| 00:00:22 | tmm1 | do you have any advice for debugging dll failures in https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/3403#issuecomment-145193256 |
| 00:03:57 | Araq | no. I don't use DLLs/shared objs on Unix if I can avoid it. |
| 00:07:07 | tmm1 | i'm not sure why it produces no error output |
| 00:07:19 | tmm1 | tests pass for me locally on mac and linux |
| 00:07:46 | tmm1 | does c2nim need the compiler nimble to build? |
| 00:07:55 | Araq | yes |
| 00:09:27 | onionhammer | i want a sticker :( |
| 00:09:33 | onionhammer | but i dont want to go to amsterdam |
| 00:09:46 | onionhammer | well scratch that, I want to go to amsterdam but dont want to pay for a plane ticket :) |
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| 00:33:43 | tmm1 | should i run the c2nim tests on travis with the latest nim@devel or nim 0.11.2? |
| 00:33:57 | tmm1 | the results are different between the two due to whitespace and other changes |
| 00:34:05 | tmm1 | maybe c2nim job should always build the latest nim? |
| 00:34:36 | Araq | c2nim should use nim@devel |
| 00:38:25 | gmpreussner|work | is it possible to have an alias for an enum member in a pure enumeration? |
| 00:38:46 | gmpreussner|work | i know that i can declare a constant outside of the enum to create the alias, but i want it namespaced |
| 00:38:59 | Araq | yes and no. |
| 00:39:21 | Araq | yes, I know you want namespaced, no it doesn't exist |
| 00:40:36 | gmpreussner|work | sadness |
| 00:40:56 | Araq | btw I'm using non-pure enums without prefixes now. works well too, if there is a conflict, I can always use Enum.foo |
| 00:41:24 | gmpreussner|work | imho pure enums should be the default :) |
| 00:41:31 | gmpreussner|work | non-pure is so oldskool C |
| 00:42:01 | gmpreussner|work | i can't use non-pure without prefix. i'd get massive collisions everywhere |
| 00:42:11 | gmpreussner|work | so i'd end up using Enum.bla everywhere anyway |
| 00:42:44 | sdw | is there a preferred paste site for nim? |
| 00:43:31 | gmpreussner|work | sdw: most people use Gist, i think |
| 00:43:43 | gmpreussner|work | i also see pastebin a lot |
| 00:43:57 | gmpreussner|work | both have support for Nim |
| 00:47:12 | sdw | http://pastebin.com/Wns3jTWz |
| 00:47:50 | sdw | does this look like a compiler bug? |
| 00:48:47 | Araq | yes |
| 00:49:05 | sdw | ill reduce more and submit |
| 00:49:39 | Araq | no, it's fine the way it is. |
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| 00:50:09 | Araq | we don't want to overfit the compiler, we want it to compile real code |
| 00:51:19 | Araq | I don't believe in D's ranges btw ;-) |
| 00:51:47 | Araq | integer based indexing is **far** superior |
| 00:52:12 | Araq | it's immediately serializable for example. |
| 00:52:34 | Araq | since you have an actual index and not a freaking pointer |
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| 00:53:43 | Araq | an index also stays the same when you realloc your array. |
| 00:53:58 | sdw | I think you're referring to D's arrays, not ranges |
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| 00:54:24 | Araq | I think I know perfectly well what I'm referring to. |
| 00:54:56 | sdw | well, your arguments don't apply to ranges :P |
| 00:55:27 | sdw | but yes I agree there is a tradeoff |
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| 00:59:17 | Araq | if every slice is a range and my argument does apply to slices, I fail to see how it's not relevant for general ranges |
| 00:59:42 | gmpreussner|work | Araq: i think i will just rename the pure enum value to something like Enum.AorB. that is better anyway. |
| 00:59:54 | Araq | gmpreussner|work: ok ... ;-) |
| 01:00:20 | gmpreussner|work | we still need to fix the comment syntax. it's still so broken for enum and tuple. i will add a unit test later. |
| 01:00:23 | sdw | Maybe I don't understand ranges. I thought my concept I pasted is what they call an input range, which doesn't need to be an array |
| 01:01:13 | Araq | gmpreussner|work: hu? ah ok, got it. |
| 01:02:01 | Araq | that might turn out to be hard to support in the parser |
| 01:03:50 | Araq | you want |
| 01:03:52 | Araq | enum |
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| 01:03:59 | Araq | field |
| 01:04:05 | Araq | ## doc here |
| 01:04:09 | Araq | right? |
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| 01:10:50 | Araq | good nightt |
| 01:10:59 | sdw | night Araq |
| 01:11:03 | sdw | dream of ranges |
