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00:20:03FromDiscord<leorize> a simple example of cyclic reference is a doubly linked list
01:15:49FromDiscord<4zv4l> what if you set the two pointers to null before "removing" the node form the list ?↵it would still leak ?
01:16:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> If you manually manage memory of course not
01:16:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Arc requires you to manage your own cycles
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03:20:51FromDiscord<demotomohiro> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/dZmGRcIeXeNe
03:35:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> @demotomohiro should probably mention `{.global.}`
03:35:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> also typo `echo "Destory ", x.name`
03:39:15FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Thank you! I will mention about it and fix the typo.
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05:52:02FromDiscord<demotomohiro> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=FEpUncTgaKYn
05:52:32FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Do I need to use macros?
05:53:51FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You can use a template
05:53:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well likely
05:57:06FromDiscord<demotomohiro> How can template be used to solve this problem?
05:59:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=FIAOuGdzYrxd
06:01:33FromDiscord<demotomohiro> It compiled and worked!↵Thank you!
06:08:04FromDiscord<leorize> you can also just wrap the expression in parentheses
06:08:11FromDiscord<leorize> but a template is cleaner
06:16:05FromDiscord<demotomohiro> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=laqMAMwVFyxb
06:17:00FromDiscord<leorize> looks like a sem issue
06:17:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I swear this should've been fixed at some point by me
06:17:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Might've been tangental
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08:20:58FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Would using an NBT encoder/decoder in C to be used as a test suite for my encoder/decoder be a smart idea?
08:21:20FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Since that way I can compare a working/complete implementation against my own written in pure Nim?
08:25:13FromDiscord<nnsee> i don't see why not - that's how a lot of projects do it (for example the rust coreutils project uses the gnu test suite to check for compatibility)
08:26:12FromDiscord<demotomohiro> I don't know about NBT, but I think comparing output from existing working implementation sounds good idea.
08:26:38FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Oh good to know then
08:26:53FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Right now trying to figure out what a tag's ID is encoded as :p
08:27:35FromDiscord<nnsee> depends on the version
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08:27:49FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I mean the size of it
08:27:55FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Like, is it just an int?
08:28:00FromDiscord<nnsee> since 1.8 it's a string, before it's a short
08:28:03FromDiscord<nnsee> a short
08:28:17FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Wait wdym by 1.8 it's a string?
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08:28:57FromDiscord<nnsee> https://wiki.vg/NBT#Specification
08:29:18FromDiscord<nnsee> ignore that i'm full of shit
08:29:27FromDiscord<nnsee> haven't had any coffee yet
08:30:41FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Lol fair
08:31:27FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> It doesn't say what the type id is stored as :p
08:31:37FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I'm assuming it's just stored as an unsigned byte I hope
08:32:19FromDiscord<nnsee> what do you mean by type id
08:32:42FromDiscord<nnsee> it's always a single byte
08:32:59FromDiscord<nnsee> see the examples
08:33:00FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Okay good to know, it wasn't clear by the spec-
08:33:16FromDiscord<nnsee> https://wiki.vg/NBT#test.nbt
08:33:57FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Wasn't clear to an overthinker like me :P
08:34:12FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I should switch off half my brain, I'd function better xD
08:35:34FromDiscord<griffith1deadly> the main thing is to disallow very large recursion in the decoder 🙂↵in my time tileentity with large nbt was abused in this way for crashes
08:37:25FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Ah, how would I stop large recursion though... Just a number to increment during encoding?
08:37:36FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> And if it's over a set limit, terminate?
08:37:44FromDiscord<griffith1deadly> yep, like vanilla decoder
08:37:52FromDiscord<griffith1deadly> just throw exception
08:37:55FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> What's the limit for the vanilla decoder?
08:38:03FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @griffith1deadly "just throw exception": I prefer result types :P
08:38:17FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> An exception would also be fine here tho tbf
08:38:21FromDiscord<griffith1deadly> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "What's the limit for": as i know for 1.7.10 it's 1024
08:38:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Same difference
08:38:50FromDiscord<griffith1deadly> but some guys make nbt with 1024765 recursions
08:38:58FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Oh wow
08:39:49FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Hm... Is it cleaner to use a loop or cleaner to use function recursion...
08:40:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> For loops are better
08:40:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Atleast in Nim land
08:40:36FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> A for loop seems unsuitable here since I don't know all the nodes that are gonna be traversed
08:40:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Recursion grows the stack is likely slower and will almost certainly stack overflow if you dun goof
08:40:58FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Fair
08:41:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Wait until you learn iterative tree traversal
08:41:03FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> A while loop it is
08:41:10FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Iterative tree traversal?
08:41:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yes instead of recursive tree traversal
08:42:23FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Is iterative just a loop instead of recursive calls?
