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00:05:36FromDiscord<ahungry> Does nim have anything like https://pylint.pycqa.org/en/latest/pyreverse.html ? (a source code analysis tool that'd produce graphviz dot files of class/import relationships?)
00:10:29FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Yea i mean i": Fair
00:10:42FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> In reply to @Elegantbeef "It needs to support": Generic interfaces being structures?
00:27:14FromDiscord<auxym> In reply to @ahungry "Does nim have anything": have you tried `nim genDepend yourfile.nim`?
00:28:57NimEventerNew thread by Hlaaftana: Upcoming standard library changes, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/9680
00:29:22FromDiscord<ahungry> Wow, not only does it exist, but it's built in? Nim never stops amazing me, and I just started looking at it less than a week ago 😂
01:41:23FromDiscord<Rika> I’m surprised too and I’ve been here for how many years already what
01:41:25FromDiscord<Rika> When was this made
01:45:21FromDiscord<ChocolettePalette> Zamn das crazy
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07:38:28FromDiscord<albassort> In reply to @auxym "have you tried `nim": tily
07:38:32FromDiscord<albassort> (edit) "tily" => "til"
07:39:34FromDiscord<sOkam!> If you were to implement a variable type that can be modified from within the application itself, and could contain different sets of data, how would you do it with Nim?↵_(I know of a solution in pure C, but asking in case Nim has something that could make this nicer, as its usual in this lang)_
07:39:49FromDiscord<sOkam!> (edit) "sets" => "types"
07:40:34FromDiscord<albassort> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1047779219956060230/webscrapeCollege.png
07:40:55FromDiscord<albassort> In reply to @sOkam! "If you were to": Well... you can kinda
07:41:17FromDiscord<albassort> but keep in mind, nim is static, and all types must be known and accounted for by compile time
07:42:01FromDiscord<albassort> you can really only do it for parameters in functions, I dont think you can declare variables like that
07:42:42FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Object variants exist
07:42:51FromDiscord<albassort> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hly
07:43:02FromDiscord<albassort> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Object variants exist": how do you declare variables with it
07:43:32FromDiscord<sOkam!> the C solution is using strings, and coding a system for parsing their contents when used. but i figured there could be something better than that
07:43:37FromDiscord<amadan> In reply to @sOkam! "If you were to": Could use `JsonNode` and just convert to/from↵But its pretty inefficient
07:43:50FromDiscord<albassort> listen to beef
07:43:51FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Tagged unions exist so does inheritance
07:43:52FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> use one of those
07:44:08FromDiscord<albassort> give an example of tagged unions
07:44:15FromDiscord<albassort> pls
07:44:16FromDiscord<sOkam!> was gonna ask for that
07:44:36FromDiscord<sOkam!> i've never heard of those two options, so an example for them would be nice
07:45:03FromDiscord<albassort> i dont know how'd you use inheritance here but c'est la vie
07:45:20FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @amadan "Could use `JsonNode` and": parsing a config file from yaml/json into the initialization of the app, sure. but using its data all around it doesn't look good for a game engine 🤷‍♂️
07:46:10FromDiscord<amadan> If you're parsing a config file then making an object that represents it would make sense instead
07:46:23FromDiscord<albassort> In reply to @amadan "If you're parsing a": +1
07:46:34FromDiscord<albassort> you don't need type nonsense
07:46:40FromDiscord<albassort> you can make it make sense using objects
07:46:46FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @amadan "If you're parsing a": how do you represent an arbitrary object with that?
07:47:55FromDiscord<sOkam!> the goal is that the engine has the system for the data, and the game declares what data it wants to use↵hardcoding an object with X fields makes that functionality impossible, unless im missing something↵that's why this variable type im mentioning uses C strings, and then handles the storing/getting the data with a parser
07:47:56FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#types-object-variants
07:47:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://internet-of-tomohiro.netlify.app/nim/faq.en.html#coding-how-to-store-different-types-in-seqqmark look at the example here that uses oop
07:48:29FromDiscord<Require Support> how do i get the address of a `const`? I'm using `slurp` so I can't use `let` or `var`
07:49:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You cannot
07:49:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `let myConst = slurp("bleh")`
07:50:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> if that doesnt work do `let myConst = static(slurp"bleh")`
07:50:42FromDiscord<Require Support> static worked, thanks
07:51:05NimEventerNew Nimble package! apt_brain - apt for SHARP Brain, see https://github.com/genkaisoft/apt-brain
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07:59:36FromDiscord<sOkam!> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hlB
08:02:15FromDiscord<sOkam!> I guess it wouldn't be a variant if done this way, since they would be considered different types due to the lack of a common root? 🤔
08:02:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Correct you cannot upcast them to the same container
08:02:45FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Since `Boxed` is a generic
08:04:43FromDiscord<sOkam!> could there be a way to use this and be able to say `thing = 10`, instead of having to say `thing.data = 10`?
08:04:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `thing = boxed(10)`
08:05:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> you could make your own operator
08:05:34FromDiscord<sOkam!> like `:=` in go i guess
08:05:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea
08:05:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hlC
08:06:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Due to how this works it might not be the best solution
08:06:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Object variants are faster and less awkward
08:10:57FromDiscord<sOkam!> isn't this functionality object variants?
08:11:07FromDiscord<sOkam!> i thought your code was an example of them
08:21:13FromDiscord<sOkam!> Docs breaking my brain, as per usual. I don't think I'm following this object variants description 😔↵How can a language make SO much sense, and the explanations of that language given by its own creators make literally no sense at all? Such polar opposites, damn↵I will die happy if I ever understand why that happens 🤷‍♂️
08:22:00FromDiscord<sOkam!> Is this functionality similar to macros, but for variables instead?
08:37:45FromDiscord<sOkam!> How do you create and use a very very minimal and simple object variant type that can only contain `int, float or string`?
