| 00:07:07 | FromDiscord | <zumi.dxy> Sometimes I've had to read package source code |
| 00:07:14 | FromDiscord | <zumi.dxy> Even Nim's |
| 00:07:32 | FromDiscord | <zumi.dxy> but the language is luckily pretty accomodating with that |
| 00:22:35 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/VSUzNspK |
| 00:22:56 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> yea just use the `error` procedure |
| 00:29:05 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> I’m sorry I don’t know what you mean by error procedure. Like raise errors? ↵↵https://nim-lang.org/docs/exceptions.html↵? |
| 00:44:14 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> No inside std/macros there is a `error` procedure |
| 00:44:30 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> You can use it to write custom errors with specific line information from source AST |
| 00:44:38 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> So it appears like a language level error |
| 00:45:01 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> The autocomplete is just not possible for untyped macros |
| 00:50:37 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/itdpDytn |
| 00:50:55 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> In reply to @Elegantbeef "The autocomplete is just": I will have to write typed macros then |
| 00:51:50 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=WEghHetC |
| 00:52:14 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Typed macros are typed so the code must be valid |
| 00:52:28 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> htmlgen for instance cannot be done as it is as a typed macro |
| 00:52:55 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=PMeUUzHU |
| 00:53:36 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> I’ve gotten the impression from a few things i’ve read that typed macros are a much more intermediate task, is this true? |
| 00:53:58 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> They operate on AST which compiles |
| 00:54:07 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Whether that's intermediate is dependent on what you're doing |
| 00:56:38 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> https://github.com/jmsapps/NTML↵↵This is what I’m working on, sporadically when I have time aside from work. For sure you’ve seen me ask questions related to this on the Nim forum, you’ve helped me |
| 00:57:19 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> At my work we use React front end and python backend so I wanted to make something with a syntax thats like best of both worlds, which attracted me to Nim in the first place |
| 00:57:55 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> But because Nim already has Karax I was thinking i would make this without a virtual DOM |
| 01:04:37 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=dqRCZZSX |
| 01:04:56 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> The nature of untyped is that the compiler does not actually see the code |
| 01:05:39 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> No no no I can’t, the syntax has to be how I have it |
| 01:06:08 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Have fun with lack of tooling support |
| 01:06:15 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> I have a musicians background the aesthetic is everything for me 🤣 |
| 01:06:22 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> Its a creative decision |
| 01:06:29 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> I will figure something out |
| 01:06:38 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> Forgive me if I appear stubborn |
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| 01:22:50 | FromDiscord | <haoyu233> In reply to @fabric.input_output "`->` ;]": 看起来有点像 python 语法, |
| 01:23:46 | FromDiscord | <haoyu233> (edit) "In reply to @fabric.input_output "`->` ;]": 看起来有点像 python 语法," => "sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=sjcpyavU" |
| 01:24:42 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Yea if you want": Maybe I can have untyped macros for the flexible syntax but inner typed macros for tooling? |
| 01:25:00 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> If the outer macro is untyped so is the body |
| 01:25:09 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> That's sorta required for untyped |
| 01:25:56 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> Okay. So the issue if im understanding is that typed macros wont like the raw nnkStmtList’s i have? |
| 01:26:28 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> typed macro force the code to be typed, which means it's semantically correct |
| 01:26:44 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> untyped macros take the code right out of the parser so it has no forced semantics |
| 01:27:03 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> Right, gotcha |
| 01:27:15 | FromDiscord | <jm_sts> Okay, I have a lot to think about, thank you so much as always |
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| 05:29:51 | FromDiscord | <madonuko> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=kKWHyOYo |
| 05:31:28 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> You're passing a `ref` to a thread, that's not a good thing to do |
| 05:33:26 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> You could try `--mm:atomicarc` but without orc it'll likely leak |
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| 05:53:54 | FromDiscord | <Phil> Generally I can not recommend fiddling around in owlkettle with threads on your own |
| 05:54:29 | FromDiscord | <Phil> I'd recommend using their in-built procs for dispatching tasks etc., then GTK takes care of the multithreading for you, assuming you don't need the result of a piece of computation. |
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| 07:08:03 | FromDiscord | <madonuko> In reply to @isofruit "I'd recommend using their": yeah I think I'm going to go for this path instead then |
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| 09:16:19 | FromDiscord | <vindaar> @ch_dr_7 ↵As already mentioned for arraymancer / flambeau and similar libraries, better ask in the #science channel. There's only few of us who maintain these libs, so the chances that someone sees your messages in the main channel are pretty slim. Also feel free to open issues in any of the repos |
