<< 05-01-2025 >>
00:45:22FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Does Nim hae float128?
00:53:02FromDiscord<bostonboston> https://gist.github.com/apense/d7afe800ecb32b877059
00:53:10FromDiscord<bostonboston> Not in system
00:57:11FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @bostonboston "https://gist.github.com/apense/d7afe800ecb32b877059": Is it even supported on Intel CPUs?
01:04:40FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Should I use the treshold everytime a module outputs?
01:34:19FromDiscord<bostonboston> That particular code snippet? No idea.
01:34:36FromDiscord<bostonboston> But I do believe modern x86 Intel CPUs have 128 bit floating point instructions somewhere
01:36:52FromDiscord<bostonboston> Maybe that's a lie
01:37:53FromDiscord<bostonboston> But gcc msvc and clang seem to implement 128 bit floats somehow
01:37:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> SIMD has a bunch of extensions and larger than 64bit registers↵(@bostonboston)
01:38:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> They're likely in software
01:39:13FromDiscord<bostonboston> I was aware of that, but I didn't know if it supported 128bit instructions, rather than just the vector instructions
01:39:28FromDiscord<bostonboston> Operations I should say
02:09:20FromDiscord<determiedmech1> hey guys↵quick question↵↵ive been messing around with using [KubeJS](https://kubejs.com) with nim but i've not gotten super into all the backend stuff yet so i was wondering how i'd do [this](<https://kubejs.com/wiki/tutorials/block-registry#:~:text=StartupEvents.registry(%27block%27%2C%20event%20%3D%3E%20%7B%0A%20%20event.create(%27example_block%27)%20//%20Create%20a%20new%20block%20with%20ID%20%27kubejs%3Aexample_block%27
02:09:47FromDiscord<determiedmech1> (edit) "[this](<https://kubejs.com/wiki/tutorials/block-registry#:~:text=StartupEvents.registry(%27block%27%2C%20event%20%3D%3E%20%7B%0A%20%20event.create(%27example_block%27)%20//%20Create%20a%20new%20block%20with%20ID%20%27kubejs%3Aexample_block%27%0A%7D>)" => "[this](https://kubejs.com/wiki/tutorials/block-registry#:~:text=StartupEvents.registry(%27block%27%2C%20event%20%3D%3E%20%7B%0A%20%20event.create(%27example_block%27)%20//
02:09:51FromDiscord<determiedmech1> https://kubejs.com
02:10:29FromDiscord<determiedmech1> (edit) "hey guys↵quick question↵↵ive been messing around with using [KubeJS](https://kubejs.com) with nim but i've not gotten super into all the backend stuff yet so i was wondering how i'd do [this](https://kubejs.com/wiki/tutorials/block-registry#:~:text=StartupEvents.registry(%27block%27%2C%20event%20%3D%3E%20%7B%0A%20%20event.create(%27example_block%27)%20//%20Create%20a%20new%20block%20with%20ID%20%27kubejs%3Aexample_b
02:10:34FromDiscord<determiedmech1> (edit) "https://pasty.ee/jsDtFKXg" => "https://pasty.ee/YNSIwCnO"
02:10:51FromDiscord<determiedmech1> but like
02:10:52FromDiscord<determiedmech1> in nim
02:16:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> A lot of wrapping of the JS code
02:17:02FromDiscord<determiedmech1> fearful
02:27:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You can always cheat and just write some JS that you then import and skip the middle man
02:27:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> People do that with C++ aswell so it's totally a legit way
02:32:13FromDiscord<determiedmech1> oh true
03:01:15FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @determiedmech1 "hey guys quick question": tbf `(args, more) => { ... }` is just sugar for `function(args, more) { ... }`
03:09:46FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=UyAvaFXu
03:09:50FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> @determiedmech1
03:10:04FromDiscord<determiedmech1> oh
03:10:09FromDiscord<determiedmech1> yeha lemme try that
03:10:10FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @battery.acid.bubblegum "So you could just": Obviously you want to add more type safety lol, this is just a pseudoimpl
03:10:19FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> i doubt it even works as is
03:11:08FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Look at https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/wiki/Nim-for-TypeScript-Programmers#JavaScript-Interoperability and https://nim-lang.org/docs/jsffi.html to see how you can go about this
