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07:37:26flyxI have encountered this strange error: https://gist.github.com/flyx/cd1be6558aaa0663bb09726d9ece0c4d
07:37:52flyxit looks like Nim is saying „I expected this type and you gave me exactly this exact same type, but they do not match“
07:38:16flyxI am unsure whether this is a bug or I am doing something wrong
07:39:06flyxit seems strange that I have to convert @[local] to PrefixContent, but the type looks different if I don't
07:39:41flyxalso, I am unsure why the first type is enclosed in parentheses and the second type in single quotes
07:39:51flyxis Nim telling me that I gave it an unary tuple?
07:42:46ftsf_flyx, are the ()s important?
07:43:26flyxthose in my code are. those in the error message… I don't know
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11:03:45NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel 0a90613 Andreas Rumpf [+0 ±1 -0]: nimsuggest: correct documentation
11:03:45NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel f6a2ff7 Andreas Rumpf [+1 ±1 -0]: fixes #4672
11:03:45NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel 3a13706 Andreas Rumpf [+1 ±18 -0]: fixes #4673
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11:29:13endragorcheatfate_: Hi! How do I unregister an AsyncEvent with upcoming/asyncdispatch? `close` just closes the FDs without properly clearing the Selector. There is unregitster(s: Selector[T], ev: SelectEvent) in `ioselectors` but there are no procs that invoke it in asyncdispatch.
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11:33:03endragorcheatfate_: also, please start using Gitter if it wouldn't bother you too much. It's getting quite active lately, need more active Nim programmers there
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12:09:36endragordom96: shouldn't future.waitFor() do smth like `if fut.failed: raise else: return fut.read` ? at the moment user gets exception created from `fut.read`. Intuitively I thought it would raise the future's original exception.
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14:45:40cheatfate_endragor, i really hate web based chats
14:47:32endragorcheatfate_: do you mean the fact that they reside in the browser or their UI or..? Gitter has installable apps too
14:48:19endragorhttps://gitter.im/apps
14:49:00flyxthe screenshot alone gave me eyecancer.
14:50:32cheatfate_endragor, but looks like this apps are just one more webbrowsers for my pc
14:50:32flyxwhy are people so eager to scatter online communities into countless non-interoparable chat services?
14:52:09cheatfate_flyx, maybe because they try to attract more people to project, or maybe they are too young to use IRC :)
14:52:29endragorcheatfate_: what's exactly bad about that? any app you open has its window. Gitter also integrates with system tray and sends native system notifications when installed as an app. I don't see how it's different from any other app in this regard
14:53:01endragorthere is https://irc.gitter.im/ for oldfags
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14:53:26cheatfate_endragor, maybe because this is simple chat, and i dont want to get some malicious javascript code in chat...
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14:55:50endragorcheatfate_: ugh... Do you also disable JavaScript in the browser? Anyway, as I said, you could join https://irc.gitter.im/ so that you are at least available for people enjoying a properly built GitHub-oriented chat app :-P
14:56:05flyxendragor: do you realize how much of an impact a standards-compliant UI design has compared to a non-standard one? Windows folks never seem to have cared, but OSX folks do. this is why this app looks so horrible.
14:56:48flyxbut people nowadays seem to think that all good UI design can be done with HTML+CSS…
14:57:41endragorflyx: I'm OS X guy. and I think all the IRC clients (at least free ones) are total piece of crap compared to Gitter
14:57:46NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel 9c44403 Andreas Rumpf [+0 ±1 -0]: fixes #4693
14:57:46NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel 11f7eb2 Andreas Rumpf [+0 ±1 -0]: fixes #4689
14:58:18endragorI look at paid ones and they don't look better from free ones from design perspective
14:58:36endragorlooked*
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15:02:32flyxwell based on what I used, I'd say that OSX IRC clients are design-wise far above Windows or Linux ones. or gitter, for that matter
15:02:56endragorflyx: what did you use?
15:03:16flyxI used Linkinus for some time, but that got discontinued, now I use Textual
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15:04:57endragorflyx: I'm not intending to scatter the community. I think IRC (freenode) should be abandoned and Gitter should be used as the main point of communication. People hating Web, Electron, GUI or otherwise feeling nostalgic about 1990s or earlier or hating Gitter UI specifically could use https://irc.gitter.im/ . So everyone wins
15:05:24euantorWhy though, what's wrong with IRC?
