<< 02-06-2020 >>
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00:06:18disruptek!repo marsh
00:06:19disbothttps://github.com/disruptek/marsh -- 9marsh: 11marshal native Nim objects via streams 15 0⭐ 0🍴
00:06:54disruptek78mb in 0.2 (write), 0.25 (read)
00:07:00disruptekbbl
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00:09:42disruptek.22 write and .22 read with arc.
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00:18:19FromDiscord<willyboar> "or if you're still using Nimble like it's 2012" 🤣 🤣 🤣
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01:46:49AvatarfighterWhen you open a file and start writing to it, is that file stored in memory until you close it or is it writing as you call write?
01:48:48disruptekask your os.
01:49:52Avatarfighter.-. ok
01:51:10Avatarfighterhttps://bit.ly/2zRs7gQ this is me rn trying to figure out how I caused my program to eat 16gb of memory
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01:59:51Avatarfighterdisruptek are you working on anything fun/unfun atm?
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02:06:39disrupteknever.
02:09:31Avatarfighternever working on anything!?
02:10:36disrupteki'm working on this marshal code.
02:10:43FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> He's just indifferent to the fun-ness
02:10:52AvatarfighterDisruptek is the king of fun
02:11:14disruptekit turns out that a prostate massager makes any code fun.
02:11:16Avatarfighterhe is working on marshaling stuff its so fun some people would die to do it :D
02:12:18disruptekit's pretty stupid stuff, honestly, but it started with araq parsing 2mb of C in 0.6s.
02:12:26Avatarfighterlmfao
02:12:34Avatarfighterthat's wildly fast
02:12:37disrupteknow i'm doing >500mb in 1.5s, so i think it was worth hacking at.
02:12:52Avatarfighterwhy were you two parsing C?
02:13:04disruptekdon't loop me into his shenanigans.
02:13:21AvatarfighterI would like to hear more about these parsing shenanigans :P
02:13:55disrupteki thought it was stupid, then i thought it was iffy, then lua proved twice as fast, now nim is like, i dunno, 160x faster.
02:14:16Avatarfighterwym you were parsing C btw
02:14:23Avatarfighterim curious about that aspect
02:14:38Avatarfighterthis is the first time I've heard of competitive parsing :P
02:14:48disruptekaraq's idea was to use the C code we generate as a database for the purposes of incremental compilation.
02:15:14disruptekthat part makes some sense, since in theory it holds an image of the important bits.
02:15:47Avatarfighterthat's a neat thing to do ngl
02:15:53disruptekit was only competitive because i happened to have worked out lua parsing and i had a benchmark to throw in his face.
02:16:01Avatarfighterlmao
02:20:05disrupteki'm sure araq could take what i've written and make it 4x faster.
02:20:48disruptekthe point is that the speed of the backend is not a bottleneck, and neither is any reliance on status code or sqlite or lmdb.
02:21:11disruptekwe have a native nim implementation that is xplatform and all that.
02:22:00disruptekand it's like 50-100 lines before comments and tests and stuff.
02:22:04bungpython's range func has too much hidden rules..
02:22:24Avatarfighterwhats the issue with the range func lol
02:22:31disrupteki think it improved in 3, though.
02:22:47Avatarfighterbung wym by hidden rules
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02:24:01bungYou cant simplely using nim's countup countdown replace it
02:24:45Avatarfighterwhat do you mean? You should easily be able to emulate countup/countdown with range() in py
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02:26:24bungi guess I should using reversed
02:27:07bungwhen you using countup/countdown you shold know start end which is bigger
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02:43:35FromDiscord<Zed> How do pointers work?
02:43:50FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> They point
02:44:14FromDiscord<Zed> lol, but how do you create a pointer? or pass a pointer to a function?
02:44:38FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> `var a = b.addr`
02:46:28FromDiscord<Zed> ah
02:46:52FromDiscord<Zed> well that's semi simple
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03:02:07FromDiscord<Yardanico> @Zed you don't need to use raw pointers though
03:02:39FromDiscord<Yardanico> Nim has "ref" - managed pointers, you create them when a type is "ref something"
03:02:52FromDiscord<Yardanico> Raw pointers are mostly needed for FFI and low level stuff
03:03:05FromDiscord<Zed> so `ref variableName`?
03:03:23FromDiscord<Yardanico> https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#types-reference-and-pointer-types
03:05:23FromDiscord<Yardanico> you rarely need to create references to value types like ints or strings though
03:08:57FromDiscord<Yardanico> Most of the time you want ref object if some object is mutated a lot of if it's big enough
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03:32:22FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> I find C# funny in that regard, most things are classes and structs rarely get used
03:32:30FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> Atleast by novices
03:49:11FromDiscord<Yardanico> That's common in all OOP languages
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05:43:10bunggood afternoon
05:45:04FromDiscord<willyboar> good morning 🙂
05:46:45bungok, morning time there
06:02:17leorize[m]can someone on mac run this and give me the output? `openssl s_client -showcerts -connect incomplete-chain.badssl.com:443`
06:03:38AvatarfighterDo you think that the output of that on ios will suffice?
06:04:00Zevvoi disruptek, still awake?
06:06:35bunghttps://pastebin.com/1Fsvp8md here you go
06:07:32Yardanicoleorize[m]: https://bpa.st/WPRA
06:08:58leorize[m]thanks, but guess I'll have to wait for federico3 to return to figure out why that error doesn't happen in the nim code
06:09:59leorize[m]context: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/14542/checks?check_run_id=729434995#step:12:69
06:10:00disbot➥ asyncnet, net: call SSL_shutdown only when connection established [backport]
06:10:00leorize[m]this should error but it didn't
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06:45:11Zevv1st world problems you got there. With me it's always stuff that errors when it shouldn't
06:45:28Yardanicolol
06:45:32Yardanicoisn't your case easier
06:45:47Yardanicoi think it's easier to debug when it errors but it shouldn't instead when it doesn't error but it should
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06:54:26bung!eval for x in (2.. -2) : echo x
06:54:29NimBot<no output>
06:54:40Yardanicobung: .. doesn't work as countdown
06:54:49Yardanico!eval for x in countdown(2, -2): echo x
06:54:51NimBot2↵1↵0↵-1↵-2
06:55:10bungshould design for misused ?
06:55:52bungif start and end is a param comming from somewhere
06:55:57Yardanicobung: ?
06:56:04Yardanicodo checks
06:56:52bungit I know to do check I wouldn't write code like that.
06:56:55bungif
06:57:46Yardanico!eval let start = 2; let end = -2; for x in (if end > start: start .. end else: end .. start): echo x
06:57:47NimBotCompile failed: /usercode/in.nim(1, 20) Error: identifier expected, but got 'keyword end'
06:58:05Yardanico!eval let start = 2; let stop = -2; for x in (if stop> start: start .. stop else: stop .. start): echo x
06:58:08NimBot-2↵-1↵0↵1↵2
06:58:11Yardanicosee
06:59:10bungoh no, I just wondering kind of this could classify as a language design problem ?
07:00:32bungfor avoiding misused ?
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07:05:15leorize[m]it's usually a problem on "how to interpret the developer intentions" and "how to avoid suprises"
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07:07:51bungok I just throw it out, I found this when I porting python lib , it use `range` function
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07:15:10PMunchbung, yeah it's certainly one of those gotchas when coming from Python
07:15:23PMunchYou could of course write your own `range` iterator
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07:17:33bungPMunch yeah, I wrote a iterator named as pyRange for this.
07:19:57ZevvI still wonder why people keep refusing to allow .. to downcount
07:20:24Zevvare they really concerned about the overhead of one single "if" in the top of the iterator?