03:17:38FromDiscord<determiedmech1> In reply to @battery.acid.bubblegum "Obviously you want to": yeah i get this error https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1325302161718120468/image.png?ex=677b4b52&is=6779f9d2&hm=b52789cec0a35d7c8ec7b0db0bb5a71bc531a043f8f78b8e5a7255c82702f585&
03:20:34FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @determiedmech1 "yeah i get this": I have no idea what the JS looks like + I'm not in a position to test it myself stm
03:20:55FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> you're gonna either have to experiment using the links I sent as a reference or just cheat, like Beef said
03:21:23FromDiscord<determiedmech1> ok
03:21:37FromDiscord<determiedmech1> thanks tho goats 🙏
03:21:49FromDiscord<determiedmech1> (edit) removed "tho"
03:23:06FromDiscord<determiedmech1> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=hzOkETxW
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03:44:56FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @determiedmech1 "oh also this is": huh, that looks fine
03:45:14FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> well
03:45:19FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> hm...
03:45:33FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> bind null? idk what that means
03:48:15FromDiscord<determiedmech1> im pretty sure this is where its getting StartupEvents from https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1325309864032862279/message.txt?ex=677b527e&is=677a00fe&hm=39464ec1be4feebac4d9f2d91515fbea1538ab0be11f66e50c0b754e710f3525&
03:51:56FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> that looks fine
03:59:31FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @determiedmech1 "oh also this is": oh wait this looks bad
03:59:36FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> huh...
04:02:45FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> not sure how to fix it tho
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05:34:25FromDiscord<thebiglebobsky_> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/erYxqwOO
05:35:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Seems absurd to aim a language specifically at making malware
05:39:56FromDiscord<thebiglebobsky_> im not really saying that with these features this should be a almost goto pick for many malware creators. it just seems to me like a glorfied soon to be better version of something like rust ( though rust is really fast and has almost no memory mishaps
05:40:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> > though rust is really fast↵Opposed to what?
05:41:32FromDiscord<thebiglebobsky_> going off of the benchmarks and ratings of rust so opposed to most languages
05:48:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Ah programming language benchmarks the astrology in programming circles
05:50:51FromDiscord<bostonboston> As long as it isn't python your language is fast enough
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08:54:50FromDiscord<myxi> https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/e8bf6af0da52ce91dd0b5a7474d386d9a66809b9/lib/pure/osproc.nim#L720↵↵i'm trying to figure out how to create child processes with a custom environment block in windows using `createProcessW` and that's the only example I could find. Does anybody know what's `env` and where to find it?
08:57:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `env` is a prameter
08:57:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> parameter\
08:57:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `StringTableRef` so just your env variable
09:00:47FromDiscord<myxi> where to find an example for making `StringTableRef`?
09:00:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> \`std/strtabs
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11:51:50FromDiscord<aintea> In reply to @shalokshalom "Nim does not have": If transducers are just currying then no Nim doesn't have that by default but you can implement it easily
11:54:51FromDiscord<aintea> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=BTPateYS
12:19:24FromDiscord<fabric.input_output> In reply to @aintea "If transducers are just": honestly the `->>` looks like `dup` from `std/sugar`
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13:25:45FromDiscord<aintea> the `->>` from what ?
