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| 06:46:09 | FromDiscord | <[Next-System] systemblue> I'm boring guys |
| 06:46:30 | FromDiscord | <ardisan_> Me too, bro |
| 06:51:51 | FromDiscord | <[Next-System] systemblue> I'm busy with projects but boring because projects are so boring... |
| 06:51:56 | FromDiscord | <[Next-System] systemblue> SIMD, Cryptography, Utility... |
| 06:51:58 | FromDiscord | <[Next-System] systemblue> all boring |
| 07:01:16 | FromDiscord | <narimiran> If somebody's interested, here's another ~~meaningless~~ benchmark comparing different languages. And Nim is currently not standing very well:↵https://github.com/Syzygies/Compare |
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| 07:05:01 | FromDiscord | <[Next-System] systemblue> https://github.com/Syzygies/Compare↵↵I think it's not trusty |
| 07:05:16 | FromDiscord | <[Next-System] systemblue> because F# and Scala is VM Langauge, JIT compiled, but faster than Native lang? |
| 07:05:44 | FromDiscord | <[Next-System] systemblue> noobs can know that it's impossible in common situation |
| 07:06:10 | FromDiscord | <[Next-System] systemblue> and Scalal Native is slower than Scala?? it's impossible too |
| 07:06:19 | FromDiscord | <[Next-System] systemblue> he's benchmark is totally wrong |
| 07:08:14 | FromDiscord | <narimiran> In reply to @bluewhale_unkown_x "he's benchmark is totally": so, should be very easy to improve Nim's result |
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| 08:28:41 | FromDiscord | <tapeda> I like that it concludes by choosing the slowest on the list |
| 08:36:17 | FromDiscord | <zumi.dxy> maaan if I had a sign to tap it'd be this (again) :(↵https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.05460 |
| 08:36:20 | FromDiscord | <zumi.dxy> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1502952419477291068/Screenshot_20241205_070409_Opera.png?ex=6a019504&is=6a004384&hm=b068ca1e7a0a8cdaece221b43e2f92fe84e784ba42e80ac1190b21fbf8be697d& |
| 09:03:33 | tarzeau | Amun-Ra: i found it packaged on salsa.d.o :) |
| 09:03:49 | tarzeau | trying to contact author to have it officially... |
| 09:44:44 | Amun-Ra | tarzeau: yeah, debian's nim is far behind, that's why I packaged it myself and put on my prive repo |
| 09:45:03 | Amun-Ra | I have to push those recipes on gh someday |
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| 10:45:57 | FromDiscord | <vidyasagarv> In reply to @bluewhale_unkown_x "https://github.com/Syzygies/Compare I think": I made a PR to improve the nim implementation: https://github.com/Syzygies/Compare/pull/2/changes I am new to nim, so please feel free to comment |
| 10:47:15 | Amun-Ra | have you tested inlining it actually inlines and helps? compilers are usually smart enough to know when to inline |
| 10:47:52 | Amun-Ra | and inline is usually just a hint, template always inlines not matter what opinion any compiler has about it ;) |
| 10:49:06 | Amun-Ra | -march=native is fine, except when you write a portable software, if it's for a specific machine it's fine |
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| 11:15:19 | tarzeau | Amun-Ra: you're james cuzella? |
| 11:16:40 | tarzeau | Amun-Ra: few changes here and there, and i'll be so glad to upload it into debian :) drop rules-requires-root from d/control, make standards version be 4.7.4, compat = 13, make pkg non-native |
| 11:24:11 | tarzeau | maybe write an ITP, can be done with deb2itp script. i prefer debian/clean instead of rm in d/rules.. but as you wish |
| 11:36:02 | tarzeau | i'd definitely add d/README.Debian with an examplee config.toml [buffer] images=true ; and [display] image-mode="kitty" ... |
| 11:36:37 | tarzeau | i somehow have an issue umlauts being rendered as inverse ? in a diamond :( which i couldn't fix yet |
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| 12:42:56 | FromDiscord | <TӨMΛ ☠> Is there a way to differentiate between imported types? E.g. `uing` and `pixie` having Image type↵Separating through `uing.Image`/`pixie.Image` didn't do much, and `from uing import Image as uImage` seems to not be supported |
| 12:43:47 | FromDiscord | <TӨMΛ ☠> To be clear, I need both Image types, so it's not like I can `except` on any |
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| 12:58:49 | FromDiscord | <bung8954> from x import nil, then use `x.yy` |