08:42:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yes
08:43:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You make a queue and set, pop off the queue as you go checking if an element has been visited using the set or a flag somewhere
08:43:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Depending if you use FIFO or FILO you also can get depth first or breadth first searching
08:44:19FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> So would that mean I'd first use a while loop to get a list of all the nodes with untouched raw data, and then I'd use a for loop to iterate through the raw nodes to deserialised nodes?
08:46:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=GlBVYESVkJta
08:46:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There we go we have FILO so depth first if my brain wroks right now
08:46:12FromDiscord<whisperecean> Is there a library that supports configuration from file+env var? So like I have a config file but if the field is not populated it takes the value fron env var
08:47:01FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=rdafnALRGAAm
08:47:25FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> @whisperecean https://github.com/euantorano/dotenv.nim
08:47:36FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @whisperecean "Is there a library": https://github.com/euantorano/dotenv.nim
08:47:38FromDiscord<nnsee> damn it beef
08:47:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Sucks to suck
08:48:09FromDiscord<nnsee> do you want me to have beef with you?
08:48:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> If you're as strong as you think you are clever, no
08:48:52FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> If you're as strong as you really are clever, let's gooooo
08:49:58FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Daaamn, this bouta get ugly
08:50:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Only if you write it that way
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08:51:31FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @Elegantbeef "If you're as strong": 🥲 why do you hurt the ones you love
08:51:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Who are you again?
08:52:47FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Daaaamn
08:52:53FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Cold shoulder
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08:56:50FromDiscord<whisperecean> So i added it to myproj.nimble
08:56:54FromDiscord<whisperecean> and did nimble install
08:56:59FromDiscord<whisperecean> BUT MY PROJECT DOES NOT SEE IT
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09:07:23FromDiscord<whisperecean> What am I doing wrong?
09:09:25FromDiscord<antoniguess> Anyone here has experience with netty?
09:12:36FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @whisperecean "What am I doing": impossible to say if you haven't posted your code
09:13:09FromDiscord<whisperecean> What should I paste? I literally just have requires "dotenv >= 2.0.0" in my nimble file and import dotenv in my main file.
09:13:11FromDiscord<whisperecean> And it does not see it.
09:13:30FromDiscord<whisperecean> cannot open file: dotenvnim(nimsuggest chk)
09:13:33FromDiscord<whisperecean> wth...
09:14:05FromDiscord<nnsee> does the compiler give you that error? or nimsuggest?
09:14:55FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @whisperecean "cannot open file: dotenvnim(nimsuggest": Oh, restart VSC, i believe this is a known issue, but whenever you install something, Nimsuggest doesn't notice it
09:15:04FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> It's pretty odd but yeah
09:15:09FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I've had this issue countless times
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09:20:06FromDiscord<whisperecean> yeah that was it...thanks
09:21:23FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Np aha
09:29:52FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> > Every NBT file will always implicitly be inside a tag compound, and also begin with a TAG_Compound (except in Bedrock edition, see below)↵Does that mean that if the first type is not a tag compound, it should be treated as if it's implicitly within one?
09:29:57FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Not sure how to interpret it
09:31:39FromDiscord<nnsee> not if, always
09:31:53FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Oh
09:32:04FromDiscord<nnsee> yes, this means you will have two compounds from the root level in most cases
09:32:17FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> ...why? What would the first compound even be named
09:32:19FromDiscord<nnsee> when serializing, do not serialize the outer ocmpound
09:32:23FromDiscord<nnsee> in pratcice it does not matter
09:33:00FromDiscord<nnsee> only the behaviour matters
09:33:06FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> That's so unnecessary-
09:33:10FromDiscord<nnsee> ie, everything on the root level should act as if it was nested inside a compound tag
09:33:28FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Also wouldn't this cause issues when users define their own NBT data?-
09:33:37FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> But oh well, can't argue with the spec
09:36:55FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "Also wouldn't this cause": not sure what you mean by this
09:37:37FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> You know how people can make `JsonNode`s themselves via stuff like `newJString` and such?
09:37:47FromDiscord<nnsee> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=RGqgbbahOIqh
09:37:50FromDiscord<nnsee> how do you parse this file?
09:38:03FromDiscord<nnsee> do you terminate at the end of the first compound and ignore the second one?
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09:38:15FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @nnsee "well, i'd argue no.": Aaah you know what, that is necessary, ignore me then
09:41:59FromDiscord<nnsee> although seeing nbts like this in the wild is rare as far as i've seen
09:42:06FromDiscord<antoniguess> Does anyone here have experience with netty?
