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00:14:57FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> well i throw in the towel
00:15:35FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> Final error
00:15:35FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> https://hastebin.com/sacigelexi.coffeescript
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00:38:08shashlickHmm
00:38:23shashlickWhat version of gcc did you go to
00:38:28shashlickNeed to check on that file
00:46:05FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> idk i went back to linux after cryin in the corner
00:53:47shashlickSorry :)
00:53:59shashlickI can build for you
00:55:06shashlickOr you can try Travis
00:55:20shashlickWhere did you get your cmake and what version was it
00:55:27FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> from cmake
00:55:32FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> i dont r ecall
00:55:33FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> i dont recall
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00:58:09shashlickOk well
01:02:29FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> Travis supports nim?
01:02:47shashlickUse the script I sent
01:02:52shashlickIt installs Nim
01:02:57shashlickAnd other stuff needed
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01:18:47FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> well seems to be going well
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01:39:37shashlickCool
01:41:07FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> although i dont know how to get the build so 😄
01:41:55shashlickYou can post releases onto github
01:42:53FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> yea im sure i could, if i had a modicum of idea how to do that 😛
01:45:23shashlickLet me share an example
01:45:57shashlickhttps://github.com/genotrance/feud/blob/master/.travis.yml#L40
01:46:17shashlickThe api key needs to be set in the project config in Travis
01:46:55shashlickHere's the choosenim example
01:46:58shashlickhttps://github.com/dom96/choosenim/blob/master/.travis.yml#L41
01:48:38FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> i assume you mean as a environmental variable
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02:28:32FromDiscord<Rika> I don't think he did
02:29:32FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> I mean it worked so idk
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02:48:00shashlickYes in the config, secret of course
02:48:59disruptekwell, not anymore.
02:50:53FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> now how about making a archive on deploy? 😄
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03:12:23shashlickSee the feud yml
03:12:41shashlickZip it on success
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03:30:01FromDiscord<Winton> next project of mine 😄
03:30:04FromDiscord<Winton> help me dude
03:30:31FromDiscord<Winton> Someone has some library knowledge, I want to download through the URL youtube mp3
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03:31:00disruptekwhotube?
03:31:19FromDiscord<Winton> youtube
03:31:33FromDiscord<Winton> through the url, download extension mp3
03:31:36disruptekis that like redtube?
03:31:39FromDiscord<Winton> convert mp
03:31:55FromDiscord<Winton> redtube mmm wait
03:32:26FromDiscord<Winton> jajjaja not
03:32:39FromDiscord<Winton> https://ytmp3.cc/en13/
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03:36:48leorizeif you don't mind some dependencies, youtube_dl is a great way to get audio without having to interact with 3rd party services
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03:52:33FromDiscord<Winton> haa ok
03:52:45FromDiscord<Winton> thx
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04:43:24FromDiscord<Rika> Does nim have a functional programming module on github? If not I'm interested in making one
04:44:28FromDiscord<Rika> !repo functional
04:44:30disbothttps://github.com/h3rald/min -- 9min: 11A tiny concatenative programming language and shell 15 146⭐ 7🍴 7& 11 more...
04:44:37FromDiscord<Rika> Hmm
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04:45:30FromDiscord<Rika> Ah, there is, but it's not what I envisioned
04:45:36FromDiscord<Rika> Time to make my own then
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04:46:12disruptek!repo zero-functional
04:46:14disbothttps://github.com/zero-functional/zero-functional -- 9zero-functional: 11A library providing zero-cost chaining for functional abstractions in Nim. 15 122⭐ 7🍴 7& 29 more...
04:46:53disruptekmove your head closer to the router; i'm finding your vision quite fuzzy at this distance.
04:46:58FromDiscord<Rika> Still not really what I want
04:47:14FromDiscord<Rika> I'll think of extending zf then
04:47:19FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> Disruptek have you tried squinting, might be a you side problem
04:48:27disruptekit's all black and white. very little contrast. can you turn the Vert knob 65° counter-clockwise and the Horiz knob about 13° clockwise?
04:48:39FromDiscord<Rika> Okay
04:48:52disruptekyou don't have to get it right on the money; even a little bit will help.
04:49:50FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> sorry i only got tau/6 and tau/30
04:49:51disruptekno, i mean a little bit on Horiz. Vert does need to turn way more.
04:49:58FromDiscord<Rika> Sometimes I truly wonder whether disruptek is sane or not
04:50:12disruptekokay, stop fiddling with it. it's worse than it was, even.