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14:03:52FromDiscord<jimb007> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=NiqeVcIG
14:05:29FromDiscord<jimb007> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=cZFvzchY" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=VgxkSHTC"
14:05:47FromDiscord<jimb007> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=ZILsBbHt" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=QDPVYZkx"
14:11:29FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/TgJRqjrl
15:22:36FromDiscord<fabric.input_output> In reply to @aintea "the `->>` from what": from the transducers link
15:23:19FromDiscord<fabric.input_output> In reply to @michaelb.eth "transducers are sort of": aren't they like rust iterators and java streams?
15:25:12FromDiscord<lainlaylie> In reply to @jimb007 "Help needed please in": You should probably first parse it with "d/M/YYYY" or something then call getIsoWeekAndYear
15:30:21FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @fabric.input_output "aren't they like rust": kind of
15:50:03FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> How can I remove those floats rounding errors please? I should have zero, just zero... https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1325491513819660421/image.png?ex=677bfbab&is=677aaa2b&hm=1470808a27bae4242bbf1f830461577eb0f132e94b53ededabe07f66a4c1785a&
15:56:56om3gaSystem64 ~ Flandre Scarlet: use formatFloat
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16:08:35FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @om3ga "System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet:": What is that?
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16:12:24FromDiscord<odexine> In reply to @sys64 "How can I remove": I think you effectively can’t
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16:28:25FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @odexine "I think you effectively": I guess I have to flush very small values to zero
16:35:34FromDiscord<dwe7500> Has anyone gotten the basic Pixels example to work on a Mac using the `libSDL2.dylib`?
16:36:21FromDiscord<dwe7500> In reply to @dwe7500 "Has anyone gotten the": Tried to ask this question on the nim forum but appears that os not accepting new registrations after 2 email addresses being told an email could not be sent during registration
16:36:42Amun-Rayes, but my example uses my bindings, but it shouldn't be hard to convert that to standard bindings
16:37:26Amun-Radwe7500: https://github.com/amnr/nsdl2/blob/master/examples/randompixels.nim
16:40:19FromDiscord<dwe7500> In reply to @Amun-Ra "dwe7500: https://github.com/amnr/nsdl2/blob/master/": OK so interesting but just using an entirely different library as a SDL abstraction rather than the Pixels library I was referring to
16:41:00Amun-Radwe7500: ah, sorry, Pixels… I focused on libsdl2 and missed the context entirely
16:45:27FromDiscord<odexine> In reply to @sys64 "I guess I have": It shouldn’t matter in practice?
16:55:37FromDiscord<dwe7500> In reply to @Amun-Ra "dwe7500: ah, sorry, Pixels…": I tried the examples in this repo you provided and still getting the same error so is more an install issue with SDL 2 as a framework on a mac or how to get nim to compile a program and point to the location of the framework
17:00:52FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @odexine "It shouldn’t matter in": Until THIS happens https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1325509331336298506/image.png?ex=677c0c43&is=677abac3&hm=9c18ceff84f02f07c7820d5e4870c0c52df3356a8867622a4747aca4e38b02de&
17:01:06FromDiscord<odexine> In reply to @sys64 "Until THIS happens": That’s the same image
17:01:22FromDiscord<odexine> I don’t see what exactly the problem is because I don’t know what these values are
17:02:27FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @odexine "I don’t see what": Normally both sines should cancel out (that gives zero)↵But then I apply some rounding to convert to integer↵But it's not exactly zero, which gives this error
17:02:28Amun-Radwe7500: what's the error?
17:02:41FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Even C has this issue https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1325509786988580956/image.png?ex=677c0caf&is=677abb2f&hm=1353d935409481ec42e0712d6dc6400b7515e1960555f97f4d3115060705120e&
17:02:52FromDiscord<odexine> This is natural from how floats work
17:03:09FromDiscord<odexine> How are you applying rounding
17:03:40FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=TBUQhVgU
17:04:07Amun-Raif x - y < epsilon: # zero
17:04:23FromDiscord<dwe7500> In reply to @Amun-Ra "dwe7500: what's the error?": `Failed to load SDL 2.0 library: dlopen(libSDL2.dylib, 0x0002): tried: 'libSDL2.dylib' (no such file), '/System/Volumes/Preboot/Cryptexes/OSlibSDL2.dylib' (no such file), '/usr/lib/libSDL2.dylib' (no such file, not in dyld cache), 'libSDL2.dylib' (no such file)`
17:04:23FromDiscord<odexine> Doesn’t work if there’s DC offset
17:04:36FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @Amun-Ra "if x - y": epsilon? wdym?
