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00:45:30PMunchAraq, great to see that the new GC is coming along :)
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08:34:34veganskAraq, hi! Can you look at this please: https://gist.github.com/vegansk/3be27cc3be74adabedab43fec4905369. Is it my bug or the compiler's?
08:36:08Araqseems like a compiler bug, but you can also solve the problem in the macro I think, you need to generate nnkIdent for the star
08:36:17Araqnothing else will do.
08:39:28veganskBut ``postfix(ident"String", "*")`` generates ident for "*". Added macro code: https://gist.github.com/vegansk/3be27cc3be74adabedab43fec4905369#gistcomment-1791402
08:46:10veganskWow, the "*" op must be the part of the identificator!!!
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09:01:20Araqvegansk: try again. :-)
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09:12:13veganskAraq, tried with your commit f7f3d70a683bca1113764f9552417a52cc3fe62e. Version with postfix(ident, "*") fails with the same error. Version with ident"String*" compiles, but test fails on ``declared(String)``
09:12:53Araqversion with ident"string*" is wrong
09:15:13Araqwell now you know what to touch in the compiler, add a debug(n) and 'koch temp' your example
09:16:28Araqdebugging the compiler is easy.
09:16:47veganskthanks
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09:32:02Araqvegansk: I think your macro puts the declared identifier in a scope where '*' simply is not allowed
09:32:09Araqhence the error message stays the same
09:32:19Araqthen it would be no commpiler bug.
09:33:42veganskAraq, I found the problem
09:33:59veganskhttps://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/4248
09:34:58Araqlike I said. :-)
09:35:28vegansk:-)
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10:08:55Araqis this a joke? http://www.ecma-international.org/ecma-262/6.0/#sec-string.prototype.replace
10:12:44TheLemonManit's pretty neat
10:15:27cheatfateAraq, you mean full algo?
10:16:03Araqthe jargon, the size of the algo, the notation
10:17:12Araqand then they say JS is simple and C++ is complex. Seems an arbitrary statement when you look at the specs.
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10:25:44Araqbut hey, C++ is the only language that gets blamed for operator overloading. It's an unfair world.
10:31:02ArrrrWhy doesn't ecma leave space for implementation?
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10:39:07AraqJS is too important now, better leave no space for implementation differences.
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11:01:02cheatfatewhere is dom96?
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11:16:51AraqI don't think I'm allowed to say.
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11:23:36cheatfateAraq, are you allowed to say when he come back?
11:23:49Araqtomorrow.
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12:14:46yglukhovAraq: recent changes in asynchttpserver break things.
12:15:00yglukhovgetting an url in safari now leads to bad request
12:15:13yglukhovsafari doesn't send Content-Length
12:24:53cheatfatemaybe because Content-Length not needed for get requests
12:25:13cheatfatebecause there no content
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12:46:30Araqyglukhov: ok, shouldn't be hard to fix though, right?
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14:11:44cheatfateyglukhov, i think we need to remove https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/lib/pure/asynchttpserver.nim#L233-L235
14:12:20cheatfateyglukhov, and this line https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/lib/pure/asynchttpserver.nim#L232 we must replace with Http411 error
14:13:16yglukhovcheatfate: i don't what RFC says, but it seems to me that in case of missing Content-Length we should read as much as we can until next request.
14:14:36cheatfateif `Content-Length` is missing and `Transfer-Encoding` is also missing then this request must be satisfied with Http411 error
14:22:19cheatfateyglukhov, server must not read whole request because it can be just a simple DoS attack on it... just sending trash and webserver consumes all server's ram
14:24:28cheatfatebut asynchttpserver dont support chunked encoding in requests...
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15:50:48yglukhovcheatfate: ok, i agree. will you do the pr?
15:51:56cheatfatewe need to make chunked encoding processor, i dont like `remove some lines PRs`
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15:56:16ParashuramaAraq_: Hi, What is the rational behind using Rune as an alias to int in unicode module. uint32/int32 is more than large enough for all legal code-points (max is: 0x10ffff)
15:57:03Araqnobody could be bothered to create a PR for it
15:57:27Araqrunes need to be replaced by graphemes anyway
15:57:30yglukhovcheatfate, Araq: how about reverting the change until a better solution is available. because now it is just unusable
15:58:34ParashuramaYou mean the name 'Rune' by 'Grapheme'?
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15:59:58ParashuramaAraq_: A PR shouldn't be too hard.
16:00:23ParashuramaAraq_: I will do that.
16:00:25Araqyglukhov: try this one first
16:00:48AraqParashurama: no, leave the name as it is for now, but the whole concept needs to be replaced by "grapheme" eventually
16:01:04Parashuramaand chaging Rune = di
16:01:31ParashuramaAraq_: and changing Rune to int32?