04:50:15disrupteklet me do it.
04:50:19disruptekjust let me do it, jesus.
04:50:27FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> sorry your auth seems off
04:50:34FromDiscord<Rika> Lol
04:50:34FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> Try using a package overhere
04:50:38FromDiscord<Rika> What a grudge
04:51:06FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> I mean hopefully disruptek knows i dont have an ill will towards him
04:52:25disruptekjust once i want someone to know what "counter-clockwise" means.
04:52:28disrupteki mean, fuck.
04:52:34disruptek"lefty-loosey"
04:52:37disruptekdoes that shit help?
04:52:44FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> it's called positive rotation
04:52:47FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> and negative rotation
04:52:52disruptekmake a fucking L with your hand or something.
04:53:03disrupteki don't even know anymore.
04:53:09FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> What's an L look like again
04:53:14disruptekwhat the hell are they teaching your people in school?
04:53:15FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> Isnt that the bluetooth symbole?
04:53:21FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> symbol*
04:53:29FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> "My people" wow what a racist
04:53:33FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> Bannerino
04:53:54disruptekit's all a'boot the benjamins.
04:54:22FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> wow mister midwest, probably doesnt even know what healthcare is
04:56:23FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> Also why the fuck is it called the midwest, if it's in the mid, it's also mideast, it's middle
04:58:04kungtotteIt's called the midwest because it's part way to 'the west', because of the eurocentrist perspective that the US was colonised from the east coast towards the west coast.
04:58:34kungtotteSame reason why you'd say you're "half way to <DESTINATION>" when you're travelling as opposed to "half way to <ORIGIN>"
04:59:46FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> Well thanks for the answer but it wasnt sincere
05:19:30disrupteki'm pretty sure he meant every word.
05:20:50disruptekkungtotte: don't listen to beef, buddy, i believe you.
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05:21:21FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> I meant my question wasnt sincere
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06:23:05shashlickNeed some good answers - https://www.reddit.com/r/nim/comments/fd3dcs/does_nim_have_any_kind_of_protection_against_data/
06:34:43FromDiscord<Rika> Idts
06:36:20leorize@mratsim: ^
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06:48:12silvernodeI am trying to figure out how to create a proc that takes a seq but 'proc myproc(items: seq[string]):' is giving errors
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06:52:46leorizesilvernode: that's... how you'd do it?
06:52:57leorizewhat errors are you having?
06:53:55silvernodeError: expression expected, but found 'keyword for'
06:54:05silvernodetrying to put a for loop in the proc
06:54:39silvernodeout of time though, need to come back to this later. Goodnight everyone.
06:54:41narimiransilvernode: show us all of your code, preferably using https://play.nim-lang.org/
06:54:59narimiranahhh, i know
06:55:11narimiranyou used `:`, and you should have used `=`
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07:37:23muffindrakeIs there a short-hand to clear (i.e. delete) all elements of a seq, or are you supposed to just make a new seq?
07:40:12muffindrakeOh, I suppose 's = @[]' does what I expect?
07:40:31narimiranmuffindrake: maybe `s.setLen(0)`?
07:41:20muffindrakeThat should be fine, too. Thanks!
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08:22:56leorizesetLen is more efficient
08:23:04leorizeit wouldn't free the memory though
08:25:04PMunchWhat do you mean, of course it would free the memory
08:25:23PMunchYou can also do `reset s`
08:25:46PMunchOh wait, no it actually wouldn't..
08:26:07FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> the capacity stays the same, the length is reduced
08:26:11PMunchOr would it? Under what conditions does a seq shrink its capacity?
08:26:19PMunchOr does it ever?
08:26:29leorize[m]it never shrinks
08:26:32FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> I assume only when you tell it to
08:26:40FromDiscord<Elegant Beef> If you even can
08:26:51PMunchI mean you can do s = newSeqOfCap()
08:26:57PMunchOr as I said `reset s`
08:27:02leorize[m]set it to an empty seq
08:27:17leorize[m]or yea, reset works
08:27:23PMunchReset essentially does what the initialisation does, and it works for every type :)
08:28:26leorize[m]actually reset it mapped to destroy :p
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08:54:21PMunchHmm, and what does destroy do?
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08:58:17leorizeit's mapped to `=destroy`
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08:58:56leorizefor strings/seqs it zeros out all fields and free all memory
08:59:28PMunchOh, it explicitly frees it? Not just leave it for the GC?
