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| 14:49:25 | Araq | dom96: yes. we don't trace the heap, so heap sizes don't matter. |
| 14:51:23 | dom96 | Cool. We need to advertise that a lot more. |
| 14:52:09 | dom96 | Going to make an issue with a list of awesome things about Nim that we should mention on our website (in the website repo) |
| 14:52:31 | Araq | more pressing is to remove the M&S step completely from Nim. |
| 14:52:55 | Araq | that means Swift-like "weak" pointers to break up cycles |
| 14:53:09 | dom96 | ahh, so cycles are a problem for us? |
| 14:53:24 | Araq | when you want realtime behaviour, yes |
| 14:53:37 | Araq | I tried to make the M&S step incremental for this reason |
| 14:53:46 | Araq | but meh, it's just the wrong solution, IMO. |
| 14:54:27 | dom96 | https://github.com/nim-lang/website/issues/6 |
| 14:54:42 | dom96 | Feel free to add things here |
| 14:55:08 | Araq | the deferred RC algorithm Nim uses is really very good. but the language should embrace it instead of abstract over it. imo. |
| 14:56:41 | Araq | anyway, we need to find a way to generate acyclic closures |
| 14:56:46 | Calinou | hi dom96 :) looks good, we definitely should have a complete feature list on site |
| 15:03:51 | dom96 | Calinou: Maybe we could also have a list of features that we showcase on the front page and then a page with a complete feature list. I guess that's exactly what you have in mind already :) |
| 15:04:18 | Calinou | yeah |
| 15:06:18 | federico3 | dom96: can nimble tasks call each other? |
| 15:06:56 | dom96 | federico3: good question, I can't remember. Try it and see :) |
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| 15:15:29 | federico3 | dom96: well, calling the tasks by name doesn't work and listing child tasks in the parent definition line (like a makefile) doesn't work either... that's why I asked |
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| 15:23:19 | Araq | federico3: `name task`() |
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| 15:31:39 | dom96 | Don't call them by name. Use exec or selfExec |
| 15:41:25 | federico3 | dom96: what's the syntax? selfExec taskname and selfExec "taskname" are not working |
| 15:41:56 | dom96 | selfExec "nimble taskname" |
| 15:43:09 | federico3 | vm.nim(238) rawExecute \n SIGSEGV: Illegal storage access. (Attempt to read from nil?) |
| 15:45:50 | dom96 | exec then? |
| 15:45:59 | dom96 | and report that as an issue |
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| 17:47:33 | Salewski | Is it the case that proc parameters of type proc can generally have no default values? At least this seems to be not possible: |
| 17:47:37 | Salewski | proc sort[T](a: var openArray[T]; cmp: proc (x, y: T): int = system.cmp[T]) = |
| 17:50:04 | Salewski | I tried also assigning nil as default and tried overwriting inside of proc, but seems not to work. |
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| 18:19:49 | Araq | Salewski: they can have default values, but the implied generic instantiation causes trouble |
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| 18:30:38 | Salewski | OK, thanks. |
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| 18:36:01 | cmd_not_found | howdy |
| 18:36:28 | cmd_not_found | I've just spent 15 minutes googling trying to find out how to check if two ref object instances are the same instance |
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| 18:37:44 | cmd_not_found | but failed. How do I do that? |
| 18:43:05 | cmd_not_found | ok: (addr a) == (addr b) seems to work on two created instances. Must be something with my code overwriting a field somewhere (hence the failed comparison) |
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