15:05:36euantorIt works everywhere, is well proven and has an open protocol
15:06:35euantorIf you want notifications and stuff, IRCCloud works great (and is what I use)
15:06:54endragoreuantor: you have an option to use IRC with Gitter, as I said. Gitter has plenty of features intended for programming communities: markdown support, issue preview, commit previev, syntax highlight, better UX, lower entry barrier
15:07:20euantorClosed protocol, no idea if they'll shut down in 6 months time or move to being paid only
15:07:47euantorWe looked at it for another project I work on, and their moderaiton tools are also pretty bad and they request write access to repositories you use with it
15:08:00euantorI would never trust a web app I barely know with write access to any of my repositories
15:08:20flyxI wonder, what would be the gain of someone in this chat room for whom IRC is too high of an entry barrier
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15:08:58flyxanyway, it is just exchanging one login provider with another.
15:09:48flyxand I can see someone coming next day saying „Slack is the new shit, we need to use it“
15:10:01cheatfate_endragor, about unregister of AsyncEvent, you just need to return True from your callback and it will be unregistered
15:10:04flyxand then what?
15:10:07euantorOr Discord, r whatever new fangled thing happens to be popular at the time
15:11:12endragorflyx: euantor: do you think I'm not being objective? I provide reasoning, while you argue with vague statements
15:11:20cheatfate_endragor, i will deinstalled gitter just because of `better ux` and `browser usage`
15:11:25cheatfate_i have deinstalled
15:12:05euantorI'm not saying that, I just don't understand how Gitter is any better than IRC and cannot see any reasons for people to stop using IRC and use it instead
15:12:11endragorI've used both Gitter and IRC, and Gitter is an order of magnitude more convenient than IRC. You cannot even type multi-line message conveniently in IRC. And that's often needed when providing small samples. Syntax highlight works awesomely, too
15:12:15euantoror use their experimental IRC support
15:12:48euantorI'm in the Gitter room right now, and there is very little going on, whilst IRC has plenty of activity
15:13:02flyxyeah same here, I don't see how Gitter is any better than IRC. moreover, it is a commercial provider, kind of has that startup smell around it, while freenode is a trusted, community-funded provider
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15:14:05cheatfatecommon guys, stop this brand new holy war...
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15:14:17cheatfateand stop advertising new chat services here please :)
15:14:32euantorOr at least shift to #nim-offtopic
15:14:50Araqjust so you know: I don't have a real opinion on this matter and will follow along on what the community decides, though ofc we need an IRC bridge should we switch
15:15:22endragoreuantor: the point is to increase the activity there. I don't think there is a lot of activity going here though. usually few conversations per day.
15:18:49cheatfateendragor, you need to understand activity not depends on type of chat service
15:19:16cheatfateits like people must speak at bar or at home
15:19:43cheatfatenothing changes except some more `useless` people around :)
15:21:23endragorcheatfate: the point is to increase activity there not just to increase activity, but because it's a better place (in my humble opinion, of course). it also has IRC bridge so IRC fans also benefit. I said this before, anyway. I think we should finish, if those arguments don't work.
15:24:18cheatfateendragor, your arguments looks like (i like bar with striptease, so i'm trying to invite everybody who sitting in simple dark bar with alcohol only, to new bar with striptease and alcohol)
15:25:21endragorcheatfate: they would, if not for IRC bridge :-P Your argument is actually more like that (I'm forced to use IRC at the moment even though I dislike it)
15:25:23flyxwell I really hope that Matrix gets to be a thing in the future so we do not need to have those fruitless conversations, but I have little hope. it already failed with XMPP and probably will fail again.
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15:28:41endragorcheatfate: back to async topic: ev.close() on Windows behaves differently from ev.close() on other platforms. on Windows it does unregister the event, while it doesn't on others
15:29:15endragorI think it makes sense to unregister event when closing it. I already fixed that, planning to make a PR along with a couple of other fixes
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16:00:06dom96endragor: the act of reading raises the exception anyway
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16:01:32dom96wtf, did my messages disappear on Gitter?
16:01:33endragordom96: right, but the message gets expanded with stacktrace
16:02:15endragorexception message I mean
16:02:33federico3+1 euantor
16:03:06endragordom96: messages where you were advertising the book and the need of IRC<->Gitter bridge? they are there
16:03:36dom96There is no need to "switch"
16:03:44dom96endragor: I don't see them
16:04:00dom96but anyway, let me say what I think: let the will of the people rule.