17:04:51FromDiscord<odexine> Epsilon is “rounding constant” used for float comparison
17:05:01Amun-RaSystem64: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_epsilon
17:05:04FromDiscord<odexine> Generally just a somewhat small float
17:06:50FromDiscord<odexine> Nim has an almost equal procedure in the math module
17:07:01FromDiscord<odexine> And an epsilon procedure as well if you want to manually calculate
17:07:18FromDiscord<odexine> (edit) "And an epsilon procedure ... as" added "in fenv"
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17:13:52FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=PXgtjMBd
17:13:52FromDiscord<odexine> https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rbd/papers/cmj-float-to-int.html↵@System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet FYI Nim round is the same as C round, it’s direct import
17:15:16FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @odexine "https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rbd/papers/cmj-float-to-int": So maybe this function has an issue?
17:15:40FromDiscord<odexine> Probably round is not appropriate for your use case
17:16:18FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @odexine "Probably round is not": What should I use then?
17:16:42FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> ceil or floor? it's not ideal either
17:17:21FromDiscord<odexine> Reimplementation of round to do round to zero
17:19:13FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @odexine "Reimplementation of round to": Isn't that floor?
17:19:31FromDiscord<odexine> No
17:20:11FromDiscord<odexine> Floor is↵-0.5 -> -1↵0.5 -> 0
17:20:19FromDiscord<odexine> You want these to be the same
17:20:46FromDiscord<odexine> Wait fuck lol
17:21:17FromDiscord<odexine> You want the range (-0.5, 0.5) to be the same value is more accurate
17:21:24FromDiscord<odexine> (edit) "You" => "“You" | "value" => "value”"
17:21:28FromDiscord<aintea> Well Nuh huh
17:21:31FromDiscord<aintea> Maths says-
17:21:42FromDiscord<odexine> I made a mistake lol
17:22:08FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Usually the synthesis uses the -1, 1 range
17:22:53FromDiscord<odexine> Well what I mean is that you want the area around 0 to be balanced
17:23:16FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Isn't that some kind of flush to zero?
17:23:25FromDiscord<odexine> What is flush to zero
17:23:40FromDiscord<odexine> Generally this is called rounding towards zero
17:23:55FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> if the number is very very close to zero, just set to zero
17:25:44Amun-Raright, that's why you almost never should use == for float comparison
17:26:10FromDiscord<odexine> Wait no I need to think
17:26:15FromDiscord<odexine> In reply to @odexine "Well what I mean": I’m wrong here
17:27:56FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=ULTLylhd
17:28:10FromDiscord<odexine> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=RndjovGP
17:28:15FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> yes
17:28:20FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> float64
17:28:59FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> well, some settings are float32, but shouldn't cause issues
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17:30:12FromDiscord<odexine> In reply to @sys64 "Until THIS happens": and I assume the flickering is a 32 bit integer going from 1 to 0 or similar
17:30:38FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> yeah, because of those very small values
17:31:20FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> That kind of values https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1325516999077658675/image.png?ex=677c1367&is=677ac1e7&hm=bdbab339a1dd56242e83aef85799c87f1e43deaf85c187607052b4e0723f24bb&
17:32:12FromDiscord<odexine> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=ijiEAvox
17:32:37FromDiscord<odexine> Change the 3rd parameter to 14 or so
17:32:46FromDiscord<odexine> (edit) "Change the 3rd parameter ... to" added "on the almost equal"
17:34:37FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @odexine "Change the 3rd parameter": wdym? I'm confused
17:45:22FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @odexine "Change the 3rd parameter": Oh just understood, there is 3 parameters!↵What is the third for?