08:38:24FromDiscord<sOkam!> Maybe that can clarify the functionality a little bit. The docs explain the full feature set, but I'm not understanding the essence I believe
08:41:59FromDiscord<Rika> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hlG
08:48:21FromDiscord<sOkam!> how do you use the object after? 🤔
08:50:10FromDiscord<Rika> `var variant = Variant(kind: yourKind); # you can set the specific fields after, or inside the construction too`
08:52:32FromDiscord<sOkam!> would you need a custom operator for assigning new data to the variable, without having to do `variant[] = Variant(...)`?
08:54:09FromDiscord<sOkam!> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hlH
08:59:53FromDiscord<amadan> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/PFd
09:01:58FromDiscord<sOkam!> right, so the values are actually just like normal fields, but the language knows they are types?
09:02:13FromDiscord<sOkam!> aka you need to access the field itself by name?
09:02:23FromDiscord<sOkam!> (edit) "name?" => "name mandatory, as usual?"
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09:07:36FromDiscord<amadan> Yeah just normal fields↵The benefit is that its a tagged union so `intVal`, `floatVal`, `stringVal` take the same place in memory e.g. the size of the object is `sizeof(Discrimant) + max(sizeof(int), sizeof(float), sizeof(string))` instead of `sizeof(Discrimant) + sizeof(int) + sizeof(float) + sizeof(string)`
09:07:52FromDiscord<amadan> (Least for the C/C++ backends)
09:09:36FromDiscord<sOkam!> gotchu
09:22:34FromDiscord<guttural666> anyway to get the type of the elements of a sequence the nice way? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1047804889574686720/image.png
09:23:43FromDiscord<amadan> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hlR
09:24:06FromDiscord<amadan> (Doesn't evaluate inside the typeof so works on empty seqs)
09:24:08FromDiscord<guttural666> just works if its not empty right
09:24:15FromDiscord<guttural666> oh!
09:24:29FromDiscord<guttural666> well what a happy coincidence 😄 perfect, thanks!
09:31:58FromDiscord<sOkam!> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hlU
09:32:31FromDiscord<sOkam!> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hlU" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hlV"
09:33:50FromDiscord<sOkam!> The idea would be to have the syntax for reassigning the memory of the object variant, hidden between a simpler `:=` that checks for the type given
09:34:00FromDiscord<sOkam!> (edit) "between" => "behind"
09:34:38FromDiscord<sOkam!> also, does `[T]` go before or after ``? im always confused by the order
09:40:11FromDiscord<amadan> `[T]` goes after ``↵`` goes directly after symbols (i.e. names of stuff like procs and variables)
09:40:24FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @guttural666 "well what a happy": There is also https://nim-lang.org/docs/typetraits.html#elementType.t%2Cuntyped
09:41:31FromDiscord<srozb> hey, does anybody knows why nimib `nbCode` block outputs `&quot;` instead of `"` when rendering as markdown? is there any trick for that or is it my mistake?
09:42:25FromDiscord<guttural666> In reply to @Rika "There is also https://nim-lang.org/docs/typetraits.": thanks for the info, but the index accessor variant is perfect 🙂
09:42:44FromDiscord<Rika> Just saying there is one more way
09:42:59FromDiscord<Rika> You can’t index an iterator
09:43:06FromDiscord<amadan> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hlW
09:46:08FromDiscord<sOkam!> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hlX
09:48:19FromDiscord<sOkam!> side note, how would you store a bunch of boolean flags as part of one object with Nim?↵I know of `and or` to extract booleans out of integers, but wondering if there is something cleaner in the lang already
09:49:19FromDiscord<amadan> Oh whoops just saw that in manual, never knew.↵Since you parameter is var you could replace each branch with `v = Variant(kind: aSomething, thField: val)`
09:49:35FromDiscord<sOkam!> kk ✍️
09:49:55FromDiscord<amadan> In reply to @sOkam! "side note, how would": Use a set which is basically sugar around extracting bools from an integer
09:51:01FromDiscord<amadan> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hm0
09:51:18FromDiscord<sOkam!> damn thats so much better to read, wtf
09:51:26FromDiscord<sOkam!> man i love this lang
09:52:22FromDiscord<sOkam!> how do you declare the set?
09:52:29FromDiscord<sOkam!> the type of the set, sry
09:52:51FromDiscord<sOkam!> `let x: set[Foo]`?
09:53:01FromDiscord<amadan> Yup
09:59:50FromDiscord<sOkam!> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hm6
10:01:10FromDiscord<amadan> Ye, you'd just need to add an else branch that has like `{.error: $typeof(val) & " is not supported".}`
10:01:28FromDiscord<sOkam!> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hm9
10:06:08FromDiscord<albassort> so
10:06:14FromDiscord<albassort> im 99% sure threads kinda just die
10:07:00FromDiscord<sOkam!> would this also work for regular assignment during value initialization on `let var const` like `=` would? 🤔
10:07:01FromDiscord<amadan> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hma
10:07:31FromDiscord<amadan> What like `let x := "string"`?
10:07:38FromDiscord<sOkam!> yep
10:08:52FromDiscord<amadan> Don't think so. iirc you can't overload the assignment operator to have a different right hand type
10:08:55FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @amadan "Seems like you could": don't believe json nodes are fit for game engine code, unless im completely mislead on how they operate
10:09:37FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @amadan "Don't think so. iirc": kk. could always do `let x = variant("string")`, but was just wondering
10:12:02FromDiscord<amadan> They mightn't be, but if not getting accessed too often in a hot loop then should be fineish↵More just thinking about developer time since it saves you needing to implement variant fields for every type you want
10:13:05FromDiscord<sOkam!> it would probably just be `int, float, string, color`, parsed from a string. shouldn't be too bad? 🤔
10:13:20FromDiscord<amadan> ah ok, not many then
10:13:30FromDiscord<sOkam!> the idea is not to use them for everything, just for configurable parts of the engine from the ingame-console
10:21:45NimEventerNew thread by drkameleon: Parsing Unicode and lexbase, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/9681
10:23:41FromDiscord<sOkam!> is `nil` a type?