07:20:45PMunchI think it's more about being explicit vs. implicit
07:20:54Zevvhow's that different.
07:21:10Zevvit's just semantics
07:21:55PMunchWell as it is now .. is just an alias for countup, and we also have countdown. So using .. is explicitly only increasing, and it will throw an error if you by accident pass in indexes that doesn't make sense.
07:22:08PMunchIt's a weak bit of protection in a way
07:23:33PMunchZevv, how do you fetch the IRC logs by the way? For your graphs
07:25:46Zevvfor l in lines("/home/ico/irc/2020/06/01"):
07:26:01ZevvZevv, proudly logging since 1993!
07:26:03PMunchhttps://github.com/nim-lang/nimbot <- is this the actual live NimBot that does the logging? Hasn't it had a single change since 2017?
07:26:13PMunchZevv, oh so you're logging yourself..
07:26:49Zevvright
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07:29:50bungYardanico what project you working on ?
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07:53:37PMunchHmm, I have a "new result" in some old code and I get: "Cannot prove that 'result' is initialized. This will become a compile time error in the future. [ProveInit]" errors
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08:11:28PMunchHello NimBotNg :)
08:12:02PMunchJust trying to build the nimbot code, surprisingly few edits required
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08:41:56FromDiscord<Varriount> Ok, are all PRs currently failing due to valid reasons, or has the CI/CD pipeline sprung a leak?
08:44:51Araqthe CIs are in a bad shape
08:47:42Araqbut mighty Timothee is saving us :-) https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/14547
08:47:43disbot➥ fix common source of flaky tests (503 github errors) by retrying with backoff
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08:53:29FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> Who'd have thought that `if(failing):dont()` would be so difficult 😄
08:59:27alehander92oi
08:59:30alehander92morning
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09:03:38alehander92i dont know, parsing C sounds exhausting
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09:22:10PMunchStill just testing some stuff with NimBot
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09:41:45PMunchJust another test
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09:56:54FromDiscord<Synth> Does anyone know how I can parse a procedure that returns a generic type `T` into an if statement?
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09:57:30FromDiscord<Synth> For example, I would have a generic procedure return type string or false and I want to check if the procedure return false or a string
09:57:47FromDiscord<Synth> Please ping me when someone is able to assist me, thank you!
09:58:00alehander92you can use `when`
09:58:11alehander92but i dont think it works the way you think
09:58:25alehander92a generic procedure would still return the same type in the same context
09:58:49alehander92because it just "generates" many procedures, some of them returning bool, some string etc
09:59:18PMunch@Synth ^
09:59:35alehander92what are you trying to di
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09:59:56PMunch@willyboar, are you on?
10:02:26FromDiscord<Synth> Ahh I see
10:02:49FromDiscord<Synth> Well, I have a procedure that returns the contents of the file if it exists and returns false if it doesn't
10:03:27alehander92:)
10:03:49alehander92interesting
10:03:59alehander92one can use a tuple `(string, bool)`
10:04:02alehander92or Option
10:04:10alehander92`Option[string]` (from `options`)
10:04:41alehander92or an exception: usually those are the ways you can deal with optional values in typed languages (or a custom param for result, but no need for that imho)
10:05:26FromDiscord<Synth> Ahh I see
10:05:35alehander92so use whatever you want: i think option is the best
10:05:35FromDiscord<Synth> Could you give me a example in a codeblock?
10:05:38FromDiscord<Synth> I'm sorry ;-;
10:05:42alehander92but you can choiose other
10:05:55FromDiscord<Synth> How would I use the tuple method?
10:05:59FromDiscord<Synth> If tuple?
10:06:03alehander92no problem
10:06:05alehander92https://nim-lang.org/docs/options.html
10:06:11alehander92here they show a good example
10:06:20FromDiscord<Synth> Thank you very much!
10:07:41alehander92a tuple would be e.g. (string, bool) => (value, false) for normal and ("", true) or (string, SomeErrorType) => (value, nil) for normal and ("", SomeErrorValue) for error
10:07:45alehander92but i'd use options
10:08:26alehander92because looking at the api tells me in an obvious way
10:08:34alehander92"this is an optional value"
10:09:04PMunchYeah "Option" is definitely your best bet here
10:09:07alehander92however tuples might be also a good choice, if one doesnt want to unpack with `.get` really down to what you want
10:09:25FromDiscord<Synth> Ahh okay, thank you!
10:09:27PMunchBut you'd still have to unpack the tuple..
10:09:29FromDiscord<Technisha Circuit> How do i make it do removePrefix returns the value of the text?
10:09:36FromDiscord<Technisha Circuit> (edit) 'How do i make it do removePrefix returns the value of the ... text?' => 'How do i make it do removePrefix returns the value of thenee'
10:09:37FromDiscord<Synth> What do you mean?
10:09:39FromDiscord<Technisha Circuit> New*
10:09:49FromDiscord<Technisha Circuit> Is it sugar.dup?
10:10:12PMunchI'm guessing removePrefix takes a var string and it's in-place?
10:10:19alehander92synth , so option is better, but if you really like it, you can use the other things
10:10:21PMunchIn that case you'd need to wrap it
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10:12:22FromDiscord<Rika> if its inplace use sugar.dup
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10:14:05FromDiscord<Technisha Circuit> Thanks! So would it be like `sugar.dup("string". removePrefix("prefix"))`?
10:14:27FromDiscord<Rika> ufcs where smh
10:14:33FromDiscord<Rika> comma too lmao
10:14:34FromDiscord<Rika> not period
10:14:51FromDiscord<Technisha Circuit> Wut?
10:15:21FromDiscord<Rika> `g". rem`
10:16:37PMunch@Technisha Circuit: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2o5U
10:16:45PMunchNot sure what Rika is on about :P
10:17:21PMunchOr depending on your preferences this also works of course: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2o5V
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10:34:07PMunchDoes pinging people over the bot with spaces in their names work by the way?
10:34:25voltistThere is a bot for pinging people?
10:34:26FromDiscord<lex> sent a code paste, see http://ix.io/2o5X
10:34:28FromDiscord<lex> am I importing correctly?
10:34:50FromDiscord<lex> linter is getting mad at me
10:35:18PMunchvoltist, I mean here on IRC you ping people simply by mentioning their name. But on Discord and Gitter you need @ before their username
10:35:31voltistAh right
10:35:38PMunchSo the FromDiscord and FromGitter bots will try to convert those to actual pings
10:36:09PMunch@lex, yeah that looks fine
10:36:19PMunch(Although Nim uses 2 spaces for indentation, not 4)
10:36:27FromDiscord<lex> cannot open file: ../util/prompt
10:36:32FromDiscord<lex> I prefer 4 spaces lmao
10:36:36FromDiscord<lex> idk I suppose I can use two
10:36:41FromDiscord<lex> adds more readability for my blind ass
10:36:55PMunchYou get used to it quickly, I was also not super happy with it to begin with
10:37:00voltistshashlick: Sorry for getting all up in your pings whilst you were away; I'm having a serious case of not being able to use nimterop :)
10:37:11PMunchNow I think Python just looks like a bunch of whitespace :P
10:37:52PMunchTry to add .nim to that import statement. I think maybe with filepaths you need that
10:38:14voltistPMunch: I don't think thats the case is it?
10:38:31PMunchBut I think they are also relative to cwd when the compiler is invoked (a bit dumb, but I think that's the case).
