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09:54:41dom96Good morning
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12:27:20PMunchHmm, I'm trying to compare a possibly unassigned variable to nil to see if it has been initialized or not. But I get an error saying that I can't compare between it's type and nil. Is there another way to check for uninitialized?
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12:33:17PMunchHmm I found this: forum.nim-lang.org/t/2168
12:33:26PMunchBut it appears that fields is undeclared
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12:36:57dom96what type is it?
12:41:08dom96PMunch: ^
12:41:12PMunchIt's a Rect from the sdl wrapper. Which is defined as a tuple
12:41:24PMunchRect* = tuple[x, y: cint, w, h: cint]
12:42:30dom96well, like that thread says. Tuples cannot possibly be nil because they are value types.
12:42:40dom96var x: Rect # x is not nil here
12:42:49PMunchBut what is it?
12:42:58dom96each of its fields are initialised to their default values.
12:43:05PMunchIs it just a tuple with 0,0,0,0? (Since Nim nulls it's types)
12:43:10dom96yes
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12:43:17PMunchHmm, okay
12:44:10dom96maybe you should introduce a bool that determines if its been initialised?
12:44:46PMunchWell, it doesn't really have to be initialized
12:45:09PMunchI'm parsing through a format that through two fields give the position and the size
12:45:29PMunchAnd on whichever came first I just wanted to create a new one
12:46:09dom96maybe you could use this pattern: proc parse(value: var Rect): bool ?
12:46:42PMunchBut since it doesn't have to be initialized the problem disappears
12:47:50PMunchThe format consists of a list of names, with indented fields for position, size and other attributes
12:48:41PMunchWhen I hit an unindented field I'll just create an object for the values I've gathered so far and then reuse the actual fields
12:48:55PMunchSince value types are passed by value it should work fine :)
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13:48:38yglukhovAraq: i want to fix getCurrentException/getCurrentExceptionMsg on js but it will conflict with my existing pr. should i wait for merge or append it to existing pr?
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16:39:18dom96yglukhov: maybe you could put it in another branch and add a reminder for yourself to create a PR when your other PR is merged?
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17:25:57HogynCymraeghi. I'm experimenting with calling into a C dynamic library and am in the middle of converting a string-like type made up of a length and an array of chars. How can i convert a nim string into an array of cchars? thanks
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17:49:40dom96HogynCymraeg: cstring(myString)
17:51:17HogynCymraegdom96: wow, ok. the array is already allocated mind. does this do a memcpy under the hood?
17:51:55dom96Not unless you assign it to something IIRC
17:52:37HogynCymraegok thanks. I'll try that.
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21:36:12libmanWhat's the official term for Nim programmers (like how Go programmers call themselves "gophers" (or was it "nuts?))?
21:37:04euantorPlease say we don't have one. I think those pet names are completely stupid.
21:37:34euantor"Rustaceans" are what the rust people call Rust developers
21:37:35libmanNimmers? Nim kings? Nimrods? Nimieties? :P
21:37:38euantorJust ugh
21:37:54euantorWhy not "developers" or "programmers"?
21:38:06euantorJust like we have always been called
21:38:15libmanNah. We're the kings! :P
21:43:21dom96libman: nimians
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22:01:59SunDwarfmachoists
22:04:47PMunchI kinda like Nimrods :P
22:07:28libmanWe gotta justify the king's crown logo somehow...
22:09:05*libman imagines a throne made out of golden Java cups and stuffed gophers. :P
22:10:02PMunchHaha
22:10:03libmanhttps://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/previews/round13/
22:10:16PMunchI think the logo is a kickback to the biblical kind Nimrod
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22:10:21PMunchking*
22:10:38libmanRight now it looks like Golang is king... ^^
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22:11:31libmanNim nawak at 45% of Go fasthttp...
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22:28:11NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel 7e3ebc1 Dominik Picheta [+5 ±0 -0]: Adds GitLab CI config.... 129 more lines
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22:41:34libmanNim has so many features it makes me realize how little I know about programming... Perhaps it's just that years of Python / PHP / etc scripting have rotted my brain. I did some Pascal and Visual C++ in the 90s, but it seemed a lot simpler back then.
22:42:48libmanDoes Nim also have the superlative of being the programming language with the highest feature count (by which I mean language features, not libraries)? Someone should do a comparison table.
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22:54:42SentreenThat probably depends on what you call a feature.
22:55:24SentreenAlso, #features is a bad metric for a language. Adding features is relatively easy, making sure all of your fancy features work together is the real tricky part
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23:54:52libmanIt's always nice to have superlatives (or at least "within X% of first place" stats) for promoting something.
23:55:35libmanMaybe only 1% of people out there care about a particular superlative, but it still makes a difference in getting a language like Nim off the ground.
23:56:34libmanThus my interest in making Nim "the programming language with the most unencumbered clear no-hassle no-lawyers-needed permissively-licensed ecosystem" - (ex. https://github.com/andreaferretti/rosencrantz/issues/9 )