| 00:00:59 | bung_ | https://github.com/nim-lang/needed-libraries |
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| 00:01:55 | FromDiscord | <𝓑𝓮𝓷𝓾𝓶𝓫𝓮𝓭> Thank you kindly bung |
| 00:03:13 | bung_ | np,I looked it multiple times. |
| 00:12:14 | shashlick | hello @bung_ |
| 00:12:20 | shashlick | sorry had to log off last night |
| 00:12:28 | shashlick | you still stuck with that nimterop build stuff? |
| 00:14:37 | bung_ | shashlick I give up yesterday |
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| 00:21:18 | shashlick | You're on osx right, which version |
| 00:21:39 | shashlick | I didn't see any clang version 11 released yet so was wondering |
| 00:21:58 | bung_ | catalina 10.15.1 (19B88) |
| 00:25:47 | shashlick | Ah OK |
| 00:26:05 | shashlick | I don't have a way to test that - only 13 at home and 14 on Travis |
| 00:26:36 | shashlick | Did you see the error message after git clone and nim c nimterop/toast |
| 00:27:21 | bung_ | it get stucked, so I dont get any information, that's make it not easy to handle |
| 00:29:06 | shashlick | Nothing prints to screen? |
| 00:29:19 | shashlick | Nimble install does hide stuff, but Nim c should |
| 00:29:25 | shashlick | Weird |
| 00:29:44 | bung_ | you mean using nim c to check? |
| 00:31:21 | bung_ | oh not problem with it now |
| 00:32:17 | bung_ | nimble build, nim c both work, dont know why not work yesterday |
| 00:42:54 | shashlick | i pushed v0.6.1 couple minutes ago - many changes but doubt anything would have impacted this |
| 00:45:40 | bung_ | shashlick it's successfully installed, I reinstall it now. |
| 00:46:05 | bung_ | before this, It installed but have no toast binary. |
| 00:46:16 | shashlick | okay no idea then - random failures |
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| 00:47:07 | bung_ | shashlick nimterop not like nimgen will generate a nimble package automaticlly? |
| 00:48:34 | shashlick | nimgen would generate the wrappers at install time |
| 00:48:54 | shashlick | nimterop generates them at compile time |
| 00:49:13 | shashlick | this is because i had many issues with nimble not copying the payload at install time |
| 00:49:18 | shashlick | beforeInstall wasn't reliable |
| 00:49:27 | shashlick | but now with nimterop, you can do it in many ways |
| 00:49:42 | shashlick | https://github.com/nimterop/nimterop#usage |
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| 00:52:08 | bung_ | I see the wrapper comment, can I avoid toast params specify to absolute path? |
| 00:53:13 | shashlick | right now i convert to absolute paths to ensure that the right headers get imported when recursing through #includes |
| 00:53:26 | shashlick | but once the wrapper is done, you could change it to a relative path |
| 00:53:32 | shashlick | no good answer for that yet |
| 01:01:34 | bung_ | dont know how to download git source automaticlly |
| 01:05:47 | bung_ | `nim c -d:headerGit src/htm/quickjs.nim` not right? |
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| 01:07:04 | shashlick | quickjsGit |
| 01:07:12 | shashlick | header is a placeholder |
| 01:07:28 | shashlick | has to be same as the header = "" param in cImport() |
| 01:07:52 | Yardanico | just for fun ran cloc on all packages in nimble (although it's not exactly current), but anyway, the result |
| 01:07:53 | Yardanico | https://gist.github.com/Yardanico/7c4538b458eebcf6e29f1d7bf0e12bba |
| 01:08:02 | Yardanico | 6594771 lines of nim code (that's excluding comments and blank lines) |
| 01:08:28 | Yardanico | wonder where most of the cloc comes from |
| 01:13:52 | bung_ | ok , error occurs during build https://pastebin.com/G0fBArG6 |
| 01:14:34 | shashlick | looks like quickjs is not compiling on your machine |
| 01:15:40 | shashlick | can you git clone https://github.com/ldarren/quickjs and see if make works by itself? |
| 01:17:59 | shashlick | if it isn't compiling for you, need to report it to that repo |
| 01:20:17 | shashlick | worked fine on my mac |
| 01:20:21 | shashlick | try `make libquickjs.a` |
| 01:22:23 | bung_ | "mod branch contained mac fixes for undefined environ in ./quickjs-libc.c" |
| 01:22:38 | bung_ | it documented this problem. |
| 01:22:43 | shashlick | neat |
| 01:23:57 | shashlick | amusingly it pulled mod branch for me since it is the default |
| 01:25:50 | shashlick | nimterop is pulling master by default if no branch specified - i need to fix that |
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| 01:29:10 | bung_ | it not follow the git uri ? append `#mod` not work |
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| 01:33:20 | shashlick | for now, just go to the cache directory and git checkout mod and make |
| 01:33:25 | shashlick | i'll have to fix nimterop |
| 01:35:21 | bung_ | ok |
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| 01:44:27 | Yardanico | so guys uhh I'm a bit confused |
| 01:44:31 | Yardanico | why do we have a go library in nimble? |
| 01:44:37 | Yardanico | https://github.com/recoilme/pudge.git is in nimble :D |
| 01:45:33 | Yardanico | well maybe it was rewritten in Go, idk |
| 01:45:41 | Yardanico | but doesn't seem so |
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| 01:46:20 | Yardanico | gonna PR to packages to remove it |
| 01:46:44 | Yardanico | (found it by my pkgraph thing, I'm checking if there wasn't a nimble file found in package at all, and if so, I error and exit) |
| 01:47:22 | FromDiscord | <codic> it's in nimble? |
| 01:47:25 | Yardanico | yes |
| 01:47:30 | Yardanico | https://github.com/nim-lang/packages/pull/431 |
| 01:47:31 | disbot | ➥ pudge db verification |
| 01:47:34 | Yardanico | seems like the author recreated the repo |
| 01:47:36 | FromDiscord | <codic> that's weird |
| 01:47:38 | Yardanico | it was in nim at first it seems |
| 01:47:49 | Yardanico | but then they removed all commits (or recreated the repo) and rewrote it in Go |
| 01:47:53 | FromDiscord | <codic> ah |
| 01:47:58 | FromDiscord | <codic> that's sad |
| 01:48:20 | FromDiscord | <codic> what happens if you install it then? |
| 01:48:55 | Yardanico | it'll fail |
| 01:49:04 | Yardanico | try "nimble install pudge" |
| 01:50:59 | bung_ | no,it has no nim files in history |
| 01:51:04 | bung_ | https://github.com/recoilme/pudge/commit/bfc88101a3ace6b6deedfb0fc57cb224f1a6baf4 |
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| 01:51:07 | Yardanico | bung_: yes, as I said |
| 01:51:13 | Yardanico | the author probably removed the nim repo |
| 01:51:17 | Yardanico | and recreated a go repo with same name |
| 01:51:20 | Yardanico | so there are no nim commits |
| 01:52:49 | bung_ | the author also has no nim project. |
| 01:52:58 | Yardanico | well, they seem to have been using nim in the past |
| 01:55:30 | bung_ | that's weird ,create someting , then delete everything |
| 01:55:39 | Yardanico | https://github.com/nim-lang/packages/pull/1548 |
| 01:55:40 | disbot | ➥ Remove pudge (it's a Go library now) |
| 02:00:54 | shashlick | @bung_ hope you are unblocked for now, will take a bit to fix this |
| 02:13:34 | FromGitter | <bung87> dont worry, it's low priority on my list |
| 02:17:41 | FromDiscord | <KingDarBoja> Lmao |
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| 03:48:41 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> is there a good way to remove a child from a nimnode at an index |
| 03:49:00 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> or do i have to convert to a seq and back |
| 03:51:15 | Yardanico | https://nim-lang.org/docs/macros.html#del%2CNimNode%2Cint%2Cint |
| 03:56:19 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit> Would ```nim↵type Command = object↵ nams:string↵ commandProc:proc(s:Shard, m:Message) {.async.}``` be valid code? |
| 03:56:40 | Yardanico | on devel it is |
| 03:56:43 | Yardanico | since async is a template |
| 03:56:49 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit> Thanks! |
| 03:56:58 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit> And yeah I'm using devel :P |
| 03:57:28 | FromDiscord | <juan_carlos> is possible to improve `when nimvm:` into more like other compile defines?, something like `when defined(nimvm):` would be awesome, I dunno the limitations of the vm. |
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| 04:29:02 | Yardanico | so guys, top 50 packages by how many other packages depend on them (in nimble): |
| 04:29:28 | Yardanico | https://gist.github.com/Yardanico/4eed919089764176df8f4f71c4435adf |
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| 04:44:15 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> You now make me realize i want a "Packages that depend on this" on nimble 😄 |
| 04:52:28 | leorize | juan_carlos: it's not possible, when nimvm is a kind of when statement |
| 04:53:01 | leorize | actually read it like this: it's possible but the semantics are not compatible, which is why it's separate |
| 04:53:54 | FromDiscord | <juan_carlos> ok. |
| 04:58:32 | shashlick | what's faster github actions or azure pipelines |
| 04:58:45 | leorize | same |
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| 04:59:07 | leorize | github rent out azure's infra, and their runner software is a fork of azure's |
| 04:59:25 | shashlick | ok which one offers more limits for free users |
| 04:59:33 | leorize | github |