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| 13:24:45 | FromDiscord | <vyrnexis> with nimble I needed to use the offical sdl3 from nim-lang, it has the sdl2-ttf wrapper, however when setting "required" to sdl3 it downloads the transmutrix/nim-sdl3 package instead, I know I could do a nimble install https://github.com/nim-lang/sdl3 manually, but do I include this in the project nimble file as a requirement |
| 13:25:22 | FromDiscord | <vyrnexis> with nimble I needed to use the offical sdl3 from nim-lang, it has the sdl2-ttf wrapper, however when setting "required" to sdl3 it downloads the transmutrix/nim-sdl3 package instead, I know I could do a nimble install https://github.com/nim-lang/sdl3 manually, but do I include this in the project nimble file as a requirement |
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| 13:51:07 | FromDiscord | <TӨMΛ ☠> In reply to @bung8954 "from x import nil,": Thank you 🫡 |
| 13:59:53 | FromDiscord | <janakali> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=QTDEGjPg |
| 14:01:18 | Amun-Ra | tarzeau: no, my first name is Artur, that name doesn't sound polish at all :) |
| 14:01:24 | FromDiscord | <janakali> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=dRsjZIQd |
| 14:03:33 | FromDiscord | <janakali> Amun-Ra\: who are you kidding? you are clearly Egyptian 😛 |
| 14:05:02 | Amun-Ra | janakali: :D |
| 14:05:42 | Amun-Ra | janakali: I can even read hieroglyphs… :) |
| 14:05:48 | Amun-Ra | and I'm serious |
| 14:06:25 | Amun-Ra | one of the most useless traits I got |
| 14:08:00 | FromDiscord | <asviest> Is there an some ProxSuite bindings for nim? |
| 14:08:06 | FromDiscord | <asviest> (edit) removed "an" |
| 14:09:04 | Amun-Ra | I browsed their readme.md and I still got no idea what's it for |
| 14:11:00 | tarzeau | haha |
| 14:13:45 | Amun-Ra | glanced* tbh ;) |
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| 14:42:57 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#templates-varargs-of-untyped↵> [...] a template cannot iterate over varargs,↵> Why is that and is there a workaround? |
| 14:43:17 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#templates-varargs-of-untyped↵> [...] a template cannot iterate over varargs,↵Why is that and is there a workaround? |
| 15:07:44 | FromDiscord | <mratsim> In reply to @spotlightkid "https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#templates-var": use a macro |
| 15:07:47 | Amun-Ra | https://nim-lang.org/docs/macros.html#unpackVarargs.m%2Cuntyped%2Cvarargs%5Buntyped%5D |
| 15:08:06 | Amun-Ra | not exactly what you want |
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| 15:43:56 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> Ok, I'm trying to use a macro instead. How do I write a macro that returns an actual type? Create the AST of a proc that returns that type? |
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| 17:17:58 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> Ok, I think I got it. To be able to do `let myMsg: Message = makeMsgMacro(bla, foo)` I can implement `makeMsgmacro` so that it returns a `BlockStmt` AST that evaluates to a `Message` object. |
| 17:26:18 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> If anybody is interested\:↵● https://codeberg.org/SpotlightKid/bosco/src/branch/master/src/bosco/macros.nim (macro)↵● https://codeberg.org/SpotlightKid/bosco/src/branch/master/tests/test_macros.nim (test usage) |
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| 18:06:45 | FromDiscord | <mratsim> In reply to @spotlightkid "If anybody is interested\:": this looks like a REST API. |
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| 18:07:54 | FromDiscord | <mratsim> You might want to check the macros used in presto for REST routing: https://github.com/status-im/nim-presto |
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| 19:05:27 | FromDiscord | <vidyasagarv> In reply to @Amun-Ra "have you tested inlining": Yes, it actually helps, surprisingly the -march=native did not help, this did 🤷♂️ Also, for what it's worth, this updated nim implementation is faster than current rust implementation on my machine 😅 |
| 19:21:45 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> No, similar, but not the same, it's for constructing Open Sound Control (OSC) messages, which get usually sent directly over UDP.↵I'll have a look at your link, though.↵(@mratsim) |
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