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01:51:12FromDiscord<mratsim> In reply to @_timurski "maybe one day ill": just use unicode, not too hard anymore with LLMs
01:52:46FromDiscord<mratsim> I used to do all of that stuff by hand: https://github.com/mratsim/constantine/blob/ea8c268603a5c5f5be479dda9ba27dcbdc51dade/constantine/commitments/eth_verkle_ipa.nim#L81
01:54:46FromDiscord<mratsim> In reply to @emiliajssl "When will Nim migrate": if someone wants to own the docgen, they're very welcome I think
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03:49:00FromDiscord<incelsinister211> h
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06:34:36FromDiscord<_timurski> In reply to @mratsim "just use unicode, not": dawg that is not the same at ALL 😭
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06:35:14FromDiscord<_timurski> it's too limited
07:31:07FromDiscord<kodiakweb> Compose key exists, and there's a third party windows port of the feature↵Doesn't support every symbol ootb but it's not too hard to map new ones, and mappings aren't too hard to find on gh either. You could also have an llm generate a mapping for whatever symbol sets you need and copy-paste it into your config.
07:31:18FromDiscord<kodiakweb> (edit) removed "third party"
07:32:19FromDiscord<kodiakweb> @_timurski
07:46:52FromDiscord<_timurski> it's just not the same
07:47:28FromDiscord<tangentsoft> In reply to @kodiakweb "Compose key exists, and": If Unicode sufficed, we wouldn’t need MathML (MathJax, ASCIIMath) and math journals would be in HTML, not LaTeX rendered to PDF. One example: where is the subscript B needed for the Boltzmann constant, foundational to physics? Don’t tell me about the HTML “sub” element or LaTeX approximations like `k_B`; the argument made was that Unicode suffices. Show me.
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08:05:37delian66It has a 💩 character though... Someone advocated for it, and it was added. Apparently physicists do not care enough to do so.
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08:07:16delian66or if they do, they may not have the numbers to push for their constants
08:08:01delian66while people that want to write Klingon do
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08:30:44FromDiscord<mratsim> In reply to @_timurski "it's too limited": Oh for sure it is. But I find it somewhat more readable than latex formulas within a function doc comments where there is no renderer.
08:46:48FromDiscord<_timurski> In reply to @mratsim "Oh for sure it": typst is much more readable than latex, id recommend giving it a look
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09:19:46FromDiscord<mratsim> In reply to @_timurski "typst is much more": if you have a math heavy blog post written in typst I'm interested
09:20:24FromDiscord<_timurski> I have a bit of math and physics notes written up in typst
09:20:35FromDiscord<_timurski> I can send some snippets of that later
09:20:54FromDiscord<_timurski> it's like if you asked someone how they would write things intuitively, that's how typst is
09:22:21FromDiscord<_timurski> its also a programming language which allows you to generate things dynamically which I've used a lot when dealing with data
09:29:39FromDiscord<aintea> no way, I just learned that nimony is going to be libc-free
09:30:03FromDiscord<aintea> that's insane work, wish I was good enough to work on the compiler
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12:29:48FromDiscord<nervecenter> In reply to @_timurski "typst is much more": I love Typst so much, I make a ton of my work documentation, hobby tabletop projects, and I even made my NimConf presentation with it. One of the foremost programs where I'm not sure why it needed to be written in Rust, and if they went with the data-oriented Nim style I talked about, they'd have a simpler program with faster feature iteration, plus all the safety and speed.
12:30:54FromDiscord<nervecenter> Maybe I'm oversimplifying things, but they're essentially making a pipeline of language parser, document data structure, and PostScript serializer...Rust makes all of that far more fiddly than it needs to be.
12:31:00FromDiscord<nnsee> why does a project _need_ to be written in any language? it's likely the authors just liked rust and used it as that's what they're comfortable with...
12:31:41FromDiscord<nervecenter> Syntax and semantics matter when you're trying to turn around and build new features, or add to an existing feature set. Especially building upon old code.
12:31:58FromDiscord<nervecenter> I'll stand by that position, I don't believe the meme that languages don't matter.
12:35:00FromDiscord<nervecenter> I think there are a lot of unconsidered organizational intangibles (that probably need to be studied) for how the manner in which data structures and computations are modeled tie into the organizational dynamics and how projects are metered out and managed.