09:00:02PMunchBut cool, so reset will run any destructor as well, that's nice
09:00:09leorizestrings v2 is no longer gc-based
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09:36:19PMunchNot sure if everyone caught this, but the final Nim talk by mratsim is finally up: https://mirror.as35701.net/video.fosdem.org/2020/AW1.125/nimultralowoverheadruntime.mp4
09:37:28FromDiscord<exelotl> ayyy
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10:04:32Araqwe could discuss https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/11776 and https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/12862 here
10:04:34disbot➥ The Defect exceptions are not consistently tracked ; snippet at 12https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=23Zp
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10:10:27PMunchOh wow, that's a long discussion to catch up on
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10:11:36AraqI'll write another proposal, I think
10:14:39Araqspoiler: in the end the fix is a single export marker for 'sysFatal'
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10:59:22FromDiscord<mratsim> My FOSDEM talk has been released yesterday! I'm not too sure what happened in the review process, I only had like 1 hour to review it at 11PM before it was released at midnight (cc @Pmunch): https://video.fosdem.org/2020/AW1.125/nimultralowoverheadruntime.webm
11:01:49Araqmratsim: maybe now we can get some discussion going about exceptions? :P
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11:17:46FromDiscord<mratsim> I'd rather not, if you look into the Status libp2p discord channel, the past 3 days have been about async exceptions handling. It's like a bomb that distracts everyone ;), feel free to read this: https://github.com/status-im/nim-chronos/issues/81
11:17:48disbot➥ Async procedures and Defects.
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11:24:34Araq:-)
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12:05:55PMunch@mratsim, wait really? I thought the videos were just pending until the reviewer was done
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12:07:35PMunchHmm, looks like something weird might've happened, I can't see that I've gotten an e-mail about the first review. So that might've been lost and someone manually sent you one prompting you to review it with a timeframe
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12:45:22FromDiscord<Bawbby> quick q: I'm trying to use a header only librariy, stb_image.h and i'm wondering if I can use it without having a c file with just an include.
12:46:26FromDiscord<Bawbby> https://github.com/define-private-public/stb_image-Nim
12:47:18FromDiscord<Bawbby> i've seen this library, probably will use it any ways. but i'm just wondering if I can just use the header only and no c files.
12:47:19Araqyes
12:47:43Araquse .header pragmas and you should be fine
12:49:07FromDiscord<Bawbby> would I do it like this? {.header: "stb_image.h} proc stbi_function(...): ...
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12:51:47PMunchproc stbi_function(...): ... {.header: "stb_image.h", importc.}
12:52:23PMunchhttps://livebook.manning.com/book/nim-in-action/chapter-8/37
12:53:46FromDiscord<Bawbby> Il'll try that out, thanks.
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13:25:43Araqwhat the ...
13:25:50Araq"The compiler attempts to inline the function, regardless of the characteristics of the function.
13:25:50AraqIn some circumstances the compiler may choose to ignore the __attribute__((always_inline)) attribute and not inline a function. For example:
13:25:50AraqA recursive function is never inlined into itself.
13:25:50AraqFunctions making use of alloca() are never inlined."
13:26:12Araqso 'always_inline' doesn't always inline, wtf
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13:26:33Araqwhat's the point then? there is already "inline, sometimes, maybe"
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13:35:29FromDiscord<mratsim> @PMunch, I didn't even have time to review the video
13:35:41FromDiscord<mratsim> the review request was sent at 11PM and the release at midnight
13:36:23PMunch@mratsim, huh that is weird
13:36:38FromDiscord<mratsim> @Araq, I read this as well, I'm not sure. For me static indicates to the compiler that the proc is defined in the same compilation unit so can easily be inlined
13:36:44FromDiscord<mratsim> extern inline seems really strange
13:37:03PMunchI had plenty of time to review mine. But as I said I think the initial notification got lost somewhere, and what you got was basically a "this is the final warning, review or we'll just release it as-is".
13:37:04FromDiscord<mratsim> that would probably requires extra passes by GCC to find the definitions
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14:22:21FromDiscord<Varriount> @mratsim static is one of those terms that means different things across programming languages
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14:25:27alexander92hey guys
14:25:43alexander92gitter is not connected again since maybe yesterday
14:25:58alexander92i guess we might need to put our own bot
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14:35:23PMunchWho controls the Gitter bot?