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| 05:01:05 | shashlick | i need faster turnaround on my nimterop test matrix but really not keen on investing time on CI stuff |
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| 05:06:21 | leorize | yea then go for github |
| 05:06:45 | leorize | you can copy the setup I made for fusion as a start |
| 05:07:02 | shashlick | maybe i'll setup a gitster matrix like my travister setup to run random tests |
| 05:08:13 | Yardanico | contiuning on my pkgraph adventure |
| 05:08:19 | Yardanico | now also parsing author/version/license |
| 05:08:20 | Yardanico | create (id1065:package {pkgname: 'nimwc', author: 'Thomas T. Jarløv (https://github.com/ThomasTJdev) & Juan Carlos (https://github.com/juancarlospaco)', license: 'PPL', version: '6.0.5'}) |
| 05:08:34 | Yardanico | (that's neo4j's cypher statement) |
| 05:14:51 | Yardanico | https://i.imgur.com/a9qMr3x.png |
| 05:28:19 | Yardanico | https://i.imgur.com/hsNv4NQ.png :P |
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| 05:50:21 | FromDiscord | <mattrb> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/2qPn |
| 05:52:29 | FromDiscord | <Varriount> @mattrb Have you used GDB or LLDB before? |
| 05:54:29 | FromDiscord | <mattrb> I used gdb while building a toy language a few months ago, but all I did at that point was step through asm and check regs :p Beyond that, I really have no clue how to use gdb at a deeper level :/ |
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| 05:56:44 | FromDiscord | <Varriount> @mattrb Hm, well if you compile your program with `--debugger:native` and omit any flags such `-d:release`, you should be able to run the program with GDB, and at least get a stack trace when it crashes. |
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| 05:57:07 | FromDiscord | <Varriount> I'd help, but I'm currently setting up my Nim environment (newly fixed computer). |
| 05:59:55 | FromDiscord | <Varriount> @mattrb How complex is a Gameboy emulator? I've heard it's a good way to get experience with emulation in general. |
| 06:00:03 | leorize | scoped mm got merged |
| 06:00:19 | leorize | Yardanico: benchmark please :) |
| 06:00:24 | Yardanico | lol |
| 06:00:39 | Yardanico | in the end 4raq redone everything using the existing backend :P |
| 06:00:46 | FromDiscord | <Varriount> @leorize I recall seeing that PR... does it have any semantic impact on the language? |
| 06:00:56 | Yardanico | it only matters for destructors |
| 06:01:00 | Yardanico | now destructors will actually be scoped |
| 06:01:14 | Yardanico | so if you create a string in a for loop, it'll be destroyed on each iteration, not after it |
| 06:01:18 | Yardanico | or even "block: " |
| 06:01:44 | leorize | for the language, it doesn't affect much |
| 06:02:10 | leorize | I'm more interested in potential optimization gained via scoping variables properly :P |
| 06:02:19 | FromDiscord | <Varriount> Hm, on the one hand, that behavior is much more expected. On the other, it means careless string creation is even more of a performance hole |
| 06:03:10 | FromDiscord | <mattrb> @Varriount If you're familiar with hardware, I'd say an mvp would take a couple weeks in your free time. For me, the more interesting part is the cycle-accurate interaction between components, which tends to take a little longer. I also had to spend a fair bit of time wrapping my head around digital audio, which I had no experience with before |
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| 06:06:50 | FromDiscord | <mattrb> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2qPt |
| 06:08:26 | leorize | Varriount: move optimizations are designed to help with that |
| 06:09:43 | Yardanico | magic |
| 06:09:43 | Yardanico | https://i.imgur.com/Vm85sAd.png |
| 06:09:53 | Yardanico | all packages which indirectly depend on dom's packages |
| 06:09:58 | Yardanico | (and also his other packages) |
| 06:12:33 | FromDiscord | <Varriount> @mattrb When you run the program normally, does it crash (no exception or stack trace) or does it emit an exception? |
| 06:15:16 | FromDiscord | <mattrb> Typically just segfaults with no message `[1] 110702 segmentation fault (core dumped) ./chip8 ~/Downloads/ch8/PONG` |
| 06:15:30 | Yardanico | if you compile without -d:release or -d:danger there should be a stack trace |
| 06:16:12 | FromDiscord | <Varriount> (unless something has gone horribly wrong) |
| 06:16:31 | FromDiscord | <Varriount> Yardanico: do you know if GDB dumps stack traces from all threads by default? |
| 06:16:38 | Yardanico | I think it doesn't |
| 06:16:42 | Yardanico | I was talking about nim itself :P |
| 06:18:31 | FromDiscord | <mattrb> I'm just compiling with `nimble build` |
| 06:21:30 | Yardanico | well that builds a release version |
| 06:21:35 | Yardanico | ah, no |
| 06:21:48 | Yardanico | try with nim c -r yourfile |
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| 06:23:36 | FromDiscord | <mattrb> I've been trying for a few minutes now and I can't get it to crash when I compile with `nimble build --d:release`..... |
| 06:23:46 | FromDiscord | <mattrb> I'll try nim c -r though.. |
| 06:25:51 | Yardanico | @dom96 https://i.imgur.com/36hez6l.png :P |
| 06:26:07 | Yardanico | all your packages, and all packages depending on your packages (with their authors) |
| 06:26:33 | FromDiscord | <mattrb> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2qPx |
| 06:26:42 | Yardanico | really strange |
| 06:26:45 | Yardanico | no nim stack trace |
| 06:26:52 | Yardanico | what's your version of nim? |
| 06:27:21 | leorize | can I see the code? |
| 06:27:23 | shashlick | @leorize - remember you mentioned that a dll can load a proc from the main executable |
| 06:27:32 | FromDiscord | <Varriount> https://github.com/mattrberry/chip-8_nim/blob/master/src/chip8.nimhttps://github.com/mattrberry/chip-8_nim/blob/master/src/chip8.nim |
| 06:27:37 | leorize | shashlick: yes |
| 06:28:14 | FromDiscord | <mattrb> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2qPy |
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| 06:29:23 | FromDiscord | <mattrb> https://github.com/mattrberry/chip-8_nim |
| 06:30:26 | FromDiscord | <mattrb> The stack trace above from gdb seems to point to this line, although that doesn't make sense.. https://github.com/mattrberry/chip-8_nim/blob/master/src/chip8.nim#L37 |
| 06:32:29 | shashlick | i tried `symAddr(nil, "procName")` but it is nil |
| 06:32:46 | shashlick | i added {.exportc, dynlib.} to procName |
| 06:33:21 | shashlick | oh wait |
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| 06:35:30 | shashlick | @leorize - nah - even using `loadLib()` to get current executable handle and using that in symAddr doesn't work |
| 06:36:12 | leorize | you have to use --passL:-Wl,--export-dynamic |
| 06:36:22 | leorize | or else the executable symbols will not be exported |
| 06:36:35 | shashlick | ah |
| 06:36:41 | leorize | (this is why no one ever wants to do this sort of thing on linux) |
| 06:37:07 | shashlick | do I still need the exportc, dynlib |
| 06:37:19 | leorize | yes |
| 06:40:50 | FromDiscord | <mattrb> I'm gonna get a bit of sleep for now. If anyone sees anything I might be doing wrong here or has any other ideas for debugging, please @ me. Greatly appreciated! 🙂 |
| 06:42:19 | FromDiscord | <Varriount> @mattrb I'll try working it out. |
| 06:44:25 | shashlick | okay it works now but segfaulting elsewhere |
| 06:44:50 | shashlick | i tried --gc:none but still does - need to debug |
| 06:45:50 | leorize | you might want to add cdecl |
| 06:51:04 | shashlick | yep it is and it works but now failing when calling another proc from the dll |
| 06:51:17 | shashlick | so i called a proc in the dll which called a proc in the executable and that worked |
| 06:51:41 | shashlick | then finally, i call another proc in the dll which refers to some globals and it crashes in gc |
| 06:52:05 | leorize | either use gc:arc/orc or use nimrtl |
| 06:52:33 | shashlick | arc/orc doesn't work yet for toast |
| 06:53:03 | shashlick | even boehm crashes which is nifty |
| 06:53:17 | leorize | try --stacktrace:off |
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| 06:55:40 | shashlick | http://ix.io/2qPC |
| 06:55:58 | shashlick | #4 = onSymbolOverrideFinal which is the proc in the dll |
| 06:56:45 | shashlick | https://github.com/nimterop/nimterop/blob/master/nimterop/plugin.nim#L21 |
| 06:57:57 | shashlick | same story with --stacktrace:off |
| 07:10:35 | shashlick | @leorize - I think it has to do with the `--export-dynamic` |
| 07:10:47 | shashlick | even if i don't call the executable, if that flag is on, it crashes |
| 07:15:31 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit> Is it possible to get a type that i made from a .so file in dynlib? |
| 07:15:43 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit> The fields of the type are populated |
| 07:15:56 | Yardanico | types don't exist at runtime at all |
| 07:15:57 | leorize | shashlick: ooooh I know why :P |
| 07:16:01 | shashlick | you'd need to share the nim source |
| 07:16:02 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit> And i know what fields the type have |
| 07:16:05 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit> Oh okay |