12:35:28FromDiscord<nervecenter> (edit) "for how" => "dealing with"
12:35:40FromDiscord<nervecenter> (edit) "I think there are a lot of unconsidered organizational intangibles (that probably need to be studied) dealing with ... the" added "how"
12:37:24FromDiscord<nervecenter> We already have the term "technical debt" when talking about how a project accrues so many shortcuts, shims, and grafts that it becomes unmanageable for new maintainers.
12:46:57FromDiscord<_timurski> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/vhOywdFJ
12:59:25FromDiscord<emiliajssl> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/zXZfFVJn
13:35:35FromDiscord<nnsee> i just don't understand the default logic of "typst works well in spite of being written in rust" instead of "typst works well (partly) due to being written in rust"
13:35:50FromDiscord<nnsee> the fact that the latter sounds silly should indicate how silly the former sounds as well
13:40:06FromDiscord<nervecenter> In reply to @emiliajssl "I'll ask the authors": Eh I think we already know, it's got a massive community and a lot of momentum.
13:41:18FromDiscord<nervecenter> In reply to @nnsee "i just don't understand": I didn't say it doesn't work well, I'm saying its pace of feature additions and technical debt accumulation aren't helped by the choice.
13:42:00FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @nervecenter "Syntax and semantics matter": it's surprising to hear you say this wrt to rust, because the general consensus seems to be that rust makes safe refactoring much easier than it otherwise would be
13:43:29FromDiscord<nervecenter> Nim does that even better 🤷‍♂️
13:43:55FromDiscord<nnsee> having used both languages extensively i'm not sure that's true, in my experience
13:43:57FromDiscord<nervecenter> Rust can be great while not being the best for the purpose
13:44:37FromDiscord<nervecenter> And just because refactoring in Rust is safe doesn't mean it's simple
13:44:45FromDiscord<nervecenter> Refactoring in Nim is borderline sleepwalking work
13:44:49FromDiscord<nnsee> nim makes it really easy to use hacks to work around a problem, which (at least for me) is the main source of technical debt, while rust forces you to plan your application's behavior in advance and handling the issues as they come up, leading to less debt
13:45:04FromDiscord<nnsee> is my general experience anyways
13:45:09FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Oh wait
13:45:28FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Nim did kinda compile to C first?
13:45:38FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Well transpile
13:45:51FromDiscord<emiliajssl> And then used LLVM?
13:46:07FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Or is it direct
13:46:13FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Or does Rust do the same
13:46:38FromDiscord<nervecenter> In reply to @nnsee "nim makes it really": That's true enough, I just come from functional world so I avoid stuff like that habitually
13:47:09FromDiscord<nervecenter> In reply to @emiliajssl "Nim did kinda compile": Nim compiles to C first then uses any C compile toolchain to make the binary. If you look in .nimcache you can see the compiled modules
13:47:16FromDiscord<nervecenter> It's not intended to be human-readable C
13:47:29FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Ahh
13:47:36FromDiscord<emiliajssl> That's something
13:47:59FromDiscord<emiliajssl> The authors are a bit biased (I think) towards C dependencies 😛
13:48:01FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @emiliajssl "Well transpile": no, you had it right the first time :p
13:48:08FromDiscord<nnsee> compile, not transpile
13:48:24FromDiscord<emiliajssl> But
13:48:27FromDiscord<nervecenter> sorry on Nix it's `.cache/nim`
13:48:35FromDiscord<emiliajssl> In reply to @nnsee "compile, not transpile": Isn't transpiles from Nim to C
13:48:44FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Like language to language
13:49:01FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Compile then from language to bits
13:49:12FromDiscord<emiliajssl> (edit) "transpiles" => "transpile"
13:49:29FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Oh transcompiler
13:49:31FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Bleh
13:49:36FromDiscord<nervecenter> That word causes a lot of consternation
13:49:59FromDiscord<nervecenter> The definition of transpiler is pretty fuzzy and overlaps with compiler significantly
13:50:11FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Owah
13:53:37FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @emiliajssl "Isn't transpile from Nim": https://peterme.net/is-nim-a-transpiler.html
13:53:47FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Oh
13:53:48FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Haha
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15:09:57FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> In reply to @nervecenter "The definition of transpiler": Ive always taken compiler to be "turn into instructions for some architecture" and transpiler to be "convert to a different language"
15:10:30FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> nim -> transpiled (nim to c/cpp/js, toolchain does the compiling)
15:10:43FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> (edit) "->" => "would" | "wouldtranspiled (nim ... to" added "converts"
15:12:13FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> compile-time code is compiled because it gets converted to bytecode targeting the nim vm (afaik)
15:12:53FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> typescript is not compiled because its just converted to javascript
15:14:08FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> (edit) "converted to" => "turned into"
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15:15:39FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> i guess i can see how at the end of the day because nim eventually gets compiled to instructions (for the c targets) nim is arguably a compiler
