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| 04:07:39 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> In reply to @zkopt_ "https://github.com/zkopt-dev I'm high": if you want honest feedback, you are asking the wrong question |
| 04:08:06 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> firstly, nobody is gonna put in the effort to judge your code quality |
| 04:08:24 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> but secondly, you yourself should be figuring out what "good' code is |
| 04:08:57 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> talking to people about what this means and looking at what other people have thought before is important, but independence is also key |
| 04:09:21 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> the basic point is that if you were a good programmer, you wouldn't be posting your GitHub and asking people if you're a good programmer |
| 04:10:15 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> I also in general see that you ask people about things like what you should do or project ideas, and in general this is another sign that you haven't dived deeply enough into something. once you become fairly knowledgeable about some domain you tend to have the issue of too many ideas |
| 05:22:51 | FromDiscord | <zkopt_> In reply to @_timurski "I also in general": I don't ask idea ↵I have too many idea even I don't have much knowledge lol |
| 05:23:34 | FromDiscord | <zkopt_> In reply to @_timurski "but secondly, you yourself": um... but that doesn't mean other person's evaluate is meanless |
| 05:24:21 | FromDiscord | <zkopt_> In reply to @_timurski "the basic point is": I think I'm not good programmer at all↵I'm just high school student developer↵and I want to ask what point I should fix or enhance |
| 05:24:44 | FromDiscord | <zkopt_> (edit) "meanless" => "meaningless" |
| 05:25:51 | FromDiscord | <zkopt_> In reply to @abdulrahman.103 "this c lib is": what reason? I can't say any words at "some reason"↵↵upload error message of compiler or linker |
| 05:31:39 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> In reply to @zkopt_ "I don't ask idea": idk i thought i saw you do that beforemb |
| 05:31:57 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> In reply to @zkopt_ "I think I'm not": the way you're doing it is really unproductive |
| 05:32:08 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> you can't expect random people on discord to just spend a bunch of time looking at things for you |
| 05:32:12 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> it's not exactly rude but it's bordering on it |
| 05:35:07 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> jonathan blow had a good comment on this i guess. whenever you build a project you should look back and analyze, what was difficult? what did you do wrong? what assumptions did you have that proved to be counterproductive? what should you have done instead? |
| 05:35:53 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> like "what should i fix or enhance" what do you think is the answer to this |
| 05:36:04 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> because in my opinion the full answer is "your entire way of thinking" |
| 05:36:16 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> and this is a process everyone should always be in |
| 05:54:04 | FromDiscord | <Abdulrahman> In reply to @zkopt_ "what reason? I can't": Turns out it had to download multiple dependencies in the background |
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| 06:44:10 | Amun-Ra | "good" code is a subjective term; I write good code to me, you write good code to you, etc |
| 07:02:08 | FromDiscord | <xierongchuan> 👀 |
| 07:12:17 | FromDiscord | <gesee37> In reply to @_timurski "you can't expect random": Having random people on discord looking at what we do and giving feedbacks is why we are all here 🙂 |
| 07:14:07 | FromDiscord | <gesee37> In reply to @zkopt_ "https://github.com/zkopt-dev I'm high": Well about coding skills not sure we can really access that since it would require to read all the code you wrote 🚼 |
| 07:15:35 | FromDiscord | <gesee37> We already struggle to review 500 of AI changes so a whole repository (especially when we aren't paid enough for that)... |
| 07:16:33 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> In reply to @gesee37 "Having random people on": nah I don't think this should really be encouraged |
| 07:17:00 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> it's just not an efficient way to even help somebody |
| 07:17:02 | FromDiscord | <gesee37> (edit) "We already struggle to review 500 ... of" added "loc" |
| 07:18:43 | FromDiscord | <_timurski> as in, literally asking people to look at your entire GitHub profile |
| 07:19:03 | FromDiscord | <gesee37> In reply to @_timurski "nah I don't think": Well it's a way to help...↵Maybe not posting your full bio (which indeed is not helpful)↵But specific project yeah |
| 08:43:18 | FromDiscord | <b0rsuk> Is it possible in the programming language Nim to echo a string without a trailing newline? The procedure's documentation in the `system` module doesn't hint how to do that. |
| 08:49:07 | FromDiscord | <b0rsuk> Is it because I should be a good boy and assemble the whole line before printing it? |
| 08:59:23 | FromDiscord | <tempestro> I personally would solve this with a raw `printf()`↵I know it is not a good solution |
| 09:01:48 | Amun-Ra | b0rsuk: only via stdout.write |