17:52:35FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Lol https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1325522346450354226/image.png?ex=677c1862&is=677ac6e2&hm=df5b2869f4bc4801592072aea7d41d4592c224f0d3a816c59bdb3bf27abeb419&
18:37:26FromDiscord<dedraiaken> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=uRXdXvaj
18:40:33FromDiscord<jimb007> In reply to @lainlaylie "You should probably first": getIsoWeekAndYear() causes an error "undeclared identifier"↵Any ideas how to get this recognised?↵I have import std/[times] in my code
18:46:09FromDiscord<dedraiaken> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=XFJdHENr
18:46:12FromDiscord<lainlaylie> Are you using a very old Nim?
18:46:51FromDiscord<lainlaylie> I had to go all the way back to 1.6 to reproduce the behavior you describe
18:48:51FromDiscord<dedraiaken> Yeah, looks like it was added in 2022.
18:56:48FromDiscord<saint._._.> In reply to @sys64 "Lol": wow
18:56:53FromDiscord<saint._._.> Looks awesome!
19:00:12FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @saint._._. "Looks awesome!": Oh, thanks!↵The only issue is floating point precision
19:02:13FromDiscord<saint._._.> In reply to @sys64 "Oh, thanks! The only": Gotcha btw do u have the repo for this again?
19:02:20FromDiscord<saint._._.> I'd love to take a look and potentially contribute!
19:03:18FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @saint._._. "I'd love to take": Oh thanks! Gotta put it online then↵Please wait a few minutes
19:04:37FromDiscord<saint._._.> Sure!
19:10:50FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @saint._._. "Sure!": https://github.com/system64MC/Kurumi-XP
19:29:20FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> If you have trouble to build, maybe considering using Docker
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19:41:09FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> https://github.com/mackron/miniaudio↵I'm thinking of using this for sound preview
19:46:00FromDiscord<saint._._.> In reply to @sys64 "https://github.com/system64MC/Kurumi-XP": Awesome thank you!!
19:46:23FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @saint._._. "Awesome thank you!!": You're welcome!↵Don't hesitate to do suggestions too!
19:46:33FromDiscord<saint._._.> In reply to @sys64 "If you have trouble": Will definitely try docker haha keeps everything easier
19:46:51FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Oh but you're in the Audio Programmer Discord too!
19:47:59FromDiscord<saint._._.> In reply to @sys64 "Oh but you're in": Yup!
19:48:54FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @saint._._. "Yup!": Oh nice! I'm here too
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21:51:02FromDiscord<bostonboston> In reply to @sys64 "Lol": Is each output represented by an equation, or like a sequence of samples
22:00:18FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/KvJNeilm
22:02:17FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> That may be probably aliasing artifacts
22:02:29FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> Or harmonics
22:02:50FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> Or accumulated rounding errors
22:04:26FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @michael.lenz. "That may be probably": My case is so simple that I think it's a float thing
22:04:44FromDiscord<bostonboston> The answer to the badly worded question is it's a sequence of samples. ↵↵My thoughts being if you completely flipped the architecture of the app on its head and stored the equation representation from each module, or the operations to make the equation you'd eliminate the errors
22:05:43FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @bostonboston "The answer to the": I think we can't do simpler than this↵If this is already errored, my synth is errored https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1325586050684551280/image.png?ex=677c53b6&is=677b0236&hm=544cb3f61efb9caca15cf1a0c30af3d5b55f481e1a5d696ee541db23f3d27091&
22:05:58FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> JS has the same issue↵C too↵Nim
22:06:22FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> You’re summing two signals?