15:16:53FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> In reply to @nnsee "https://peterme.net/is-nim-a-transpiler.html": > the code it outputs is not convertible back to the Nim that created it↵if this is what determines compiler vs transpiler then nim is definetly a compiler
15:18:35FromDiscord<gesee37> In reply to @determiedmech1 "Ive always taken compiler": No quite.↵When you say transpiling you are talking mostly about 1:1 convertions without much work on it↵afaik Nim does some heavy transformations to the code before generating the backend's code, not just replacement while also linking and assembling your different files to make it easy for the toolchains to work with it↵This is compilation
15:18:42FromDiscord<gesee37> (edit) "No" => "Not"
15:19:00FromDiscord<gesee37> (edit) "it↵This" => "it↵That"
15:21:08FromDiscord<gesee37> In reply to @nnsee "having used both languages": Having used Nim and saw and analyzed a lot of Rust (not written much myself though) I would say Nim code (when well written) is way more easier to extend, refactor, etc that Rust
15:21:42FromDiscord<gesee37> The real difference is that Nim is flexible and there is so much way to do something that you may easily shoot yourself
15:22:04FromDiscord<gesee37> While in Rust's there is not so much much options to start with so doing something bad is harder
15:23:58FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> In reply to @gesee37 "Not quite. When you": yeah i agree with this now
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15:24:08FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> my views have been changed
15:25:00FromDiscord<gesee37> In reply to @gesee37 "Having used Nim and": Especially for multiple dispatch (which is one of my favorite feature of the language) and concepts
15:37:28FromDiscord<kapendev> Shooting yourself is not that hard with rust. Just unwrap and done.
15:38:11FromDiscord<kapendev> Mostly a design issue of that type, but anyway
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15:43:18FromDiscord<nervecenter> In reply to @determiedmech1 "Ive always taken compiler": Yeah, my shorthand is basically "Does it compile to a non-intermediate human-writable language as an intermediate step?" We can argue all day about whether or not programs can be written in LLVM IR, but it's intended as a compiler target, so I'd call LLVM-targeting languages compiled. I think Nim is transpiled given the C target, but the C it generates is borderline IR anyways
15:43:43FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> that makes sense
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15:48:26FromDiscord<gesee37> In reply to @kapendev "Shooting yourself is not": Ssshh, we don't want some big tech to feel offensed
15:49:04FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> really we should just scrap everything and use ruby
15:49:17FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Go
15:51:19FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> ...
15:51:26FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> yeah i think ill stick with ruby lolb😭
15:51:36FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> (edit) "lolb😭" => "lol 😭"
15:54:02FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> i dont like how the types are backwards
15:54:51FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Odin
15:54:53FromDiscord<emiliajssl> C3
15:54:55FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Zig
15:55:22FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Mojo
15:56:07FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> Isnt mojo just gpu python
15:56:31FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Thats julia
15:56:40FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Mojo is AI python
15:56:44FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> julia is nicer than python
15:57:02FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> precomp annoys me a little bit (makie takes forevee)
15:57:03FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Nim is C python
15:57:07FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> (edit) "forevee)" => "forever)"
15:57:10FromDiscord<gesee37> In reply to @emiliajssl "Thats julia": Huh, isn't julia overpowered python for science ?
15:57:18FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Yeah
15:57:19FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> In reply to @emiliajssl "Nim is C python": ive heard it called pythonic pascal lol
15:57:24FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> it was
15:57:30FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> an interesting way to say that
15:57:32FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Stupidly focused on data science
15:57:45FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Which somewhat kills it for other paradigms
15:57:46FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> the whole point of julia is data science
15:57:47FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Or domains
15:58:07FromDiscord<gesee37> In reply to @emiliajssl "Stupidly focused on data": Yeah 😅 and that's a bit of a shame
15:58:25FromDiscord<gesee37> The things is that most users of Julia are science guys
15:58:44FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Yeah
15:58:51FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Oh I didn't mean badly
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15:59:02FromDiscord<emiliajssl> I meant like it's amazing
15:59:27FromDiscord<emiliajssl> But it somewhat kills contributions a bit, but makes those ones of great quality
15:59:39FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=SNqqSsZC
15:59:57FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Rust
16:00:02FromDiscord<emiliajssl> No
16:00:05FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Kotlin?