09:42:37FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @antoniguess "Does anyone here have": https://dontasktoask.com/
09:43:40FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @nnsee "although seeing nbts like": Yeah fair enough, still will implement it though
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10:14:01FromDiscord<whisperecean> i have a problem with the dotenv that I dont get the variable available
10:14:11FromDiscord<whisperecean> Could it be that .env is not loaded?
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10:30:47FromDiscord<griffith1deadly> In reply to @antoniguess "Does anyone here have": netty for java or netty for nim
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10:43:28FromDiscord<nnsee> considering the server we're in...
10:44:37FromDiscord<whisperecean> ah nvm i was using it wrong
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11:33:35FromDiscord<antoniguess> In reply to @griffith1deadly "netty for java or": The nim one↵Asking because I need help with something↵More details in #gamedev
11:40:21FromDiscord<zumi.dxy> managed to sneak a little Nim into my day job :)↵I needed to test a C function using test cases written as a text file for some reason↵the extremely smooth FFI really helped here, and debugging is pretty straightforward as well
11:40:35FromDiscord<zumi.dxy> the little things to maintain sanity...
11:45:10FromDiscord<nnsee> it's the little wins
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11:58:31FromDiscord<whisperecean> Hmm is 4 spaces standard indentation for the default Nim plugin?
11:58:52FromDiscord<nnsee> i think it uses whatever your editor's default is
11:59:24FromDiscord<whisperecean> I dont get this in dotenv...Variables do not need to be defined before usage.
11:59:54FromDiscord<whisperecean> but I cannot just use the variable from the .env can I?
11:59:58FromDiscord<whisperecean> I have to getEnv it first?
12:00:59FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=qkvqQDJkpZav
12:01:40FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=DpwFoksPgAMB
12:04:03FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @whisperecean "I dont get this": dotenv simply loads the variables into the running processes' environment
12:04:14FromDiscord<nnsee> you have to `getEnv` on them to actually get their values, just like a regular environment variable
12:04:25FromDiscord<nnsee> if it's not set, an empty string is returned
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12:06:51FromDiscord<nnsee> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=tqKvgduBQcUp
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12:44:16FromDiscord<nnsee> from the manual...↵> The nim executable processes configuration files in the following directories (in this order; later files overwrite previous settings):↵> ↵> `$nim/config/nim.cfg`, `/etc/nim/nim.cfg` (UNIX)
12:44:18FromDiscord<nnsee> well that was a fucking lie
12:44:25FromDiscord<nnsee> /etc/nim/nim.cfg is entirely ignored
12:44:43FromDiscord<nnsee> started working once i moved the same config file to `/root/.config/nim/nim.cfg`
12:45:11FromDiscord<odexine> i assume the /etc/ one is only read when installed globally?
12:45:25FromDiscord<nnsee> hrm, maybe
12:46:29FromDiscord<nnsee> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=cSjpkyKaGoDM
12:47:01FromDiscord<nnsee> no reason it wouldn't, really, but still
12:55:52FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Should I use option types... Probably a good idea
12:56:34FromDiscord<odexine> what compelled you to question whether you should or not
12:56:58FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> For the compound tag in NBT, for 1.20.2 onwards, the name is optional in the network API
12:57:27FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> So it'd probably make it sliiiightly nicer? But you could just pass an empty string instead of an option type, and it'd have the same effect
12:57:37FromDiscord<odexine> id say to model the different versions with different types
12:57:37FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> (edit) "optional" => "omitted"
12:58:00FromDiscord<odexine> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "So it'd probably make": or that, sure, if it can never be empty otherwise
12:58:01FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Different types? Why? They're still the same type with the same underlying structure otherwise
12:58:24FromDiscord<odexine> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "Different types? Why? They're": well theyre different versions of the same type, so does that mean theyre the same? depends on ones take on it
12:58:36FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @odexine "or that, sure, if": It can be empty, but for 1.20.2 the size of the string + the string itself is omitted
12:58:53FromDiscord<odexine> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "It can be empty,": how do you distinguish an empty name then?
12:58:54FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @odexine "well theyre different versions": They have the same ID so... Yes probably?
12:59:17FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @odexine "how do you distinguish": You have to know what MC version you're using and what format you want, I'm just letting the user pass a `networkFormat` boolean
13:03:03FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I think I'll just use an empty string for simplicity
13:03:38FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Might also have a warning saying that the name will be omitted if it's not empty when sending via the network format
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13:36:39FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Do I need the recursion limit if I'm not calling functions recursively? I'd assume no?
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13:45:31FromDiscord<odexine> What do you mean “need”?
13:47:14FromDiscord<whisperecean> Does anybody know how to get a result with Norm when a table field is uuid?