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14:44:08lqdev[m]Araq: I wonder why it doesn't error out instead of doing something retarded. but I guess that's just how C is
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14:44:51lqdev[m]well, maybe it's not retarded, but the compiler *really* wants your code to get compiled
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14:47:44Araqlqdev[m], well it's GCC, not C, C doesn't have always_inline
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15:00:00alexander92PMunch no idea
15:00:04alexander92i think the crystal guys
15:00:10alexander92but i might be wrong
15:00:40PMunchThe crystal guys control our Gitter bot?
15:00:53PMunchOh wait, we're not running our own instance?
15:02:21alexander92i dont remember, i think they have written/maintained one gitter/irc bot
15:02:49alexander92https://github.com/oprypin/critter ?
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15:13:55FromDiscord<mratsim> Yes it's oprypin
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15:30:29FromDiscord<Bawbby> I'm having issues with creating bindings to a header library (stb_image.h)
15:30:46FromDiscord<Bawbby> my function decl is as so: proc stbi_load*(filename: cstring, x, y, channels_in_file: var cint, desired_channels: cint): ptr cuchar {.header: "stb_image.h", importc.}
15:31:22FromDiscord<Bawbby> I try to use it but I get a link error.
15:31:44FromDiscord<Varriount> @Bawbby Looks like you need to add a calling convention?
15:32:22FromDiscord<Varriount> `cdecl` is usually the convention for C library calls
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15:32:58leorize!repo stb-image
15:33:00disbothttps://github.com/acolley/nim-stb-image -- 9nim-stb-image: 11A Nimrod wrapper for the excellent stb_image library. 15 0⭐ 0🍴
15:33:45leorizeah disbot can't do gitlab
15:33:47leorizehttps://gitlab.com/define-private-public/stb_image-Nim
15:33:52FromDiscord<Bawbby> I changed the pragma to: {.header: "stb_image.h", importc, cdecl.} but still get a link error
15:34:50FromDiscord<Bawbby> I've seen that library leorize, but I'm just trying to get around needing a c file with an include
15:34:56FromDiscord<Varriount> What's the error?
15:35:35FromDiscord<Bawbby> dir\to\nim_game_d\@mnim_game.nim.c.o:@mnim_game.nim.c:(.text+0x3ce): undefined reference to `stbi_load'
15:35:40FromDiscord<clyybber> @Bawbby You are gonna need the c file too, with header: "stb_image.h" ?
15:36:18leorizestb_image is a header-only library
15:36:30FromDiscord<Bawbby> can nim not use header libs without needing a c file?
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15:37:13FromDiscord<clyybber> what? But std_image is a header only library
15:37:20FromDiscord<clyybber> *stb
15:37:37leorizenim should be able to handle this
15:37:44FromDiscord<Varriount> https://github.com/nothings/stb/issues/3#issuecomment-45367323
15:37:46disbot➥ unresolved external symbol _stbi_load ; snippet at 12https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2dnA
15:37:55FromDiscord<mratsim> either you use an C-file like what stb_image-Nim does or you use some currentSourcePath + passC -I hack like this header only wrapper: https://github.com/status-im/nim-ttmath/blob/master/src/ttmath.nim#L4-L5
15:39:22FromDiscord<mratsim> an intermediate C-file*
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15:44:03FromDiscord<Bawbby> hmm, ok. I'll use a c-file then if there is no way without a hack.
15:44:15FromDiscord<Bawbby> thanks for the help.
15:45:09lqdev[m]actually, it should be possible using .emit
15:45:22lqdev[m]to not use a C file
15:45:32disruptekdisbot knows about nimble packages via !package(s)
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15:51:08FromDiscord<clyybber> @Bawbby But using a c-file is the opposite of a hack
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15:51:18FromDiscord<clyybber> its how you *should* do it
15:51:33FromDiscord<clyybber> unless you want to dynamically link
15:51:49disruptek#13436
15:51:49disbothttps://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/13436 -- 3cpp --gc:arc --exceptions:goto fails to raise with discard
15:52:11FromDiscord<clyybber> which in this case is a bad idea, since I don't think any repo distributes shared libraries of the stb_* libs
15:52:17disruptekexceptions:goto is not default with cpp+arc. 🐼
15:52:35clyybberyeah it is only with c + arc
15:53:00disrupteksuprise!
15:53:25disrupteksuuuuprise, mofo!
15:54:27alexander92isnt the whole arc thing still experimental
15:55:12disruptekif we don't experiment with it, then no, it's not even that.
15:55:52alexander92it can be just mental
15:56:01disruptekoh, it's mental alright.
15:56:18alexander92thats some kind of slang right
15:56:20alexander92i knew it
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15:56:37disruptekthe kids say, `metal` now.