10:25:42FromDiscord<sOkam!> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hmb
10:25:59FromDiscord<sOkam!> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hmb" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hmc"
10:32:24FromDiscord<amadan> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hme
10:33:40FromDiscord<sOkam!> that also works, yep! tyty
10:43:11FromDiscord<hugogranstrom> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hmf
10:45:32FromDiscord<srozb> thats correct
10:45:53FromDiscord<srozb> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hmg
10:46:04FromDiscord<hugogranstrom> In reply to @srozb "thats correct": Will investigate it, I have reproduced it
10:47:01FromDiscord<srozb> thanks!!
10:50:28FromDiscord<srozb> as I use nimib for aoc this year I would like to track this. Should I create an issue on GH or should I stick to html ?
10:51:03FromDiscord<sOkam!> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hmh
10:53:45FromDiscord<hugogranstrom> In reply to @srozb "as I use nimib": I think I know the reason now, we escape everything by default. So special symbols like `&` and `"` get escaped to `&amp;` and `&quot;`. This is needed for the HTML backend but perhaps not for the markdown one. I think it's worth opening an issue for so we can discuss and see if we can drop the escaping for markdown or if it's needed somewhere.
10:54:32FromDiscord<hugogranstrom> Do you need markdown for any specific reason? Otherwise I would recommend the HTML backend, it's what we are using most of the time.
10:54:56FromDiscord<srozb> no, I just wanted GH to render it in browser and html will require me to set up github pages, right?
10:55:40FromDiscord<srozb> have no preference beside that
10:55:52FromDiscord<hugogranstrom> In reply to @srozb "no, I just wanted": Ahh ok 👍 Yes indeed, GH pages is needed then
10:56:16FromDiscord<srozb> cool, I'll fallback to html then
10:56:22FromDiscord<hugogranstrom> It's not too hard to set up (just point it to your folder) but it becomes harder to find the pages as you don't have an index page
10:56:37FromDiscord<hugogranstrom> You can of course create an index page
10:56:50FromDiscord<srozb> yea, I've spent more time on creating index in nim that on first day task 😄
10:57:05FromDiscord<hugogranstrom> Haha 😄
10:57:27FromDiscord<srozb> thank you anyway, will create an issue and use html & gh pages
10:57:46FromDiscord<srozb> I just was sure that I did something wrong as this bug seemed too obvious
10:57:53FromDiscord<srozb> to be missed
10:58:33FromDiscord<hugogranstrom> In reply to @srozb "thank you anyway, will": You're welcome 🙂 You can always look at @pietroppeter's adventofcode source if you want inspiration for how you can lay it out: https://github.com/pietroppeter/adventofnim
10:59:18FromDiscord<srozb> In reply to @hugogranstrom.nim "You're welcome 🙂 You": sure, I've already seen that, thanks
11:06:08FromDiscord<pietroppeter> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/4hmn
11:08:23FromDiscord<pietroppeter> fix should be easy: put change this line to {{&code}} (adding &) and same for subsequent {{&output}} https://github.com/pietroppeter/nimib/blob/ad0e44beb926f8b1348ad3146dd1ec491e1da436/src/nimib/renders.nim#L70
11:08:35FromDiscord<pietroppeter> (edit) removed "put"
11:09:40FromDiscord<hugogranstrom> In reply to @pietroppeter "agree, it's a bug": Not yet, will see if I write some later on when the tasks get harder and require a bit more explaination.
11:09:52FromDiscord<pietroppeter> (we probably should add & also in partial for caption and url)
11:10:48FromDiscord<hugogranstrom> Would like to try out p5nim someday though so might steal your "thing" if I get a good enough idea 😜
11:11:08FromDiscord<hugogranstrom> In reply to @pietroppeter "(we probably should add": Yes that sounds reasonable 👍
11:12:02FromDiscord<pietroppeter> In reply to @hugogranstrom.nim "Would like to try": not my thing ;), DO steal it please 😄
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11:26:10FromDiscord<hugogranstrom> In reply to @pietroppeter "not my thing ;),": It definitely is B) I'll try and at least not copy exactly what you are doing 😛
12:12:26FromDiscord<srozb> https://github.com/pietroppeter/nimib/issues/159 @pietroppeter @hugogranstrom
12:18:00FromDiscord<sOkam!> Is there any debugger/tool that can create a list of symbols/functions/variables accessed from the start of an app, until a breakpoint or some other condition _(eg. like a list of symbols called from the start until the end of a game engine frame)_?↵Doesn't even need to be a graph, just a list of things that are called from point A to point B in text form
12:35:44FromDiscord<Clonkk> You can inspect symbol in memory using gdb stacktrace
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12:53:12FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @Clonkk "You can inspect symbol": the point is to get the whole entire engine in text form. that's not feasible manually, and not sure if the stacktrace even reaches that far back into the past
12:54:21FromDiscord<sOkam!> After some searching, and help in a C discord, I found this, which answers the question and gives an implementation✍️↵https://balau82.wordpress.com/2010/10/06/trace-and-profile-function-calls-with-gcc/
12:59:32FromDiscord<aolko (aolko)> fixed your terrible awesome list, https://github.com/aolko/rebel-nim
13:00:15FromDiscord<Yepoleb> In reply to @sOkam! "Is there any debugger/tool": callgrind might also be an option in some cases
13:00:41FromDiscord<Yepoleb> it creates a call graph, not a list
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13:44:34FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @aolko (aolko) "fixed your terrible awesome": Congratulations, good luck getting people on board
13:45:11FromDiscord<Require Support> is it possible to use chronos just for the httpclient 🤔 I want to disable all the async stuff. Doing this only to not have to deal with the openssl dll on stdlib
13:46:36FromDiscord<aolko (aolko)> > Congratulations, good luck getting people on board↵yup, screw you too
13:47:38FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @aolko (aolko) "> Congratulations, good luck": Who’s the sensitive one now?
