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| 00:14:52 | dom96 | wan: Regarding the SSL slowness: i'm not sure what the problem is. But it seems to happen with large responses. I think google's main page is small. |
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| 03:27:09 | bogen | frustrating... I can't get an isolated snippet to prove it.... some_var += somefunc (blah, bleh) fails horriblly, but some_temp = somefunc (blah, bleh) then some_var += some_temp works fine. |
| 03:28:03 | bogen | this is in compile time code, so no c code is being generated |
| 03:29:18 | bogen | I have many other places where the same some_var += somefunc (blah, bleh) idiom works fine (in compile time code) |
| 03:29:36 | Varriount-Mobile | Meeep |
| 03:31:55 | bogen | some_var is an int, the initial value is less then 10. somefunc returns some value less then 10 (Both > 0). in the first case some_var would end up with value in the trillions |
| 03:32:12 | bogen | but in the second case it has the correct value |
| 03:33:25 | bogen | I'm going to remove all the some_var += somefunc (blah, bleh) idioms in that macro and replace them with storing the intermediate then accumulating |
| 03:49:23 | bogen | SIGSEGV: Illegal storage access. (Attempt to read from nil?) I'm getting those on calls to parseUntil. (every thing I'm passing in is initialized, I echo them before hand) |
| 04:02:31 | bogen | the call stack is getting corrupted |
| 04:02:53 | bogen | I made a copy of parseUntil and called it in stead |
| 04:03:12 | bogen | I echo the variables before calling parseUntil |
| 04:03:17 | bogen | they are fine |
| 04:03:52 | Varriount-Mobile | Eew.. Memory corruptions are horrid |
| 04:04:15 | bogen | in parseUntil it bombs on token (which is var) and was working on several previous calls to parseUntil |
| 04:04:19 | bogen | well, this in the VM |
| 04:04:24 | bogen | not with C code |
| 04:04:32 | bogen | with C code I figure out what is going wrong |
| 04:09:24 | bogen | I can't trust the VM right now... I'm going to have to punt and use staticExec |
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| 04:35:33 | bogen | when compiled it works fine (Same code that in the VM was freaking out) |
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| 07:32:49 | bogen | so, the VM seems fine as long as you do don't do alot of complex things in it in a single macro invocation |
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| 08:39:49 | Araq | bogen: well the VM eats lots of complex code but the truth is Nim is a bitch to interpret properly. I'm not sure if we should try and fix the remaining bugs or go for the "screw this, use the C backend at compile time" |
| 08:43:56 | Araq | this way you'd also get the FFI for free |
| 09:00:38 | bogen | yeah |
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| 09:13:00 | bogen | will the supposed JIT fix any of this? Or is it tied to VM limitations? |
| 09:24:23 | Araq | the JIT is an alternative that fixes VM's bugs as a side effect |
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| 09:59:34 | dom96 | hi |
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| 13:29:02 | EXetoC | did you say the next version was going to be released yesterday? oh well :p got more time to work on the wrapper then |
| 13:31:03 | dom96 | yeah, things never go according to plan. |
| 13:31:24 | dom96 | we made lots of progress though |
| 13:31:34 | EXetoC | yep |
| 13:35:10 | EXetoC | anyway, got any suggestions for C libs to rewrite in nimrod with a 1:1 binary compatibility? |
| 13:36:01 | EXetoC | porting an existing lib in that way might not be very practical, but it would serve as a proof-of-concept at least. lots of ugly macros could be removed etc |
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| 13:37:18 | dom96 | pcre :P |
| 13:38:33 | EXetoC | ok |
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| 13:40:13 | dom96 | hrm, AoE2: HD is on sale. |
| 13:41:53 | EXetoC | I do care a lot about re-use these days, and many libs are implemented in some language that isn't compatible with C |
| 13:42:21 | EXetoC | nice |
| 13:42:53 | EXetoC | windows only :< |
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| 13:45:21 | dom96 | EXetoC: would probably work in wine |
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| 13:46:57 | Varriount|Mobile | Araq_bnc: Again, despite the bugs, the VM is quite good, especially when one considers the amount of time it was written in and the complexity of the language it runs. |
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| 13:49:20 | Araq | Varriount|Mobile: thanks. the question remains though what to do with it. Oh well, I'll fix the remaining bugs or at least try to make it report "cannot interpret X" |
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| 14:01:58 | bogen | Varriount|Mobile: I'm sure the VM is fine for most things. It is just not some of the things I'm trying to do... (which work fine when compiled to the c/c++ backend) |
| 14:02:38 | bogen | (using the C++ backend, via clang++, as I have a lot of C++ code to interface to) |
| 14:08:02 | Araq | bogen: even longish programs that demonstrate the bugs are better than no bug reports at all |