13:47:31FromDiscord<whisperecean> I am getting this: Error: unhandled exception: field 's' is not accessible for type 'DbValue' using 'kind = dvkOther' [FieldDefect]
13:48:34FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @odexine "What do you mean": Need as in to prevent a malicious client from sending a large NBT file to cause a stack overflow
13:49:14FromDiscord<odexine> You should still protect against such as you could have a DoS attack instead
13:51:42FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Yeah that's fair, I'll do that then
13:55:17FromDiscord<demotomohiro> In reply to @hamidb80 "hey I wanna work": Please read stdlib document:↵https://nim-lang.org/docs/osproc.html#peekableOutputStream%2CProcess
13:56:25FromDiscord<whisperecean> I'd like to define it as custom datatype like here: https://norm.nim.town/customDatatypes.html
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14:09:10FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Oh god the code is spaghetti already and I haven't even handled the various NBT formats yet for bedrock and varint nbt
14:09:52FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Okay, first I'm gonna implement big endian NBT parsing
14:10:03FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Then once I have something working, I'll restructure the code
14:10:27FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> And only then will I implement the little endian and varint formats
14:15:36FromDiscord<whisperecean> How can I do something like this: proc to(dbVal: DbValue, T: typedesc[UUID]): T = UUID(dbVal.s)
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14:20:40FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @whisperecean "How can I do": What is UUID?
14:22:07PMunchLike in general?
14:22:11FromDiscord<Phil> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/UYATHRnJPzGT
14:22:17FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @PMunch "Like in general?": Nah, the specific implementation
14:22:25PMunchAh :P
14:22:40PMunchI thought it was weird that you didn't know what a UUID was :P
14:22:42FromDiscord<Phil> Could be a string alias, distinct string, some custom object type or more
14:22:44FromDiscord<whisperecean> Ah I just want it to be string i guess
14:22:59FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @whisperecean "Ah I just want": As in, UUID is a string-type or is that a custom type of yours?
14:23:28FromDiscord<whisperecean> Norm does not implement PSQL uuid type right?
14:23:39PMunchI mean it could also be array[2, uint64]
14:23:42FromDiscord<whisperecean> So I just need to read it as string
14:23:57FromDiscord<Phil> I don't think so, but you sure can just store it in a column like that
14:24:07FromDiscord<Phil> IIRC Postgres has like half a dozen different columns that can store strings ^^'
14:24:29FromDiscord<Phil> If you want to use just the default instead of a specific column type, then you don't really need to do anything
14:24:40FromDiscord<whisperecean> Sorry I dont get it 😄
14:24:50FromDiscord<whisperecean> I need this conversion no?
14:25:17FromDiscord<Phil> Only if you want UUID to be handled differently than any other run-of-the-mill string.↵As in, in your nim code UUID is just a string, correct?
14:25:46FromDiscord<whisperecean> It's just a string yes
14:25:58FromDiscord<Phil> Then norm will just treat it as any other string
14:26:12FromDiscord<Phil> It has default stuff for strings so you shouldn't need to define anything
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14:27:53FromDiscord<whisperecean> i dont think so
14:27:59FromDiscord<whisperecean> Why am I getting this then? Error: unhandled exception: field 's' is not accessible for type 'DbValue' using 'kind = dvkOther' [FieldDefect]
14:28:41FromDiscord<Phil> I don't do crystal ball prophecies, I need code
14:30:24FromDiscord<whisperecean> In reply to @isofruit "I may have made": Literraly this
14:30:32FromDiscord<whisperecean> (edit) "Literraly" => "Literally"
14:31:56FromDiscord<whisperecean> In reply to @isofruit "Basically, just to break": I think I need to tell it to use https://github.com/PhilippMDoerner/lowdb/blob/master/src/lowdb/postgres.nim#L516 as string
14:37:59FromDiscord<Phil> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/TfceejvvowYi
14:38:27FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "https://pasty.ee/ObULMpqwTHyt" => "https://pasty.ee/rebFEobKJoEv"
14:40:05FromDiscord<whisperecean> I want to read it from a postgres database where uuid in postgres (the column name is uuid and the type is postgres uuid) as string in my Nim code. That's what I want to do
14:40:42FromDiscord<whisperecean> In reply to @isofruit "That does not contain": Right. So for this I need to the 3 procs.
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14:41:53FromDiscord<Phil> And a custom datatype, ala `type UUID = distinct string` or so.
14:42:31FromDiscord<whisperecean> Aha!
14:42:34FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @whisperecean "I want to read": Alrighty! This is important to know since this turns around what is already there and thus what needs to be added.↵I was initially approaching this ala you having nim-data and not a DB yet
14:42:38FromDiscord<whisperecean> type UUID = string woul dbe just an alias?
