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02:14:12FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @aintea "It does help but": hopefully Nim V2 will add em
02:14:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> don't check your major version
02:14:58FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> V3 oops
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03:09:38FromDiscord<odexine> Nim version 2, the second
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05:30:29FromDiscord<_lasse> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=VoXBCfNP
05:32:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Oh hello there 🙂 is `RootState` a parent of `State` procedure dispatching is static so you need to convert
05:32:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Methods exist but are only dispatched on the first parameter(without the deprecated --multiMethods\:on)
05:32:49FromDiscord<_lasse> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=YIIGzptF
05:33:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Hmph it should've worked
05:33:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Up casting can happen implicitly but down casting requires conversions
05:35:59FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Did you by anychance do `State = ref object of RootObj` ?
05:36:16FromDiscord<_lasse> Yes
05:36:44FromDiscord<_lasse> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=xPyvDRHD
05:36:54FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You need to specify `ref` on all children otherwise you're only inheriting the value type the pointer points to
05:37:20FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You may have missed the `ref` in my message
05:37:44FromDiscord<_lasse> Ah, yeah I have been fiddling around and the ref was there originally and I added it back now, the error did not change
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05:38:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You need `RootState = ref object of State` otherwise you're inheriting a hidden value type
05:39:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=UyLfzVai
05:39:27FromDiscord<_lasse> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=LqDzYJhZ
05:39:38FromDiscord<_lasse> Still errors
05:40:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Erm
05:41:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Can you share `State`s definition aswell?
05:41:28FromDiscord<_lasse> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=xtRdSKpf
05:42:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well given these are reference objects you don't need the `var` since I you don't want to change where they point probably
05:42:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> since I imagine\
05:43:11FromDiscord<_lasse> Ah right, yeah that's true. I'm coming from C# where everything's mutable by default
05:43:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well refs carry that over a bit
05:43:52FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You can mutate fields but just not change where they point
05:44:34FromDiscord<_lasse> Oh I removed those and it gave me a different error from elsewhere now. Thanks!
05:44:56FromDiscord<_lasse> I had another var in the FSM changeState
05:45:13FromDiscord<_lasse> (edit) "var" => "`var`"
05:46:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I should note your procedures are not going to work how you imagine. They're not runtime type bound so `State().enter()` will always call `state.enter(State())`
05:46:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> you likely want to use `method` and mark the `state` module procedures with `{.base.}`
05:47:06FromDiscord<_lasse> Oh, thanks. I'll check that feature out. Still learning 😅
05:47:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea I was there 5 years ago
05:47:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I also came from C# with Unity
05:49:55FromDiscord<_lasse> Yeah that's where I'm coming from too. 15 years of Unity and Unreal. Decided to learn something new
06:05:09FromDiscord<_lasse> In reply to @Elegantbeef "you likely want to": Thanks again! https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1346000426369159228/image.png?ex=67c69815&is=67c54695&hm=d0a43ecc0d02329087c3c87a3902a8836ccdb06ec5c96b985bc290d049070260&
06:05:29FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> We did it we're OOPing ourselves!
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09:23:58FromDiscord<madonuko> In reply to @madonuko "for some reason nim_langserver": figured it out, it doesn't support `binary_name.nim.cfg` but it does support `config.nims`
09:24:30FromDiscord<madonuko> the funny https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1346050591842897981/image.png?ex=67c6c6cd&is=67c5754d&hm=1aab96411e2c10b11d4bb0971488eab48b25f52928012e216d52360a9a848a1c&
09:27:14FromDiscord<aintea> In reply to @battery.acid.bubblegum "hopefully Nim V2 will": I hope it is already in the language but I didn't discover it yet
09:37:04FromDiscord<jabuci> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=icREXLGw
09:37:48FromDiscord<jabuci> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=szhrSaVs
09:38:46FromDiscord<that_dude.> I'm pretty sure ord isn't designed to hardle unicode
09:39:46FromDiscord<that_dude.> `echo cast[int](char.high) # = 255`
09:40:04FromDiscord<that_dude.> (edit) "hardle" => "handle"
09:41:10FromDiscord<that_dude.> Well characters don't go above 255 which is what `'a'` creates
09:41:34FromDiscord<lainlaylie> https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#lexical-analysis-character-literals
09:41:46FromDiscord<lainlaylie> > A character is not a Unicode character but a single byte.
09:42:35FromDiscord<jabuci> Thanks, that must be it. If I want to store a Unicode char, should I use a string?
09:42:45FromDiscord<lainlaylie> yes
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10:11:41Amun-Ralainlaylie: https://nim-lang.org/docs/unicode.html
10:45:31FromDiscord<lainlaylie> thanks?
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16:47:26FromDiscord<heysokam> Is anyone here somewhat acquainted with the `nim-lang/nimony` repo/project?↵Trying to understand what the benefits are of having an extra layer between gdb/lldb and nim code↵https://github.com/nim-lang/nimony/blob/master/doc/nifc-spec.md
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16:51:18FromDiscord<nervecenter> In reply to @heysokam "Is anyone here somewhat": Best to discuss that in #internals, Araq has discussed it at length in the forums and in Github issues.
16:52:29FromDiscord<heysokam> In reply to @nervecenter "Best to discuss that": I'd rather not being called out for making genuine questions about the internals again↵I'd rather not get my question answered than touch that channel
16:53:03FromDiscord<heysokam> If you have a link to the discussions, I'd be keen to read it
17:03:16FromDiscord<nervecenter> I wasn't trying to attack you and I don't know your knowledge of the subject. My own is limited and I'm just pointing out that Araq is the driver of the project and its philosophy. I have no idea who else you could talk to or where.
17:04:54FromDiscord<nervecenter> Here's one active thread: https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/12693
17:07:13FromDiscord<heysokam> In reply to @nervecenter "I wasn't trying to": No, sorry I explained myself wrong. It's not you↵I meant I'd rather not touch that channel, because I'd get called out for making questions, as it has happened multiple times before in there
17:07:20FromDiscord<heysokam> My bad
17:07:52FromDiscord<heysokam> As for my question, I think I found the answer: ↵> As for the debugging, all the transformations and tools keep column-precise line information and name mangling information, a debugger can be written to make good use of that. However, I expect in practice we'll just use NIFC-to-LLVM instead of NIFC-to-C and get the typical debugging experience of all the other compiled languages.
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17:18:52FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @heysokam "Is anyone here somewhat": the extra layer is between Nim and C in general, no? But benefit is incremental recompilation and allows for cleaner separation of data and logic
17:21:11FromDiscord<heysokam> In reply to @battery.acid.bubblegum "the extra layer is": but, as that link explains, nim outputs nimc, not C... so you get an extra layer in between gdb and nim (aka nimc)
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17:21:39FromDiscord<heysokam> right now there is 1 layer, and it has awful DX
17:22:22FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> you mean nifc?
17:23:01FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> that extra info is to help optimise Nim -> Nifc codegen output to be used for C codegen
17:23:03FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Iirc
17:24:20FromDiscord<heysokam> ah yea, mispelled. I meant `nifc` with an f
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17:51:02FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> also it means the AST can be saved to/loaded from disk much easier
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21:15:53FromDiscord<aintea> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=XMROlVJT
21:16:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That should be `T: Animal`
21:17:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Otherwise you can only have 1 `into` and it's not really generic
21:18:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> One thing is you cannot do `p.into[Animal]()` and need to do `p.into[: Animal]() so perhaps `into(p\: person, T\: typedesc[Animal])\: T\` is the way to go
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