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| 01:59:27 | skrylar | renesac: Rust is supposed to get a form of compiler extensions that allow modifying the AST too, but thats 1) in the mythical "someday after forever" todo bin and 2) a separate plugin thing |
| 01:59:44 | fowl | rust has macros doesnt it |
| 01:59:55 | skrylar | fowl: crippled macros |
| 02:00:04 | fowl | they looked ghastly |
| 02:00:05 | skrylar | they're second class citizens and they have loads of restrictions |
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| 02:01:29 | skrylar | anyhow time to disappear under a shoebox, OS reinstalling and all that |
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| 16:27:02 | Kelet | Hi, I was wondering if anyone knew about something like messagepack, protobuf, capnproto, etc. for nimrod? |
| 16:27:16 | Kelet | Basically I need to serialize/deserialize structures to send over a UDP socket |
| 16:27:41 | Kelet | And I typically use one of the aforementioned (new to nimrod btw, looks nice!) |
| 16:29:16 | dom96 | hello Kelet |
| 16:29:34 | dom96 | There is an enet wrapper somewhere on github IIRC. Maybe you could use that? |
| 16:30:01 | dom96 | https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-enet/ |
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| 16:39:16 | Kelet | dom96: Kind of. For example nimrod-enet expects data as a 'cstring'. I'm looking for something that can convert an object or an array to a cstring (or something like that) and converted back into the object so I can easily send it over a socket. |
| 16:39:36 | dom96 | You can use the marshal module for that. |
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| 16:42:55 | Kelet | Yeah I saw that, but I'm not convinced by JSON serialization compared with compact binary serialization (http://msgpack.org/) as saving bandwidth is important in this scenario |
| 16:43:08 | Kelet | Most of the other ones mentioned do something similar |
| 16:44:36 | dom96 | You would need to write something yourself then or wrap one of those libraries. |
| 16:45:02 | Kelet | Yeah I was mostly just probing to see if something like that existed and I was possibly missing it |
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| 17:22:55 | shodan45 | anyone know if such a thing as methods that work on 2(+?) classes at once exists? |
| 17:23:25 | shodan45 | (I know that's not really nimrod-related, but I figured this might be a good place to ask) |
| 17:24:03 | renesac | you mean 'proc foo(x: type1|type2)' ? |
| 17:25:26 | shodan45 | renesac: hmm, no - more like proc foo(x: xtype, y: ytype) - but would get called for either foo(x,y) or foo(y,x) |
| 17:26:31 | renesac | hum, I think you need to overload |
| 17:27:06 | shodan45 | like how other languages have an automatic "this" variable in method (java, etc) - is there such a thing as automatic "this1" and "this2"? |
| 17:27:40 | renesac | well, nimrod don't have a class block (yet?) |
| 17:28:27 | shodan45 | I coded something like this in python years ago for a game - say I wanted a function to run when 2 kinds of things intersected |
| 17:28:29 | renesac | 'this' is normally the first argument |
| 17:28:43 | EXetoC | "proc p(x: T|U, y: T|U)"? |
| 17:29:01 | renesac | but I don't understand what automatic 'this' have to do with that |
| 17:29:26 | EXetoC | so runtime then? well you can use a variant for example |
| 17:29:40 | renesac | EXetoC, but then it could be called with "p(T , T)" |
| 17:30:36 | renesac | shodan45, what is wrong with the overload method? |
| 17:31:11 | shodan45 | iirc, I used a frozenset (an unordered tuple) of 2 things that intersected, and had functions "mapped" to each combination that could intersect |
| 17:31:36 | renesac | well, python don't have overloading |
| 17:31:51 | shodan45 | renesac: nothing - I'm just thinking theoretically :) |
| 17:32:26 | renesac | well, this mapping is already done by nimrod, when you overload |
| 17:33:13 | shodan45 | renesac: ok, interesting... |
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| 17:35:35 | shodan45 | I suppose I could use some macro magic to also define the same function but with argument order swapped? |
| 17:35:44 | shodan45 | err proc ;) |
| 17:36:31 | shodan45 | I really should find that old python code.... |
| 17:36:36 | renesac | maybe even a template might suffice, I'm not sure |
| 17:36:57 | EXetoC | sounds like something that should be evaluated at runtime though, but maybe I'm wrong |
| 17:37:30 | renesac | this would be something worthy of being in the stdlib/language, as I also needed it |
| 17:38:16 | shodan45 | EXetoC: quite possible, I haven't thought this through... just woke up with it in my head ;) |
| 17:38:58 | shodan45 | renesac: that would be cool... I guess what I want is a proc with "orderless" parameters |
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| 17:52:24 | vbtt | hello, what happened with gsoc? |
| 17:53:24 | EXetoC | we weren't accepted. see the forum for an explanation |
| 17:53:41 | vbtt | ok |
| 17:53:44 | vbtt | bummer |
| 17:53:51 | EXetoC | but basically there were plenty of other good candidates |
| 17:55:54 | vbtt | in programming languages? i'd really like to see them. |
| 17:56:04 | vbtt | what's 'vouch' anyway? |