15:56:37shashlick@Bawbby: check out how I wrapped a header only lib - https://github.com/genotrance/feud/blob/master/wrappers/fuzzy.nim
15:56:49shashlickNo c file required
15:57:36lqdev[m]btw does .passC work only for the specific file it is used in?
15:57:50shashlickIt is global
15:58:22FromDiscord<mratsim> use {.localpassC:"-foo".}
16:00:43FromDiscord<mratsim> @Bawbby it's a hack because currentSourcePath wasn't suppose to be used like that, but that's the only sane way to handle header-only C++ libraries in my opinion
16:03:15clyybbershashlick: No C file required as in we download it :p
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16:10:15disruptekaraq will stream some stuff.
16:10:23disruptekget ready for incremental compilation wisdom.
16:10:38Araqoh you announced it
16:10:44Araqso now there is no way back
16:11:05disruptekyep.
16:15:32shashlickclyybber? We only download the header
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16:16:26narimiran(shashlick, have you seen my PM? :))
16:16:48shashlickYep
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18:39:17ozAh looks like the matrix bridge is off again.
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18:56:05FromDiscord<clyybber> shashlick: But stb_image is a header only library
18:56:28FromDiscord<clyybber> Bawbby meant the header itself with C file
18:57:38FromDiscord<clyybber> Wait, you are even wrapping a header only lib there? Of course you are only downloading the header then.
18:58:31shashlickFuzzy is also a header only lib
18:58:41shashlickYou don't need a C file is what I was saying
18:59:46dadadaa button on play.nim-lang.org for expanding all macros would be nice, could help people learn macros or even debug
19:04:09disruptekmacros.expandMacros: ...
19:05:18FromDiscord<clyybber> shashlick: You mean a .c file right? Bawbby meant the .h file with "C file" I suppose
19:06:52shashlickOk I thought he was saying he had to create a C file with #include header and my point was that it wasn't needed
19:07:26FromDiscord<clyybber> Ah okay
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19:29:41FromDiscord<clyybber> Araq: Lol, amazing that VSCode does that line jumping thing
19:29:54FromDiscord<clyybber> depending on the terminal window
19:29:55FromDiscord<clyybber> hahaha
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19:30:49disruptekwhat?
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19:31:14FromDiscord<clyybber> you missed it on stream 😄
19:35:24disrupteki still don't really have muscle-memory for opening files in vim. i think because the normal auto-find-file-like-blah doesn't work for me 100% of the time.
19:35:45FromDiscord<clyybber> disruptek: At 6:00
19:35:56disruptekbut it's about the only thing i (vaguely) like about vscode; its terminal-clicky-clicky-boom-it's-loaded thing.
19:43:41FromDiscord<Varriount> disruptek: I like VSCode, I just wish it didn't use 3+ processes and half a gigabyte to run
19:44:27disruptekif you like it, i don't think there are any good reasons not to suffer half a gig of memory use.
19:44:39disruptekto me, that's just not impactful enough to worry about it.
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19:53:19FromDiscord<Bawbby> status update: Was able to get stb_image to work with no extra c file by using the emit pragma
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19:53:48FromDiscord<Bawbby> using the #define STB_IMAGE_IMPLEMENTATION and #include "stb_image.h" in the emit
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19:55:00Araqbetter might have been a multi-line .header pragma
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20:05:50dadadaI tried to see if I could add support for rust style mut (nim var to rust mut)
20:05:57dadadahttps://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2dp7
20:06:12dadadaseems like it's not possible with macros
20:06:45dadadaam still a beginner when it comes to macros
20:06:50dadadathough
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20:07:26dadadaif you ask why, 1) for fun 2) because I think mut is more descriptive
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20:11:50shashlick@Bawbby did you see the example I sent?
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20:18:26dadadaexpandMacros on https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2dp7 shows that the mut macro isn't expanded in the test proc, but the macro is processed with the int parameter, is this a bug?
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20:20:33dadadahttps://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2dpd (with expandMacros)
20:21:43FromDiscord<Bawbby> I've saw your example, I'd rather not use flags.
20:22:15FromDiscord<Bawbby> Does this download the header at compile time? Didn't know you could do that.