16:04:19dom96if people want to use Gitter then let them
16:04:29dom96I don't think it's fair to try and force people to do so though
16:04:34dom96We should simply set up a bridge
16:05:10dom96endragor: Here is what I see: blob:http://imgur.com/6f83a65f-bc34-334d-9f23-87a14bee5265
16:05:18dom96ugh, the fuck Firefox
16:05:24dom96http://imgur.com/6f83a65f-bc34-334d-9f23-87a14bee5265
16:05:43dom96or rather, imgur
16:05:44dom96http://i.imgur.com/6OJKwSV.png
16:06:07dom96Anyway, the messages go from August 30th straight to today
16:06:08dom96what gives?
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16:06:51dom96ahh, so refreshing helped
16:07:54dom96endragor: if you've got some time then please consider implementing a IRC<->Gitter bridge in Nim
16:08:06dom96I can integrate it into NimBot (or you can too if you'd like)
16:09:56endragordom96: the point is there is nothing to set up with Gitter's own bridge and the integration will be more "native". As I understand, with bot-based integration, it will be the bot posting messages on both sides, not the authors themselves (obviously). So it'll look like `NimBot: endragor: message`. And I'll get an unwanted mention (notification) from IRC client.
16:10:25dom96There is no other way
16:10:48dom96oh, you mean connecting to Gitter's IRC server?
16:10:57endragoryes. what are the points against https://irc.gitter.im/?
16:11:12federico3again?
16:11:22dom96People are already here
16:11:41dom96All 127 people in this channel won't connect to another network
16:11:46dom96even if we highlight them all
16:12:39dom96Your unwanted mentions can easily be solved
16:12:44dom96just set your IRC client to ignore NimBot
16:12:57dom96well, ignore its highlights
16:13:08TrustableHi all, how to escape a "?" to insert it in a sqlite database? It should not interpreted as a placeholder.
16:13:37dom96Trustable: Good question, two "?" maybe?
16:14:09dom96BlaXpirit made a very nice Gitter<->IRC bridge for #crystal
16:14:20dom96Maybe he can chime in on whether that was a good idea
16:14:40TrustableWhen I look at the code, it looks like there is no escape possible: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/master/lib/impure/db_sqlite.nim#L115
16:16:29dom96It seems you are correct :\
16:17:33dom96What if you just pass in "?" as a parameter?
16:17:41dom96so that it replaces '?' with '?' :P
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16:20:41Trustabledom96: yes, but the '?' occur dynamically in a string
16:22:34endragordom96: well, I personally will just uninstall the IRC client, I don't need it except for #nim. But right, anyone using both would have to tweak their IRC client. Anyway, if you want to let the will of the people rule, then could you add Gitter link/badge to `Community` section of Nim README? Or I can make a PR. And you also need to be active on Gitter :-P I'm pretty sure Gitter will naturally attract more people, especially newbies, in the long
16:22:35endragor run.
16:26:11BlaXpiritif you want my opinion: Gitter is terrible. if it doesn't have critical mass, maybe you should be happy about it
16:26:49BlaXpiritgitter's own IRC is terrible. it doesn't implement many IRC features and spams a lot of messages when multiline messages happen
16:27:49endragorBlaXpirit: well, IRC does not support multiline messages afaik
16:28:01endragorthe protocol doesn't support line endings
16:28:36endragorIRC clients usually also split long messages into multiple messages (like my message above)
16:31:06dom96True, but on the other hand. Gitter freezes my browser whenever I scroll up to read the messages I've missed :P
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16:31:25dom96Feel free to create a PR for that
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16:32:13dom96If we create a bridge then I won't need to be in Gitter
16:32:18BlaXpiritthe big problems with this integration are multiline messages, inline code pastes, and the worst - message editing
16:32:18dom96and I will still be able to help people
16:32:27BlaXpiritanyhow, i can easily add my bot to your channels, let me know anytime. it's running in 2 channels right now, people are relatively happy.
16:33:03dom96BlaXpirit: ooh, if you could that would be brilliant :)
16:33:33endragorBlaXpirit: well, those come not from the fact that Gitter is terrible, but because IRC protocol is lacking
16:34:05dom96It's a pity that no new protocols based on IRC took off
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16:34:53dom96There are people in this channel who work(ed) on IRC daemons (Xe is one IIRC?) so they can probably shed some light on why they never did.
16:35:04Xehi
16:35:10dom96Xe: hello!
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16:35:21dom96BlaXpirit: do you need anything from us to set it up?