10:38:56PMunchvoltist, I don't remember, but doesn't hurt to try :P
10:40:56FromDiscord<Rika> theyre relative to the file
10:41:23FromDiscord<Rika> adding .nim would look for the file `nim.nim` in `../util/prompt/`
10:41:41FromDiscord<Rika> (nim used to use `.` for imports like python afaik)
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10:44:04Yardanicodid it?
10:44:55Zevvthe fun I have. now with yellow=mentions, red=pings: http://zevv.nl/div/irc.png
10:45:04Yardanicolol
10:45:18Yardanicohow did you do that? :P
10:45:30Zevvvoodoo
10:45:33FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> look at that, i am already top 15 :P
10:45:35Yardanicoand why I am connecting a lot of people
10:45:51FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> and thats not even counting when i write yardanico wrong xD
10:46:15Zevvreload for today's
10:46:16FromDiscord<Rika> today i have been inactive it seems
10:46:17FromDiscord<Rika> lmao
10:46:25ZevvSo if I now ping @rika, our line should go red
10:46:30FromDiscord<Rika> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
10:46:31Zevv@Rika, that is
10:46:35FromDiscord<Rika> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
10:46:54FromDiscord<Rika> HOW COULD YOU DOUBLE PING ME
10:47:01Zevvit's magic
10:47:10Yardanico@rika
10:47:21FromDiscord<Rika> Zevv Yardanico
10:47:22FromDiscord<Rika> reeeeee
10:47:26YardanicoZevv: wait what
10:47:28Yardanicoit autoupdates
10:47:28Yardanicowtf
10:47:29Yardanico?
10:47:58YardanicoZevv: maybe I should really do the thing timo asked me to do
10:48:04FromDiscord<Rika> also lmao someone's named lex in irc it seems
10:48:05Yardanicoparse all IRC logs for #nim into an sqlite database
10:48:16Yardanico@Rika nah they're on discord
10:48:21FromDiscord<Rika> really?
10:48:24Yardanicoyes
10:48:24FromDiscord<Rika> didnt notice
10:48:32PMunchZevv, what are grays?
10:49:03Zevvpeople talking in succcession, accumulated inverse proportional to the time between messages
10:49:20FromDiscord<Rika> holy shit the graph is unstable as fuck
10:49:25FromDiscord<Rika> the order changes really often lmao
10:49:32Zevvyeah, blame graphviz
10:49:56YardanicoZevv: ok you convinced me, will try to parse nim irc logs today or tomorrow, I have raw data
10:50:00PMunchBut wait, I pinged willyboar earlier today?
10:50:08Zevvwhy woudl you, text is good enough
10:50:09Yardanicobut it's half marshal's json output and half html
10:50:10FromDiscord<Rika> today is relative
10:50:15YardanicoZevv: to get nicks
10:50:17ZevvPMunch: or he pinged you?
10:50:23Yardanicoand their relationships
10:50:26Yardanico@Rika in 48 hours
10:50:29Zevv00:36 #nim: < FromDiscord> <willyboar> @PMunch why don't you pick another blogging platform?
10:50:49PMunchYeah, that was just after midnight, and then I pinged him this morning to explain why :P
10:50:58PMunchBecause I had logged off before that ping
10:51:10FromDiscord<Synth> sent a code paste, see http://ix.io/2o62
10:51:12FromDiscord<Synth> Anyone know why this is?
10:51:31FromDiscord<Rika> what
10:51:34FromDiscord<Rika> why are you doing that
10:51:37Yardanico@Synth that's not valid nim
10:51:40FromDiscord<Synth> (edit) 'http://ix.io/2o62' => 'http://ix.io/2o63'
10:51:42Yardanicoif you have a tuple, you should return both values
10:51:43FromDiscord<Synth> Oh
10:51:48Yardanicoand with options
10:51:49FromDiscord<Rika> do `proc example(exampleArg: string): Option[string] =`
10:51:50Yardanicowhat are you trying to do?
10:51:52PMunch@Synth, there's so much wrong with that :P
10:52:02FromDiscord<Synth> I'm sorry, I've never used options before
10:52:08Yardanico@Synth your idea is not really possible anyway
10:52:11Yardanicounless you use object variants
10:52:16FromDiscord<Synth> I'm trying to return 2 types and check if it returned string or false
10:52:18FromDiscord<Rika> sent a code paste, see http://ix.io/2o64
10:52:23PMunchYardanico, he just wants to either return a string, or fales.
10:52:28FromDiscord<Synth> Ahh okay, thanks
10:52:28YardanicoPMunch: yes
10:52:29PMunchs/fales/false
10:52:39Yardanicoah with options it's fine right
10:52:43PMunchWhich is the same logic as would be expressed with an option
10:52:44PMunchYeah
10:52:49FromDiscord<Rika> you make some "mentally equal to" true, and none "mentally equal to" false
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10:58:11PMunch@Synth: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2o65
11:01:06voltistIs a there a standard library proc to split a seq into evenly sized sections?
11:01:18Yardanicohttps://nim-lang.org/docs/sequtils.html#distribute%2Cseq%5BT%5D%2CPositive
11:01:35voltistAh neat
11:01:45voltistThanks
11:01:48Yardanicojust check that the seq length can be evenly divided by the size of the section
11:02:11Yardanicowell, if you know that it always can be divided you don't have to do that
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11:06:31voltist@Vindaar Around?
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11:13:55FromDiscord<lex> ``` ... /home/bork/Programming/connctl/src/commands/init.nim(1, 8) Error: cannot open file: ../util/prompt```
11:13:57FromDiscord<lex> big error
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11:18:00FromDiscord<Rika> i assume `/home/bork/Programming/connctl/src/util/prompt.nim` exists
11:18:16Yardanico@lex how are you compiling?
11:18:16FromDiscord<Rika> oh maybe remove the ""s in the import
11:18:32FromDiscord<lex> nimble build
11:18:53FromDiscord<lex> sent a code paste, see http://ix.io/2o5X
11:19:28Yardanicowhy quotes?
11:19:28FromDiscord<lex> idk
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11:20:11Yardanicowell you only need them when the directory name is not a valid nim identifier (e.g. starts with a digit)
11:20:44FromDiscord<lex> o
11:20:46FromDiscord<lex> ok
11:20:52FromDiscord<lex> is that gonna make a difference to my erm
11:20:54FromDiscord<lex> error
11:21:01FromDiscord<Rika> yeah
11:21:04Yardanicomaybe
11:21:10FromDiscord<lex> it hasnt
11:21:15FromDiscord<lex> linter is still angery at me
11:21:16FromDiscord<Rika> it means its literally looking for the file named "../util/prompt.nim"
11:21:17FromDiscord<Rika> afaik
11:21:22FromDiscord<Rika> save
11:21:46FromDiscord<lex> i have saved
11:22:04FromDiscord<lex> sent a code paste, see https://discordapp.com/channels/371759389889003530/371759389889003532/717337220507369553
11:22:19FromDiscord<lex> nice
11:22:21FromDiscord<lex> i wrote prompt
11:22:24FromDiscord<lex> and its meant to be prompts
11:22:26FromDiscord<lex> fffffffssssssssssss
11:22:42FromDiscord<Rika> nice
11:22:57FromDiscord<lex> ```nim↵proc init *() =↵ prompts.prompt(prompts.textInput, "Hello Men Are good?")↵ echo("text")```
11:23:09FromDiscord<lex> ```proc init *() =↵ prompts.prompt(prompts.textInput, "Hello Men Are good?")↵ echo("text")```
11:23:29FromDiscord<lex> > expression 'prompt(textInput, "Hello Men Are good?")' is of type 'string' and has to be discarded
11:23:33Yardanicoyes
11:23:33PMunchHaha :P
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11:23:42Yardanicoif something returns a value you need to either use it or discard explicitly
11:24:20PMunchA lot of things in Nim is plural for some reason
11:24:30FromDiscord<lex> oh LOL
11:24:32FromDiscord<lex> FFFFSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs
11:24:35FromDiscord<lex> hahahhhaha
11:24:36FromDiscord<lex> thanks
11:24:37FromDiscord<Rika> chill lmao
11:25:20FromDiscord<lex> wtf
11:25:21FromDiscord<lex> im hyper
11:25:30Yardanicowell you know, we see each message as a different one
11:25:36Yardanicoand each message has your nickname and bridge's nickname
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11:25:47Yardanicoso please try to spend a few seconds before sending a message :P
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11:27:24FromDiscord<Technisha Circuit> Is there a way to only import a specific function from a module?