14:43:15FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @whisperecean "Right. So for this": The important bit is that nim does the...err... it's not polymorphism... my brain is dead and I forget the word... I guess "proc dispatch"...↵It does the proc dispatch based on the type
14:43:18FromDiscord<whisperecean> sorry yes...i did not even realize that the uuid in the psql db is called "uuid" and that it's also a psql type
14:44:43FromDiscord<Phil> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/fMJZiKwtKgeA
14:44:50FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @whisperecean "type UUID = string": Yeah, which means it'd try to use the string procs
14:45:51FromDiscord<whisperecean> https://glot.io/snippets/gt1g7lne8z
14:46:17FromDiscord<Phil> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=rAzPEsEzVulJ
14:47:28FromDiscord<whisperecean> the hard part is the 3 procs i dont understand that voodoo XD
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14:49:00FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @whisperecean "the hard part is": The procs sort of are just like maps↵↵For your recent issue you need to copy paste the full error
14:49:39FromDiscord<Phil> Though I assume the issue you're running into that you can not do `$uuid`
14:50:22FromDiscord<whisperecean> Maybe this func dbValue(val: UUID): DbValue = dbValue(val)↵and this proc to(dbVal: DbValue, T: typedesc[UUID]): T = UUID(dbVal.s)
14:50:35FromDiscord<Phil> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/yIXwbzsyMZyQ
14:54:18FromDiscord<Phil> Actually, wait, let me think
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14:55:29FromDiscord<whisperecean> Waiting hopelessly
14:57:37FromDiscord<Phil> These are the 2 ma↵Nim Type <-- dbValue --> DBValue <-- (lowdb stuff || dbType) --> DB Column Type
14:57:41FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "These are the 2 ma↵Nim" => "Nim"
14:58:07FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "Nim Type <-- dbValue ... -->" added "\|\| to"
14:59:43FromDiscord<Phil> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/kZRArHPthhiL
15:00:45FromDiscord<Phil> To store data to a column, norm needs to take the nim-type, transform it into a DbValue type (via `dbValue` proc) since it only knows how to store `DBValue` instances in a database.↵It then stores the value in DbValue in a column whose type is determined by the `dbType` proc - that one is mostly relevant when creating a new db
15:01:25FromDiscord<Phil> As for your specific error, I'd need a full copy of the stacktrace, as per the usual.
15:01:39FromDiscord<Phil> Still convinced it's the fact you're using `$`
15:04:14FromDiscord<whisperecean> ah I can remove it but still dont really have a clue how it should look like
15:06:34FromDiscord<whisperecean> https://glot.io/snippets/gt1gs696gd
15:12:59FromDiscord<whisperecean> But I have no diea what I am doing
15:13:04FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Oh Beef, what's that patch you made for storing the cache of macros for nicer stacktraces when code errors on macro code?
15:13:21FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I can't find it now :p
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15:16:28FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> I don't think binaries are self contained, are they?
15:18:40FromDiscord<zumi.dxy> Maybe, assuming the same libc
15:18:54FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Wdym? With musl they can be statically linked↵(@System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet)
15:18:55FromDiscord<zumi.dxy> Or `--passL:-static`
15:19:00FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @sys64 "I don't think binaries": not sure what this is in response to
15:19:12FromDiscord<nnsee> but yes they can be totally statically linked
15:19:26FromDiscord<whisperecean> @Phil Yeah it compiles but does not work
15:19:27FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Openssl and glibc are more pain to statically link than it's worth
15:20:19FromDiscord<zumi.dxy> or if you happen to import any other "impure" modules :p
15:20:33FromDiscord<zumi.dxy> also there's that thing about dynamically loading libraries at runtime isn't it?
15:20:56FromDiscord<nnsee> glibc is a non-issue, just use musl, not sure what you mean by openssl? static linking that generally just works
15:21:27FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Do you have a `.env` file, and with dotenv.nim (assuming this one\: https://github.com/euantorano/dotenv.nim) are you calling `load`?↵(@whisperecean)
15:21:39FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Some can be statically linked↵(@zumi.dxy)
15:21:46FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> It just requires a bit of thought I believe
15:21:51FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Wait really?↵(@nnsee)
15:21:58FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I thought it was a complex process?
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15:23:04FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @nnsee "but yes they can": My program asks for a ton of dll when I compile on Windows↵Such as pthreads and so on
15:23:44FromDiscord<zumi.dxy> try compiling with `--threads:off`?
15:24:03FromDiscord<zumi.dxy> i think it's on by default these days
15:24:24FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Yep you're correct
15:25:13FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/937692878300413992/1112881594341011506/image.png?ex=65caa640&is=65b83140&hm=880c9e5d0233f9a119a7fc79e61158d618d5dcd213035e1d589b5ff83d412c92&↵↵And for that?
15:26:17FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I have no idea about that
15:28:15FromDiscord<zumi.dxy> (insert something about mingw here)
15:28:29FromDiscord<zumi.dxy> try `--passl:"-static -static-libgcc"` ?