13:47:43FromDiscord<Rika> 🙂
13:49:00FromDiscord<AlexandrosKap> In reply to @aolko (aolko) "fixed your terrible awesome": touch grass
13:49:25FromDiscord<aolko (aolko)> the one who uses good luck ironically of course↵(@Rika)
13:49:53FromDiscord<Rika> Haha, sure bud, not the one who’s fuming
13:49:58FromDiscord<Rika> Have a good one
13:53:38FromDiscord<aolko (aolko)> > touch grass↵eat some yellow snow
13:54:09FromDiscord<aolko (aolko)> > Haha, sure bud, not the one who’s fuming↵i have a good reason for that
14:00:24FromDiscord<synthels> hello fellow nim programmers
14:00:42FromDiscord<synthels> guys
14:00:44FromDiscord<synthels> please
14:00:50FromDiscord<synthels> i thought nim was cool
14:01:22FromDiscord<huantian> Nims cool but there’s always a few people who aren’t unfortunately
14:01:33FromDiscord<synthels> elaborate
14:02:28FromDiscord<huantian> Actually hold on what are you saying “I thought Nim was cool” in response to?
14:02:41FromDiscord<synthels> @AlexandrosKap told me that nim is cool
14:02:58FromDiscord<huantian> If you mean Nim is cool as a language I’d say it is cool
14:03:16FromDiscord<AlexandrosKap> He is a troll
14:03:22FromDiscord<synthels> ??
14:03:41FromDiscord<huantian> If you mean Nim is cool as in its community, it is cool, but aolko is trolling
14:04:24FromDiscord<synthels> thank you mr huantian
14:24:27FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> In reply to @AlexandrosKap "touch grass": Good advise, actually 😄
14:27:18FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> I mean, his Rebel Nim logo looks not that bad 😄
14:27:25FromDiscord<auxym> In reply to @Rika "Who’s the sensitive one": lol, the guy was butthurt enough to fork awesome nim with the only changes being an insult to the nim community, an offensive comment on trans people and a link to some shitty telegram 🙄 ↵↵that'll show em!
14:27:33FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Maybe he could do more of that stuff 🥳
14:28:30FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> In reply to @auxym "lol, the guy was": Yeah, I mean it was not even a transperson involved in the discussion with him, as far as I can tell.
14:28:47FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Idk, why he would come up with this
14:31:57FromDiscord<Dr. Theo> >.>
14:47:11FromDiscord<ringabout> In reply to @auxym "lol, the guy was": Yeah, I agree. <@&371760044473319454>
14:56:07FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Oh, that's nice
14:56:10FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> https://pmetras.gitlab.io/nim0/
14:56:26FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> So, Nim is fundamentally really so close to Oberon?
14:56:32FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> That's crazy.
14:58:26FromDiscord<ringabout> In reply to @ShalokShalom "So, Nim is fundamentally": Yeah, because Niklaus Wirth has written a nice compiler construction book => https://people.inf.ethz.ch/wirth/CompilerConstruction/CompilerConstruction1.pdf
14:58:36FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Nice nice
14:59:50FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> I thought Nim has some extras from Oberon, not that it is actually a superset
14:59:56FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> That's awesome! 🥳
15:00:10FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Did Wirth at any point say anything about Nim?
15:00:25FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Do we know, that he cares and even knows about it?
15:00:50FromDiscord<auxym> In reply to @ShalokShalom "https://pmetras.gitlab.io/nim0/": That's cool. I had read before that Oberon/Modula were large sources of inspiration for Araq.
15:10:07PMunchOkay, this kind of behaviour is obviously not allowed. Have to wait for a Gitter moderator though to get rid of them, so please just ignore them until that happens. I do agree that the logo looks cool though..
15:18:47PMunchApparently Gitter uses Matrix now, so I was able to ban them from there. Please carry on, nothing to see here
15:19:28NimEventerNew Nimble package! pipexp - Expression-based pipe operators with placeholder argument, see https://codeberg.org/emanresu3/nim-pipexp
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15:27:29FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> @PMunch the person had been on the server already years ago, with similar outcome
15:27:37FromDiscord<jmgomez> In reply to @ringabout "Yeah, because Niklaus Wirth": wow, this is great. Thanks for sharing it!
15:27:45FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> It was also banned from the Telegram and the Nimskull channel
15:30:11FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/4hnu
15:30:28FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Its very inspirational.
15:34:03FromDiscord<pmunch> Oh really? I wasn't aware. Got the feeling they had been in (and possibly banned from) our other channels
15:35:04FromDiscord<jmgomez> In reply to @ShalokShalom "Wirth had an interview": Ouch, will save it though. I think we are not far away from an AI that gets a video as input and outputs a translated version
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15:44:47FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Youtube has this since years
15:44:59FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> You could actually upload and see 🙂
15:46:03FromDiscord<jmgomez> I meant including audio 🙂
15:46:05FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> https://vocalmatic.com/blog/how-to-automatically-generate-subtitles-for-youtube/
15:46:13FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Ah, yeah that
15:46:42FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> I also have to admit, his German has a strong accent, so idk how easy it is to pick it up for YouTube
15:47:04FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> But it seems doable, when somebody does correct the failing parts.
15:50:50FromDiscord<undel> What are the best practices when (re)using `AsyncHttpClient`? I've noticed that (assuming due to HTTP `keep-alive`) that it hangs on to long-dead connections, and then when you make a request later, you get an exception because the socket was already closed.
