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| 02:01:24 | FromDiscord | <albassort> hey beef |
| 02:01:37 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Hey @albassort |
| 02:01:58 | Amun-Ra | I'm late to the party, C alternative using while: https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=VvhNPUSK |
| 02:02:09 | FromDiscord | <albassort> if i made a game where you're an astronomer and you need to program shaders to process 2d to 4d data matrixses, would that be fun |
| 02:02:41 | FromDiscord | <albassort> and you need to do it in forth on a type writer with limited cpu and ram, and load punch cards, and organize the punch cards, and store the punch cards |
| 02:03:34 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It could be fun, fun is always a measure of the designers abillity |
| 02:04:33 | FromDiscord | <albassort> for example, you are tasked with scanning a given area of a moon to make a depth map, and you need to use two different telescopes, and write a program to, do a non-euclidian map of both images onto each other, then output the maps to a punch card data dump and put it in the mail |
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| 02:04:55 | FromDiscord | <albassort> and somehow the game evaluates how good you did it |
| 02:05:15 | Amun-Ra | punch cards are best for beat'em up games |
| 02:05:20 | Amun-Ra | (I'll ask myself out) |
| 02:05:28 | FromDiscord | <albassort> while running on like a 2 thread cpu running at like 2 mhz with like 12kb of ram |
| 02:05:58 | FromDiscord | <albassort> basically the game is about being trapped in hell |
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| 02:12:25 | Amun-Ra | in a good (?) old days we had MOS 6502 running at 0.9MHz, having three 8-bit registers (A - single accumulator, X and Y) with whooping 64KB of RAM… |
| 02:13:04 | FromDiscord | <albassort> my other idea is a massively parallel cpu with a slow clock so it will do shaders quickly |
| 02:13:27 | FromDiscord | <albassort> like like 148 threads and each is like 0.2mhz |
| 02:13:34 | FromDiscord | <albassort> so you really need to optimize your code |
| 02:13:39 | FromDiscord | <albassort> (edit) "so you really need to optimize your code ... " added "and do cool IPC things" |
| 02:23:40 | FromDiscord | <albassort> this has been in my brain for years i wanna make it but it would be like 10 years of work and i would need to go to school for cosmology and it seems like a lot of effort |
| 02:26:42 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> So don't make it physically accurate but make it fun @albassort |
| 02:27:11 | FromDiscord | <albassort> well i wanna make learning more about the world reward you in the game |
| 02:27:23 | FromDiscord | <albassort> to encourage those who set forth seek to learn |
| 02:27:33 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGpFEv1-mAo is my view |
| 02:27:54 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Right but you can do that in a fun way |
| 02:27:58 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Look at turing complete for instance |
| 02:28:28 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Does it have to be true to life mechanics? No |
| 02:28:31 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It just has to approach the problem in a way that lets them learn it even at a high level |
| 02:29:19 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> There are plenty of games around programming so make the problem approachable and you will have people interested |
| 02:30:23 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> A shader game could be quite fun if you slowly got more operations and combined them to take an input and match an output |
| 02:30:28 | FromDiscord | <albassort> well, how i feel about this is:↵if there is many high level games, shouldn't there be a few low level ones? |
| 02:31:27 | FromDiscord | <albassort> also feel like, if i make something not for profit, but to find one person, some day, somewhere, who understands, thats worth it |
| 02:31:38 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Cause why do pretend low level when you can do real low level 😛 |
| 02:31:46 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Turing complete is low level though |
| 02:32:10 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> we're in a similar boat in that regard, it's about making something fun to me |
| 02:32:52 | FromDiscord | <albassort> well the fun for me is the process of creation |
| 02:33:27 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I mean my reason to make games is that I hope someone will find it fun |
| 02:34:24 | FromDiscord | <albassort> perhapsc im more self centered, i want to make something, how i want to make it, and i don't care if nobody finds it fun, or if one person finds it fun, because so long as I made it. that is the enjoyment for me |
| 02:35:18 | FromDiscord | <albassort> almost as if living and creation aren't different tasks |
| 02:38:10 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Making is also the point to me, but my reason for making games and not a tshirt is I want to make something people find fun |