| 07:16:09 | Yardanico | you just copy the definitioon then |
| 07:16:11 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit> Hm |
| 07:16:13 | shashlick | like a header file |
| 07:16:16 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit> Oh? |
| 07:16:22 | shashlick | @leorize - do tell! |
| 07:16:44 | shashlick | i think it is related to cOverrides being a global |
| 07:17:07 | shashlick | but amusingly it doesn't fail in the normal case |
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| 07:20:33 | leorize | shashlick: do you use nimrtl? |
| 07:20:39 | shashlick | no |
| 07:20:46 | shashlick | i use markAndSweep |
| 07:21:00 | shashlick | that's the only gc that allows these dll shenanigans |
| 07:21:06 | leorize | switch to boehm, you can't pass memory around without nimrtl if you use built in gc |
| 07:21:13 | shashlick | of course, i didn't use boehm |
| 07:21:19 | shashlick | but it crashes the same way with boehm as well |
| 07:21:24 | shashlick | that's the first thing i tried |
| 07:21:31 | shashlick | both exe and dll are compiled with boehm |
| 07:21:31 | leorize | compiles your dlls with -d:noSignalHandler |
| 07:22:58 | leorize | if you're not using nimrtl that ruled out certain issues |
| 07:23:27 | leorize | --export-dynamic can cause NimMain of loaded DLLs to be overwritten with the main executable |
| 07:23:49 | leorize | I encountered this with Haiku, where every binary is also a shared library (kinda implies --export-dynamic) |
| 07:24:28 | leorize | you might need to use --passL:-Bsymbolic to pre-bound symbols |
| 07:24:33 | shashlick | -d:noSignalHandler didn't help - with markAndSweep nor boehm |
| 07:25:00 | leorize | at this point you should use boehm tbh |
| 07:25:08 | leorize | have you reported the issue with arc? |
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| 07:27:13 | shashlick | I had mentioned earlier |
| 07:27:39 | shashlick | http://ix.io/2qPH |
| 07:28:02 | shashlick | simply change markAndSweep to arc or orc in toast.nims and run nimble test |
| 07:28:39 | Yardanico | i guess time to re-test some packages after the scope PR :P |
| 07:28:46 | shashlick | https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/14074 is also still open |
| 07:28:48 | disbot | ➥ --gc:arc does not retain global HashSet in --app:lib ; snippet at 12https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2j7k |
| 07:28:55 | leorize | it's fixed |
| 07:29:08 | leorize | Araq forgot to close it I think |
| 07:29:10 | shashlick | okay |
| 07:29:12 | leorize | should double check |
| 07:29:53 | Yardanico | time to check my arc issues too to see if they're fixed after the scope pr |
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| 07:30:17 | Araq | probably not, I reverted to the old implementation |
| 07:30:23 | Yardanico | well yeah I saw that :D |
| 07:30:37 | leorize | does that one still fix a bunch of weave issues? |
| 07:30:38 | Araq | but at least now I can focus on bugs once again |
| 07:30:57 | shashlick | Bsymbolic didn't help either |
| 07:31:22 | leorize | I'm gonna try building it myself them |
| 07:31:27 | leorize | how to reproduce? |
| 07:31:45 | leorize | then* |
| 07:31:55 | Yardanico | at least https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/14383 seems to be fixed now |
| 07:31:57 | disbot | ➥ [ARC] Internal compiler error when calling an iterator from an inline proc ; snippet at 12https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2qPI |
| 07:31:58 | Yardanico | will re-test the original package |
| 07:32:06 | shashlick | #14074? or the experiment i'm doing now |
| 07:32:07 | disbot | https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/14074 -- 3--gc:arc does not retain global HashSet in --app:lib ; snippet at 12https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2j7k |
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| 07:36:09 | leorize | shashlick: the experiment |
| 07:37:01 | Yardanico | so https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/14383 seems to be fixed, do I need to make a PR with a test-case or no? :P |
| 07:37:03 | disbot | ➥ [ARC] Internal compiler error when calling an iterator from an inline proc ; snippet at 12https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2qPI |
| 07:37:56 | shashlick | @leorize - I created an exportdynamic branch for nimterop |
| 07:38:06 | shashlick | simply clone and nimble test |
| 07:38:17 | Yardanico | actually https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/14864 seems to be working with latest devel after the scoped PR too lol |
| 07:38:18 | disbot | ➥ [ARC] C compiler error with inline iterators and imports ; snippet at 12https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2qBN |
| 07:38:45 | shashlick | diff shows you what all i changed - https://github.com/nimterop/nimterop/compare/exportdynamic |
| 07:39:55 | shashlick | turn off -export-dynamic and it no longer crashes but fails cause the cOverrides table doesn't get populated - so issues in either case |
| 07:40:04 | shashlick | going to bed - let me know what you find - thanks! |
| 07:42:18 | ForumUpdaterBot | New thread by Valeriue: Questions about nim, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/6516 |
| 07:44:12 | shashlick | Note that the plugins get cached so you might want to update loadPlugin to always recompile in case you change compile args |
| 07:44:28 | Yardanico | forum thread "Hi! I recently came across a language nim, I would like to ask a couple of questions about this language. Is it suitable for low-level programming? What is created with its help? Where is this language used? For interest - is it suitable for writing Malware?How is he doing with networks, web and gui applications? If you answer, I will be grateful." |
| 07:44:30 | Yardanico | a lot of questions :P |
| 07:44:53 | Yardanico | and yes you can check contents even if it's "moderated" since the forum backend still gives you all posts |
| 07:46:17 | Yardanico | oh nim-random didn't compile with arc |
| 07:46:21 | Yardanico | internal compiler error, yess |
| 07:47:35 | leorize | The answer for that should be: "yes" :P |
| 07:54:48 | Yardanico | oh no I broke nim forum |
| 07:54:58 | Yardanico | i replied, and now my post is the "starting" post of the thread lol |
| 07:55:03 | Yardanico | and it is displayed on the main forum page |
| 08:06:04 | Yardanico | ok im moving closer to reproducing |
| 08:06:13 | Yardanico | seems to be an iterator-related issue |
| 08:11:49 | Yardanico | https://gist.github.com/Yardanico/68ac519419d2bd459941e1fe2f7de58e |
| 08:12:30 | Yardanico | ah actually not related to iterators sorry |
| 08:14:33 | FromDiscord | <dom96> > @dom96 https://i.imgur.com/36hez6l.png :P↵@Yardanico[IRC]#0000 basic2d depends on redis? lol? |
| 08:14:42 | Yardanico | no |
| 08:14:46 | Yardanico | it's just that they're too close :P |
| 08:14:55 | Yardanico | if you zoom you can see the arrow passes through redis |
| 08:15:14 | Yardanico | I still didn't find good enough tools to visualize the whole graph |
| 08:16:24 | Yardanico | but now I also parse version + license + author (author being a separate node) |
| 08:17:34 | Yardanico | https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/14899 done |
| 08:17:36 | disbot | ➥ [ARC] Template with a block results in a compiler crash ; snippet at 12https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2qPU |
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| 08:37:06 | Yardanico | seems like templates got a bit broken with scoped PR |
| 08:37:11 | Yardanico | sequtils templates I mean :P |
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| 08:43:41 | Yardanico | https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/14900 |
| 08:43:43 | disbot | ➥ [ARC] Weird issue with if expressions and algorithm.sortedByIt ; snippet at 12https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2qQ0 |
| 08:44:03 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> Anyone serialization library better than protobuf/cbor? |
| 08:44:11 | Yardanico | "better" is subjective |
| 08:44:14 | Yardanico | but there's msgpack in nim |
| 08:44:18 | Yardanico | https://github.com/jangko/msgpack4nim |
| 08:49:05 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> http://vstack.co/opensource1.html |
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| 09:00:23 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> http://tutorials.jenkov.com/rion/rion-vs-other-formats.html |
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| 09:19:07 | FromDiscord | <impbox> in JS backend, is this a reasonable way to do feature detection?↵```proc newAudioContext*(): AudioContext {.importjs: "new AudioContext() || new window.webkitAudioContext() || null".}``` |
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| 09:19:37 | FromDiscord | <impbox> if not, is there a idiomatic way to do it? |
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| 09:25:22 | FromDiscord | <impbox> ^ AudioContext doesn't exist on Safari, but webkitAudioContext does, and older platforms might not have it at all. |
| 09:37:39 | FromDiscord | <Shucks> I've wrapped this cpp code from a library. But once I use it from nim the fields get mixed up for any reason (so Flags becomes Method for example). Any Idea? https://paste.sh/43qXAuVz#N9OY7Cj6d5QRpzRuWCRzEEeo |