11:27:28Yardanico"from x import y"
11:27:35FromDiscord<Technisha Circuit> Thanks!
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11:28:51FromDiscord<lex> when I run my init command, I get this as the response. ```("Hello Men Are good?", " ")```
11:29:08FromDiscord<lex> like, i havent even entered anything...
11:29:20Yardanicowell are you listening for input properly?
11:29:30Yardanicoare you reading from stdin or using rstdin or something?
11:29:38FromDiscord<Rika> whats rstdin?
11:29:40FromDiscord<lex> stdin
11:29:51FromDiscord<lex> sent a code paste, see http://ix.io/2o6g
11:29:58FromDiscord<lex> sent a code paste, see http://ix.io/2o6h
11:29:58Yardanicononono
11:30:13Yardanicooh i see
11:30:18FromDiscord<lex> Yeeeeeep.
11:30:20Yardanicowell yes, look
11:30:29FromDiscord<Rika> remove the space between echo and the ()
11:30:31Yardanicoor just do it like
11:30:39Yardanicostdout.write question & " "
11:30:45Yardanicoecho makes a newline and I assume you don't want that
11:30:49Yardanicostdout.write doesn't add a newline
11:30:50FromDiscord<lex> o
11:30:56Yardanicoalso yes, you're echoing a tuple
11:31:36FromDiscord<lex> wait so hold on
11:31:40FromDiscord<lex> what do you mean by ```stdout.write question & " "```
11:31:45FromDiscord<lex> is that a proc
11:31:55Yardanicostdout is a file handle
11:32:01Yardanicowrite is a proc which works on any file handle
11:32:04Yardaniconim has UFCS so you can write:
11:32:08FromDiscord<Rika> same thing as `write(stdout, question & " ")
11:32:09FromDiscord<Rika> (edit) '")' => '")`'
11:32:14Yardanicoyeah
11:32:21Yardanicoor write stdout, question & " "
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11:32:34Yardanicostdout.write(question & " ") will feel logical for you though I guess
11:32:54FromDiscord<lex> hmph
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11:33:06FromDiscord<lex> ok, so I write the question out
11:33:15FromDiscord<lex> and I readLine(stdin)
11:33:15FromDiscord<lex> yeah?
11:33:18Yardanicoyes
11:33:23YardanicoreadLine(stdin) will return when the user hits enter
11:34:05FromDiscord<lex> ooh!
11:34:06FromDiscord<lex> it works
11:34:09FromDiscord<lex> cheers mate
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11:38:35YardanicoPMunch: are you testing nimbot?
11:38:42PMunchYes
11:38:48Yardaniconice :P
11:39:04Yardanicowe also have #nim-test fwiw, I mean it's an empty channel, but I used it to test my ircord
11:39:06PMunchFirst order of business was just to get it to compile :P
11:39:17Yardanicobut I mean not a lot of people have join msgs on anyway
11:39:30PMunchIt hasn't been touched in three years it seems ;S
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11:39:33PMunch:S*
11:41:49shashlick@voltist all good - ping on the nimterop gitter channel for help
11:42:07voltistYep that makes sense
11:42:11voltistWill do tomorrow
11:42:47shashlickOr even an issue is fine - happy to help
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11:47:06PMunchHmm, I think it actually works now
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12:00:38PMunchHmm, so Jester exposes the folder "public" right. But in the Nimble package for nimbot it is in src/public, and the file that starts jester is in src. But the nimble file obviously puts the built file in the root folder, so it doesn't see src/public as public.
12:01:12PMunchShould src/public be moved to just public? What is the norm here for Jester packages?
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12:13:31FromDiscord<Zed> how would i access this data? ` data*: pointer # Image raw data` ↵I've tried dereferencing it with `[]` but that just pulls up errors
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12:14:26FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> thats a raw pointer
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12:15:27FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> you probably need data: ptr DataType
12:15:48FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> pointer = `void*` in c
12:16:07Yardanicoyes
12:16:24Yardanicoif in C it's void* it's "pointer" in Nim (untyped pointer)
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12:18:43FromDiscord<Zed> yeah it's void* in the C library, is there anyway i can read it as it is without changing anything?
12:19:04Yardaniconot really
12:19:09Yardanicopointer is an _untyped_ pointer
12:19:19Yardanicoyou must cast it to some typed pointer to get the value
12:19:37Yardanicobecause pointer is just a pointer - it just points to some memory location without any info about the type, size, etc
12:19:58FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> you can also cast it.↵`cast[ptr DataType](data)`
12:20:02Yardanicoyes, as I said
12:20:08Yardanico"you must cast it to some typed pointer" :P
12:20:36FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> ok :)↵i started typing b4 and didnt pay much atention
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12:22:15FromDiscord<Zed> what is data in that example @Recruit_main707
12:22:23Yardanicoyour untyped pointer
12:22:36FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> ^
12:23:03FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> i finally see where pointer is useful
12:23:31Yardanicowhere? :P
12:24:00FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> (im too scared to say it because i might be wrong)
12:24:53FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> but, from what ive seen, you can use it so that you dont need to wrap objects/structs when interoping with, lets say python
12:25:14Yardanicowell kinda
12:25:21Yardanicoif you don't modify that data - yeah, sure
12:25:44FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> yeah, or if you do it via other functions of your own
12:26:02Yardanicowell if you do it via your own functions then you need to wrap that object in your language
12:26:31FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> cast at the top of the function, cast at the bottom :P
12:26:50Yardanicowell that's the point
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12:27:13Yardanicovoid* in C can accept any pointer type
12:27:22Yardanicoso if you have int* you can pass it as void*
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12:27:40Yardanicoso there's no need to cast between typed and untyped pointer really
12:27:56Yardanicomostly
12:28:25FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> i didnt understand that last part...↵>there's no need to cast between typed and untyped
12:29:07Yardanicowell if you _must_ accept and return void* then yes, you need to cast in your function
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12:29:40FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> ah, yes, i was thinking of some complex things like objects
12:30:14FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> (if you didnt understand that last sentence ignore it, i did understand you) :P
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12:32:15PMunchitalics underline
12:32:20PMunchc12ol02ou04rs06!
12:32:26Yardanicoxd
12:32:39PMunchSorry, just trying to figure out how the IRC module handles these :P
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12:32:41Yardanicoimagine using discord so you don't see glorious colours in IRC
12:32:46YardanicoPMunch: i think it doesn't at all
12:32:49FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> would this work the same way in Nim? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/717355038644764722/unknown.png
12:33:14Yardanico@Recruit_main707 yeah
12:33:19PMunchYardanico, they enter the log at least :) So I should be able to convert them to HTML tags :)
12:33:31YardanicoI had to use a regex (nim-regex) to strip them , or you can use /mode -c #nim IIRC
12:33:49YardanicoI maybe should do it the mode way, but idk how to reliably send it after connecting to the channel
12:34:01Yardanico@Recruit_main707 see https://github.com/Yardanico/nim-snippets/tree/master/clib
12:34:08Yardanicoit's nim from c, but still same thing applies
12:34:35FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> thanks
12:35:31PMunchAh, FromDiscord sends a clear all formatting tag.. That explains why highlighted messages only highlight the nick of those that highlighted me and not the entire message..
