<< 03-11-2015 >>
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00:11:23makoLine=)
00:11:24makoLinethought better of it this time.
00:11:24makoLinesome other time, I'm sure.
00:12:57Araqdid you see my reply to your --const feature request?
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00:21:37makoLineYes, I think you're completely right. It would make more sense for a project to document some kind of compilation configuration file than to have these checks that would fail mysteriously at compile time if the user wasn't passing in the right set of variables.
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08:55:12Araqhi
08:56:44antoniomohi :)
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12:20:40bblAraq: btw, with --verbosity:0 I get a lot of warnings and hints from imported files: lib/nim/pure/nativesockets.nim(15, 8) Warning: unsigned is deprecated [Deprecated]
12:20:58Araq--verbsosity:0 doesn't imply --hints:off
12:23:24bblAraq: still there are warnings and I would like to get hints from my own files, not from the dependencies
12:23:51bbllike from nim standard lib
12:23:59Araqyeah we know it's a problem but now that 0.12.0 is out, we can fix these deprecations I think
12:24:14AraqPRs welcome
12:24:18bblhehe
12:27:01Araqbbl
12:31:36bblAraq: with "http://example.com".getContent.newStringStream. it doesn't find parseHtml as a suggestion if I have httpclient imported
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12:34:16bblAraq: I just understood the thing with going to imported files... gf (go file) goes to the module with some black magic
12:34:25OnOAraq: I was once thinking maybe Nim shouldn't emit warnings from feorign modules, I mean these whose paths come from not current project?
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12:35:56OnOalso I think we should treat warnings in Nim core libraries as errors
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12:37:26bblAraq: seems indeed like it worked with idetools
12:37:50bblnim.vim uses idetools with the goto functionality...
12:42:16bblvar node: XmlNode = "http://example.com".getContent.newStringStream.parseHtml
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12:42:51bblnext line node. gives me one completion that is the variable itself
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13:31:23bblAraq: the serious problem with nimsuggest you described seems to be real
13:31:59bblIt indeed gives me old completions some times
13:32:09bblit does that without the dirtyfile too
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14:45:21bblAraq: is there a compiler option to reduce stacktraces to one line
14:45:45bblI would like to show compiler errors in the editor when editing static code
14:46:22Araqthe compiler produces error messages, not stack traces
14:46:40bblAraq: when I run code in static block, it's a stack trace :P
14:47:29bblstatic: assert true == false # gives 5 lines
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14:55:18Araqyou should rather find more space in your editor to show the stack trace
14:55:52AraqI cannot imagine users appreciate to get more cryptic error messages just because VIM think a single line suffices
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15:17:55ephjathat's the default anyway
15:18:01ephjaand the defaults aren't exactly sensible
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15:51:06yglukhovGuys, need a little help with async, await and httpclient. Basically I'm doing a blocking http request in a background thread, and sometimes the request call hangs. Am i missing something obvious?
15:51:38yglukhovtcpdump shows that server responds.
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16:01:21Araqyglukhov: sorry, I'm busy, will help you in 2 or 3 hours ok?
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16:04:47yglukhovsure, i was actually hoping that dom96 could give me a hint ;)
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16:31:30yglukhovattached with debugger. and it shows that the requesting thread is in BAD_ACCESS state. no clue why it doesn't crash the program. the BAD_ACCESS is likely because GetThreadLocalVars returned something inappropriate.
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16:36:47bblAraq: fair enough
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18:19:20gokrHey guys
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18:25:32Araqhi gokr
18:25:43gokrHey!
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18:27:01gokrHow did it go in OSCON? It was... late october, right?
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18:32:30Araqquite well, people were interested in Nim, my presentation was interesting afaict and many people liked our stickers
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19:34:33Varriount-LaptopAraq: I've probably asked this before, but why does nimsuggest close the TCP connection after a single command?
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19:50:44mat4hello
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19:52:31bblVarriount-Laptop: Is there anything bad with that approach? It's easier to write clients
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20:05:42mat4I'm search for a template defination declaring side effect free functions
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20:06:39bblmat4: http://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#pragmas-nosideeffect-pragma
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20:09:47mat4thanks
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21:05:26Araqvarriount: because that's the way it signals that the request has been completed? sockets suck, they don't give you a protocol; you can only hack a decent protocol on top of it
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21:53:57ephjadoesn't seem like much of a hack to me
21:54:26makoLineWe talking about the domain of socket.io and the like? Everyone is a poseur except WAMP, IMO.
21:54:44ephjabut that's a useful message terminator
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23:34:40ephjawhat's fowl up to?
23:35:39robNewbhello nimheads, i have an unusual question as a consequence of somewhat unusuall usage for nim i presume, the question is, is that a place sutible for questions and help requests ? or is it a more of a kind of a chat room for social meetings ?
23:36:55ephjaanything related to nim, really
23:39:44robNewbi am planning to lay on nim as the main horsepower generator in my applications, i have chosen nim after some long research on different languages (till now i am using c# for most of my work)
23:42:51robNewbso untill i will be more familiar with the nim language i am trying /testing interop with dll's created via nim, so far it looks very nice approach very welcoming syntax, and as far as i had chance to benchmark, it's quite fast, even compared to c++
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23:43:04hvzeoh shit new nick whatever
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23:43:41hvzeAraq: is there like a reflections api or something?
23:45:24Araqthere is marshal.nim and typeinfo.nim
23:45:46Araqbut this is only about data, not code. for code you can either
23:46:03Araq* rely on DLL loading like you already do
23:46:34Araq* use a macro to annotate the exposed procs so that they can be looked up by name
23:49:13hvzeWhich is the more reliable?
23:51:03robNewbi have an issue with an implamentation i got from nim forum by posted as an answer by @filwit so if it's ok i could paste the link so you could see what i am refering to or i could continue in stack overflow if this is not the best place for this
23:51:33hvzethis is probably the better place
23:51:44robNewbok ..
23:52:09Araqnow I'm confused
23:52:24AraqI thought hvze and robNewb are the same person ...
23:52:39hvzelmao
23:52:53AraqrobNewb: ask me, I know everything
23:53:08Araqhvze: well both are reliable but they do different things
23:53:55AraqI usually suggest the macro approach though
23:54:26robNewb#filwit sugested on my question a very good implemetation which is very fast (excuse me and my slow english writing Araq) http://forum.nim-lang.org/t/1736
23:56:12robNewbaraq i am new as u can clearly see... i have followed some posts while searching for answers as i study nim
23:56:27robNewbso for aroud 72 hours
23:57:28robNewbof googling around, i qustiond my self, who is this Aaraq, is it an AI or a person
23:57:58ephjanobody knows
23:58:25Araqyou have a fetish for long introductions, don't you?
23:58:35ephja:-)
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23:59:45Araqwell ... I don't bite. Feel free to actually ask your question when you're ready.
23:59:46robNewbi wish i could had 10% of your professional experience