| 00:01:35 | Varriount | Hello Kazimuth |
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| 00:11:26 | dom96 | 'night |
| 00:17:07 | Kazimuth | hloo |
| 00:17:16 | Kazimuth | I am wrestling with jython |
| 00:17:21 | Kazimuth | it is not exactly fun |
| 00:17:26 | Varriount | Ouch. |
| 00:18:11 | Varriount | Kazimuth: I'm trying to find out why a call to cancel io operations isn't cancelling io operations |
| 00:18:43 | Varriount | Kazimuth: What is Jython like? |
| 00:18:46 | Kazimuth | isn't programming *fun* |
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| 00:19:09 | Kazimuth | It's python, but on the JVM - actually pretty cool |
| 00:19:44 | Varriount | Yeah, I know that, but how does it interface with Java? |
| 00:19:52 | Varriount | Also, what's your use-case? |
| 00:20:16 | Demos | the fact that interop is so easy with stuff like jython, scala, IronPython, IronRuby, and so on make me think maybe garbage collection should be part of the kernel |
| 00:20:47 | Kazimuth | It's totally transparent - you can just "import java.util.List" (or whatever) and use it like a jython object... almost always |
| 00:21:05 | Kazimuth | and, https://github.com/jdf/processing.py |
| 00:21:07 | Demos | how about calling python from java? |
| 00:21:33 | Demos | I tried to do that with IronPython once and I ended up using the dynamic keyword a whole lot |
| 00:21:42 | Kazimuth | Yeahhh |
| 00:22:13 | Demos | is processing good? I have used Cinder, which is like processing but for c++, and it was good but had massive build time problems |
| 00:22:31 | Kazimuth | basically everything you give to it is just a "PyObject" and then you get type errors :/ |
| 00:22:51 | Demos | allright, same as IronPython pretty much then |
| 00:23:04 | Kazimuth | and, yeah, I like it |
| 00:23:09 | Kazimuth | rapid prototyping! |
| 00:23:47 | Demos | yeah, I hear it is actually pretty fast as well |
| 00:24:46 | Demos | it is interesting that it is essentially a game engine without the loop |
| 00:25:58 | Kazimuth | well, optional loop |
| 00:26:14 | Kazimuth | you can schedule yourself or let the framework take care of it |
| 00:27:04 | Demos | ah, I guess cinder was no loop |
| 00:27:24 | Demos | we ended up writing a simple OOP style (update() and draw() methods) type loop |
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| 04:32:03 | Swammy | right? |
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| 15:51:11 | flaviu | dom96: You have a twitter, right? Maybe try tweeting @gvanrossum because apparently Dropbox is making changes in its infrastructure and it'd be a shame if they didn't know about nimrod |
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| 16:13:08 | BitPuffin | huh cool |
| 16:13:13 | BitPuffin | if you search for typeclasses paper |
| 16:13:17 | BitPuffin | nimrod shows up on the first page |
| 16:13:25 | BitPuffin | https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CGYQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fvocalbit.com%2Fposts%2Fexploring-type-classes-in-nimrod.html&ei=a9K2U4bxIYO6ygPG3oGoBw&usg=AFQjCNGalBzCt0RqhER3GIdYVOKZy7cMRQ&sig2=yUt6ZEmr5EzHctMroma9qw&bvm=bv.70138588,d.bGQ&cad=rja |
| 16:15:21 | BitPuffin | flaviu: dropbox sucks |
| 16:15:45 | flaviu | BitPuffin: Don't forget the filter bubble |
| 16:15:58 | BitPuffin | flaviu: I'm aware that might be it |
| 16:16:07 | BitPuffin | but for all of us it should show up :P |
| 16:16:25 | flaviu | Its still on the second page though |
| 16:17:50 | BitPuffin | I wonder if it could also be the retina screen, don't know if they give you different result counts based on screen resolution |
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| 17:09:11 | dom96 | flaviu: Haven't they already chosen Go? |
| 17:10:01 | flaviu | yes, but they have plenty of opportunities also use nimrod for other things |
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| 17:11:26 | flaviu | plus Guido commenting on it might bring some attention |
| 17:13:26 | dom96 | Well I don't want to randomly tweet @ him saying he should use Nimrod |
| 17:13:35 | dom96 | I will instead comment here: https://tech.dropbox.com/2014/07/open-sourcing-our-go-libraries/ |
| 17:17:07 | Demos | it would be totally insane for dropbox to use nirmod. Or Rust, or any other language that is not actually done |
| 17:17:12 | Demos | or stable |
| 17:17:18 | Demos | Go is probably a good choice for them |
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| 17:22:43 | dom96 | perhaps, but it would be sane for them to adopt the language if they like it in its current state. |
| 17:22:55 | Demos | oh, that is true! |
| 17:22:58 | dom96 | Help with its development and use it when it's ready |
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| 18:30:11 | BitPuffin | Araq: statit[t] should probably be replaced by dependent types |
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| 19:50:17 | Araq | er ... can somedbody please fix "master" now? |
| 19:50:23 | Araq | how hard can it be |
| 19:51:28 | dom96 | there is nothing to fix |
| 19:51:51 | dom96 | just download 0.9.4 |
| 19:51:59 | Araq | what about that "system needs random" stuff? |
| 19:52:28 | dom96 | Isn't that because people are trying to the devel C sources to compile master? |
| 19:52:44 | Araq | I have no idea |
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| 20:02:24 | Demos | oh carp did the addition of random on windows break the builds! |
| 20:06:50 | Araq | I don't think so |
| 20:15:00 | dom96 | Varriount: Is your fsmonitor pushed anywhere? |
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