16:16:07FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> https://youtu.be/-J3wNP6u5YU
16:23:03FromDiscord<ali> Can't check the socket?↵(@undel)
16:24:42FromDiscord<auxym> In reply to @ShalokShalom "https://youtu.be/-J3wNP6u5YU": I hate hungarian notation, but am really torn when implementing something like the USB spec for example (https://www.beyondlogic.org/usbnutshell/usb5.shtml). Should the struct member be named `bcdUSB` to conform to the spec (bcd as in binary coded decimal), or use a nice distinct type in nim and name the member `usbVersion` (which is what it actually is)
16:25:33FromDiscord<undel> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hnH
16:57:05FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @synthels "??": To provide a reference point:↵This is, within an entire year of this discord server, I believe the first true troll I've seen in this chat.↵There have been crypto spammers, but their lifetime on this servers is typically measured in seconds or minutes before they get got.↵So he is pretty much an exception from what I've seen
17:06:31FromDiscord<ali> Looks like asynchttpcliemt doesn't support timeout either that's annoying↵(@undel)
17:07:33NimEventerNew Nimble package! db_connector - Unified database connector., see https://github.com/nim-lang/db_connector
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17:29:33PMunchSo, anyone up for a Nim Advent of Code stream?
17:30:03FromDiscord<rakgew> yay!! I was about to ask! \:-D
17:30:25PMunchJust getting the stream set up now :)
17:31:04FromDiscord<rakgew> over on twitch right?
17:31:37PMunchYup, Twitch and YouTube, as usual
17:32:16FromDiscord<rakgew> looking forward!
17:36:26FromDiscord<jmgomez> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hnX
17:40:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> use `switch` instead
17:40:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `switch("define", $bleh)` should work
17:40:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> or `switch("pluginDir", $bleh)` in this case, always forget
17:43:04FromDiscord<jmgomez> tried it but it doesnt work neither with switch, on the later it tries to convert it to --pluginDir
17:43:13FromDiscord<jmgomez> the first one is missing the value
17:44:54FromDiscord<jmgomez> in the sources is just a builtin so not sure where the impl is
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17:45:47FromDiscord<ringabout> > `defined` now accepts identifiers separated by dots, i.e. `defined(a.b.c)`.↵> In the command line, this is defined as `-d:a.b.c`.↵I'm not sure.
17:46:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I dont really see the benefit
17:47:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's the same as "Please prefix all module defines with a unique name"
17:49:11FromDiscord<jmgomez> so there is no other way to pass the value right? I guess I will change the approach then
17:49:36PMunchHmm, YouTube seems to be giving me some trouble
17:49:43PMunchBut I'm live on Twitch at least: https://www.twitch.tv/pmunche
17:49:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Switch should work jmgomez iirc
17:51:04FromDiscord<jmgomez> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4ho8
17:51:28prowe are here PMunch
17:51:54proyou look good :)
17:52:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> try `define:pluginDir` dont recall
17:52:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Jeez guy's just fishing for compliments i see! 😛
17:53:48FromDiscord<jmgomez> Same deal, I will switch the approach. Not a big deal in my case. Thanks anyways!
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18:05:35FromDiscord<sOkam!> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hoe
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18:07:53FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> In reply to @auxym "I hate hungarian notation,": Maybe abstracting it in a way, so that both is done 😛
18:09:20FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @auxym "I hate hungarian notation,": The hell does "bcdUsb" even mean
18:09:36FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> USB 3 spec is pretty crazy
18:09:44FromDiscord<Phil> Oh I have seen how absolutely insane it is
18:09:51FromDiscord<Phil> There is multiple LTT rants of it out there
18:09:57FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> I followed a pretty tech savy programmer on Twitter implementing it
18:10:00FromDiscord<Phil> And USB 4 is gearing up to be even more insane
18:10:10FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> And seeing its sanity coming down
18:16:25NimEventerNew thread by TKD: Built-in (whole) array programming in Nim v2 or even sooner for scientific computing, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/9682
18:17:22prowe are still live
18:17:26pro:)
18:21:48FromDiscord<hotdog> In reply to @PMunch "But I'm live on": Oh no the comments 😂
18:22:02FromDiscord<hotdog> PMunch are you being cyberbullied https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1047940654132637806/image.png
18:23:19FromDiscord<auxym> checks out for twitch commenters
18:24:31FromDiscord<Require Support> so if i build a binary with nim, even i supply `--stackTraceMsgs:off ` I still manage to get message pop ups / error info if the app crashes. How do i make it so it "silently" crashes
18:30:40FromDiscord<hotdog> In reply to @Require Support "so if i build": What OS and what does the popup look like?
18:30:49FromDiscord<Require Support> windows, messagebox
18:31:15FromDiscord<Require Support> popup contains the line number + file of the error
18:31:29FromDiscord<Require Support> built with `--app:gui`
18:34:37FromDiscord<hotdog> I'm not as familiar with Windows. Does this still happen with -d:release?
18:35:00FromDiscord<Require Support> yes
18:35:23FromDiscord<Require Support> actually I was doing `-d:danger` not sure if that's different but ill keep testing
18:38:44FromDiscord<hotdog> In reply to @Require Support "actually I was doing": Can you try `--stackTrace:off` ?
18:47:54PMunch@hotdog, weird to be sexualised on a programming stream. But to each their own.. Maybe if I get a thousand viewers I'll take my shirt off :P
18:48:12FromDiscord<Yepoleb> In reply to @hotdog "PMunch are you being": How's this bullying?
18:49:25PMunchWell it could be considered harassment, which could be considered a form of bullying
18:49:28prois the stream done?
18:49:33PMunchYup
18:49:38proI was watching the first half
18:49:45prowhen you were technical :P
18:49:57PMunchTechnical?