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16:35:38BlaXpiriti don't think so
16:35:49Xetl;dr: irc daemon developers are drama lovers on average
16:36:21euantorSounds about right
16:36:38Xenowadays, i'd suggest people use something like Discord
16:36:51Xeyou don't have to worry as much about being DDOSed
16:37:11dom96hah, yep. perfect tl;dr
16:37:22BlaXpiritoh yeah, i forgot to mention, having such a bot doubles the risk of someone spamming a lot of messages
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16:37:49dom96BlaXpirit: we should be fine
16:37:58Xelike, i have several IRC networks i own
16:38:02FromGitter<dom96> cool, it works!
16:38:08Xejust use something else
16:38:14Xe(if you can)
16:38:27dom96BlaXpirit: thanks! :)
16:38:32BlaXpiritnp
16:38:32BlaXpiritif you enable colors in the channel it looks a bit better (names are in bold)
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16:39:10Xedamn
16:39:11Xemlock
16:39:15dom96D:
16:39:21dom96chanserv is rather slow right now it seems
16:41:00dom96argh, how do I lift this damn mlock?
16:41:28Xe/msg chanserv set #nim mlock +nt-c
16:41:45dom96thanks
16:41:53dom96you'd think /cs help mlock would show something
16:42:23Xe/cs help set mlock
16:42:34BlaXpiritas long as you have someone to kick the bot in IRC, I think that should stop it entirely as an emergency measure. it has no commands to control it
16:43:54BlaXpiritfor best experience you may want to warn Gitter users to avoid multiline messages, and especially pasting code right in the message. also that their edits will not be seen
16:44:02BlaXpiritthis can be done in gitter's welcome message
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16:48:41FromGitter<Araq> when I type here, will it show up in IRC?
16:48:54FromGitter<Araq> indeed. cool :-)
16:50:33dom96BlaXpirit: How does this bot work? Does it just use the Gitter API or does it use their IRC bridge?
16:51:03BlaXpiritdom96, uses Gitter's API - https://api.gitter.im/v1/
16:51:35BlaXpiritum https://developer.gitter.im/docs/streaming-api
16:51:39dom96I was considering writing my own and was wondering if just connecting to the Gitter IRC gateway would work.
16:52:23BlaXpiritdom96, it's quite bad because the IRC bridge by itself drops many details about the messages. I think it is not viable
16:52:47dom96I see
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16:54:09BlaXpiritthe ideal API to use is this one https://developer.gitter.im/docs/faye-endpoint , it has the most features (the only option that also gives you access to message edits). however, it uses some complicated library that's popular only with JavaScript
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16:58:38flyxI don't get how message edits are a useful feature
16:59:05flyxanyone reading the log will be „wtf this doesn't make sense“ when someone edits their messages
16:59:25BlaXpiritthe problem is that they can't be turned off
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17:10:05dom96flyx: the message will have a "This message has been edited" flag though
17:10:30flyxdom96: but this does only help if I can see the original message
17:10:47dom96I think you might be able to
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18:06:37FromGitter<kteza1> This is cooool :)
18:08:07dom96:D
18:14:54Araqis this a permanent solution now?
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18:17:28BlaXpiritwell i'm keeping it up for the foreseeable future, until i'm told to stop it
18:18:20Araqbut it doesn't shut down when you switch off your computer, right?
18:18:25BlaXpiritright
18:18:33Araqok, great
18:18:48cheatfatePlease somebody put a big list of code in gitter so we can see what happens in irc
18:19:34FromGitter<Araq> ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=57c87136928ae0e7346d662a]
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18:20:14FromGitter<Araq> works great too.
18:20:47federico3I suggest renaming the bot with a shorter name e.g. GTR
18:20:55dom96Araq: BlaXpirit ain't no amateur
18:21:23AraqI didn't follow the conversation and it could have been he only set it up for testing purposes
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18:37:56flyxif Nim tells me a proc type does not match, how can I figure out *why* it does not match?
18:38:12flyxI mean, parameter list and return type is the same
18:38:30dom96That's a bug then
18:38:37dom96The compiler simply needs to give better error messages
18:39:01Araqflyx: it's because the effects differ
18:39:06Araqdom96: already reported :P
18:39:08flyxthere are a couple of pragmas on the anonymous proc I enter, but Nim does not show me which ones are expected
18:39:30Araqand I can improve the situation for v0.15
18:40:33flyxinterestingly, I use {.raises:[].} on my anonymous proc, but that does not show up in the list in the error message
18:40:54flyx(it is also set at the expected proc type)
18:40:58Araqif it says 'type mismatch'
18:41:17Araqand a regression then it's due to .noSideEffect differences
18:41:21Araq:D
18:41:48flyxI see the noSideEffect pragma on the proc value I enter
18:41:51flyxso it is not expected?