| 09:37:58 | Yardanico | maybe you need alignment or packing? |
| 09:39:11 | FromDiscord | <Shucks> Also this library is coded in cpp. Im using importc and `nim c`, does that matter? |
| 09:49:42 | Yardanico | @Clyybber you around? |
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| 09:50:16 | Yardanico | I was trying to compile (I know it'll leak but anyway) nitter with gc:orc, but got an infinite recursion in injectdestructors.nim line 240 isFirstWrite instead. what would be a good way to debug it? |
| 09:51:39 | Yardanico | ah wait it's actually kinda not infinite |
| 09:51:52 | Yardanico | but fails with default of 2k call depth |
| 09:52:44 | Yardanico | when making depth higher it crashes in the c codegen instead |
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| 09:57:06 | haxscramper | Is it possible to suppress macro/template expansion when outputting compilation errors? I just got 250-lines in compilation errors, most of which are 'expected ... but expression <40-60 lines of template expansion> is of type X'. |
| 09:58:17 | haxscramper | Show original source code for expression instead of expanded version. |
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| 10:04:38 | FromDiscord | <impbox> how can i catch TypeError? `except TypeError:` gives `Error: undeclared identifier: 'TypeError'` but if i don't try to catch it I get `Uncaught TypeError: AudioContext is not a constructor` |
| 10:04:48 | Yardanico | that's a js error |
| 10:05:16 | Yardanico | you need to importc it |
| 10:05:31 | Yardanico | ah no |
| 10:05:37 | Yardanico | it's actually already defined in jsffi module |
| 10:05:43 | Yardanico | "except JsTypeError:" |
| 10:06:11 | Yardanico | https://nim-lang.org/docs/jsffi.html#JsTypeError |
| 10:06:21 | FromDiscord | <impbox> thanks! |
| 10:06:23 | FromDiscord | <impbox> that does it |
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| 10:19:24 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> @Yardanico Sup |
| 10:19:50 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> Hmm, interesting, it should also occur with just arc, does it? |
| 10:20:11 | Yardanico | ah yes of course |
| 10:20:25 | Yardanico | it does |
| 10:20:53 | Prestige | Who was working on adding curly bracket support? Curious about the progress |
| 10:21:00 | Yardanico | Prestige: @Zed-Inc |
| 10:21:24 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> Araq: Ping |
| 10:21:27 | FromDiscord | <Zed> You called |
| 10:21:36 | Yardanico | they're asking about your curly bracket support :D |
| 10:21:44 | FromDiscord | <Zed> lol |
| 10:21:47 | FromDiscord | <Zed> You hate it |
| 10:21:50 | Yardanico | i do |
| 10:22:00 | FromDiscord | <Zed> :P |
| 10:22:12 | Prestige | I am missing them :P |
| 10:22:18 | FromDiscord | <Zed> Prestige, curly bracket support works |
| 10:22:31 | FromDiscord | <Zed> Doesn't work on folders though |
| 10:22:59 | FromDiscord | <Zed> So you do have to pass in every file you want converted |
| 10:23:09 | FromDiscord | <Zed> The GitHub is nim_braces |
| 10:23:14 | ForumUpdaterBot | New thread by Ftsf: How to do feature detection with JS backend?, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/6517 |
| 10:23:59 | FromDiscord | <Varriount> @mattrb I wasn't able to get my Nim environment set up yet, however one option to hunt down the big is to use `--gc:arc` and valgrind/address sanitizer. |
| 10:24:14 | Prestige | hmm could it be configured in a nimble task very easily? Also I think nimpretty is going to throw a fit |
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| 10:25:14 | FromDiscord | <Zed> Yeah you probably could |
| 10:25:22 | FromDiscord | <Zed> You'll have to do some testing though |
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| 10:28:50 | FromDiscord | <Varriount> @Avahe What are you doing with braces? |
| 10:30:12 | FromDiscord | <Zed> Nim |
| 10:30:16 | FromDiscord | <Zed> But with braces |
| 10:30:24 | FromDiscord | <Zed> Like C |
| 10:30:28 | Prestige | I'd like to have them in my code for readability |
| 10:30:46 | FromDiscord | <Zed> Just don't use vscode lol |
| 10:30:59 | FromDiscord | <Zed> Or any editor really |
| 10:31:11 | FromDiscord | <Zed> Unless you like those squiggles |
| 10:31:12 | Prestige | What do you mean? |
| 10:31:21 | FromDiscord | <Zed> Errors |
| 10:32:08 | Prestige | oh are you talking about my comment on nimpretty? |
| 10:33:27 | FromDiscord | <Zed> No, just that if you use something like vscode and nim but with the braces all your code will have those syntax error red squiggles |
| 10:33:42 | Yardanico | well of course |
| 10:34:14 | FromDiscord | <flywind> Maybe make a vscode plugin only for Nim syntax highlight. |
| 10:34:49 | Prestige | I do like seeing errors though |
| 10:35:49 | Prestige | Curly brace support is the one thing I'd change about nim, it seems so hard to format/read atm |
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| 10:40:20 | FromDiscord | <Vindaar> > Curly brace support is the one thing I'd change about nim, it seems so hard to format/read atm↵say that again after looking at C code where the indentation is all messed up (yes, of course you can auto indent there, but still) |
| 10:42:17 | Prestige | I'm fine w/enforced indentation, I'd just also like braces |
| 10:42:38 | Prestige | Having both would be nice |
| 10:44:22 | FromDiscord | <Zed> Braces are nice because you can define your own formatting |
| 10:44:29 | FromDiscord | <Zed> What suits you best |
| 10:44:40 | Yardanico | wdym |
| 10:44:46 | FromDiscord | <Zed> But forced indentation is better for multiple people working on the same project |
| 10:44:48 | FromDiscord | <impbox> until other people need to read it =) |
| 10:45:03 | FromDiscord | <lqdev> but then you can easily trigger people like me by placing a newline before your opening brace |
| 10:45:17 | FromDiscord | <Zed> @impbox you're a mod now?? |
| 10:45:26 | FromDiscord | <impbox> am I? |
| 10:45:32 | FromDiscord | <Zed> Yup |
| 10:45:34 | FromDiscord | <impbox> first i've heard of it |
| 10:45:42 | FromDiscord | <Zed> Well your names green |
| 10:45:47 | FromDiscord | <impbox> _modifies some stuff_ |
| 10:46:09 | FromDiscord | <Zed> > but then you can easily trigger people like me by placing a newline before your opening brace↵@lqdev disgusting |
| 10:46:15 | FromDiscord | <Zed> Never do this |
| 10:46:18 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> @impbox well I did that |
| 10:46:24 | FromDiscord | <impbox> hmm yeah, weird I have mod perms |
| 10:46:26 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> dom didn't decide on the moderator thing in discord yet |
| 10:46:33 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> so maybe they'll be removed later lol |
| 10:46:37 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> or I can remove if you don't want to have them |
| 10:46:46 | FromDiscord | <lqdev> `) {` is the best style, period. |
| 10:46:49 | FromDiscord | <impbox> I guess I'm pretty cool, so I totally won't abuse my powers for evil |
| 10:46:53 | FromDiscord | <Zed> Yup |
| 10:47:03 | FromDiscord | <Zed> That's what they all say impbox |
| 10:47:15 | FromDiscord | <impbox> @Yardanico I don't mind, but I guess I'd wanna know what we're expected to mod |
| 10:47:22 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> usually nothing |
| 10:47:31 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> unless in **extremely** rare situations |
| 10:47:31 | FromDiscord | <impbox> I suppose I can read the <#712684648454684752> |
| 10:47:45 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> we literally only have 3 people banned on this discord |
| 10:47:51 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> and it exists for like 3 years |
| 10:47:51 | FromDiscord | <Zed> What did they do |
| 10:47:56 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> it's a secret |
| 10:48:03 | FromDiscord | <impbox> sounds reasonable |
| 10:48:27 | FromDiscord | <Zed> Ok you have seriously piqued my interest |
| 10:48:37 | FromDiscord | <Zed> But you can't tell |
| 10:49:22 | FromDiscord | <Zed> (edit) 'But you can't tell ... ' => 'But you can't tellwhat they did' |
| 10:49:35 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> because I don't remember for two of them |
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| 10:49:52 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> i wasn't really active on discord until this year (even though i'm *technically* the creator of this server) |
| 10:50:02 | FromDiscord | <impbox> we don't talk about _the incident_ |
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| 10:51:46 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> @Zed just spamming, both accounts are deleted by now |
| 10:52:00 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> but the third one *is the incident* |
| 10:52:06 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> you can't talk about that one |
| 10:52:21 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> First rule of the incident: You don't talk about the incident |
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| 11:22:02 | FromDiscord | <exelotl> Prestige: if you're using vscode, have you tried the rainbow indent plugin? It helps Nim readability quite a lot :) |
