and asciidoc. |
18:30:18 | ldlework | federico3: and yes, asciidoc is probably a bit more of an investment to learn than rst |
18:30:40 | ldlework | Though I'm not against asciidoc, its pretty awesome. |
18:30:53 | ldlework | If I were writing a book, it'd most likely be in asciidoc. |
18:31:00 | federico3 | http://hyperpolyglot.org/lightweight-markup |
18:31:19 | ldlework | I mean, if we could use org-mode that'd be ideal. ^_^ |
18:31:34 | gour | i'd like to use same markup for all my writings from blog posts to larger docs |
18:32:50 | ldlework | Why? It sounds like you're equivocating what its like to write at length and to write something small. |
18:33:06 | Araq | gour: I use RST for everything. |
18:33:19 | Araq | including my presentations. |
18:33:45 | gour | Araq: thanks for encouragement...i really like nikola ssg ;) |
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18:35:06 | Araq | federico3: what do I miss when I write a book in RST as opposed to asciidoc? |
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18:49:40 | federico3 | Araq: asciidoc is meant to be used for book. Stuff like generating pdfs, epubs. Inserting pictures, including files, doing relative linking. Styling. Programmable attributes and text substitutian |
18:50:41 | Araq | I do all these things with RST, sometimes I use a postprocessor on the generated TeX/HTML |
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18:54:11 | federico3 | like for LaTeX vs a word processor, you have try out every feature and see how it works for you |
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18:56:05 | Araq | yeah and these days I even try to avoid any tool that *produces* LaTeX ;-) |
18:56:21 | Araq | including nimdoc's LaTeX target. |
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19:19:46 | ephja | can the 32-bit SDL DLL's linked to in the wiki be used with 64-bit too? |
19:24:15 | ephja | nevermind |
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