| 14:34:39 | bogen | Araq: I will file a bug report with a larger example. |
| 14:37:50 | Araq | thanks |
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| 15:41:15 | bogen | https://github.com/Araq/Nimrod/issues/1512 not the runtime errors yet, this is a compiler issue I was running into (affects both VM and the c/c++ backends) |
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| 15:53:57 | Araq | bogen: this looks like a lambda lifting bug, not a VM bug |
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| 16:00:11 | OrionPK | is the JIT what makes nake work w/o generating an exe? :) |
| 16:00:55 | Araq | nake doesn't require much I think |
| 16:01:09 | Araq | it only needs more stuff in vmops.nim |
| 16:01:19 | Araq | and then it should work good enough |
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| 16:22:47 | EXetoC | OrionPK: how do you do that with nake? |
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| 16:24:06 | EXetoC | uh, static? |
| 16:24:31 | OrionPK | hm? |
| 16:24:38 | OrionPK | needs a compiler option too i think |
| 16:24:43 | OrionPK | to not actually generate an output |
| 16:24:47 | OrionPK | or pragma |
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| 16:38:07 | OrionPK | so nake could automatically inject a {.nooutput.} or something |
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| 17:18:48 | bogen | https://github.com/Araq/Nimrod/issues/1513 this is the variable corruption I was talking about. However, it is finicky and moving stuff around can make the problem go away. I just have not seen this issue in the C/C++ backends with the same code. |
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| 17:21:27 | Araq | bogen: ok, thanks |
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| 17:24:53 | Varriount|Mobile | OrionPK: Fix your connection please |
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| 17:25:22 | Varriount|Mobile | OrionPK: Fox your connection please |
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| 17:27:54 | OrionPK | sorry. i think it's the server |
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| 17:43:30 | EXetoC | really? |
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| 18:26:04 | EXetoC | symbol re-ordering. fun |
| 18:29:10 | EXetoC | the union/struct enhancements for c2nim work well |
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| 18:40:50 | EXetoC | omitting "language" from "nimrod programming language" on google makes it seem like the language is very obscure |
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| 18:44:50 | EXetoC | will the comment changes make it into this release? |
| 18:48:23 | EXetoC | doesn't seem like it |
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| 18:54:11 | Araq | EXetoC: yes they will |
| 18:55:18 | EXetoC | great. I was just making an assumption based on the milestone list |
| 19:00:41 | Araq | dom96: updated asynchttpserver yet? |
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| 19:12:37 | dom96 | Araq: hrm? |
| 19:13:55 | Araq | well it doesn't compile for me |
| 19:17:45 | dom96 | maybe I didn't |
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| 20:21:19 | NimBot | Araq/Nimrod bigbreak 6e321f7 Dominik Picheta [+0 ±2 -0]: Fixes asynchttpserver. |
| 20:22:58 | Araq | yay |
| 20:23:11 | Varriount|Mobile | Yay? |
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| 20:30:12 | dom96 | Varriount|Mobile: My work is worthy of a yay. |
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| 21:05:57 | Araq | hi cypriotme welcome |
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| 21:06:10 | Mat3 | hello |
| 21:06:19 | Araq | hi Mat3 |
| 21:11:18 | Mat3 | hi Araq |
| 21:11:42 | Varriount | Hm.. Let's see what tests are failing on the BigBreaj branch... |
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| 21:13:05 | Araq | Varriount: most tests should be easy to fix |
| 21:15:18 | Araq | good night |
| 21:15:26 | Varriount | Night |
| 21:16:41 | Mat3 | how difficult would it be to add an {.microcode.} pragma in Nimrod ? |
| 21:17:01 | Varriount | Mat3: What would such a pragma do? |
| 21:17:45 | Mat3 | compile a proc to a microcode sequence for a given CPU (extending the instruction set) |
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| 21:20:30 | Mat3 | hmm, it is only needed to mark a proc so for the code generator, sorry |
| 21:23:48 | EXetoC | how does that compose? |
| 21:29:04 | Varriount | dom96: ping |
| 21:44:20 | Mat3 | compse ? |
| 21:44:27 | Mat3 | ^compose |
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| 22:10:10 | dom96 | Varriount: yes? |
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| 22:14:03 | Varriount | dom96: Does anything need to be done to get the builder working? |
| 22:14:20 | Varriount | Aside from getting the bigbreak branch manually bootstrapped. |
| 22:14:40 | dom96 | you shouldn't even have to do that |
| 22:14:56 | dom96 | but you need to update it |
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| 22:17:15 | Varriount | dom96: Well I'm getting a "Error: unhandled exception: The system cannot find the file specified." error |
| 22:17:28 | dom96 | yes |
| 22:17:30 | dom96 | update the builder |
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