15:31:23FromDiscord<nnsee> oh, windows... no clue
15:31:40FromDiscord<nnsee> i don't like to torture myself so i don't use or target windows
15:35:13FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> ^^^
15:35:57FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Oh I should probably push that event system I worked on to GitHub when I get home
15:36:17FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I wonder how I'd make it threadsafe, or if it even can be threadsafe
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15:53:31FromDiscord<whisperecean> @Phil any idea?
15:54:45FromDiscord<Phil> I'll repeat again:↵Full (and I mean, full, not just the last line) stacktraces at a minimum, better is also a minimal example.↵Anything else requires me doing pulling out my crystalball and we've played this song and dance often enough that I you should know my answer for that.
15:55:16FromDiscord<Phil> A description of "it doesn't work" is not actionable.↵You needs to describe what is wrong if you want help.
15:55:29FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) removed "doing"
16:00:03FromDiscord<whisperecean> Still getting the same error: Error: unhandled exception: field 's' is not accessible for type 'DbValue' using 'kind = dvkOther' [FieldDefect]
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16:05:35FromDiscord<odexine> Phil asks for the whole output
16:05:52FromDiscord<odexine> As in every single line that is printed about the error
16:08:39FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=zpxWhWmLaqOx
16:10:42FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> Oh it works with `peekChar`
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16:14:22FromDiscord<Phil> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/JphjDuHSPfmK
16:15:49FromDiscord<odexine> In reply to @isofruit "As Rika stated. **Full**": ~~technically it’s not the last line since the stack trace usually comes after the error~~
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16:23:05FromDiscord<whisperecean> I dont think there is anything relevant https://glot.io/snippets/gt1ivwpxyu
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16:43:05FromDiscord<Phil> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=esQOShZPvUkl
16:43:55FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=YUvjrjkzSxNi" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=VRfdmAnmKwxw"
16:44:32FromDiscord<Phil> Basically anything that isn't one of the standard types appears to get pumped into `dvkOther` so you don't mix up... let's say "exotic" stuff like uuid with actual normal string values
16:48:01FromDiscord<whisperecean> Hmmm
16:51:11FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/CZXUKpjMwKkY
16:51:30FromDiscord<Phil> I can't really go into more detail here without taking an hour or so to dive into the lowdb code because while it is my repo, it's just a fork I took over since I needed some changes and the original author wasn't reacting
16:51:44FromDiscord<Phil> And I'm mentally fucking dead after work
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16:52:17FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "work" => "work, so the necessary juice for that, as well as the necessary interest for it, is kinda dead atm"
16:53:57FromDiscord<whisperecean> Thanks a lot anyway!
16:54:27FromDiscord<whisperecean> It compiles but i dont see the uuid as string i just get uuid: .. in the output for this code: https://glot.io/snippets/gt1jpwz90x
16:54:30FromDiscord<whisperecean> no other error
16:54:37FromDiscord<Phil> Btw. the advice on how to present your problem (full stacktrace, code-sections that blow up etc.) is pretty much universal and always appreciated.↵It'll save you from downvotes on stack overflow if you ever post there 😛
16:55:57FromDiscord<whisperecean> The output is like this 😯 (status: 2, uuid: ..., id: 454)
16:56:07FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @whisperecean "It compiles but i": In that case my first guess would be "Huh, so what does the actual output look like? Where can I see the direct return? Ah, normdebug!"
16:56:12FromDiscord<Phil> I see you went there as well 😄
16:56:50FromDiscord<Phil> In that case check if maybe oid is where stuff gets put into
16:57:01FromDiscord<whisperecean> OID? 😮
16:58:25FromDiscord<Phil> Look at the types I sent earlier. You have a DbValue of kind dvkOther, that o field contains a DbOther instance which has 2 fields: oid and value
16:58:34FromDiscord<whisperecean> aaah
16:58:52FromDiscord<Phil> Oid is a type alias over cuint (c-uint, so an unsigned integer for C, aka a number that does not know what negative values are)
16:59:19FromDiscord<Phil> Though I think that's an ID for the column-type, skimming over things
16:59:31FromDiscord<whisperecean> man this is super complicated
17:00:56FromDiscord<Phil> You're running into bugs for scenarios that aren't often traversed (or if there are it's by folks that basically already know this stuff and thus quickly fix it up themselves, but I assume this actually is a bug)
17:01:11FromDiscord<Phil> The way the code looks like to me this thing should be inside `value`
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17:14:32FromDiscord<whisperecean> I can't do just UUID(dbVal.o.oid) right?
