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| 03:54:25 | onionhammer | Varriount found a job? :D |
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| 04:02:57 | Varriount | onionhammer: Maybe. |
| 04:04:00 | Varriount | onionhammer: Regarding NimLime, all it needs is this one last command for setting up the internal NimLime executable. |
| 04:04:19 | Xe | why doesn't the irc module support SSL connections? |
| 04:04:54 | Varriount | Xe: Probably because there isn't any code in it to support SSL connections. |
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| 08:03:53 | gokr | Araq: PHP? |
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| 08:54:28 | vegansk | How I miss ``nim secret``. Long live the REPL! |
| 08:57:47 | vegansk | Oops! I thought it was removed, but it was a typo in command line ^-) |
| 09:07:27 | Araq | gokr: it's an experiment. we got lots of PHP here unfortunately and want to use Nim instead ;-) |
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| 09:38:21 | gokr | Araq: Hehe. |
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| 09:38:56 | Araq | but we won't officially support it. I don't even intend to document it. |
| 09:38:57 | gokr | Araq: I got my travis going for Ni, but I needed to upgrade GCC to 4.8 in my travis.yml to get Nim to build properly. |
| 09:39:13 | Araq | I thought this issue was fixed with 0.13 |
| 09:39:27 | gokr | Hmmm... |
| 09:40:09 | gokr | I use master and devel, it failed on master for me I think. |
| 09:41:23 | gokr | Ah, let me correct that. Nim built fine, but it failed building Ni. |
| 09:42:16 | gokr | http://pastebin.com/HEjySBL4 |
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| 09:49:37 | Araq | ah yeah, that would be some work to support. old GCCs don't have the proper atomic instructions |
| 09:56:56 | gokr | But it worked fine with 4.8 so I am good :) |
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| 19:02:06 | Gretz | Would it be too difficult to implement (at least partially) Rust traits with macros? I have never used metaprogramming (just some really basic scheme) |
| 19:03:12 | reactormonk | Gretz, what do they do? There's concepts |
| 19:03:20 | Gretz | So I think it could be a nice project to implement my favorite Rust feature in Nim |
| 19:03:51 | Gretz | You can use them as polymorphic types |
| 19:04:11 | Gretz | I'm not complaining about Nim... |
| 19:04:51 | reactormonk | Gretz, not sure what traits do in rust exactly. I guess they compare to concepts, that's why I mentioned them. |
| 19:05:27 | Gretz | But I would like to start a project to understand how programming languages work better |
| 19:06:21 | Gretz | So I'm asking because I don't know anything on the topic |
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| 19:21:44 | Varriount | Araq: Oh goodness, you're planning to build a PHP backend? |
| 19:21:53 | Varriount | That can only end in disaster. |
| 19:22:49 | Araq | no, I already built one. |
| 19:23:14 | Araq | but relax, it's not officially supported anytime soon and I won't document it either |
| 19:24:53 | Varriount | Araq: Good. General use of something like that can only end in computers blowing up and people's faces melting off their skulls. |
| 19:27:57 | Araq | it's based on the JS codegen and might evolve into a "general high level language codegen" whatever that means |
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| 19:29:06 | Araq | but I dunno. New crap keeps getting thrown at me, for instance for an IntelliJ-Plugin I would like to have a Nim-to-Java codegen... |
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| 19:40:59 | dunpeal | Hi. Nim looks pretty neat, but is anyone using it in production? |
| 19:43:57 | federico3 | dunpeal: give it another 5 years |
| 19:45:57 | dunpeal | I don't have 5 years. I have new projects waiting to be done right now :> |
| 19:50:16 | Varriount | dunpeal: It is being used in production systems (or at least, several members here and on the forum have mentioned it) however there are no big 'public' examples. |
| 19:50:58 | Varriount | EG, no famous company website proudly exhorting the use of Nim in their systems. |
| 19:54:20 | Varriount | Araq: Didn't you say a Nim-To-Java codegen would be too much work? |
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| 19:57:39 | Araq | yeah I'm talking about source-to-source translators |
| 19:58:11 | Araq | so it would translate the Nim parser and lexer into Java and I end up with an 80% solution that I can tweak afterwards |
| 19:59:39 | Varriount | Ah, so not Java bytecode output. |
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| 20:02:37 | ephja | nim to * |