| 11:22:43 | haxscramper | `strutils.split` returns `seq[string]`, right? At least in documentation it says this. But `assert split("Hello", "\n") is seq[string]` fails assertion: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2qQM . I think I'm doing something extremely stupid, just cant figure out what exactly. |
| 11:22:44 | haxscramper | |
| 11:25:50 | Yardanico | I don't think "is" is exactly what you want here |
| 11:26:20 | FromDiscord | <impbox> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2qQP |
| 11:26:43 | Prestige | Using noevim @exelotl |
| 11:26:49 | Prestige | neovim lol |
| 11:26:59 | Yardanico | moevim |
| 11:27:01 | Yardanico | AYAYA |
| 11:28:23 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> @haxscramper Looks like a bug, can you create an issue? |
| 11:28:27 | haxscramper | There is a `split(string, string): string` iterator and `split(string, string): seq[string]` proc. I'm not using `for` loop, so it should call `proc`, right? |
| 11:28:34 | Yardanico | no |
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| 11:28:40 | Yardanico | iterator *is* for loops |
| 11:29:12 | Yardanico | for part in split("hello world", " "): echo part |
| 11:29:16 | haxscramper | And I don't have for loop. Which means the only thing it can possibly call is a `proc`. |
| 11:29:20 | Yardanico | yes |
| 11:29:41 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> ah, thats the bug then |
| 11:29:50 | Yardanico | maybe it's even already reported |
| 11:30:01 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> its getting the iterator, and echoing its type |
| 11:30:10 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> still worth reporting IMO |
| 11:30:13 | haxscramper | Adding `toSeq` into assertion works - because it contains for loop internally and generates `seq[string]` as result? |
| 11:30:24 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> yeah |
| 11:31:28 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> @Yardanico What kind of error do you get when you expand the call limit? |
| 11:31:35 | Yardanico | oh lemme run it again |
| 11:32:33 | Yardanico | https://gist.github.com/Yardanico/33aae9c37d666c14e195c49be74493c7 |
| 11:33:00 | Yardanico | i'll try to make a small example *maybe* |
| 11:33:10 | Yardanico | but it's not so easy since nitter is purely async-based :P |
| 11:35:41 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> would be extremely nice if you manage to :D, but you can report it as is too. |
| 11:36:46 | haxscramper | Just to make sure it is really a bug and not misunderstanding on my side: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2qQT - this should not raise any exceptions. |
| 11:46:32 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> Its not clear that it should actually call the the proc instead |
| 11:46:44 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> Perhaps it should give an ambiguity warning |
| 11:47:11 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> But its tricky because currently iterators and procs reside in different namespaces |
| 11:47:15 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> Thats the problem here |
| 11:49:01 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> hah, actually the splitLines proc even gets mentioned in the issue about that |
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| 11:57:27 | FromDiscord | <dom96> so, it seems it is time I unwatch the Nim repo |
| 11:58:09 | FromDiscord | <dom96> argh, I might miss some interesting issues/PRs though |
| 11:58:25 | FromDiscord | <dom96> Anyone aware of a service/bot that can subscribe me to GitHub issues with certain keywords? |
| 12:03:04 | FromDiscord | <Vindaar> > so, it seems it is time I unwatch the Nim repo↵why? |
| 12:03:17 | FromDiscord | <dom96> too many notifications |
| 12:04:29 | planetis[m] | aha, found a bug! |
| 12:04:37 | FromDiscord | <Vindaar> never really understood that thought. do people actually try to keep github notifications at zero? |
| 12:04:47 | planetis[m] | with arc that causes oom |
| 12:04:59 | FromDiscord | <dom96> @Vindaar the problem is that I know I am missing things that I care about |
| 12:05:13 | FromDiscord | <dom96> Because of this I'd rather have less notifications that I have a chance to go through |
| 12:05:57 | FromDiscord | <Vindaar> I just use the repo filters for that |
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| 12:06:17 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> planetis: Nice! |
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| 12:07:07 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> @haxscramper Ah, found what you are searching for, you can do split(...).typeof(typeOfProc) is seq[string] |
| 12:10:05 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> Araq: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/14793 is ready, but please see my answer to your review comment |
| 12:10:05 | disbot | ➥ Fix #14396 |
| 12:12:15 | haxscramper | > If typeof is used to determine the result type of a proc/iterator/converter call c(X) ... , the interpretation where c is an iterator is **preferred over the other interpretations**, ... can be changed by passing typeOfProc as the second argument to typeof: |
| 12:12:15 | haxscramper | |
| 12:12:15 | haxscramper | |
| 12:12:30 | haxscramper | Right. Just missed this in documenation. |
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| 12:35:15 | FromDiscord | <Shucks> So I figured out that wrapped enums doesn't work for me correctly. If I use `cint` for `Mode` or `Method` it works how it should be. But once I use the enums like `INJECTION_MODE(0)` wrong data passes to the library. Are there any pragmas I'm missing? https://paste.sh/VpLI_-br#Z0XrbDKgZWsqaMVwW7rx_iEL |
| 12:36:39 | Yardanico | yeah |
| 12:37:05 | Yardanico | https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#set-type-bit-fields |
| 12:39:07 | Yardanico | but even then it might not work, you have to check that the enum you're wrapping really has powers of 2 |
| 12:43:10 | FromDiscord | <Shucks> with that pragma it works |
| 12:43:11 | FromDiscord | <Shucks> finally |
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| 12:44:55 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> planetism: Are you on the latest devel? |
| 12:45:15 | FromDiscord | <Clyybber> oh, I see you are |
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| 13:15:06 | Prestige | Are there many game libs available written in nim? I've just been playing around w/nico |
| 13:16:31 | PMunch | Nimgame2 and Frag, not sure how updated they are though |
| 13:17:03 | PMunch | Frag seems to be outdated.. But Nimgame2 seems to still be going |
| 13:17:40 | PMunch | This might help to answer your question: https://nimble.directory/search?query=game |
| 13:17:48 | Prestige | Looks neat |
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| 13:21:09 | PMunch | By the way Prestige there is #nim-gamedev as well |
| 13:24:56 | Zevv | Man I'm cringing all the time trying to do usefull stuff in go. No enums, no sum types or inheritence. Not even a way to check if a key exists in a map. It's truly a bit *too* spartan for me |
| 13:25:41 | Prestige | Yeah, I gave up on go pretty quickly |
| 13:25:46 | PMunch | What? No way to check if a key exists in a map? |
| 13:26:24 | FromDiscord | <Recruit_main707> We also have updated gosot bindings, but they are a bit wonky imo.↵They are bot bad nevertheless, and gokr recently wrapped ORX which might me a good option if you only need 2d |
| 13:27:01 | FromDiscord | <Recruit_main707> godot* i need to go back home and type on a keyboard soon or i will go crazy |
| 13:27:21 | FromDiscord | <Recruit_main707> (edit) 'bot' => 'not' |
| 13:28:03 | PMunch | What are you typing on now? A guitar? |
| 13:33:44 | FromDiscord | <Recruit_main707> Phone |
| 13:34:07 | Zoom[m] | Hm, you could probably hook up an audio-to-midi converter to a keyboard... |
| 13:34:36 | PMunch | Zoom[m], bit limiting to only be able to write with A-G though.. |
| 13:34:47 | Yardanico | do default values for proc arguments propagate effects of these default values to the proc? |
| 13:35:00 | Yardanico | I mean if you do proc myproc(a = someCallWithSideEffects()) |
| 13:35:10 | PMunch | Anyways, got to go |
| 13:35:21 | PMunch | Hmm, that is a very interesting question Yardanico, I'd guess not |
| 13:35:25 | Zoom[m] | Nah, just use three strings and map frets to keys in your favourite layout |
| 13:35:28 | Yardanico | a person in telegram has just asked about the reason why parsing time can't be side-effect free |
| 13:35:32 | Yardanico | even when you provide all values yourself |
| 13:35:37 | Yardanico | as zone or locale |
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| 13:35:48 | Yardanico | it still will have TimeEffect |
| 13:37:47 | FromDiscord | <Rika> PMunch: ez, frets for keys |
| 13:38:24 | FromDiscord | <Rika> Still kinda limits you to the range of the highest string and a few more |
| 13:38:28 | FromDiscord | <Rika> But that should be enough |
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| 14:39:55 | ForumUpdaterBot | New thread by HashBackupJim: NvP: creating and sorting a large array of tuples, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/6518 |