18:50:17FromDiscord<Phil> I'm fairly sure this was just meant in jest
18:50:32FromDiscord<Phil> One could say that hotdog can be quite a
18:50:33FromDiscord<Phil> jester
18:50:45proyeah it was perfect first half
18:50:50probefore spammer
18:50:55proyou lost your focus when spammer hit
18:51:00PMunchOh :P
18:51:13proand then misscoded the 2nd part, I saw it, and was like mmmmmmmm
18:51:14PMunchAh right, I went off trying to remove the message..
18:51:14FromDiscord<Phil> Did PMunch get stunlocked by twitch chat?
18:51:18FromDiscord<Phil> Happens more often than you think
18:51:49PMunchIt's surprisingly hard to think of a solution while trying to say something useful
18:51:57proI have to do some work, will tune in tomorrow :D
18:52:14proalso if you didn't already hear, you look handsome :)
18:53:33PMunchHaha, thank you
18:54:01pronight guys
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18:55:00FromDiscord<hotdog> In reply to @PMunch "<@472459996068839424>, weird to be": Perhaps there is an untapped niche for nude programming streams
18:55:19PMunchHaha, I imagine there might be
18:55:26PMunchBut it's probably untapped for a reason
18:55:40FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @hotdog "Perhaps there is an": One that lets you participate in a "get banned"-speedrun
18:55:44FromDiscord<Yepoleb> I have thought he's hot before lewd twitch comments
18:55:58FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @Yepoleb "I have thought he's": Oh no, a hipster!
18:56:08FromDiscord<hotdog> I wonder if that person goes on hot tub streams and says "you look smart, can you solve a leetcode problem on stream pls <3"
18:56:13FromDiscord<Yepoleb> No i don't mean it that way
18:56:31FromDiscord<hotdog> In reply to @Yepoleb "How's this bullying?": Yeah I'm just messing around
18:57:41FromDiscord<Yepoleb> I wonder if there are femboy programming streams
18:57:53FromDiscord<Phil> 1000%
18:58:05FromDiscord<Phil> I don't know of them yet, but I am sure they exist
18:58:11FromDiscord<Phil> There is this programming socks meme for a reasonn
18:58:13FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "reasonn" => "reason"
18:58:21FromDiscord<hotdog> In reply to @Isofruit "I don't know of": Good cover 😉
18:58:31PMunchI don't know what programming socks means, and I'm too afraid to ask..
18:59:22FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @PMunch "I don't know what": Its actually nothing bad, one sec
18:59:38FromDiscord<Phil> https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/programming-socks
19:00:50FromDiscord<hotdog> You could get some black and yellow ones for your nim streams PMunch
19:01:13PMunchHaha, I'd have to seriously fiddle with my camera angles to get socks on camera..
19:02:11FromDiscord<Yepoleb> In reply to @Isofruit "I don't know of": i couldn't find any
19:03:48FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @Yepoleb "i couldn't find any": I would try to find any, but I legitimately find twitch's search UI repulsive
19:04:02FromDiscord<Yepoleb> oh, i used google
19:06:02FromDiscord<Phil> https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3007807/meet-chinas-fabulous-cross-dressing-computer-coders
19:07:02FromDiscord<Phil> No streamers to find anywhere, huh
19:07:12FromDiscord<Phil> Eh, not willing to invest more than 5 minutes into this
19:32:49FromDiscord<kaddkaka> https://discord.com/channels/371759389889003530/913821909836255263/1047956739749838888
19:38:23FromDiscord<guttural666> SOA abstraction layers should be relatively easy to do in Nim, anybody got experience with stuff like that?
19:39:47FromDiscord<guttural666> I fear lookup by a string name field for my string riddled sequence of objects will perform like dog poop
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19:45:16FromDiscord<hotdog> In reply to @guttural666 "SOA abstraction layers should": https://nimble.directory/pkg/aossoa
19:45:27FromDiscord<hotdog> Haven't used it, but maybe something to check out
19:46:19FromDiscord<guttural666> In reply to @hotdog "https://nimble.directory/pkg/aossoa": amazing, that's what I've hoped for, thanks!!
19:52:20FromDiscord<zingstrok> Hi, how i can echo the First Character of a String ??
19:52:32FromDiscord<guttural666> echo str[0]
19:52:37FromDiscord<zingstrok> thx
20:01:18FromDiscord<guttural666> are declared booleans default initialized to false? or any other types such as int for that matter?
20:01:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> All types are 0 initialised so bools are false yes
20:01:53FromDiscord<guttural666> brilliant
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20:25:44NimEventerNew Nimble package! rwlocks - Readers-writer (MRSW) lock, see https://github.com/tdely/nim-rwlocks
20:25:44NimEventerNew Nimble package! punycode - Implements a representation of Unicode with the limited ASCII character subset in Nim., see https://github.com/nim-lang/punycode
20:27:12FromDiscord<guttural666> stupid how powerful templates alone are, can't get over the fact that a three line template is just able to make 50 lines of c++ obsolete, absolute clown world
20:27:20FromDiscord<guttural666> I'm mad actually
20:27:59FromDiscord<voidwalker> we should open a nim porn channel on porntube
20:28:06FromDiscord<guttural666> hahaha
20:30:05FromDiscord<guttural666> writing this blew my mind couple days ago https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1047972877623902208/image.png
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20:31:41FromDiscord<guttural666> populate object fields with comma seperated values of a user input
20:34:28FromDiscord<guttural666> may be buggy haha
20:43:57FromDiscord<voidwalker> So I need to send over a socket various uint16, 32, 64, in big endian order, + some byte sequence. Is there some socket library that allows sending other types than string maybe ? I didn't find much in alternative sockets libs for nim. Or how else would I write this cleanly. Currently I have this mess:
20:44:40FromDiscord<hmmm> boiz how do I check if a string has at least 2 lines?