| 09:17:27 | FromDiscord | <vindaar> Did you manage to get the simple MLP arraymancer example working from the master branch though? It should work fine |
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| 10:39:27 | FromDiscord | <ch_dr_7> I'm not making that but that example seemed to work, there weren't errors when I made the stuff I actually needed. I'll mention it tho |
| 10:39:56 | FromDiscord | <ch_dr_7> Like my nn is doing something unrelated to the perceptron |
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| 11:12:02 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast.> Any idea what this strange error is about? (Karax):↵↵Error: ambiguous call; both vdom.setAttr(n: VNode, key: kstring, val: kstring) [proc declared in /home/david/.nimble/pkgs/karax-1.3.0/karax/vdom.nim(245, 6)] and vdom.setAttr(n: VNode, key: kstring, val: bool) [proc declared in /home/david/.nimble/pkgs/karax-1.3.0/karax/vdom.nim(256, 6)] match for: (VNode, string, string) |
| 11:12:35 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast.> i'm knees deep in a refactor and this started to happen |
| 11:13:05 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast.> how can this (VNode, string, string) even match (n: VNode, key: kstring, val: bool) |
| 11:13:52 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast.> my first idea was "converter" but it does not seem like it |
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| 11:43:22 | Amun-Ra | i don't see val: bool in the error message, I see val: kstring |
| 11:44:21 | FromDiscord | <nnsee> the error message lists `vdom.setAttr(n: VNode, key: kstring, val: bool)` as one of the candidates |
| 11:44:55 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast.> But it thinks that vnode,string,string would match vnode,kstring,bool |
| 11:45:01 | Amun-Ra | ah, I see that now |
| 11:45:14 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast.> Or I read it wrong |
| 11:45:24 | FromDiscord | <nnsee> no, i think you're reading it right |
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| 11:59:29 | FromDiscord | <Phil> @hotdog6666 , spread your wisdom! |
| 12:08:22 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast.> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=cgyMutHy |
| 12:08:50 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast.> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=CIHXpjZx" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=gKCGYKbq" |
| 12:13:16 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast.> ok |
| 12:13:27 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast.> it was completely unrelated and totally misleading error |
| 12:13:56 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast.> i had two imports in js that should be only for native targets in one dependency |
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| 15:21:38 | FromDiscord | <arm_3_d> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=MAJkwGPh |
| 15:22:36 | FromDiscord | <odexine> I assume using a closed channel is undefined behaviour |
| 15:23:43 | FromDiscord | <arm_3_d> How to check whether channel is closed? peek? |
| 15:24:08 | FromDiscord | <arm_3_d> `peek`'s documentation says that its not recommended using it |
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| 18:09:24 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast.> i think i've used tryRecv |
| 18:09:48 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast.> and i've also used a specific message and then returned in the receiving proc |
| 18:09:51 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast.> idk whats better |
| 18:16:12 | FromDiscord | <melmass> I would like to generate typescript types and code from my nim code, how would you approach that? |
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| 19:19:49 | FromDiscord | <tauruuuuuus> Question time: I know I can have a nimble project with two binaries but can I have them compiled with different compilers/flags? Can I specify in some way that they have to refer to two different config.nims? |
| 19:40:15 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> `myfile.nims` next to `myfile` |
| 19:46:37 | FromDiscord | <tauruuuuuus> woah, so simple? thanks! |
| 19:46:46 | FromDiscord | <tauruuuuuus> I seem to miss this kind of stuff all the time 😒 |
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| 20:04:16 | FromDiscord | <demotomohiro> This kind of stuff is documented here: https://nim-lang.org/docs/nims.html |
| 20:12:13 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> https://nim-lang.org/docs/nimc.html#compiler-usage-configuration-files even further here |
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| 21:48:16 | FromDiscord | <tauruuuuuus> Thanks guys for kindly telling me to RTFM 😄 |
| 21:48:33 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> As always |
| 21:48:45 | FromDiscord | <tauruuuuuus> I just told a colleague today |
| 21:48:51 | FromDiscord | <tauruuuuuus> I knew it was going to come back to me.. |
| 21:49:57 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It's a doggy dog world (no I'm not falling for an eggcorn) |
| 21:56:20 | FromDiscord | <lolfriend> this is a doggy dog world🥲 |
| 21:57:59 | FromDiscord | <lolfriend> i just learned what an eggcorn is |
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| 22:13:10 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Sorry about that |
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| 23:39:21 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> uh |
| 23:39:26 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> does anyone know why threads will like |
| 23:39:28 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> randomly just die |
| 23:39:30 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> with no warning |
| 23:39:42 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> two of my virtualized servers have started doing this |
| 23:39:53 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> no issues on my local linux box or in another baremetal server |
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