| 14:40:21 | Yardanico | what is NvP in this title^ ? |
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| 14:41:45 | supakeen | maybe they meant mvp? |
| 14:41:54 | Yardanico | It's the second time they're using this |
| 14:41:57 | Yardanico | e.g. https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/6481 |
| 14:42:02 | supakeen | oh, i've never seen it before |
| 14:42:11 | Yardanico | ah |
| 14:42:15 | Yardanico | "N-version programming (NVP), also known as multiversion programming or multiple-version dissimilar software, is a method or process in software engineering where multiple functionally equivalent programs are independently generated from the same initial specifications." |
| 14:42:20 | Yardanico | basically when comparing different versions |
| 14:42:29 | Yardanico | Python vs Nim for these threads |
| 14:42:45 | supakeen | oh wait |
| 14:42:47 | supakeen | maybe they mean |
| 14:42:51 | supakeen | 'Nim vs Python' |
| 14:42:58 | Yardanico | :D |
| 14:43:25 | supakeen | since they're comparing python and nim each time |
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| 14:56:41 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> yea they mean Nim vs Python |
| 15:01:19 | FromDiscord | <flywind> Does Nim has object construction hooks? I need to do generics type checking when object is initialized? |
| 15:01:30 | FromDiscord | <flywind> (edit) 'has' => 'have' |
| 15:02:33 | FromDiscord | <flywind> ```nim↵# needs to check U is subclass of T when d is initialized↵var d: Must[T, U]↵``` |
| 15:03:46 | FromDiscord | <flywind> just like implicit hooks such as `=sink`, `=`, and `=destroy` |
| 15:14:33 | FromDiscord | <Rika> Don't think so |
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| 15:22:51 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> so i was trying to make that currying macro |
| 15:22:56 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> and i think i got it |
| 15:23:06 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> but now im getting a message that it isnt used |
| 15:23:22 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> ```nim↵ let curried = curry(proc(x, y: int): int {.closure.} = x + y)↵ echo curried(3, 6)↵``` |
| 15:23:29 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> wait |
| 15:23:38 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> curried(3)(6) |
| 15:24:29 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> ```↵Error: expression 'proc (x: int): proc (y: int): int {.closure.} = result = proc (y: int): int {.closure.} = result = x +↵ ... y' is of type 'proc (x: int): proc (y: int): int{.closure.}{.closure, noSideEffect, gcsafe, locks: 0.}' and has to be discarded; for a function call use ()``` |
| 15:24:57 | FromDiscord | <KingDarBoja> Yardanico: Sweet graph |
| 15:24:58 | FromDiscord | <KingDarBoja> ❤️ |
| 15:25:05 | FromDiscord | <KingDarBoja> The package-author one ofc |
| 15:26:01 | Yardanico | well yeah, I had to spend a few hours in the morning because I didn't know neo4j at all (Jeff in telegram recommended it), and fixing stuff in the pkgraph thing |
| 15:26:08 | Yardanico | src is in https://github.com/Yardanico/nim-snippets/tree/master/pkgraph btw |
| 15:27:00 | Yardanico | most magic is in https://github.com/Yardanico/nim-snippets/blob/master/pkgraph/parse.nim |
| 15:27:08 | Yardanico | fetch is just boring fetching of all git repos |
| 15:30:42 | Yardanico | (which are in nimble) |
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| 15:47:33 | FromDiscord | <KingDarBoja> Ah, I knew it was familiar to me |
| 15:47:40 | FromDiscord | <KingDarBoja> Neo4J, I used it a little bit |
| 15:47:46 | Yardanico | well I can also emit .dot graph |
| 15:47:50 | Yardanico | it's much easier to do that :D |
| 15:48:25 | FromDiscord | <KingDarBoja> 😛 |
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| 16:25:09 | Avatarfighter | Hello everyone ! |
| 16:26:39 | FromDiscord | <Rika> hi |
| 16:29:53 | FromDiscord | <KingDarBoja> Helloo |
| 16:29:54 | FromDiscord | <KingDarBoja> ❤️ |
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| 16:37:45 | leorize | shashlick: how can I build the exportdynamic branch to reproduce again? |
| 16:38:25 | shashlick | hey |
| 16:38:34 | shashlick | just clone, checkout branch and then nimble test |
| 16:39:04 | shashlick | you could even nimble minitest - will build toast and then run the first wrapper test which will fail |
| 16:42:14 | leorize | shashlick: do you have some finer reproduction step that let me focus on one exact issue? :P |
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| 16:42:56 | shashlick | that's what i have right now but i can work on a minimal version |
| 16:46:33 | FromDiscord | <jseb> first versions of nim were written in Pascal. Interesting… seeing what Pascal has become after all those years of dominations (i believe it's Python, because Pascal was very popular in schools in the past) |
| 16:46:46 | FromDiscord | <jseb> (edit) 'dominations' => 'domination' |
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| 16:48:43 | FromDiscord | <Rika> ? |
| 16:49:11 | leorize | Araq said he wrote Nim in pascal because the alternatives were terrible iirc :P |
| 16:50:39 | leorize | shashlick: please do :) I'm trying this on my musl machine so the results might be different |
| 16:50:48 | leorize | for example I do have a stacktrace :P |
| 16:52:48 | FromDiscord | <lqdev> yeah I remember he said he didn't want to do it in c++ because switch case break sucks |
| 16:53:24 | shashlick | sure, i'm close |
| 16:54:06 | leorize | though I'd say that Nim does borrow element from the pascal line of languages, though they're closer to Writh later inventions of modula and oberon than pascal |
| 16:55:11 | FromDiscord | <jseb> is `x..y` (with x>y) the same thing as `countdown` function ? |
| 16:55:17 | leorize | no |
| 16:55:29 | leorize | x..y is countup only |
| 16:55:44 | FromDiscord | <Rika> wonder if itll be possible for that to be countdown when drnim comes |
| 16:55:50 | FromDiscord | <Rika> countdown *too |
| 16:56:03 | Yardanico | drnim won't be default anyway |
| 16:56:09 | leorize | it's deliberately designed to not countdown :) |
| 16:56:15 | leorize | copied from pascal/ada I think |
| 16:56:17 | FromDiscord | <Rika> why? |
| 16:56:24 | leorize | prevent bugs |
| 16:56:29 | Yardanico | drnim? because solving all the equations is slow |
| 16:56:32 | Yardanico | even with Z3 |
| 16:58:26 | FromDiscord | <jseb> ok. And is concurrency the same thing as a coroutine ? |
| 16:58:35 | FromDiscord | <jseb> (sleep/yield) |
| 16:58:37 | Yardanico | ? |
| 16:58:53 | Yardanico | there are both concurrency and parallelism in nim |
| 16:58:53 | leorize | yes and no |
| 16:58:58 | Yardanico | concurrency is isually done via async |
| 16:59:00 | Yardanico | parallelism - threads |
| 16:59:12 | leorize | and async is not goroutines :P |
| 16:59:35 | FromDiscord | <jseb> i don't know go, i was thinking of Lua |
| 16:59:57 | leorize | definitely not the same as in lua if Zevv is to be trusted |
| 17:00:21 | FromDiscord | <jseb> ok, i will go back on this later anyway |
| 17:00:26 | FromDiscord | <jseb> thank you |
| 17:00:41 | FromDiscord | <Rika> lua's coroutines are stronger in a way |
| 17:00:47 | leorize | he was working on a library to make it work like Lua, but postponed the work iirc |
| 17:02:51 | leorize | shashlick: where can I see the new nightlies test failures again? I'm gonna see if I can solve them |
| 17:02:52 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> how to get the future value when calling poll() manually assuming future.finished == true? |
| 17:03:03 | leorize | future.get |
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| 17:05:25 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> oo |
| 17:05:39 | shashlick | @leorize - here's the last run - https://travis-ci.org/github/genotrance/nightest/builds/702584173 |
| 17:05:42 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> it's read() but lead me to the correct answer so thanx |
| 17:06:19 | leorize | np |
| 17:09:23 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> hmm my error seems to be the same as the one in https://gist.github.com/cooldome/0f334cc0feaf5ac1c60082b73eec8a25 |
| 17:09:28 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> not that that helps at all |
| 17:10:36 | shashlick | @leorize - my minimal example works fine with arc |
| 17:10:41 | shashlick | fails with boehm |
| 17:11:38 | leorize | JackFly26: can we see the code? |
| 17:11:51 | leorize | shashlick: interesting, still the same sigsegv? |
| 17:14:08 | shashlick | not exactly |
| 17:15:17 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> um i sent some of the code earlier |
| 17:16:14 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2qU6 |
| 17:16:30 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> im sure there are better ways to do this but im new to macros so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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| 17:17:48 | leorize | so... what are you trying to do? |
| 17:18:42 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> make a macro that curries a function |
| 17:18:53 | disruptek | !repo currying |