20:44:57FromDiscord<hmmm> if s.splitlines.len >1 failed me
20:44:58FromDiscord<voidwalker> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hp0
20:45:12FromDiscord<voidwalker> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hp0" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hp1"
20:46:30FromDiscord<hmmm> oh I'm a bozo, it works now 😃
20:57:13FromDiscord<voidwalker> hmm seems sendto has a variant which takes a pointer to the data, maybe that is more suitable
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21:32:46pbotfullertonQuick question, if I want to be able to modify the elements in a table after insertion, I need to use a TableRef?
21:33:08pbotfullertonI'm inserting objects into this table if it changes anything
21:33:52FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No you can use `Table`
21:34:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Just make sure you declare it as a `var` and if it's a procedure pass it as `var`
21:35:20pbotfullertonThank you
21:35:45pbotfullertonAlso applies to tables of tables?
21:35:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Of course
21:36:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You only should use ref types if you want the semantics of a reference(heap allocated pointer managed by GC), not for mutability reasons
21:37:49pbotfullertonOK, thank you. Does that mean that unless specifically created as a ref, objects will be created on the stack and so will tables, seqs, etc?
21:38:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The data will be heap allocated since they're dynamic and have to be heap allocated, but yes the object portion will be stack allocated
21:38:56FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Sequences and strings have value semantics so copy on assignment instead of point to the same collection
21:40:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> \copy on assignment depends on whether you're using Arc/Orc and if a move can be made but that's a detail for now
21:42:20pbotfullertonSo for example seq.add(whatever) will copy the temporary stack-allocated object (I'm assuming I'm doing this in a loop) into the heap into the seq's internal storage and so will the table
21:42:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yep
21:43:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Due to the dynamic nature of them they have to be heap allocated but still have value semantics
21:43:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Unlike C# or other languages with classes for Dictionary or List you get a copy on assignment though
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21:51:15FromDiscord<pietroppeter> In reply to @hugogranstrom.nim "It definitely is B)": you can try and replicate with p5nim this other nice visualization: https://www.reddit.com/r/adventofcode/comments/z9kk1m/2022_day_1_adding_up_the_calories/
21:54:15FromDiscord<voidwalker> In reply to @voidwalker "So I need to": @ElegantBeef Mind taking a look at this ? How would you do it. I am currently trying to rewrite it as a seq of bytes (array would be better, but how do you concatenate array of bytes without writing your own proc?). like ` let anMsgB = cast[seq[uint8]](repConId) & ...` what do you think ?
21:54:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'd make my own proc
21:55:35FromDiscord<hugogranstrom> In reply to @pietroppeter "you can try and": Wow, took a moment before I realized what even is happening there 😮
21:55:55FromDiscord<voidwalker> uint64 can be cast to seq[uint8] ?
21:57:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No
21:58:01FromDiscord<Yepoleb> no, only array[8, uint8]
21:58:29FromDiscord<hugogranstrom> In reply to @pietroppeter "you can try and": I will give it a try tomorrow though 👍
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22:01:45pbotfullertonThanks for the explanation
22:02:09FromDiscord<Yepoleb> @voidwalker use a StringStream and write[T] to serialize arbitrary types
22:02:27FromDiscord<Yepoleb> i think that's what you want
22:02:35FromDiscord<voidwalker> Write[T] ?
22:02:46FromDiscord<Yepoleb> https://nim-lang.org/docs/streams.html#write%2CStream%2CT
22:04:16FromDiscord<voidwalker> Hmm this looks promising indeed. I have no ideea what I want, but the code to be simple, elegant, and as efficient as possible : P
22:06:18FromDiscord<Yepoleb> i just noticed you wrote a more detailed description of what you want to do earlier
22:07:21FromDiscord<voidwalker> Yeah, reached the UDP tracker implementation in my toy bittorrent project, and realized the way I set up data to send over socket is not elegant at all : (
22:10:10FromDiscord<Yepoleb> for each message create a StringStream and at the end get the final message string from the stream and send it using the socket functions
22:10:37FromDiscord<voidwalker> yep, that part was obvious
22:11:02FromDiscord<voidwalker> I wonder why write[T] is not available for normal strings ?
22:12:04FromDiscord<Yepoleb> if you need to do endian conversion you can either make a generic write wrapper that uses sizeof to determine the right swapping offsets or just implement it for all int types you use
22:13:23FromDiscord<voidwalker> I found another useful unit in the "stew" module, from the status people, that has endian conversion as a function
22:13:37FromDiscord<Yepoleb> In reply to @voidwalker "I wonder why write[T]": probably to prevent accidentally writing binary data to text strings
22:14:03FromDiscord<Require Support> anyone try weave on windows ?
22:20:50FromDiscord<Gumbercules> not anytime recently
22:22:01FromDiscord<Gumbercules> I never was able to successfully get weave integrated in any of my projects - I ended up writing my own fiber based job system
22:22:16FromDiscord<Gumbercules> although you could probably accomplish something similar with closure iterators / continuations (using cps)
22:22:40FromDiscord<Gumbercules> although I lack the nice abstractions of `parallel for` etc... that weave provides
22:23:35FromDiscord<Gumbercules> I will probably eventually write a C API for - https://github.com/GameTechDev/GTS-GamesTaskScheduler - and wrap that
22:36:37FromDiscord<hmmm> hey what was the trick to make " " work inside fmt"blabla {a.proc("x")} "
22:37:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> three quotes
22:37:14FromDiscord<hmmm> triple quotes doesn't seem to do it
22:37:15FromDiscord<hmmm> nunu
22:37:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Probably cannot then
22:37:49FromDiscord<hmmm> fmt always find a way to not work for me and I need to resort to the &
22:39:28FromDiscord<voidwalker> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hpy
22:39:58FromDiscord<voidwalker> looks reasonably clean @Yepoleb . You think a template can be written to take various data types and pass them to hello.write as arg ?