16:01:53AraqParashurama: fine with me
16:02:46ParashuramaAraq_: Technically there shouldn't be any breaking, since it *is* a distinct type.
16:03:02AraqI know
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16:04:46yglukhovAraq: which one?
16:05:13Araqyglukhov: pushed a fix
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16:06:40yglukhovAraq: looks good, thanks!
16:11:35cheatfateheh...
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16:29:44cheatfatewe need to change semantic a little for asynchttpserver
16:30:12cheatfateaiohttp reads only request body and send to user this information
16:30:39cheatfateif user wants to read post body or any other body it needs to do it with like await getBody()
16:31:49cheatfatebut i think all this changes must be agreed with dom96
16:31:55cheatfatebecause this is breaking change
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16:41:28yglukhovAraq: pls have a look at https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/4256
16:41:31yglukhovbbl
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16:44:16ParashuramaAraq_: Is there any interest in unicode and ASCII escape code support in triple strings. ex: usc"""foo \L shrub \u25cf"""
16:44:19Parashurama Araq_: I already wrote the code a few days ago for a personal project.
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17:08:54AraqParashurama: yeah but it doesn't need to be built into the core, right? nim is flexible enough to do it at compile-time
17:09:42ParashuramaAraq_: actually the proc has the pragma compiletime.
17:10:12ParashuramaAraq_: I thought it would make a nice addition to the unicode module.
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17:13:47ParashuramaAraq_: see gist https://gist.github.com/Parashurama/a2c0971a1c70957379bd7ecc1ec072b8
17:20:00Araqhmm, maybe it should be in the core. seems simple enough.
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17:23:05ParashuramaAraq_: I will make a PR and we can discuss it there.
17:23:17Araqyummy
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17:25:31ParashuramaAraq_: BTW should I use 'L' or "L". I seem to remember an issue with portable newlines.
17:27:09AraqI remember newlines working as they should. They don't work like in C though. So sue me.
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20:03:56ParashuramaAraq_: If you are still there. I managed to remove all dependencies in the code. so its all contained in 70 LOC. see gist: https://gist.github.com/Parashurama/a2c0971a1c70957379bd7ecc1ec072b8
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20:05:28ParashuramaAraq_: I assume you meant adding the proc to lexer.nim ie: getEscapedCharsTriple or something.
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20:12:20ParashuramaAraq_: I think I will just improve proc getString(L: var TLexer, ...) and proc getEscapedChar(L: var TLexer, ...). It would then add the \uXXXX syntax to simple string.
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20:27:51AraqParashurama: yup, that's what I had in mind too
20:29:39ParashuramaAraq_: I'm not sure I should change default behavior for triple string since they are treated as rawstring
20:29:56Araqyou shouldn't
20:30:08ParashuramaAraq_: maybe another kind of string or something else? what do you suggest
20:30:49Araq"""foo bar""" & "\u2323" & """workaround"""
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20:31:07Araqthat's what I had in mind when I designed """
20:31:22ParashuramaAraq_: Yes, I think thats good enough for now.
20:32:09ParashuramaThinking about it its must better than escaping newlines in triple string: it ignore indentation.
20:34:51ParashuramaAraq_: thanks, PR for tomorrow.
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21:04:17cheatfateAraq, i want to speak about futures and concurrency
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21:08:03cheatfateJust want to know how you want to do it
21:10:13Araqoh? I thought you would tell me
21:11:15AraqI have 1 thread accepting connections, each connection is then handled by one thread in a thread pool
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21:13:59cheatfateAraq, there is problem just because we have current Future implementation is `ref` so to complete it we need to complete it in thread which has this Future
21:14:36cheatfateAnd if we make Future to use shared memory there will be problems with memory leaks i think
21:15:52cheatfateand also which thread will `poll` or all threads will `poll`
21:21:01cheatfatei'm thinking about coroutines
21:21:18cheatfatewhich has storage for futures which this coroutine started
21:21:32cheatfateso it can be notified
21:21:37cheatfateabout future is completed
21:42:44cheatfateAraq, i know you have some experience with coroutines
21:43:24Araqwell in my design the thread pool just gets socket handles
21:43:42Araqthese are ints so they can be passed around without problems
21:43:57Araqand then the worker thread produces the Future etc.
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21:51:08cheatfateI cannot clearly understand all this mechanic
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22:01:33cheatfateSo is why i'm asking for help :)
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22:03:06cheatfateAraq, and i dont trust pthreads... recently i have found that some crazy difference between our Lock semantic in Windows and Unix
22:03:31cheatfateWindows allow many enters to our Lock within one thread but pthreads no
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22:10:53Araqthat's not crazy, that's documented
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22:12:42cheatfateThis can cause a problems using yield and threads at the same time
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22:22:36Mat4hello
22:32:58cheatfatenimdoc makes me crazy it shows `imports` of modules imported in `when isMainModule and not defined(nimdoc):` section
22:33:16Araqcheatfate: I'm very tired, let's discuss async concurrency tomorrow, ok?