| 17:18:54 | disbot | https://github.com/t8m8/currying -- 9currying: 11Currying Library for Nim 15 36⭐ 4🍴 |
| 17:19:10 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> i swear i looked up "nim currying" and nothing came up |
| 17:19:38 | Yardanico | also https://github.com/zer0-star/nim-curry |
| 17:20:02 | leorize | https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2qU9 |
| 17:20:12 | leorize | your macro does work if that's what you're wondering about |
| 17:20:52 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> what it didnt earlier |
| 17:20:57 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> i tried binding it to a var |
| 17:21:29 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> weird |
| 17:21:33 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> works in playground |
| 17:21:42 | Yardanico | what's your nim version? |
| 17:21:57 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> i upgraded like 3 days ago |
| 17:21:58 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> idk |
| 17:22:06 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> 1.2.0 |
| 17:22:13 | shashlick | @leorize - my minimal version works fine with arc so i think once arc supports toast, we might be able to get it to work |
| 17:22:17 | leorize | yea the latest is 1.2.4 now :p |
| 17:22:33 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> ok it works now weird |
| 17:23:00 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> well the aur says otherwise |
| 17:23:07 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> is there a better place to install nim from |
| 17:23:14 | leorize | shashlick: well I just built toast with arc if you're wondering |
| 17:23:24 | FromDiscord | <Recruit_main707> Official page |
| 17:23:25 | shashlick | compiling toast with --gc:arc now with latest head and get an internal error |
| 17:24:09 | leorize | shashlick: it just works here |
| 17:24:14 | leorize | though I'm one commit behind |
| 17:24:37 | shashlick | i'm on af27e6bdea63bbf66718193ec44bc61e745ded38 |
| 17:24:46 | leorize | 1854d29781aff913ca6892cbf73df91b0399397e here |
| 17:24:59 | leorize | JackFly26: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/nim/ |
| 17:25:03 | leorize | it's marked out of date |
| 17:25:08 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> oh |
| 17:25:13 | Yardanico | choosenim |
| 17:25:33 | leorize | iirc manjaro have an updated version (which is kinda insulting to see :P) |
| 17:25:38 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> oof |
| 17:25:42 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> ok ill get choosenim |
| 17:25:52 | disruptek | ~gitnim |
| 17:25:53 | disbot | gitnim: 11https://gitnim.com/ -- choosenim for choosey nimions -- disruptek |
| 17:26:10 | leorize | I never understand why the maintainer just doesn't let the package go if they don't want to maintain it |
| 17:26:30 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> yeah idk |
| 17:26:55 | disruptek | !repo disruptek/skiplists |
| 17:26:55 | disbot | https://github.com/disruptek/skiplists -- 9skiplists: 11 15 0⭐ 0🍴 |
| 17:27:02 | leorize | if there's demand I can push an AUR package for Nim (and if there's someone willing to maintain it) |
| 17:27:14 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> well theres also nim-git |
| 17:27:18 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> would that be up to date |
| 17:27:39 | disruptek | git nim is updated almost daily. |
| 17:28:04 | shashlick | @leorize - nope, even with that commit, get the internal error |
| 17:28:14 | shashlick | what did you change to get arc working |
| 17:28:16 | Yardanico | shashlick: can you compile with koch temp c? |
| 17:28:17 | leorize | shashlick: I'm building from exportdynamic branch |
| 17:28:20 | Yardanico | to show full stacktrace |
| 17:28:22 | leorize | just swapped boehm with arch |
| 17:28:25 | leorize | arc* |
| 17:29:21 | leorize | jackfly26: the git one is also out of date in term of the build script... |
| 17:29:26 | shashlick | @leorize - try the master branch and change to arc - both in toast.nims and in getters |
| 17:30:07 | leorize | getters? |
| 17:30:22 | shashlick | nimterop/toastlib/getters.nim - it compiles the plugin |
| 17:30:29 | shashlick | i don't have code yet to detect the gc |
| 17:30:37 | shashlick | loadPlugin |
| 17:30:41 | leorize | compiled toast and working |
| 17:30:44 | Oddmonger | nim arch is 1.2.0 |
| 17:31:45 | shashlick | hmm - doesn't even compile for me |
| 17:31:55 | Oddmonger | why is it flagged out-of-date ? |
| 17:32:02 | leorize | because it's out of date |
| 17:32:07 | leorize | we're now at 1.2.4 |
| 17:32:31 | Oddmonger | oh |
| 17:32:43 | leorize | and there are many many things that are wrong with that build script... |
| 17:32:45 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> ok well the macro now magically works |
| 17:32:46 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> thanks |
| 17:33:00 | Yardanico | leorize: cross-compilation is one of them :P |
| 17:33:04 | FromDiscord | <JackFly26> it would be nice to make it also work as a pragma but im lazy |
| 17:33:19 | Yardanico | https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/67092 no replies, although they assigned the current "maintainer" of the nim packages |
| 17:33:22 | Yardanico | package* |
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| 17:33:56 | leorize | I can hack up a PKGBUILD for you if you would like to maintain it |
| 17:36:51 | Oddmonger | the arch problem is good to know, i was just trying to set up NDK env for android (don't know it it uses GCC) |
| 17:37:05 | shashlick | @leorize @yardanico - here's the koch temp output - http://ix.io/2qUd |
| 17:39:32 | leorize | I'm gonna try clearing out my nimble dir |
| 17:40:11 | leorize | yep, that does the trick |
| 17:41:15 | leorize | I'm using an older version of pretty much all packages :P |
| 17:41:20 | leorize | unicodedb 0.7.2 |
| 17:41:34 | leorize | cligen #head but like 5 months old |
| 17:41:49 | shashlick | ya i never keep #head versions around - they override all version checks |
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| 18:00:13 | Oddmonger | is it ok to use nim-git from AUR, for archlinux ? |
| 18:01:21 | krux02 | Oddmonger, probably. |
| 18:01:59 | Oddmonger | i ask this, because there is no «conflict» defined on the community/nim , in the PKGBUILD |
| 18:02:20 | Oddmonger | oops |
| 18:02:24 | Oddmonger | my bad, there is |
| 18:03:02 | leorize | nim-git from AUR make less wrong choices but still plenty of them |
| 18:03:56 | leorize | not their fault, really, we haven't got a streamlined way to easily package nim, which I'll have to tackle eventually |
| 18:04:54 | Oddmonger | it seems complicated indeed |
| 18:05:12 | disruptek | nim-git? |
| 18:05:45 | disruptek | oh, it's an os package? |
| 18:06:35 | Oddmonger | user repo for archlinux |
| 18:06:54 | Oddmonger | but seems better than the official :/ |
| 18:07:27 | disruptek | just try gitnim. |
| 18:10:03 | Oddmonger | ok i'll try, thank you |
| 18:10:21 | leorize | @timotheecour how does your testament batching thing works? |
| 18:10:39 | leorize | is it windows-only and how many splits can it do? |
| 18:11:06 | krux02 | I wrote testament batching |
| 18:11:19 | krux02 | if you talk about megatest |
| 18:11:37 | leorize | no, it's the new NIM_TESTATMENT_BATCH thingy |
| 18:11:55 | leorize | split the suite into smaller chunks which we can parallelize by spawning more builders |
| 18:12:11 | leorize | (read: different machines to run them concurrently) |
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| 18:12:42 | krux02 | ok, can't help with that. |
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| 18:26:35 | Zevv | leorize: I'm not to be trusted |
| 18:32:06 | disruptek | leorize: me either. |
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| 19:41:30 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/729059329906573473/unknown.png |
| 19:41:48 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> how to pass req by reference here? |
| 19:42:32 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> i've tried to read about it but i'm failing to understand exactly what ref is in nim 😅 |
| 19:42:55 | FromDiscord | <Rika> use var if you need to modify it |
| 19:43:03 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> but if i just try to pass a Request around i get gcsafe errors |
| 19:43:24 | FromDiscord | <Rika> then just change request itself to be a `ref object`? |
| 19:43:30 | FromDiscord | <Rika> not sure what you want tbh |
| 19:44:54 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> A reference is a managed pointer, one that the collection system can see and handle. Atleast that's my understanding |
| 19:46:36 | FromDiscord | <Rika> yes |
| 19:49:15 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> And references being pointers means that the values are mutable even without specification, in the case you use `let a = refObject` a can be mutated, but not reassigned |
| 19:50:55 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> https://pastebin.com/raw/cniR60eL |
| 19:52:04 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> i'm trying to use asynchttpserver, but having problems passing around the request from my first handler to another due to my understanding of this |