17:32:11FromDiscord<Phil> Nope, oid is a cuint, but really I think this won't be your value, it's a column-id, not a column-value
17:32:51FromDiscord<Phil> To convert ints and related types (uint, cuint) use `$`
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19:10:52FromDiscord<whisperecean> But you think my actual uuid will be in this oid field?
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19:31:40FromDiscord<.bobbbob> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=CWUqptJTJoso
19:43:58NimEventerNew thread by Apsurt: 2D sequence setter, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/10941
19:53:18FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @whisperecean "But you think my": No, that's what I was trying to say.↵I think your actual value should be in the value field and something is buggy
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20:22:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> @Robyn [She/Her] https://github.com/beef331/Nim/tree/unexpandmacros
20:23:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Allocator has(had) an leaky issue↵(@.bobbbob)
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20:26:05FromDiscord<Phil> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/qoJUBYtGzHQh
20:26:11FromDiscord<whisperecean> In reply to @isofruit "No, that's what I": Thought so. But still dont really have an idea what did you suggest to try as an alternative to get the real value
20:26:15FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "https://pasty.ee/hepbTRZdokFp" => "https://pasty.ee/KUGFshwcFhKs"
20:26:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Phil are you using the same valgrind version?
20:27:21FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @whisperecean "Thought so. But still": For a brief moment before I realized what oid stood for sth that could contain your value, but I was wrong. I actually don't have an answer for you other than doing a deep dive into lowdb code and fixing this.↵Which is an amount of work and complexity I have no resources for in regards to dealing with it
20:28:22FromDiscord<Phil> You can file an issue in norm, ideally containing a minimal example and potentially somebody will pick up the mantle there.↵Note that this is potentially rooted in lowdb ultimately and how it parses data, though moigagoo also might have more of a clue here.
20:28:40FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Phil are you using": Same valgrind version in what sense?
20:28:45FromDiscord<Phil> Same as what?
20:28:54FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Is your CI's valgrind the same as your local
20:29:08FromDiscord<Phil> Good question, one sec
20:29:56FromDiscord<Phil> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=VbBiXMuWktQy
20:30:29FromDiscord<Phil> The CI runs on Ubuntu 22.04, so that should work alright
20:30:57FromDiscord<Phil> Though still almost 2 year older version of valgrind, it's only 4 minor version differences, seems... okay
20:31:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Gotta remove that variable
20:31:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Either gotta get that version for your system or the CI
20:31:57FromDiscord<Phil> Err... err... hmm
20:34:53FromDiscord<Phil> Let's see how close ubuntu-latest gets to the arch version
20:35:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> 5 years older 😄
20:37:08FromDiscord<Phil> Still 3.18, dangit
20:37:35FromDiscord<Phil> ... I kinda fear building valgrind from scratch because the github action I have already looks bloated as all hell
20:38:05FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @Elegantbeef "<@524288464422830095> https://github.com/beef331/N": Thanks!
20:39:34FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Allocator has(had) an leaky": https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/compare/devel...beef331:Nim:unexpandmacros.diff diff file go brrr
20:43:49FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Out of curiosity, is it possible to use curl to fetch a text file, and pipe that data into a command that accepts a file?
20:44:06FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> `man curl`
20:47:40FromDiscord<graveflo> is there a feature that is conceptually similar to `inject` for inline iterators?
20:48:00FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> nope
20:48:18FromDiscord<graveflo> nuts. Iterator template it is then
20:48:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Just use a tuple
20:48:48FromDiscord<graveflo> as the return type?
20:48:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> yes
20:49:10FromDiscord<graveflo> wouldn't the mutable value need to be `var` in the tuple? That is what I tried first
20:49:14FromDiscord<graveflo> but nim doesn't like it
20:49:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> could do `ptr T`
20:49:26FromDiscord<graveflo> true
20:49:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Or `ref T` if you do not want to do unsafe code
20:49:52FromDiscord<graveflo> hopefully that gets optimized away though. I feel like for inline iterators that is unnecessary.
20:50:16FromDiscord<graveflo> it's for a bool so I don't think ref is necessary
20:50:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> "get's optimised away"
20:50:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I mean it's one pointer indirection 😄
20:51:04FromDiscord<graveflo> I still don't like writing code that does something unnecessary like that. It's bothersome
20:51:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I don't disagree
20:51:29FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `var T` is the same as `ptr T` though
20:51:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Which makes me wonder
20:52:27FromDiscord<graveflo> Is it though? I figure that `var` is not necessarily tied to that implementation. Especially when we are talking about something like an inline iterator. It just has to be semantically correct
20:53:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There you go
20:53:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=TjFNuIJInklh
20:53:55FromDiscord<graveflo> LOL that is strange
20:54:09FromDiscord<graveflo> I like it though considering the options
20:54:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I
20:54:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> 've never thought to do that before so it's a nice solution
20:57:05FromDiscord<Phil> Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
20:57:19FromDiscord<Phil> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=MtsJtaCqvoCE
20:57:23FromDiscord<Phil> Valgrind, why would you do this to me
20:57:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Clippy here did you mean to write "fuck"
20:57:27FromDiscord<Phil> I trusted you
20:57:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So 3.18.1 is just broken?