12:35:58YardanicoPMunch: is that bad or not?
12:36:29FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> what happens if you use gc:none, instead of GC_ref(), you allocate it, and instead of unref, you free it?↵(im sorry for asking this generic questions)
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12:36:39Yardanico@Recruit_main707 gc:none should never be used
12:36:48Yardanicoand with gc:none there's no way to deallocate GC'dd memory really
12:37:14Yardanicoyou can still use alloc/dealloc manually though, but at that point nim becomes C with better syntax and proper metaprogramming :P
12:38:10FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> ok, i dont use gcc:none, but you never know, better to have the knowledge and dont need it than needing it and not have it
12:38:19Yardanicogc:none should never be used really
12:38:20Yardanicowe have arc now
12:38:37Yardanicowell there might be a small usecase is that when you want to leak memory intentionally
12:38:50Yardanicosome programs leak memory to execute faster but I doubt arc really will slow down those much
12:38:50PMunchYardanico, well normally you'd send the bold character, then the bold message, then the bold character again to end bold mode. That way the colour would colour the entire thing
12:39:03YardanicoPMunch: ah, yeah, I see where I use \x0F
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12:39:21Yardanicobut anyway I do it like "\x02<{m.author.username}>\x0F {msg}"
12:39:37Yardanicobut yeah, need to change
12:39:40FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> or dumb people that say: iTs gARbage CoLlecTed so ITs WouLD be SlOw
12:40:09PMunchYeah that should be "\x02<{m.author.username}>\x02 {msg}"
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12:44:09Yardanicoan interesting thing I found in some discussions btw - some people refer to rust's memory management as a "compile-time GC"
12:44:18Yardanicosince that's actually kinda true
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13:08:14disruptekarc is a compile-time gc, too.
13:08:49Yardanicodisruptek: well RC still exists :P
13:08:53Yardanicoin rust RC is optional
13:09:19FromDiscord<Rika> which complicates simpler programs right>
13:09:21FromDiscord<Rika> (edit) 'right>' => 'right'
13:09:22FromDiscord<Rika> (edit) 'right' => 'right?'
13:09:25FromDiscord<Rika> fuck sorry lmao
13:09:26Yardaniconice two edits
13:09:31Yardanicoand an apologizing message
13:09:34Yardanico:D
13:09:37FromDiscord<Rika> ok
13:11:27FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> {.push: exportc, dynlib.}↵{.pop.}↵to add those prarmas to all the functions inbetween?
13:11:33FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> pragmas*
13:11:58Yardanicoyes
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13:26:01PMunchdouble style
13:26:11Yardanicoheh
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13:26:41PMunchIt works :)
13:26:56YardanicoPMunch: well the thing is that IRC is still kinda not easy to parse
13:27:05Yardanicoif you support \x0F properly you need to maintain bool flags for all styles
13:27:22disruptekeh?
13:27:29Yardanicodisruptek: ?
13:28:01disruptekwhat do you mean?
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13:28:24PMunchYardanico, well yes
13:28:27PMunchAll three styles
13:28:33PMunchWell, four if you count colours
13:28:49PMunchAnd six if you count some weird proprietary ones
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13:29:21PMunchBut that's actually not for \x0F support, but rather for the double tag support
13:30:16disruptekjust strip all the codes if you want to parse it. if you want to tokenize it, use a set.
13:31:19PMunchI want to convert them to HTML
13:31:51disrupteki would use a state machine.
13:32:54Zevvoi disruptek
13:33:07Zevvtell me, I heard you did incremental compilation?
13:33:18disrupteknah.
13:34:04disruptekic is dead. compile server is the new hotness.
13:34:44alehander92come on guys
13:34:53alehander92one can have both
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13:36:10disruptekZevv: i heard alehander92 is working on ic.
13:37:03Zevvoh god no compile server :(
13:37:04alehander92it's called winning, disruptek
13:37:26alehander92we are winning the war with normal compilation
13:37:38alehander92or against
13:37:40alehander92not sure
13:37:42Zevvso, what's the status of all that stuff then
13:37:57disrupteki have my knee on the neck of ic.
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13:38:54disruptekthe status is that i haven an ic6 branch that has a bug in codegen that needs fixing.
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13:39:08alehander92man nope.
13:39:14Zevvwell, just add it to the other 1566 bugs
13:39:17disruptekaraq wants me to pull the mangling out into a pr and throw the rest away.
13:39:17alehander92otherwise is marshal for the ic thing
13:39:28disruptek!repo frosty
13:39:29disbothttps://github.com/disruptek/frosty -- 9frosty: 11marshal native Nim objects via streams 15 0⭐ 0🍴
13:39:32disruptekit's frosty now
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13:40:15disruptekit could replace a lot of code in ic, but as i said, ic is dead.
13:41:02Araqwhat?
13:41:16AraqI never said "throw the rest away"
13:41:49PMunchdisruptek, does frosty work on compile-time?
13:41:52disruptekokay, araq has a plan for the rest.
13:42:05disruptekPMunch: no idea.
13:42:17PMunchHaha, so probably not? :P
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13:42:31disruptekwell, it uses streams and not much else.
13:42:48disruptekit's pretty damn simple.
13:43:07zedeusany idea if it's more memory efficient than using msgpack?
13:43:17PMunchHmm, because the NimScript <-> Nim is pretty horrible when it comes to sending complex data back and forth
13:43:21zedeusI'm storing serialized objects in redis for caching
13:43:34PMunchSo I've been looking into just passing data as a string containing a JSON object
13:43:59disruptekthere will be a channel interface, but channels aren't as efficient as streams.
13:44:30disruptekit's basically as efficient as in-memory representation. maybe a little more efficient.
13:45:01zedeuscool. any limitations with refs or variants?
13:45:18disruptekprobably. i haven't tested it much.
13:45:32disruptekplease fuck with it.
13:45:39Yardanicolmao
13:45:42zedeuswill do.
13:45:54disruptekwell, refs and self-refs seem to work, which is the key.
13:46:06zedeusrecursively?
13:46:14disruptekafaik, yes.
13:46:42zedeussweet, msgpack choked so I can't cache tweets yet
13:46:44disrupteki have a bug with freezing my graphs, but i haven't looked into it.
13:46:59Yardanicodisruptek: your criterion doesn't import "os" btw
13:47:04Yardanicobut it should :P i mean the .nims file
13:47:11YardanicoError: undeclared identifier: 'execCmd'
13:47:18Yardanicoor something like that
13:47:23YardanicoI mean .nimble
13:47:29disruptekthat's not from os.
13:47:45Yardanicowell anyway it fails for that reason
13:47:48Yardanicoinstalling
13:48:15disruptektry head.
13:48:23Yardanicoyeah, works with head
13:48:30alehander92that's like my trying to put on clothes
13:48:35alehander92head is a good choice
13:48:48disrupteki guess i'll bump it for nimble nitwits.
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13:52:02Yardanicodisruptek: well JsonNode serialization didn't work :P
13:52:14Yardanicobecause fieldPairs doesn't support object variants
13:52:16Yardanicoat all
13:52:20Yardanicowell kinda
13:52:23disruptekfrosty is designed for ephemeral storage like cache. there's no facility for type conversions.
