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| 04:07:16 | FromDiscord | <thebiglebobsky_> just a question i havent used this since maybe late 2024 or early 2025 but why has there been no updates to this amazing programming language |
| 04:09:44 | FromDiscord | <thebiglebobsky_> and another thing is instead of trying to go mainstream and catch a massive audience why doesn't the language try to force their way into main audience which is cybersecurity |
| 04:10:48 | FromDiscord | <thebiglebobsky_> oh im sorry i just answered my first question i looked at the blog on the website and saw it still getting updates just those updates arent posted here |
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| 04:30:46 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> In reply to @thebiglebobsky_ "just a question": there has been a lot of compiler updates since then wdym? and a whole V3 of the compiler |
| 04:30:50 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> (edit) "has" => "have" |
| 04:31:08 | FromDiscord | <thebiglebobsky_> In reply to @_timurski "there have been a": ye i saw that in the nim website blogs |
| 04:31:10 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> In reply to @thebiglebobsky_ "oh im sorry i": ah mb didn't read this fast enough |
| 05:24:55 | FromDiscord | <Laylie> i don't want cybersecurity to be nim's main audience |
| 06:14:23 | FromDiscord | <mratsim> In reply to @thebiglebobsky_ "and another thing is": @tomas198011 How do you "force your way" into cybersecurity? |
| 06:14:59 | FromDiscord | <mratsim> In reply to @thebiglebobsky_ "and another thing is": How do you "force your way" into cybersecurity? |
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| 07:55:37 | FromDiscord | <0ffh> In reply to @mratsim "How do you "force": Probably abduct the researcher's daughters and write a pointed letter. |
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| 08:32:09 | FromDiscord | <kapendev> I don't even know what cybercurities do. Just make games guys. |
| 08:53:46 | FromDiscord | <0ffh> In reply to @kapendev "I don't even know": They like to use less common languages like Nim to write exploits.↵Thank that for most AV snake oil warnings regarding programs written in Nm. |
| 08:55:04 | FromDiscord | <zumi.dxy> the more damning factor is how ""obscure"" nim seems to be |
| 08:55:21 | FromDiscord | <zumi.dxy> go has google, rust has the hearts and minds |
| 08:55:37 | FromDiscord | <zumi.dxy> they could have lobbied AV vendors easily |
| 08:55:52 | FromDiscord | <zumi.dxy> got the feeling this, we're on our own |
| 08:56:03 | FromDiscord | <0ffh> In reply to @zumi.dxy "go has google, rust": Rust has massive institutional backing or it wouldn't have captured those "hearts and minds" the way it did. |
| 08:56:12 | FromDiscord | <zumi.dxy> true |
| 08:56:24 | FromDiscord | <zumi.dxy> but I wasn't sure if the institutional backing came later |
| 08:56:39 | FromDiscord | <zumi.dxy> it used to be a mozilla project |
| 08:56:42 | FromDiscord | <0ffh> In reply to @zumi.dxy "but I wasn't sure": Baked in from the very start IIRC. |
| 08:57:11 | FromDiscord | <0ffh> In reply to @zumi.dxy "it used to be": Which is considerable institutional backing all on it's own.- |
| 08:57:20 | FromDiscord | <zumi.dxy> yeah... |
| 09:02:31 | FromDiscord | <virtualpierogi> rust compiling small hello world for raylib prodeced like 14gb of build artifacts for me |
| 09:03:17 | FromDiscord | <zumi.dxy> `node_modules` is nothing compared to `target` |
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| 09:10:51 | FromDiscord | <kapendev> The situation on windows about virus warnings is bad in general for every language imo. |
| 09:17:17 | FromDiscord | <kapendev> That's one reason why I don't make windows games and focus only on wasm for gamejams. |
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| 14:45:34 | FromDiscord | <summarity> Sanity check, before I file a potential bug, does this make sense: https://gist.github.com/turbo/043f641083da3ca47208410f2e4953fb ? |
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| 16:31:22 | FromDiscord | <toitle3554> In reply to @thebiglebobsky_ "and another thing is": isn't popularity in cybersecurity basically the main reason windows automatically blocks nim programs? the #1 nim github repo after the compiler is a guide on how to write malware |
| 17:51:52 | FromDiscord | <mratsim> In reply to @toitle3554 "isn't popularity in cybersecurity": it's not windows. It's lazy antivirus pretending to be AI and blocking syscalls |
| 17:52:49 | FromDiscord | <toitle3554> I see |
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