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| 01:16:15 | tmm1 | hmm when i do `nimble install compiler` its installing 0.10.3 instead of 0.11.3 |
| 01:16:43 | sdw | I reported that yesterday. The version labels are wrong |
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| 01:17:30 | sdw | https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/3412#issuecomment-145250784 |
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| 01:22:07 | tmm1 | how can i tell it to build from a specific tag? |
| 01:22:22 | tmm1 | or better yet, can i have nimble use compiler.nimble from my existing nim checkout? |
| 01:23:07 | tmm1 | i see, just `nimble install` in the checkout |
| 01:23:35 | sdw | here is how nimsuggest got around it: https://github.com/nim-lang/nimsuggest/issues/14#event-425974358 |
| 01:24:09 | tmm1 | i see, nimble install "compiler#head" |
| 01:24:09 | sdw | so I would guess nimble install compiler#head |
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| 01:33:47 | tmm1 | https://github.com/nim-lang/c2nim/pull/55 can be merged |
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| 08:07:05 | rku`` | i build compiler and nimble myself on win8.1, all good. then i want to build nimsuggest using "nimble build" but it hangs forever without any output. anyone have any clue why would that be? same happens with prebuilt nimble binaries.. |
| 08:07:18 | rku`` | i run it from msys shell, w/ git and gcc and all.. |
| 08:08:23 | Araq | try the ordinary terminal please |
| 08:09:06 | rku`` | what ordinary terminal? cmd.exe? |
| 08:10:03 | Araq | yes |
| 08:10:13 | rku`` | starting it from cmd.exe does exactly the same. idk why it kind of terminal app should matter at all |
| 08:10:25 | Araq | because of buffering behaviour |
| 08:10:42 | Araq | only cmd.exe can tell apps they run in a tty on windows. |
| 08:11:04 | Araq | (it's incredibly stupid...) |
| 08:11:11 | rku`` | sounds so yes.. |
| 08:11:23 | rku`` | well it doesnt help anyhow.. |
| 08:11:39 | rku`` | maybe there is a shortcut to build nimsuggest without nimble? |
| 08:12:05 | Araq | nim c nimsuggest # should do the job |
| 08:12:42 | rku`` | yeah no.. it doesnt find compiler files. when i drop nimsuggest.nim and that other nim file to compiler dir - it cant find something else |
| 08:14:01 | Araq | nimble install compiler#head |
| 08:14:53 | rku`` | oh wow i missed cfg when copying stuff to compiler dir |
| 08:14:55 | rku`` | now it works |
| 08:15:24 | Araq | yeah but it's annoying enough so that I will fix the compiler to not rely on a non-default path |
| 08:15:26 | rku`` | thanks |
| 08:16:23 | Araq | I use Nimscript quite heavily and the "cannot find rstast.nim" is a pain |
| 08:17:27 | rku`` | i wonder if its not same error heh |
| 08:17:33 | rku`` | nimscript is awsome yeah |
| 08:17:48 | rku`` | just need it to start honoring flags fully ^_^ |
| 08:27:46 | Araq | what flags do you mean? |
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| 10:27:32 | federico3 | dom96? |
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| 15:20:26 | r-ku | back. Araq i described it on forum http://forum.nim-lang.org/t/1544/6#10540 |
| 15:21:01 | r-ku | in short - while "when defined(release)" is working as expected (it is defined as far as code is concerned) compiler still builds debug version |
| 15:21:13 | r-ku | thats when using --define:release in script |
| 15:21:25 | r-ku | same with switch("define", "release") |
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| 18:24:43 | Demos | Question: Should a statement like variable = TGenericObject[A,B,C]() be legal? |
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| 20:43:50 | gmpreussner|work | i stumbled upon filwit's forum post about his 'impl' macro here: http://forum.nim-lang.org/t/935#5593 |
| 20:44:08 | gmpreussner|work | can someone explain to me what his note at the bottom wrt domain specific interfaces means? |
| 20:44:37 | gmpreussner|work | in particular, what does "impl Button as GuiItem" do? does that define a type alias for Button? |
| 20:45:12 | gmpreussner|work | i suppose that's kind of akin to implementing interfaces, yes? |
| 20:45:55 | gmpreussner|work | ah, nevermind, he writes further down that the 'as Interface' stuff isn't implemented yet |
| 21:07:48 | Araq | hi Mat4 |
| 21:08:44 | Araq | r-ku: try the same in a traditional .nimcfg file. it doesn't work either. why? exercise left for the reader. |
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| 21:09:51 | Mat4 | hi Araq |