16:00:06FromDiscord<emiliajssl> No
16:00:08FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Zig
16:00:10FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> printn
16:00:10FromDiscord<emiliajssl> No
16:00:11FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> printfn
16:00:13FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Java
16:00:16FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> what is n?
16:00:25FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Newline
16:00:29FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> ah
16:00:58FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> In reply to @emiliajssl "Rust": rust just irritates me lmao
16:01:16FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> most of it isnt really rusts fault tho
16:01:23FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> i just find it hard to reason about
16:01:24FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Rust my beloved
16:01:28FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Babysitting me
16:01:32FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Ada could never
16:01:46FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> before i knew nim it was still easy for me to understand what was going on
16:01:55FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> same with ruby
16:02:01FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> and nu
16:02:14FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> nushell is the best thing to come from rust imo
16:02:19FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> well
16:02:21FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> one of them
16:02:25FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Nushell my beloved
16:02:36FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> i live nushell
16:02:43FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> (edit) "live" => "love"
16:02:48FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Not before my great PowerShell
16:02:52FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> ...
16:02:57FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Rm -rf? Nah
16:02:59FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> thats where we diverge
16:03:08FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Remove-Item -Recurse -Force
16:03:13FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Readable 🙂‍↕️
16:03:50FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> (r)e(m)ove -(r)ecurse -(f)orce
16:04:00FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> thats just way longer
16:04:08FromDiscord<emiliajssl> But readable
16:04:16FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> wait do you use windoes
16:04:18FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> (edit) "windoes" => "windows"
16:04:52FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Of course
16:05:04FromDiscord<emiliajssl> The greatest operating system that works on my machine
16:05:16FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> -# have you tried linux
16:05:20FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Yeah
16:05:21FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> (i use arch btw)
16:05:33FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Dnf > pacman
16:05:42FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Homebrew > pacman
16:05:52FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> In reply to @emiliajssl "The greatest operating system": the only think i find great is that it is pretty consistent in that Everything is a Window
16:05:57FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Scoop > pacman
16:06:01FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> (edit) "that Everything" => ""Everything" | "Window" => "Window""
16:06:05FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> oh hell no 😭
16:06:13FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> at least use chocolayey
16:06:15FromDiscord<emiliajssl> In reply to @determiedmech1 "the only think i": I mean, KDE too
16:06:17FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> (edit) "chocolayey" => "chocolatey"
16:06:20FromDiscord<emiliajssl> In reply to @determiedmech1 "at least use chocolatey": Bleh
16:06:26FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Didn't really like
16:06:26FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> choco 4 eva
16:06:32FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> well
16:06:37FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> if i were to use windows
16:06:49FromDiscord<emiliajssl> With scoop I could set up my own automated bucket easily from the template
16:06:51FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> winget searching is kinda annoying
16:07:00FromDiscord<emiliajssl> And it's faster to have updated software and everything
16:07:12FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> ig
16:07:17FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> i mean
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16:07:33FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> i just run yay -Syu in the background every day or two
16:08:00FromDiscord<emiliajssl> To get 1.5 k packages compromised
16:08:11FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> lmao
16:08:23FromDiscord<emiliajssl> I mean
16:08:25FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> thats usually just orphaned aur packages
16:08:27FromDiscord<emiliajssl> I love Linux
16:08:34FromDiscord<emiliajssl> It's just not fit for me nor my machine
16:09:28FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Audio isn't great as the Dolby one, track pad needs a lot of work because of Wayland and KDE, battery, Valorant 😛, software
16:09:46FromDiscord<emiliajssl> (edit) "Audio isn't great as the Dolby one, track pad needs a lot of work because of Wayland and KDE, battery, Valorant 😛, software ... " added "compatibility"
16:10:24FromDiscord<emiliajssl> I won't deny nor hide I also love KDE
16:10:31FromDiscord<emiliajssl> And Gnome on design specially