| 09:02:21 | Amun-Ra | see std/sycio |
| 09:02:23 | Amun-Ra | syncio* |
| 09:03:42 | FromDiscord | <tempestro> In reply to @xierongchuan "I've been using this": what do you mean with the RAM consumption?↵Idling VSCode eats 669 MiB, Zed with a bunch of stuff open eats 406 MiB |
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| 09:05:46 | Amun-Ra | raw printf requires you to use proper type specifiers that differ in 32-bit and 64-bit systems |
| 09:06:10 | Amun-Ra | unless you always for example use %zu for unsigned ints etc |
| 09:07:47 | FromDiscord | <b0rsuk> Ultimately it's not a big deal because I can assemble a string and concatenate `\n` to it... |
| 09:09:29 | Amun-Ra | I often wish there was an echo w/o implicit new line, stdout.write raises IOError, echo does not |
| 09:09:39 | Amun-Ra | {.raises.} |
| 10:36:40 | FromDiscord | <TӨMΛ ☠> sent a code paste, see https://discordapp.com/channels/371759389889003530/371759389889003532/1567850118231756882 |
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| 11:27:32 | FromDiscord | <mratsim> In reply to @toma400 "I wanted to make": is log a const or a `var log {.compileTime.}: Log` ? |
| 11:52:22 | FromDiscord | <TӨMΛ ☠> A `var` but without any pragmas |
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| 11:54:41 | FromDiscord | <viiper_dev> Hello, I'm new on Nim and I'm trying to have LSP. I installed nimlangserver via nimble and the plugin in nvim via Mason. Once all of this is done, I get this segfault (see attached file) https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1567869759628775484/segfault_fedora44_nim.txt?ex=6aedc000&is=6aec6e80&hm=aa204158269a4e5dd42b1a2a91455e81da8fde20b8716d5d5cbfb28cf42b49e5& |
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| 12:17:11 | FromDiscord | <gesee37> In reply to @toma400 "A `var` but without": Then it's probably just that Nim doesn't interpret `log` as `static[Log]` because it's neither a const nor `{.compileTime.}` `var` |
| 12:17:25 | FromDiscord | <gesee37> (edit) "In reply to @toma400 "A `var` but without": Then it's probably just that Nim doesn't interpret `log` as `static[Log]` because it's neither a const nor ... `{.compileTime.}`" added "a" |
| 12:37:29 | FromDiscord | <TӨMΛ ☠> How one can provide argument to macro then? Putting pure type instead of `static[Log]` provides NimNode, so docs suggested doing `static[]` as working differently (?) in Nim↵I need Log to be editable on runtime :/ |
| 12:37:42 | FromDiscord | <TӨMΛ ☠> (edit) "runtime" => "runtime, so it can't be evaluated on compilation" |
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| 13:39:13 | FromDiscord | <mratsim> In reply to @toma400 "A `var` but without": a var that is not {.compiletime.} is not static param. Static is for compile-time values only |
| 13:39:58 | FromDiscord | <mratsim> In reply to @toma400 "How one can provide": remove the static. |
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| 13:56:21 | FromDiscord | <tempestro> In reply to @viiper_dev "Hello, I'm new on": hello, not an expert, but nim doesn't really have any stable working language server atm |
| 13:56:46 | FromDiscord | <viiper_dev> oh ok I supposed that it had one lol |
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| 14:27:53 | FromDiscord | <mratsim> In reply to @viiper_dev "oh ok I supposed": it does have one and it's being worked on. But historically the nimsuggest / langserver story has been burning CPU cycles with complex codebases with macros and lot of compiletime evaluation stuff |
| 14:28:39 | FromDiscord | <mratsim> In reply to @viiper_dev "Hello, I'm new on": Might have better luck in #tooling cc @jmgomez |
| 14:29:28 | FromDiscord | <viiper_dev> In reply to @mratsim "it does have one": segfault on `echo("Hello World")` lol |
| 14:31:55 | FromDiscord | <mratsim> In reply to @viiper_dev "segfault on `echo("Hello World")`": ¯\\_(ツ)\_/¯ |
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| 15:02:04 | FromDiscord | <TӨMΛ ☠> sent a code paste, see https://discordapp.com/channels/371759389889003530/371759389889003532/1567916911742951588 |
| 15:02:42 | FromDiscord | <TӨMΛ ☠> `<-` in my original code, I changed it to `|:` but the error remains the same |
| 15:03:45 | FromDiscord | <TӨMΛ ☠> Like I can't do any operations on types within macro if I don't use static |
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| 15:56:39 | FromDiscord | <gesee37> In reply to @toma400 "This then yields another": You can use `static` |
| 15:57:08 | FromDiscord | <gesee37> Just that the `log` object you pass to the macro should be known a compile time |
| 15:57:47 | FromDiscord | <gesee37> And to do so you have to put it in a `const` or some compile-time var |
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| 16:07:34 | FromDiscord | <TӨMΛ ☠> Would that let me edit its fields etc.? Also some of its contents depend on runtime read of the files 😔 |
| 16:08:06 | FromDiscord | <TӨMΛ ☠> (edit) "Would that let me edit its fields etc.? Also some of its contents depend on runtime read of the files 😔 ... " added "(though if I could edit object's fields, I could supply it later I guess)" |
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| 19:56:52 | FromDiscord | <gesee37> In reply to @toma400 "Would that let me": Sad↵You have to make a choice↵Either it exist in macro and hardly at runtime either ot exost at runtime but is not usable in macro |
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