| 19:52:29 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> i get a gcsafe error with this for example |
| 19:53:12 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Request isnt a reference? |
| 19:53:46 | FromDiscord | <Rika> are you accessing globals with the handler |
| 19:53:56 | FromDiscord | <Rika> thatll gcsafe error you |
| 19:54:06 | FromDiscord | <Rika> i think... |
| 19:54:52 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Async happens all on the same thread doesnt it? |
| 19:54:56 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> i don't know how to pass it by reference to another_handler (if that's what i'm supposed to do) |
| 19:55:13 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> or if thats just an implicit thing |
| 19:55:18 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> that should work |
| 19:55:27 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Well no i was merely asking cause i thought this was threaded, and if it was you were attempting to share heap across threads |
| 19:55:31 | FromDiscord | <Rika> you're not |
| 19:55:46 | FromDiscord | <Rika> are you using globals in either of the handlers |
| 19:56:09 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> i will check |
| 19:56:24 | FromDiscord | <Rika> like for example that cfg object thingy |
| 20:02:22 | FromDiscord | <Rika> @ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀 tbh, you can just "risk it" and mark both handlers as gcsafe by adding that beside async |
| 20:02:49 | FromDiscord | <Rika> so `{.async, gcsafe.}` but i think its better to refactor to remove the warning |
| 20:02:54 | FromDiscord | <Rika> or error rather |
| 20:04:09 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> yeh thanks i think you're right i must be messing up somewhere, adding that did fix it but i also want to find out what i did wrong 😅 |
| 20:10:24 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> ah it was happening from my global config object, which i'd unhelpfully trimmed from the pastebin 😢 |
| 20:11:22 | FromDiscord | <Rika> guessed it though since you didnt remove it from the Port setting |
| 20:11:30 | FromDiscord | <Rika> did i? |
| 20:11:36 | FromDiscord | <Rika> > like for example that cfg object thingy↵yeah here |
| 20:11:49 | FromDiscord | <ｌｉｌａｈ ▸ 🎀> :P |
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| 20:24:20 | shashlick | @leorize - so you could reproduce the internal error? |
| 20:29:02 | oddp | Is the chief secretly working on the next big feature for nim to conquer all other langs? Haven't seen him in a while in here. |
| 20:29:36 | FromDiscord | <Rika> dunno, prolly bug squishing |
| 20:29:54 | leorize | he always secretly work on something :P in this case gc:arc/orc |
| 20:30:04 | leorize | shashlick: yea reproduced |
| 20:30:10 | leorize | not sure which deps caused it |
| 20:30:14 | shashlick | okay cool |
| 20:30:14 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Imagine if we just redirected all language websites to nim-lang.org |
| 20:30:17 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> We'd be the cool kids |
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| 20:32:17 | oddp | Not enough pattern matching capabilities to be considered cool. ;) |
| 20:32:27 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Damn |
| 20:32:39 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Go add them so we can be |
| 20:32:47 | Zoom[m] | I've just started watching the Omni talk from NimConf and the mistake in explaining of how digital audio works happens too soon. |
| 20:34:57 | Zoom[m] | It's 2020, we should overcome that myth: higher samplerates do not provide higher sound representation accuracy! Samplerate determines the maximum encoded frequency, that's all. |
| 20:37:00 | oddp | Yeah, needs more borito analogies. Especially since sampling rate in digital audio is just a monoid in the category of endofunctors. |
| 20:37:11 | oddp | burrito, oops. |
| 20:38:11 | Zoom[m] | Yeah, right, of course. |
| 20:38:48 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> What's orc? |
| 20:38:52 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> Is it just arc? |
| 20:38:55 | FromDiscord | <Rika> arc with a cycle detector |
| 20:38:57 | FromDiscord | <Rika> or something |
| 20:38:59 | FromDiscord | <Rika> cycle something |
| 20:39:02 | FromDiscord | <Rika> i dont really know |
| 20:39:16 | oddp | Yeah, arc + cycle detection. |
| 20:39:32 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> O |
| 20:39:42 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> Is it better to use orc over arc then? |
| 20:39:52 | FromDiscord | <Rika> not really |
| 20:39:59 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> Oh? |
| 20:40:01 | FromDiscord | <Rika> you dont always need the cycle detection afaik |
| 20:40:02 | oddp | 4raq's recent nimconf talk is pretty cool. |
| 20:40:07 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> Oh okay |
| 20:40:10 | FromDiscord | <Rika> also i think it has a runtime cost? no clue |
| 20:40:11 | oddp | He talks about these collectors. |
| 20:40:18 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> O |
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| 20:40:24 | FromDiscord | <Rika> rc |
| 20:40:25 | FromDiscord | <Rika> 😛 |
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| 20:46:46 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> :P |
| 20:46:57 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> I need to actually get working on a project- |
| 20:47:13 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> I need a project that I won't quit :/ |
| 20:47:16 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> And you moved through 10 seperate projects in the course of that sentence |
| 20:47:25 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> :P |
| 20:47:48 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> ~~Maybe a websocket chat program-~~ |
| 20:48:10 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Just what we need slack 6.0 |
| 20:49:13 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> Lmao |
| 20:49:24 | FromDiscord | <Rika> discord 2 |
| 20:50:44 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> We already have riot.im, so aslong as you can make a good voice service for it we'll be fine |
| 20:50:51 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Wait they're rebranding with new features soon |
| 20:51:11 | oddp | But it's so easy! 1) Think about idea. 2) Read and save user's clipboard each keypress 3) ... 4) Profit! |
| 20:51:27 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Damn what are you a IOS app dev?! |
| 20:51:41 | oddp | Think about all that ad profiling moneyz!!! |
| 20:51:56 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Think about all the passwords we can sell! |
| 20:53:23 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Well if you do make a websocket chat client make sure you use fidget for the UI 😄 |
| 20:53:45 | oddp | Cool. Will you join my startup? ;) |
| 20:53:57 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> I assume it's revshare? |
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| 20:54:02 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> If so sign me up! |
| 20:54:06 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> I love working for no pay |
| 20:54:26 | FromDiscord | <Rika> i already do that every day! |
| 20:54:32 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Same |
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| 21:30:10 | disruptek | i haven't even finished the impl and skiplists are already breaking arc. |
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| 22:36:34 | FromGitter | <mikebelanger> Hi guys. Really digging Jester so far. One thing though - I can't seem to serve a static file, if I add routes manually. Like so ```import jester, asyncdispatch, asyncnet ⏎ ⏎ const ⏎ home = "/" ⏎ index = "/index.html" ... [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5f010471fa0c9221fc7c00b5] |
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| 22:50:02 | PMunch | @mikebelanger, did you delete your message on GitHub? |
| 22:50:21 | PMunch | I tried to see the full message but the link seems to not point to anything |
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| 23:41:05 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> Does arc work with asynchronous stuff yet? |
| 23:41:58 | FromDiscord | <Rika> thats why orc exists |
| 23:44:17 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> Wait, orc works with asynchronous stuff? |
| 23:45:03 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> Also how would i get a string from a .so file i compiled? :P |
| 23:45:35 | FromDiscord | <Rika> orc is supposed to work for async |
| 23:45:44 | FromDiscord | <Rika> but i dont think it works just yet? |
| 23:46:41 | FromDiscord | <Technisha Circuit (LGBTQIAP+)> Oh okay |
| 23:49:34 | bung_ | can I have optinal generic type ? |
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| 23:59:36 | FromDiscord | <Rika> bung_ wdym? |
| 23:59:51 | FromDiscord | <Rika> there's an `Option` type in the `options` module |