13:52:43Yardanicowell some users might want to store object variants but they couldn't right now
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13:52:48Yardanicobecause you would need a macro for that
13:52:54disruptekwell, that won't be hard to fix.
13:54:50zedeusdisruptek: wanna help me figure out how to decrease nitter's memory usage later or tomorrow?
13:55:01disrupteksay when.
13:55:03zedeuswith the stupid amount of traffic on the official instance it's becoming a problem
13:56:42Yardanicowell I just tested, seems sometimes usage can be a bit big
13:56:47Yardanicowith the stupid thing like let a = {"a": {"a": {"a": {"a": {"a": 5}.newTable()}.newTable()}.newTable()}.newTable()}.newTable()
13:56:57disrupteki want a freezer that sinks what you put into it.
13:56:58Yardanicoit takes 1061 bytes serialized -d:danger
13:57:09Yardanicowith*
13:57:18Yardanicoand most of them are zeroes
13:57:24Yardanicoso with compression it would be ok
13:57:27disruptekwhat's it take in memory, chuckles?
13:57:39Yardanicodisruptek: I mean literal count of bytes :P
13:57:41Yardanicoon disk
13:57:46disruptekso do it.
13:57:49disruptekso do i.
13:57:51disruptekin memory.
13:58:05Yardanicobut even with zstd
13:58:06Yardanicotatata : 10.08% ( 1061 => 107 bytes, tatata.zst)
13:58:10Yardanico10x compression :D
13:58:28disruptekso submit a PR.
13:58:39zedeusYardanico: can you try snappy?
13:58:49YardanicoZevv: https://github.com/status-im/nim-snappy ?
13:58:51zedeusI need to serialize large objects ~30 times per second
13:58:54zedeusyes
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13:59:18alehander92hm, i think speed is a bit more important
13:59:21alehander92than size for IC
13:59:29zedeussnappy is made for speed
13:59:33Yardanicouhh
13:59:37alehander92but this might be a tradeoff that can be configurable
13:59:38Yardanicowhy there's https://github.com/jangko/snappy and https://github.com/status-im/nim-snappy
13:59:44Yardanicoand nimble's snappy is jangko's one
13:59:51zedeusthey do that
13:59:55zedeususe status's version
14:00:05disruptekyou'll get an extra copy if you don't use a stream, but whatever.
14:00:30Yardanicodamn snappy depends on stew, testutils, chronos, faststreams, bearssl
14:00:30Yardanicowtf
14:00:38zedeusstreaming objects straight to redis would be wild. let's talk about it later
14:00:54zedeuslol, status is becoming like kde
14:00:59disruptekwell, don't make me fucking guess.
14:01:02disruptektell me when you wanna chat.
14:01:05ZevvYardanico: sorry, was distracted, what's with snappy?
14:01:13Yardanicoah sorry wrong ping :P
14:01:16YardanicoI wanted to ping zedeus
14:01:31zedeusdisruptek: I dunno, I've got about 30 things on my todo list for nitter v2 that just got released
14:01:35zedeusgotta work fast, people are crazy.
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14:01:53disruptekhit me up whenever, then. bbiab
14:03:15Yardanicozedeus: 170 bytes
14:03:19Yardanicofor same let a = {"a": {"a": {"a": {"a": {"a": 5}.newTable()}.newTable()}.newTable()}.newTable()}.newTable()
14:03:28zedeusyeah, but how much faster is it?
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14:04:53Yardanicozedeus: 237.5k iterations/sec in -d:danger
14:05:15Yardanicothat's with snappy, yes
14:05:27Yardanicoin -d:release it's ~200k
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14:06:35zedeusand zstd?
14:06:43Yardanicozedeus: well idk if there's zstd for nim binding :P
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14:06:57Yardanicoah there is https://github.com/wltsmrz/nim_zstd
14:06:58Yardanicolemme try
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14:10:04Yardanicozedeus: zstd with level 3 is slower (https://github.com/wltsmrz/nim_zstd), but uses ~40 less bytes for same thing,
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14:10:09Yardanicowith level -5 for zstd speed is still mostly the same ,strange
14:10:13Yardanicomaybe bindings are not efficient :P
14:10:25zedeushah, perhaps. how much slower?
14:10:38Yardanicowith level -5 for zstd
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14:10:45Yardanico240k iters/s for snappy and 147k iters/s for zstd
14:10:57zedeusgreat
14:11:00Yardanicoalthough even https://facebook.github.io/zstd/ facebook tells that snappy is faster than zstd
14:11:05Yardanicothe reference impl
14:11:11Yardanicobut ratio is worse of course
14:11:18Yardanicobut frosty just has a lot of null bytes
14:11:27zedeusyeah, snappy optimizes for speed while zstd cares more about compression ratio
14:11:29Yardanicoso even snappy can achieve ~9x compression ratio
14:11:39Yardanicothanks for snappy btw, didn't know such a thing existed
14:11:46zedeusmade by Google
14:11:49Yardanicoyeah, I know
14:11:53YardanicoI mean the nim implementation :P
14:11:55Yardanicopure-nim
14:11:58zedeusah
14:12:54FromDiscord<Rika> zstd with fast seems faster than snappy tho
14:13:00FromDiscord<Rika> it says so in the table
14:13:02Yardanicowell idk
14:13:05YardanicoI compared nim packages
14:13:09Yardaniconot reference implementations
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14:13:35FromDiscord<Rika> interesting
14:14:27Yardanicotried even with -d:useExternalZstd (to make nim-zstd use system's zstd), still same result
14:14:31Yardanicomaybe the binding is wrong or something
14:15:14FromDiscord<Rika> or bad
14:15:18Yardanicoi meant this too
14:15:28zedeuswrong things are generally bad
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14:17:08zedeususing packedjson instead of stdlib json didn't seem to change nitter's memory usage at all, I guess something else is hogging up memory
14:17:29zedeusmaybe karax
14:17:32Yardanicowell you can kinda get memory usage stats with default gc with dumpNumberOfInstances or something like that
14:17:42Yardanicodom made a nim prometheus report thing for that
14:17:42zedeusyeah, I'll try that later
14:17:46zedeusyep I tried it
14:18:04zedeusbut that was when I was still parsing html so most of the objects were xml nodes
14:18:24FromDiscord<Rika> zedeus: but bad things arent always wrong
14:18:40zedeusdepends on the definition of bad
14:20:23zedeusalso, nitter is now 2-4x faster than twitter at loading timelines :)
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14:25:31PMunchYardanico: https://uploads.peterme.net/newlogs.png
14:25:37PMunchWhat do you think?
14:25:48Yardanicolooks really cool :)
14:25:54Yardanicoyou might also want to handle FromDiscord I guess
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14:26:03Yardanicochange it to some special symbol or something
14:26:07PMunchEh
14:26:55Zevvand of course autogenerate http://zevv.nl/div/irc.png. it's already in the right style I see :)
14:27:47zedeusinteraction graph?
14:27:54Zevvplease make your server messages dark grey or something, not bright green
14:27:59Zevvit's background noise
14:28:07Prestigezedeus: is nitter a Twitter clone?
14:28:16zedeusnot quite
14:28:21zedeushttps://github.com/zedeus/nitter
14:29:07PrestigeLooks awesome
14:29:13Zevvwow a Nim app in the wild!