16:10:45FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Compared to Windows inconsistencies
16:10:56FromDiscord<emiliajssl> And btrfs overall
16:11:05FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Although Windows has dev drives
16:11:50FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> In reply to @emiliajssl "It's just not fit": yeah at the end of the day its just about using whatever works for you
16:12:03FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> In reply to @emiliajssl "I won't deny nor": kde 🤤
16:12:07FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> In reply to @emiliajssl "And Gnome on design": Gnome 🤢
16:13:10FromDiscord<emiliajssl> In reply to @determiedmech1 "Gnome 🤢": I'm aware of its hate due to decorations and theming
16:13:33FromDiscord<emiliajssl> But regardless at least the default that Ubuntu comes with is great 😋
16:13:41FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> "Gnome Knows Best"
16:13:47FromDiscord<emiliajssl> KDE vanilla itself is good
16:13:56FromDiscord<emiliajssl> In reply to @determiedmech1 ""Gnome Knows Best"": MacOS ahh moment
16:13:59FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> i like kde a lot
16:14:10FromDiscord<emiliajssl> It's just the old laptop vs desktop
16:14:20FromDiscord<emiliajssl> KDE for desktop↵Gnome for laptop
16:14:20FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> i do like the windows ui design so it makes sense that i'd like kde
16:14:44FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> ive only had laptops so its kde on laptops for me
16:14:54FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Hmm
16:15:04FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> ooh wait what browser do you use
16:15:14FromDiscord<emiliajssl> In reply to @determiedmech1 ""Gnome Knows Best"": I guess realizing that contributes to why it's preferred on enterprise
16:15:21FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> if you like customizability vivaldi is nice
16:15:27FromDiscord<emiliajssl> So you just focus on doing and having sane defaults
16:15:36FromDiscord<emiliajssl> KDE mostly for personal usage
16:15:43FromDiscord<emiliajssl> In reply to @determiedmech1 "ooh wait what browser": Mainly Edge
16:15:53FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> guess that makes sense
16:15:55FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Alongside with Brave, Vivaldi and Firefox
16:16:05FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> why so many?
16:16:29FromDiscord<emiliajssl> I want to keep track of their features
16:16:38FromDiscord<emiliajssl> I'd use Zen
16:16:51FromDiscord<emiliajssl> If it weren't because it's a bit unstable
16:17:17FromDiscord<emiliajssl> And I use Android so Edge on Android has full extensions support
16:17:32FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Firefox does too BUT
16:17:50FromDiscord<emiliajssl> It doesn't support PWAs on desktop yet
16:18:00FromDiscord<emiliajssl> So I like them to be synced
16:18:14FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Plus Edge still supports ublock origin 😛
16:18:26FromDiscord<emiliajssl> And it's the most efficient on Windows
16:18:53FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> as one wouls expect
16:18:58FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> (edit) "wouls" => "would"
16:19:00FromDiscord<emiliajssl> And has somewhat a great UI overhaul, like Vivaldi, unlike Brave
16:19:14FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Brave works great on Linux though
16:19:49FromDiscord<emiliajssl> I'd like Vivaldi but, I want extensions on mobile
16:19:55FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> true
16:20:02FromDiscord<emiliajssl> And its adblocker isn't as good as Brave at last
16:20:04FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> thats the only thing i miss about having used firefox
16:20:21FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Firefox is great too
16:20:39FromDiscord<emiliajssl> I'd just wish for Mozilla to hire the PWAs for Firefox extension guy
16:20:45FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> but i also dont really do much mobile stuff now that i think about it
16:20:59FromDiscord<emiliajssl> For once to implement it fully and not just its task tab method
16:21:47FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> In reply to @determiedmech1 "but i also dont": mostly termux, communication, spaceflight simulator lol
16:21:51FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Search engine is just Google
16:22:06FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Bing if I'm just not finding something
16:22:28FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Regional results don't work in Duck Duck Go, worse in Brave
16:22:36FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Start page too
16:22:48FromDiscord<emiliajssl> In reply to @determiedmech1 "mostly termux, communication, spaceflight": Owah
16:23:12FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Out of all
16:23:13FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Hmm
16:23:20FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Brave feels the comfier in mobile
16:23:29FromDiscord<emiliajssl> At least in tabs and adblocker
16:23:38FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Vivaldi hmm
16:23:45FromDiscord<emiliajssl> I just NEED AN ADBLOCKER
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16:24:01FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> actually if you find yourself needing to code on the go termux is pretty ncie
16:24:05FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> (edit) "ncie" => "nice"
16:24:10FromDiscord<emiliajssl> Oh yeah
16:24:11FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> the only thing
16:24:16FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> is that rust doesnt seem to work
16:24:34FromDiscord<emiliajssl> I swear I had used Rust
16:27:57FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> at least in my experience
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