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| 18:01:59 | fowl | vbtt, someone to speak for how cool we are |
| 18:02:25 | vbtt | right, but who counts? |
| 18:02:35 | vbtt | I mean, everyone on irc here can 'vouch' for us. |
| 18:02:52 | fowl | oh |
| 18:03:08 | fowl | probably someone with clout in the tech community, or a large twitter following or something |
| 18:03:44 | vbtt | reading their faq 'googler or other organization' |
| 18:03:54 | vbtt | anyway, g2g |
| 18:04:00 | vbtt | later, guys |
| 18:04:00 | r0b2 | fowl: i can vouch for you |
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| 18:04:15 | fowl | r0b2, you already have, you're on my resume |
| 18:04:37 | r0b2 | good |
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| 18:08:18 | Mat3 | hi all |
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| 18:25:49 | Demos | shodan45, sounds like you want names parameters |
| 18:26:37 | Demos | indeed nimrod has named parameters |
| 19:01:01 | Araq | shodan45: you're looking for multi methods which nimrod supports via the 'method' keyword |
| 19:05:53 | Mat3 | Araq: Have you take a look at the Julia language (specially there macro system) ? |
| 19:06:38 | Araq | Mat3: not sure, I think so |
| 19:13:46 | Mat3 | uno momento |
| 19:29:30 | EXetoC | ".*" as a nimgrep pattern matches nothing. bug, right? |
| 19:29:40 | Mat3 | Araq: http://docs.julialang.org/en/release-0.2/manual/metaprogramming/ |
| 19:30:23 | Araq | EXetoC: you need to enable regexes |
| 19:30:26 | fowl | EXetoC, what should it match, hidden folders? |
| 19:32:51 | EXetoC | Araq: it's the default apparently |
| 19:33:02 | EXetoC | fowl: no it's the content pattern |
| 19:33:23 | fowl | oh |
| 19:33:59 | dom96 | EXetoC: Maybe your shell is doing something weird. Try escaping the characters. |
| 19:34:36 | EXetoC | dom96: no it's escaped |
| 19:41:23 | EXetoC | and has anyone been able to evaluate sub-patterns when replacing? |
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| 21:10:00 | Varriount | Araq: What do you want the tester to do when it can't find babel, or when babel errors? |
| 21:10:43 | Araq | Varriount: quit "babel failure" |
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| 21:18:03 | Mat3 | ciao |
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| 22:28:11 | Varriount | Araq: Sent a PR for babel integration with testament. I would be grateful if you looked over it and made sure that I'm giving the right test information and so on. |
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| 22:31:15 | Araq | Varriount: will do it tomorrow |
| 22:31:18 | Araq | thanks |
| 23:05:17 | NimBot | Araq/Nimrod devel 6f6cf97 Araq [+0 ±1 -0]: bugfix: walkFiles on windows shouldn't yield directories |
| 23:05:17 | NimBot | Araq/Nimrod devel 44f5bd9 Araq [+2 ±2 -0]: better handling of packages, still incomplete |
| 23:05:17 | NimBot | Araq/Nimrod devel 414883e Araq [+0 ±5 -0]: the compiler is now aware of packages |
| 23:05:17 | NimBot | Araq/Nimrod devel cd2711d Araq [+0 ±3 -0]: Merge branch 'devel' of https://github.com/Araq/Nimrod into devel |
| 23:09:21 | Varriount | Araq: I think my next goal will be to finally get a stat() like procedure, so we can have a flexible way of retrieving file information and so on. |
| 23:09:58 | Varriount | That is, if my Composition 2 professor's scatterbrained assignments don't drown me in confusion first. |
| 23:11:18 | profmakx | that sounds like music |
| 23:13:49 | Matthias247 | Varriount: can't be worse than my work assignments ;) |
| 23:14:48 | Araq | Varriount: we really have much more pressing stuff to od |
| 23:15:12 | Araq | what about your libcef wrapper, for instance? |
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| 23:19:10 | Araq | Varriount: oh well 'stat' is a fine project, go on |
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| 23:21:07 | Skrylar | meep |
| 23:23:19 | * | Skrylar scratches head at this beta program that has an expiration date. I kinda think its silly to have an expiration date on something you have to buy to use anyway |
| 23:30:39 | NimBot | Araq/Nimrod devel 4c3323c Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz [+0 ±1 -0]: Avoids crash parsing unknown rst raw directive. Fixes #761. |
| 23:30:39 | NimBot | Araq/Nimrod devel a11ce3c Andreas Rumpf [+0 ±1 -0]: Merge pull request #969 from gradha/pr_avoids_crash_on_unknown_rst_directive... 2 more lines |
| 23:31:57 | * | Varriount meeps along with Skrylar |
| 23:37:39 | Araq | Varriount: if you add "babel" to the list of additionalCategories it will by run with 'tester all' |
| 23:37:45 | Araq | which it shouldn't do |
| 23:41:51 | fowl | babel included with nimrod now?? |
| 23:45:51 | Varriount | Araq: Oh. I thought that's what you wanted. |
| 23:46:15 | Araq | fowl: almost |
| 23:50:20 | shodan45 | Araq: hah... indeed "method" is very close to what I want, and the manual even uses "collide" as an example |
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| 23:52:09 | dom96 | Varriount: Why did you define a waitForExitEx? |
| 23:53:44 | shodan45 | although really what I did in python let you define a single method for colliding 2 things in arbitrary order... hmm |
| 23:54:01 | Varriount | dom96: Because waitForExit doesn't work if the process has output |
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