22:33:30cheatfateok
22:33:32cheatfatenp
22:33:52Araqbut I already told you to copy lwan's architecture :P
22:33:59Araqor whatever its name is
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22:41:25cheatfatei just trying to avoid creation of asyncdispatch from scratch
22:41:39cheatfatetomorrow i will create branch with new asyncdispatch
22:41:58cheatfateand publish my changes
22:42:04cheatfateto current asyncdispatch
22:42:26cheatfateso discussion will begins tomorrow :)
22:42:47cheatfatei have made it fully compatible with old one
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22:55:03PumpkinThere is a problem in Nim website.
22:55:33PumpkinClick on the Support page.
22:56:53AraqPumpkin: what about it?
22:57:12PumpkinAt the bottom of the page.
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22:57:40Pumpkinthe news list covers the bottom of the page
22:57:51Araqah some layouting problem.
22:58:12Araqseems hard to fix :P we'll get a new website soon anyway.
22:58:23Pumpkin?
22:58:30Pumpkinnew website?
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22:59:48PumpkinAraq, who said that?
22:59:54Araqme.
23:00:02PumpkinWho are you?
23:01:46PumpkinAraq, who are you? A Nim developer?
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23:02:30Araqyeah, I'm the dude that started the Nim project.
23:02:51PumpkinAndreas Rumpf?!
23:03:20Araqaye.
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23:04:37PumpkinI believe in you, Araq.
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23:04:49PumpkinI believe your project.
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23:05:48mccHello... i'm building a simple nim app and i'm confused about a few things...
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23:06:19PumpkinWhat few things, mcc?
23:06:50mccfirst off... i'm interested in using nimYAML http://flyx.github.io/NimYAML/ .... i tried running the "Loading Nim objects from JSON" example at that URL... when I run it I get the error c:\users\andi\.nimble\pkgs\nimyaml-0.4.0\yaml.nim(542, 45) Error: undeclared identifier: 'JsonNode'
23:07:08mccthis is running in msys2 with the nim from the website
23:07:43mccthere are two things about this error... first off, what do you suppose i should do about it... and second off, i checked out nimyaml from github, and was able to run the test suite and it worked... which makes me wonder... how does nim decide where to load libraries from, and could i make the version in my github preempt the one in nimble?
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23:08:36PumpkinSo, your problem is installation?
23:08:44cheatfatemcc, i think you need latest `devel` version of nim from github
23:08:52mcccheatfate: i'm using it
23:09:02cheatfate`this is running in msys2 with the nim from the website`
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23:09:12PumpkinGuys, can I just say one thing?
23:09:24mccpumpkin: well, module installation. nim has worked fine on other files and i can use sdl2 from nimble
23:10:06PumpkinGuys, can I just say one thing?
23:10:13mcccheatfate: oh, i am sorry. i blanked. i started off with nim from the website, then i downloaded one from git and built it myself. it's ... commit 0ef391b4ccd
23:10:35mccthe error i am seeing right now is commit 0ef391b4ccd i built myself.
23:10:47cheatfatethen maybe you need flyx but he is away currently
23:11:10Pumpkinmcc and cheatfate, can I just say one thing?
23:11:24mccpumpkin i don't think you need my permission :)
23:11:43mccbut yes please go ahead?
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23:11:51PumpkinI love Nim. No joke.
23:12:05mccMy other problems I was having: Second, this is really basic, but how do I append an item to a list? The only thing I can figure out is ARRAYNAME += @[ ITEM ] which seems... weird
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23:12:21AraqPumpkin: thanks :-)
23:12:34Araqmcc: myseq.add(item)
23:12:34mcci am definitely impressed so far
23:13:00mccaraq: oh, i see that in the manual now. ok
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23:13:23mccIs there a recommended type to use for something like a dictionary or a hash table (either in the stdlib or in nimble)?
23:13:37Araqmcc: flyx is here in #nim he should be able to help with yaml
23:13:58Araqtables module is in the stdlib
23:14:42mcccool
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23:39:11mcc... two part question... "maze.nim(34, 10) Error: type mismatch: got (proc (){.locks: 0.}) but expected 'proc (){.gcsafe.}'" I am assigning an anonymous proc to a variable which is typed gcsafe. Does this error message mean "The anonymous proc you assigned accessed a global garbage-collected variable"?
23:41:23mccand, uh... the second part i figured out myself
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