22:40:11FromDiscord<voidwalker> Or maybe something like that already exists
22:42:17FromDiscord<Yepoleb> In reply to @voidwalker "looks reasonably clean <@144300201857777664>": i don't understand what you want that write does not already do
22:42:36FromDiscord<voidwalker> I want to turn the 3 calls to hello.write() to a single line
22:43:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> void walker hates multi line code cause they're deranged
22:43:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Or atleast the latter part is what i tell myself
22:44:04FromDiscord<Yepoleb> honestly i wouldn't 😕
22:44:06FromDiscord<voidwalker> well, in this case, the 3 data ints are all part of the same message, so logically they belong together
22:46:30FromDiscord<Yepoleb> and i am not good with templates, i'm actually still just a python, c++ programmer in disguise
22:57:23FromDiscord<voidwalker> but beef is .. ? aren't you beef
22:57:54FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Sure but i try not to encourage inanity
22:58:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Like you could do `hello.write (swapBytes ..., 0u32, trid)` but meh that's noisey
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23:04:39FromDiscord<voidwalker> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hpD
23:06:50FromDiscord<Yepoleb> besides the inconsistent usage of swapbytes that's fine
23:07:09FromDiscord<voidwalker> well, no reason to swap bytes of a random number, or of a null value
23:07:54FromDiscord<Yepoleb> it shouldn't have to be called explicitly
23:08:15FromDiscord<Yepoleb> because you will forget about it and search forever
23:08:45FromDiscord<voidwalker> not sure what you mean ?
23:09:47FromDiscord<Yepoleb> swapBytes should automatically called for any integer, so you can't forget about it and you do that by wrapping it in a proc
23:09:56FromDiscord<Yepoleb> (edit) "it" => "it,"
23:10:10FromDiscord<Yepoleb> (edit) "swapBytes should automatically called for any integer, so you can't forget about it, and you do that by wrapping it ... in" added "and the write call"
23:12:19FromDiscord<voidwalker> waste of picojoules : p
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23:14:49FromDiscord<Rika> What about the joules you spend thinking
23:15:53FromDiscord<voidwalker> I don't think that much
23:16:14FromDiscord<auxym> eat moar junk food, at east thats what i do
23:17:59FromDiscord<guttural666> roast my WIP noob nim code: https://gitlab.com/hansdampfinger666/medl
23:18:00FromDiscord<Yepoleb> In reply to @voidwalker "waste of picojoules :": it will get compile time optimized anyway when it's unnecessary
23:18:27FromDiscord<guttural666> main + api is the meat of it
23:20:12FromDiscord<auxym> also swapbytes is not portable, if you're on a BE machine then you dont want to swap
23:20:22FromDiscord<Yepoleb> In reply to @guttural666 "roast my WIP noob": what a goofy name lol
23:20:44FromDiscord<auxym> of course, BE is so rare as to be almost irrelevant these days
23:20:53FromDiscord<guttural666> In reply to @Yepoleb "what a goofy name": i dunno, I think the stupider the better haha
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23:21:07FromDiscord<guttural666> In reply to @Yepoleb "what a goofy name": first brain fart that enters my mind, that's my working title haha
23:22:53FromDiscord<Yepoleb> In reply to @auxym "of course, BE is": my parents 10 year old modem runs big endian mips
23:23:36FromDiscord<Yepoleb> that's the first and only time i saw it in the wild
23:23:54FromDiscord<auxym> there. want to run @voidwalker 's torrent lib on it? 😉
23:24:06FromDiscord<guttural666> In reply to @Yepoleb "what a goofy name": and it's kind of a meme in German, so I like it ^^
23:25:02FromDiscord<Yepoleb> i know the meme, meddl leude
23:26:23FromDiscord<guttural666> In reply to @Yepoleb "i know the meme,": that's it hahaha
23:26:48FromDiscord<Yepoleb> In reply to @auxym "there. want to run": definitely
23:28:03FromDiscord<voidwalker> hm indeed, technically I am not doing the right portable thing there : (
23:29:49FromDiscord<Yepoleb> https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/version-1-6/lib/pure/endians.nim
23:30:08FromDiscord<Yepoleb> here's how to do it properly
23:30:42FromDiscord<Yepoleb> you could also use that directly, it's in the stdlib
23:33:15noeontheendI'm trying to add a nimble task, but would like to call some functions from the standard library/my own modules. Is it possible to import those to use in the task?
23:34:03FromDiscord<Yepoleb> have you tried if it just works?
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23:40:54FromDiscord<auxym> In reply to @voidwalker "hm indeed, technically I": https://justine.lol/endian.html
23:42:14FromDiscord<auxym> In reply to @noeontheend "I'm trying to add": most things should work, except anything that uses C FFI (eg re, sqlite, ssl stuff) because nimble tasks are executed in the nim vm
23:42:39FromDiscord<auxym> see docs here: https://nim-lang.org/docs/nims.html
23:56:20FromDiscord<Tuatarian> can someone explain what's happening here?
23:56:28FromDiscord<Tuatarian> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4hpL
23:56:36FromDiscord<Tuatarian> outputs `Sym "s"`
23:58:05FromDiscord<Rika> You’re passing s, yes
23:58:30FromDiscord<Rika> The value isn’t transmitted since it’s a macro, runtime vs compile time
23:58:38FromDiscord<Tuatarian> oh I see
23:59:18FromDiscord<Tuatarian> so how would I try to do the thing that I'm trying to do?
23:59:27FromDiscord<Tuatarian> is it possible if s is not known at comptime?
23:59:33FromDiscord<Rika> Do what?
23:59:42FromDiscord<Tuatarian> pass the value of s instead of just the symbol s
23:59:52FromDiscord<Rika> Required to be known on compile time