20:58:27FromDiscord<Phil> Not a single clue, all I can tell you is if I run a binary compiled under arch via ubuntu distrobox (because I can't be arsed to set up nim on this distrobox) it fails the same way as on the CI
20:58:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Locally build 3.18.1 phil
20:59:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I believe in you
20:59:11FromDiscord<Phil> Find me the sources and I will
20:59:21FromDiscord<Phil> I get commands and guides for the most recent version everywhere
20:59:32FromDiscord<Phil> Googling for 3.18 lands you nowhere surprisingly
20:59:34FromDiscord<Phil> At least not for me
20:59:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://sourceware.org/pub/valgrind/
20:59:49FromDiscord<Phil> How?!
20:59:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Imagine not going to the FOSS' website and clicking "software releases"
20:59:54FromDiscord<Phil> My google fu is pretty good usually
21:00:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> image.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1203082494099066940/image.png?ex=65cfcce2&is=65bd57e2&hm=9534c484cadd01c132dac8790be8e259b2f563bdb38019ea5605233369847bac&
21:00:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Can you guess what I clicked?
21:00:44FromDiscord<Phil> You clicked the "Be smug to Phil" button xP
21:00:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well I typed a bit, so that was a few more buttons
21:02:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Anyway I hope you hit the same bug
21:03:37FromDiscord<penguinite> For nim 2.0.0, there are only three AV detections. But for some reason 2.0.2's detections rose to 18
21:03:40FromDiscord<penguinite> i mean 17
21:07:06FromDiscord<Phil> Now lets just pray valgrind is not as bad a compile as openssl was
21:22:32FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Anyway I hope you": Nope I do not
21:23:47FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Not sure how I'm supposed to handle modified utf-8 in Nim
21:23:58FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> `"\xC0\x80".toRunes().len` seems to work
21:24:11FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> But idk how to output modified utf-8 with Nim
21:24:17FromDiscord<Phil> Wait, I take that back
21:24:25FromDiscord<Phil> Yes I do, my earlier terminal still used 3.22
21:24:40FromDiscord<Phil> 3.18.1 is just fucked
21:25:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> > But idk how to output modified utf-8 with Nim↵You make a `type ModifiedUtf8 = distinct string` and a `$` for it that converts from fake utf8 to real utf8
21:28:06FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @Elegantbeef "> But idk how": Good idea
21:28:28FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> https://github.com/sciencesakura/mutf-8/blob/master/src/index.ts oh this seems easy to port actually
21:31:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well happy to have narrowed down your issue phil
21:48:06FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> What would fill the role of `String.fromCharCode` in Nim? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/String/fromCharCode
21:52:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=tOMAEYoeMgam
21:52:25FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It heap allocates though
21:52:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> but std/widestrs is utf16
21:53:11FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Ugh... I don't wanna touch this
22:00:30FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Well happy to have": Thanks there, now I'll just need to figure out which of the various painful routes I wanna go
22:03:10FromDiscord<m4ul3r> I’m away from pc, but copyMem uses memcpy_chk on Linux, correct?
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22:14:54FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> This made me look at godbolt, and wow it's got Nim 2.0.0
22:15:04FromDiscord<demotomohiro> That is how `peekXYZ` works. `peekXYZ` blocks until it get enough amount of data to return. Only difference between `peekXYZ` and `readXYZ` is `peekXYZ` doesn't change read position.↵This proc might be what you really need to use:↵https://nim-lang.org/docs/osproc.html#hasData%2CProcess
22:15:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Did you forget to mention someone demo?
22:17:03FromDiscord<demotomohiro> I tried to reply @Hamid_Bluri but forget.
22:21:37FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/compare/devel...bee": Uhhhh i am struggling with applying the patch-
22:23:22FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Beef, think the PR you made is broken ehe-
22:25:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I mean it's multiple months old so you likely need to modify it
22:26:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Wow it's actually like 1 and a half years old
22:26:33FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Oh fun
22:26:39FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Oh well I can live withut, I am lazy
22:26:56FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I also use ChatGPT to port a Python MUTF8 impl to Nim while fixing code up
22:26:57FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Fun
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22:30:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Why understand what's happening when you can just rely on a llm
22:33:04FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Exactly!
22:33:16FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I am reading through the code to understand it of course
22:33:23FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I just cannot be bothered to implement this-
22:43:13NimEventerNew thread by blackmius: Linking on Mac M1, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/10942
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