22:06:50FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @michael.lenz. "You’re summing two signals?": yes↵sine + sine(x + PI)↵They should cancel each other
22:07:25FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> (edit) "yes↵sine" => "yes↵sine(x)"
22:08:01FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> Probably here happens these extra numbers you get
22:08:30FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> Pi is not finite, so it has precision limit
22:08:56FromDiscord<bostonboston> Worse than that, create a sin and cos type with like amplitude, phase, angular velocity fields and do math on those, then compute the output once
22:09:54FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Even Desmos https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1325587102808805438/image.png?ex=677c54b1&is=677b0331&hm=5cb2c2759ca86205eccd5563189e7d5ef6d747110bbfeeef850a4a39141a41a9&
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22:14:04FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Conclusion : Computers suck at math
22:14:44FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> Noo ))) that’s ok
22:15:42FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> Round the resulting number
22:15:56FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=IEymJwAJ
22:17:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Eh 1e-15 is practically 0
22:18:53FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @sys64 "That kind of values": This occurs and can lead to problems
22:19:07FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @sys64 "Until THIS happens": To this for example
22:22:26FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=AYmBotXb
22:24:48FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @michael.lenz. "This is not really": I should not round to the next integer value
22:26:06FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> https://nim-lang.org/docs/strutils.html#formatFloat%2Cfloat%2CFloatFormatMode%2Crange%5B%5D%2Cchar
22:26:53FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> It's for strings
22:27:03FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> But this maybe not the best proc for your code
22:28:38FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> And if we convert it back to the float, the resulting number may be not like .0
22:32:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What they're doing is mostly fine as it is just a hard stop for an epsilon
22:32:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Though I imagine more ideally would be to make a low pass and a high pass filter node to set the floor
22:33:54FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I might be wrong with the proper term
22:36:47FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @Elegantbeef "What they're doing is": My flush to zero function?
22:36:55FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> In reply to @sys64 "It's for strings": https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=MtaDfNlQ
22:38:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Lol you're kidding right?
22:38:22FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> The string method looks inefficient
22:39:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Using string formatting to hard stop an epsilon has got to be a joke, right?
22:39:44FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> He looked serious
22:40:20FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> Well it works as we see it)))
22:40:57FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> Btw 100% cancellation is not possible in analog too
22:41:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Sure it works but so does `if x < epsilon: x = 0` 😄
22:41:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Or if we really want to be fancy `x = x < epsilon.float32`
22:41:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Whoops `>`
22:42:30FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Or if we really": Ah yeah I can avoid branching by converting the bool to float, right?
22:43:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No clue if it branches to convert a bool to a float
22:43:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I imagine it might
22:43:23FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> I would use the “mute” proc. If I understand it correctly you hear the noise?
22:46:24FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Sure it works but": Actually this is a mute proc, only multiplication may be replaced with assignment, like x = 0.0
22:49:11FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> 🤔 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1325596989530046494/image.png?ex=677c5de6&is=677b0c66&hm=32fcad084831905a4ef1cbac73fec78a391489af63d93d34332e87b0da8dd88f&
22:49:37FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> Btw, Why you need to cancel one sine with -180 degrees sine?
22:49:59FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You didn't `exportc, dynlib` the proc
22:50:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> They're trying to resolve the issue with floats in destructive interference
22:52:23FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1325597794748334090/image.png?ex=677c5ea6&is=677b0d26&hm=5eb49a955cf7504143c09c957f2cfdeed52d36ff9fa2b9c6b91c18ad54fe053c&
22:52:35FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> Hmm, but this will not result the absolute silence. In real world with analog gear is the same
22:52:42FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> ja is branching I guess?
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22:56:43FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> Muting specific frequency also could be done with notch filter
23:00:25FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> I added flushing to zero. It's simpler and the performances impact shouldn't be big
23:11:58FromDiscord<michael.lenz.> In reply to @sys64 "I added flushing to": So, it works as expected?
23:14:39FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @michael.lenz. "So, it works as": Yeah
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