20:23:20FromDiscord<Varriount> @Bawbby You could make Nim run rm -rf / at compile time if you want
20:24:07FromDiscord<Bawbby> oh
20:24:08FromDiscord<Bawbby> oh dear
20:24:35FromDiscord<Varriount> >:D
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20:24:59dadadaVarriount: rm -rf / does exactly nothing just in case you didn't know ... it's not allowed :D
20:25:09dadadaeven for root
20:25:27FromDiscord<Varriount> What about with /* ?
20:25:28FromDiscord<Bawbby> how is that prevented?
20:26:09FromDiscord<Bawbby> does nim error? or remove anything with rm?
20:26:12shashlick@Bawbby you can use passC for the #define
20:26:33shashlickAnd the include isn't needed if you are wrapping the header
20:26:34dadadaBawbby: prevention is hard coded into the rm program I assume
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20:27:16FromDiscord<Varriount> I guess you could patch the compiler to ask for confirmation on reading/writing files or running arbitrary processes at compile time
20:27:55dadadaVarriount: operation not permitted for rm -rf /* as well
20:27:58FromDiscord<Varriount> Might not be a bad feature to implement...
20:29:24shashlickPlease don't
20:29:41shashlickMake allows all sorts of commands
20:29:43dadada /* seems to delete data with lesser protection though, like content in user diretories, so it's NOT ADVISED to try it
20:29:46shashlickAt compile time
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20:59:43FromDiscord<clyybber> dadada: The macro still works right?
20:59:46FromDiscord<clyybber> AFAICT at least
21:00:00FromDiscord<clyybber> but expandMacros doesn't show the expected output?
21:01:52dadadaclyybber: no it doesn't work AFAI can see
21:03:46dadadaclyybber: the test func should work as if mut was var, but when trying to pass a variable to it, the compiler complains that it's not compatible with mut int, yet after the expansion of macros the compiler ought to know it's var int and not complain
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21:04:00FromDiscord<clyybber> huh?
21:04:06FromDiscord<clyybber> I cant rerproduce
21:04:10FromDiscord<clyybber> you are passing a literal to it
21:04:13FromDiscord<clyybber> thats not mutable
21:04:47disruptekmaybe start with writing nim in nim and then move on to writing rust in nim.
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21:15:13dadadaclyybber, disruptek: the plan isn't rust in nim, but to see what macros are capable of, ty for pointing out my mistake, it's reassuring to see that it's indeed possible
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21:25:05FromGitter<matrixbot> `Alistair Keys` The $ operator should do the trick: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2dpq
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22:03:55FromDiscord<clyybber> np
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22:36:00shashlickit isn't possible to use function pointers with generic procs right?
22:36:39shashlicklike casting a generic proc to a pointer
22:36:54disruptekit has to be instantiated by something.
22:37:00disruptekotherwise it doesn't exist.
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22:38:01disrupteki'd expect it to work if you can call it with a concrete type.
22:42:20shashlickya and in this case, i don't know what types users will create
22:42:24shashlickso out of luck
22:42:33FromDiscord<clyybber> yeah
22:42:56FromDiscord<clyybber> what do you need it for tho?
22:46:12disrupteksounds strange, alright.
22:55:26FromDiscord<mratsim> if it's not known at compile-time you probably need closures/callbacks/handlers with a specific signature and a ref object (possibly inherited)
22:55:34FromDiscord<mratsim> or use methods
22:56:18disruptekprobably smarter to make your own dispatch.
22:56:54FromDiscord<mratsim> this is what I use for generic proc pointer when I don't know the actual final type: https://github.com/mratsim/Arraymancer/blob/master/src/autograd/autograd_common.nim#L85-L96
22:58:56FromDiscord<mratsim> that's for building a direct acyclic graph of operations, operations are not predetermined and can be added by users
23:03:53disruptekusers make my eyes sweat.
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23:37:36shashlickbasically, i have a bunch of generic procs in the plugin manager that each plugin also needs access to
23:37:59shashlickbut i don't want each plugin to have to compile and maintain its own copy of those procs
23:38:21shashlicki can give plugins access to the plugin manager procs by pointer but it won't work for generic procs
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23:46:45disruptekwhy would you not want to have another layer here so you can do some introspection, etc. strings, baby.
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23:55:09FromDiscord<Rika> What can I use to make a repl like system on nim (just the input output part)
23:55:47disruptekhttps://nim-lang.org/docs/linenoise.html
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23:57:36FromDiscord<Rika> Oh wow, it's in the std lib
23:57:37FromDiscord<Rika> Wtf
23:57:40FromDiscord<Rika> That's cool
23:58:11FromDiscord<Rika> Undocumented tho rip, guess it's a wrapper to linenoise?