18:42:23Araqmore like. your proc has side effects but is not allowed to have any
18:42:33Araqjust gist your problem
18:43:09flyxtakes a bit to pick the code for a minimal working example
18:43:25flyxcan the closure pragma have an effect?
18:43:43Araqno, closure is a calling convention
18:43:55Araqbut surely this can be the reason too for types not matching
18:44:55flyxah, well, adding closure on the other side fixed it
18:45:03flyxis closure supported with JS?
18:45:19flyxnot that I rewrite parts of my code and JS compilation then fails on that
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18:49:43AraqJS supports it, yes
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19:01:14flyxgreat
19:01:26flyxbut it seems like it does not support uints
19:02:12flyxor rather, `$` for uints
19:05:51flyxwell, after defining that, NimYAML compiled for JS
19:06:04flyxtomorrow I will set up some JS environment to run the tests on it
19:06:20*flyx never used that nodeJS stuff
19:06:38flyxthat will surely be fun *cough*
19:09:30Araqcool
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20:47:53bogen1how do I copy a memory block (from C) of arbitrary size into a string? Using cpointer it stops at \x00 bytes. If not a string, what applicble nim data structure can be used? (given pointer to data, and size in bytes) I've gotten it to work by copying byte at a time to string, but I'd like a way to copy it all in at once. addr(s[0]) does not work for a destination address.
20:49:47bogen1specifically, I'd like to do a: posix.read (fd, targetAddr, length) # where targetAddr can receive length bytes
20:51:13bogen1I can an alloc, read, copy byte at a time, and decalloc, but I'd like to eliminate the additional steps. I don't care if it is string, seq[uint8], openArray[uint8], etc
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20:54:30kierbogen1: surely you can do: var arr: array[1024, uint8]; posix.read(fd, addr(arr[0]), 1024)
20:54:53bogen1I can do it with fixed sizes as well without much hassle. I just want to avoid fixed sized and manual alloc/dealloc
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20:55:19bogen1kier, that is a fixed size
20:55:42bogen1nim needs the size of an array to be known at compile time
20:55:51kierAh so you mean you don't know 'length' at runtime?
20:56:04kierDo the same thing, but with a seq instead of an array
20:56:35kiervar arr = newSeq[uint8](length)
20:56:40kierI think
20:56:50bogen1is that at contiguous memory?
20:56:53bogen1I'll try it
20:57:00kierYes
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20:58:22AraqnewString(length)
20:58:33AraqcopyMem(addr s[0], ...)
20:58:55bogen1hmm, I thought I tried that
20:59:12kierIs the copy necessary when you can do posix.read straight into the buffer you want it in?
20:59:18AraqI prefer 'string' over seq[byte]
20:59:27Araqkier: in fact, it is not
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20:59:41Araqyou can also do newStringOfCap() and then setLen() later
20:59:44kierthat's what I thought
21:00:28bogen1kier, I'm trying to eliminate the copy, I'll try the newString
21:01:50kierin that case try to write directly into the target buffer if you can. So yeah use newString or newSeq[byte] etc.
21:02:03bogen1eh... before doing addr(result[0]) resulted in an error, now it works....
21:03:01kiermaybe the code you had before wasn't doing what you thought it would do
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21:04:48bogen1well, either way it is working now... thanks kier, thanks Araq
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21:05:19bogen1(without an extra copy, without manual dealloc)
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21:45:30libmanLOL: https://www.openhub.net/p/Nim-lang says 44% of it is written in Python
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21:49:52kierSupposedly it would have cost over $1 million to complete
21:50:05kierhttps://www.openhub.net/p/Nim-lang/estimated_cost
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21:55:53Araqsounds about right
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22:40:31FromGitter<dom96> Ahh. COCOMO. So there is a use for it.
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23:32:47NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel 19f83cc Charles Blake [+0 ±2 -0]: Add terminal.terminalWidth and supporting types/calls.
23:32:47NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel 7b73a94 Charles Blake [+0 ±1 -0]: Oops - L_ctermid must be a global var to compile.
23:32:47NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel 5db1de8 Charles Blake [+0 ±1 -0]: Convert TaintedString to string.
23:32:47NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel 8df2078 Charles Blake [+0 ±2 -0]: Change type name to be more NEP-1-ish as per Araq request.
23:32:47NimBot5 more commits.
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23:38:15rtr_How do I create a list of uint8 and add elements to it?
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