| 20:06:03 | Varriount | ephja: Nim to Malbolge? |
| 20:07:01 | ephja | yeah why not |
| 20:08:39 | Varriount | ephja: Have you seen malbolge? |
| 20:13:52 | ephja | yep |
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| 20:32:07 | Varriount | Araq: Good news - I found a less system-wide way of disabling the Windows Error Reporting 'feature' for the test suite. |
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| 20:40:11 | mahasamoot | I'm trying to do sum u32 +%, -%, /% and it keeps telling me it's a type mismatch? I RTFMed, what gives? |
| 20:40:52 | federico3 | is anyone else aware of https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/3823 : koch web fails to build. dom96 maybe ? |
| 20:43:30 | mahasamoot | http://pastebin.com/WszE0fLD, I'm trying to port a little program from python as a learning exercise. Can I get any tips? |
| 20:44:34 | federico3 | mahasamoot: why using uint32? |
| 20:45:08 | mahasamoot | because my max is 2**32 |
| 20:45:47 | mahasamoot | which is ridicules and unnecessary, but seemed like fun at the time. |
| 20:45:52 | federico3 | except ValueError ? |
| 20:46:09 | mahasamoot | well... that's still python |
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| 20:48:43 | ephja | yes it's a type match, because there are only overloads for IntMax32 and int64 |
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| 20:50:30 | mahasamoot | so how do I fix it? just never ever use unsigned ints because it can't be added, subtracted, mul, or div'ed? |
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| 20:51:25 | ephja | mahasamoot: are you using an older version where such operations are defined in the 'unsigned' module? |
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| 20:51:44 | mahasamoot | 0.16 |
| 20:51:50 | ephja | preferably upgrade to 0.13.0, but if you can't then import unsigned |
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| 20:51:52 | ephja | huh |
| 20:52:47 | mahasamoot | no, I meant 0.13... I guess I'm getting ahead of myself |
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| 20:53:28 | mahasamoot | Nim Compiler Version 0.13.0 (2016-02-01) [Linux: amd64] |
| 20:53:38 | ephja | they were moved after that? or maybe the operations haven't been moved yet |
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| 20:54:44 | mahasamoot | Warning: unsigned is deprecated [Deprecated], and then the same error |
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| 20:55:53 | ephja | yes, and those operations should be imported implicitly since they are located in the system module now |
| 20:56:07 | ephja | "echo 1u32 + 1u32" yep, works |
| 20:58:14 | mahasamoot | I just tried that, and got the same error |
| 20:59:00 | mahasamoot | I thought I had the latest version, should I upgrade to a nightly, or something? |
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| 21:03:48 | mahasamoot | I'm compiling the devel branch now |
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| 21:23:52 | ephja | you said 0.13.0, and you got a deprecation warning. apparently it was merged in july |
| 21:26:35 | ephja | so I dunno what is going on |
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| 22:15:23 | kier | hi guys, I'm declaring a big array (30K elements) but getting an OverflowError when I try to access it. Do I need to initialise the array, and if so, how? |
| 22:17:00 | kier | ah ignore that, I just didn't understand the semantics of array indices |
| 22:23:02 | def- | kier: hi. if you have a really big array, you might want to put it on the heap instead of stack btw |
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| 23:00:00 | kier | def-: cheers. how would I go about doing that? would I just use a ref? |
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| 23:06:16 | Xe | what is the difference between a macro and a template? |
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| 23:09:26 | def- | kier: right, or a seq |
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| 23:11:21 | def- | Xe: both are at compile time, templates are less powerful, like text substitution (but on the AST). macros are more powerful, you can analyze the passed parameters and output any kind of AST you want |
| 23:12:38 | def- | and for the sake of simplicity you should always use the least powerful construct that works for a job |
| 23:13:56 | Xe | mm |
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| 23:15:16 | Xe | i see, thanks def- |
| 23:15:55 | Sornaensis | Xe |
| 23:15:59 | Sornaensis | so noble |
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| 23:34:19 | kier | def-: ah, thanks for the help :) |
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