14:29:26zedeusbeen working my ass off for the past two weeks to save it from the removal of legacy twitter
14:29:28zedeushttps://github.com/zedeus/nitter/pull/169
14:29:29disbot➥ Nitter v2
14:33:09zacharycarterstrformat docs are confusing
14:33:20zacharycarterspecifically related to formatting floating point precision
14:34:29ZevvI hate that doc; I started fixing it once but never finished it
14:48:30PMunchSweet.. NimBot is apparently not running the code in the official NimBot repo..
14:49:20FromGitter<kaushalmodi> zacharycarter: Does this help? https://scripter.co/notes/nim-fmt/#precision
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14:50:06FromGitter<kaushalmodi> I have organized the strformat fmt/& by the specifiers and not by the data type
14:51:17zacharycarterkaushalmodi: yeah thanks, it does make it clearer - I figured it out from the normal docs it just wasn't obvious
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14:52:39PMunchOh shit..
14:53:27PMunchI changed json.nim to include a converter for StringTableRef, but that means I can't parse the old logs any longer..
14:54:02disruptekthe logs are available in json?
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14:55:44PMunchYup: https://irclogs.nim-lang.org/02-06-2020.logs
14:55:47zedeusI wonder if destroying big parts of the json while parsing it would be useful in reducing memory usage. No need to keep around a json copy of a tweet after deserializing it
14:56:30disruptekwhat you need is a quality out params impl.
14:57:33PMunchWell, I don't think it's 100% JSON, it prepends the entire thing with the start time. Then every line is whatever $$ from marshal spits out for the object
14:58:03PMunchBut strtabs doesn't have a good JSON serialisation, so the file ends up pretty huge.. I wrote a better one, but that means it can't read the old format..
14:58:05disruptekmarshal works for arc now, right?
14:58:18PMunchNo idea
14:59:25disruptekkinda nuts.
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15:40:37PMunchHmm, NimBot is so old that Time was an int64..
15:40:49disruptekpepperidge farm remembers.
15:40:56PMunchSo any attempt at marshalling the old object will fail..
15:41:32disruptekneed a retro library.
15:41:45PMunchSo I'll need to write a "Old IrcEvent object to new IrcEvent object converter"
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16:02:39PMunchHoorah: https://github.com/nim-lang/nimbot/pull/15 🎉
16:02:40disbot➥ Modernise NimBot
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16:14:35FromDiscord<treeform> Does any one know if there is a way to pass a "const string". So that I can do stuff to the string compile time?
16:15:24FromDiscord<treeform> I pass an html color string to a fill function. `fill("#F00BA4")` If its a "const string" could I parse it compile time? But if its run time string parse it runtime?
16:16:17FromDiscord<treeform> Do types carry with them a maker that they are const types or not?
16:20:00FromDiscord<mratsim> use static string
16:20:21FromDiscord<mratsim> you can have a static overload
16:20:36FromDiscord<treeform> WOW that so easy! Thanks.
16:20:45FromDiscord<treeform> This is *exactly* what I wanted.
16:21:39FromDiscord<treeform> This appears to work: https://gist.github.com/treeform/30eac7e122dc8009cfd174a55b8bc720
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17:12:13disruptekfsck btrfs.
17:12:19disrupteki always manage to corrupt it.
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17:34:05PMunchdisruptek, isn't the whole point of btrfs that it should be better for rollbacks and such?
17:34:43PMunch@treeform, you always use the weirdest syntax that I'd never guess would work :P I always end up typing static[string]
17:37:47FromDiscord<treeform> what `static[string]` works?
17:38:45FromDiscord<treeform> well mratsim told me to use `static string` so I did.
17:38:53Zevvcorruptek
17:39:01FromDiscord<treeform> do you also use `var[string]` ?
17:39:35disrupteki snapshot a SAN fs every hour. when i crash my machine, i often have to rollback.
17:39:51disruptekthing is, it's btrfs over btrfs because... it's san.
17:40:04disruptekso wtf. the fs isn't even safe over itself.
17:40:16PrestigeWhy is your machine crashing?
17:40:34PMunch@treeform, wait? Does that actually work? `var[string]`?
17:40:45Zevvsnapshotting the FS every hour is too much of a burden for the machine
17:40:46PMunchI think mratsim was just telling you to use a static string :P
17:40:47ZevvI guess
17:40:56disrupteki just lost power because when trump moved control of the electricity grid to his desk, there was a brief interruption as the ups cycled.
17:41:24PMunchNims syntax flexibility continues to amaze me
17:41:29Zevvthat's one crap ups you have there. With a president like that I'd make sure to have a hospital-style unit in my cellar!
17:41:42disruptekyou can also syntax[sometype](some expr)
17:41:44disrupteker,
17:41:48disruptekyou can also static[sometype](some expr)
17:41:58PMunchJust switch to a crude oil generator, I hear that's cheap nowadays
17:42:09disrupteklol
17:42:24PMunchdisruptek, what would that do?
17:42:38disruptekin soviet russia, you pay diesel generator!
17:42:40PMunchThe same as "static(some expr)" just explicitly telling it the return type?
17:42:51disruptekyeah?
17:43:14disruptekelse it's not typesafe, right?
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18:15:04FromDiscord<treeform> @PMunch, no `var[string]` does not work.
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18:22:42FromDiscord<exelotl> Woah I didn't know that one. That forces "some expr" to be evaluated at compile time without first assigning it to a const?
18:26:36PMunch@treeform, haha okay
18:27:02PMunchGood to know I'm not completely out of touch
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18:30:49PrestigeIs there a faster way to do this? https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2o7J seems to take forever to complete
18:31:15Prestigea similar cpp example runs in ~3 seconds but this is taking about 42 seconds for me
18:33:16Zevv4 seconds here
18:33:20Zevv-d:danger?
18:34:05PrestigeI just did nim c myfile.nim
18:34:12Zevvdo nim c -d:danger myfile.nim instead
18:34:29Zevvdefault C compiles "safe", doing boundary checks and all
18:34:29PMunch-d:release is your first try
18:34:29Zevvwhich is nice, but not fast
18:34:58Zevvyeah what he said. I prefer living on the edge myself tho
18:35:19Prestigeoh that is much better, thanks
18:35:26PrestigeI kind of forgot about compiler options
18:35:37FromDiscord<Rika> 2 user seconds on danger for me
18:35:51Prestige1.89 on release for me
18:36:03ZevvI got a crap computer
18:36:13FromDiscord<Rika> why?
18:37:11ZevvI don't care for bogomips I guess
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18:50:21ZevvI only care for fast disks
18:50:26FromDiscord<Rika> man why am i bullied everywhere
18:50:35Zevvsome people have that
18:50:37FromDiscord<Rika> people tell me that i'm so bulliable or something
18:51:13PMunchHaha, I wasn't bullying you :P
18:51:17PMunchIt was just a reference
18:53:22FromDiscord<Rika> no im used to it
18:53:36FromDiscord<Rika> countless friends and discord servers have playfully bullied me
18:54:22FromDiscord<treeform> Prestige, most of the time is allocating a 381Mb buffer.
18:54:39FromDiscord<Rika> damn thats massive
18:55:09FromDiscord<treeform> if you do `var str = newStringOfCap(1000*800*500)` at the start it runs nearly instantly.
18:55:19FromDiscord<treeform> basically preallocate the string
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18:57:48FromDiscord<treeform> oh I got it down to 0.3seconds on my machine with this:
18:58:19FromDiscord<treeform> https://gist.github.com/treeform/a0bf64af27b9423d93d31bb196723007
18:59:14FromDiscord<treeform> oops bug, need to do newString(1001*801*501)
18:59:27FromDiscord<treeform> because 0..1000 includes 1000 so its 1001 things
19:00:30Zevvhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-by-one_error
19:00:36FromDiscord<treeform> yeah!