| 21:09:52 | Araq | *hint* we do not want to re-evaluate configuration files until a fixpoint was reached |
| 21:09:57 | crack81 | Hi guys |
| 21:10:06 | Mat4 | hello crack81 |
| 21:10:09 | crack81 | I from Mexico |
| 21:10:10 | Araq | hi crack81 welcome |
| 21:12:36 | NimBot | nim-lang/Nim devel be991ed Adam Strzelecki [+3 ±13 -2]: Rename rawsockets module to nativesockets... 8 more lines |
| 21:12:36 | NimBot | nim-lang/Nim devel 8f2b15d Dominik Picheta [+3 ±13 -2]: Merge pull request #3395 from nanoant/patch/rename-rawsockets-to-nativesockets... 2 more lines |
| 21:13:08 | crack81 | Are you use Nim in windows or in other S.O? |
| 21:15:57 | Araq | crack81: Nim runs pretty much everywhere |
| 21:16:13 | reactormonk | probably not your toaster. |
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| 21:17:48 | NimBot | nim-lang/Nim devel 77d4788 JamesP [+0 ±1 -0]: Add toRational(float) conversion from any float to closest... 1 more lines |
| 21:17:48 | NimBot | nim-lang/Nim devel 6587f63 Dominik Picheta [+0 ±1 -0]: Merge pull request #3415 from jlp765/rationals2... 2 more lines |
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| 22:18:18 | cncl | hi. nim is super cool. i'm playing around with it in windows right now. i'm building using msvc. is there a way to use a debugger? docs indicate endb is abandoned(?) and i'm not using gcc |
| 22:19:11 | Araq | Demos created "VisualNimrod". haven't played with it yet, but it should support visual studio's debugger |
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| 22:19:47 | Demos | Hey, yeah visual nimrod does support the debugger, but it is pretty out of date (for example completion will most definately not work) |
| 22:20:15 | cncl | ah i see |
| 22:20:19 | Demos | if you compiler with --debugger:native you should get debug symbols, you can then attach visual studio to your executable |
| 22:20:48 | cncl | --debugger:native actually seems to go wrong with msvc in the version of nim i have |
| 22:20:56 | cncl | but just regular -d:debug proces .pdb correctly |
| 22:20:59 | Demos | you can also put {.emit:"__debugBreak();".} near the start of your program, which will bring up a dialog to attach to a debugger when you start your program |
| 22:20:59 | cncl | er, produces |
| 22:21:08 | cncl | oh awesome |
| 22:21:12 | Demos | umm, try --parallelBuild:1 |
| 22:21:36 | Demos | msvc has trouble generating pdb when there's more than one compiler running at once |
| 22:21:37 | cncl | yeah i did, it actually produces a file named $projectname.pdb |
| 22:21:53 | Demos | yeah, that seems to work for me though |
| 22:21:56 | Araq | nim devel doesn't require --parallelBuild:1 anymore btw |
| 22:22:14 | Araq | the compiler automatically reruns without parallelism |
| 22:22:19 | cncl | ah |
| 22:22:22 | Araq | when the C compiler complains |
| 22:22:42 | cncl | without --debugger:native and with -d:debug, i get mything.pdb correctly, instead of $projectname.pdb, dunno if that means anything |
| 22:22:51 | Demos | I get $projectName.pdb as well as a "real pdb" |
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| 22:25:06 | cncl | thanks |
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| 22:45:08 | crack81 | How i can convert one cstring to a PVoid |
| 22:46:11 | Araq | cast[pointer](mycstring) |
| 22:53:04 | crack81 | sorry, i'm using the windows api, the function SystemParametersInfo but i don't understand why is not working |
| 22:53:34 | crack81 | third parameter |
| 22:56:14 | cncl | what is your code, and the error? |
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| 23:00:10 | crack81 | return false i think that third parameter is not being casted |
| 23:01:03 | crack81 | i pass a cstring example image="photo.bmp" |
| 23:01:48 | cncl | sorry, don't understand |
| 23:04:15 | crack81 | I am sorry, this example I want translate |
| 23:04:19 | crack81 | http://indetectables.net/viewtopic.php?f=98&t=53790 |
| 23:05:20 | cncl | and your code? |
| 23:06:58 | crack81 | proc cambiarFondo(name: cstring):bool= return bool(SystemParametersInfo(20,0,addr name[0],0)) |
| 23:07:45 | cncl | the type will be wrong |
| 23:07:54 | cncl | you have to use cast to turn it into a void pointer |
| 23:10:08 | crack81 | it is ironic in c or delphi only raisins the reference to first position of the string |
| 23:10:59 | cncl | nim does not implicitly cast addresses to void pointers |
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| 23:14:11 | crack81 | then in this case==> cast[PVoid](image) |
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