19:00:40Zevv"A straight fence with n sections has n+1 posts."
19:00:56FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> Only if it's made properly
19:01:05Zevvthat's not wrong
19:01:15FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> Free floating panels anyone?
19:01:38FromDiscord<treeform> Because this is such a huge uniform buffer, I can see this being speed up by some sort of page copier, where you create a page then use the operating system to copy pages (which is virutal and lazy)... but that might be too much?
19:02:42FromDiscord<treeform> Usually that is used for clearing large buffers not filling them... I have never done it.
19:07:07Prestige@treeform not working eh?
19:07:45Prestigeincrementing 3 times in each loop
19:09:42Prestigeso need to *9
19:11:21FromDiscord<treeform> yeah, you right
19:11:28FromDiscord<treeform> I did the wrong computation its acctually
19:11:41FromDiscord<treeform> `1001*3 + 1001*801*3 + 1001*801*501*3`
19:12:24FromDiscord<treeform> or 1.1GB buffer
19:12:41FromDiscord<Rika> damn
19:13:35Prestige0.30s with -d:danger
19:14:51FromDiscord<treeform> I get 1.30s on my Mac. Your computer is faster.
19:14:58FromDiscord<treeform> https://gist.github.com/treeform/a0bf64af27b9423d93d31bb196723007
19:16:45FromDiscord<treeform> actually using the normal string version is faster
19:17:01FromDiscord<treeform> I get 0.30 with -d:danger as well
19:17:05FromDiscord<treeform> my optimization is not good
19:17:13FromDiscord<treeform> I think the string copy wins some how
19:21:33Prestigewhat is faster?
19:21:50Prestigelike str &= "foo" ?
19:23:39Zevvyour code is wrong
19:23:48Zevvhttp://ix.io/2o7Q the assertion fails
19:24:15PrestigeZevv: 100 vs 1000
19:24:39Zevvoh right. Ye olde off-by-900 error of course
19:26:24Prestigeor off-by-zero ;)
19:26:37Zevvghe
19:29:41Zevvrepeat("foo" & repeat("bar" & repeat("baz", 501), 801), 1001)
19:30:19Prestigeoh fancy
19:30:39FromDiscord<mratsim> I like Oboe
19:30:46FromDiscord<Rika> oboe?
19:30:52FromDiscord<mratsim> Off-by-one-error
19:31:02FromDiscord<mratsim> wasn't updated to the latest message 😛
19:31:19FromDiscord<Rika> Oboe looks like a name of a place s
19:31:28FromDiscord<Rika> (edit) removed 's'
19:32:01FromDiscord<mratsim> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oboe#/media/File:Oboe_modern.jpg
19:32:25FromDiscord<mratsim> This instruments inspired Vim and Emacs
19:32:36Zevvmratsim: is there a way that's more friendly to the eyes then casting-to-pointer to tell nim "trust me, I know what I'm doing" when using GC-ed data in weave
19:32:39FromDiscord<Rika> PFF
19:33:20FromDiscord<mratsim> Not using GC-ed data :p
19:33:26Zevvfair enough :)
19:35:42PrestigeZevv: that's stupid fast
19:36:26Zevvthat's what it is for, right
19:53:12FromDiscord<KrispPurg> Is there any examples of locks in Nim, besides RosettaCode?
19:53:28FromDiscord<KrispPurg> anymore*
19:53:37FromDiscord<KrispPurg> (edit) 'anymore*' => 'any more*'
19:56:54Prestigeon the threads page I think
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19:57:07FromDiscord<KrispPurg> Link?
19:57:07Prestigehttps://nim-lang.org/docs/threads.html
19:58:37silvernodeAraq, Watching your interview on the "Context Free" Youtube channel. Thank you for your dedication in sticking with the Nim project all these years. Great interview so far, keep up the good work.
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20:02:24FromDiscord<speckledlemon> Ah, oboe and Nim, two of my favorite things
20:08:35alehander92ohh
20:09:34alehander92oh no man my rfc is there in the video :D
20:10:35alehander92ok, some papers later
20:10:43alehander92seems more sophisticated!
20:21:21alehander92!disbot
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20:34:21silvernodeI just had a random though: Does Nim run on Android? I never thought to look into it. I imagine I could install it via termux.
20:34:30silvernodethought*
20:34:33alehander92yeah
20:34:36alehander92some people use it
20:35:30silvernodeIs there an alternative way other than termux?
20:37:34alehander92no idea
20:37:36silvernodeI am so comfortable with Nim now after 6 months of using it that I think I can replace bash in my day to day scripting. Normally by now with a programming language, the hype wears off and I move onto something else. Oddly this hasn't been the case with Nim.
20:38:06alehander92i dont want to lie to you: i am not sure about android
20:38:22FromDiscord<Clyybber> Nim can run on android no problem
20:38:29silvernodealehander92, That's ok, it's not like I was going to use it anyway.
20:38:35FromDiscord<Clyybber> You can even bridge to java with jnim
20:38:40FromDiscord<Clyybber> I also ran it in termux
20:38:41alehander92i think https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/3575
20:39:06silvernodeThanks
20:39:10alehander92disruptek, you online?
20:41:22silvernodeMan, I really need to participate in the IRC room more. For awhile I was here every day but lately I've been slacking.
20:49:14silvernodebb
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20:56:14alehander92yeah :)
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21:09:35FromDiscord<exelotl> oh wow that interview with araq is really good :O
21:10:18FromDiscord<exelotl> best overview of the Nim programming language I've seen, especially in any video
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21:59:45disruptekyes.
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22:10:59zedeusdisruptek: can you write to a socket with frosty?
22:11:33zedeusif not, there's a feature request for ya
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22:12:13FromDiscord<treeform> silvernode, see my post on how to get stuff running: https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/5197 its tricky but not impossible.
22:12:42silvernodeThanks!
22:12:56FromDiscord<treeform> oops here is the direct link: https://github.com/treeform/glfm
22:14:02FromDiscord<treeform> I would like to create a tool that's some thing like emscripten but for mobiles.
22:14:27FromDiscord<treeform> were you just do `mobile-nim-tool foo.nim` and you get a foo.app. Not there yet.
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22:55:44FromDiscord<Rika> 😮 zevvs irc image is now dark themed
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23:07:53AvatarfighterWhat's the correct way of seeing if a path is a file/folder?
23:08:00Avatarfighterleads to a file/folders
23:09:17AvatarfighterI guess walkDir can be used
23:10:04FromDiscord<Rika> existsFile?
23:10:07FromDiscord<Rika> existsDir?
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23:10:24leorize[m]Can someone tell me why I need this? https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/14542/files#diff-09ce05d4800aaaa6014de76809a63957R403-R411
23:10:25disbot➥ asyncnet, net: call SSL_shutdown only when connection established [backport]
23:10:53AvatarfighterRika: thank you, I skipped over the part where it says that directories, devices files, etc will return false
23:12:34alehander92disruptek, sorry
23:12:37alehander92tomorrow
23:12:44alehander92gnight people
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23:37:10Avatarfighterdoes anyone know how to stop karax from escaping quotes in an element?
23:37:42AvatarfighterI'm trying to do serverside rendering right now and i'm passing some js directly in a script element but karax escapes the double quotes
23:38:35Avatarfighteri found it
23:38:43Avatarfighter"verbatim" if anyone else is interested
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23:54:14skrylar[m]hiyo
23:56:40skrylar[m]silvernode: yes i've been missing for some days too :(
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