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| 07:43:32 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> so i tried out using treeform's nim template, and it's failing on the docs action with no info |
| 07:44:17 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> it is private, but the other actions run fine (well they did after fixing the import in the empty tests file) |
| 07:45:25 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> anyone ran into this before? |
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| 10:21:02 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> @morgan (ping with reply)\: Does `src/${{ github.event.repository.name }}.nim` exist?↵When I used that workflow, I put the actual input and output files names in the workflow, because that naming convention didn't fit.↵https://github.com/SpotlightKid/nim-sndfile/blob/master/.github/workflows/docs.yml↵(I also updated some action versions.) |
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| 15:01:24 | FromDiscord | <lainlaylie> hardcoded main file path 😬 |
| 15:01:33 | FromDiscord | <lainlaylie> needs to parse nimble dump instead |
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| 17:00:00 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> KISS |
| 17:03:57 | FromDiscord | <odexine> long time no see, im prolly about to use nim again. i think i need a refresher on what's happened the past year or something... |
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| 17:37:55 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> In reply to @spotlightkid "<@277133333773811712>\: Does `src/${{ github.event.": no, but it looked to be the same setup for some other library. ill probably just change that tho. should work fine with the out set |
| 17:39:29 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> @odexine\: Not too much, I believe. Araq's ben busy with the Nim 3 (Nimony) rewrite. |
| 17:39:41 | FromDiscord | <odexine> i see |
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| 17:48:20 | FromDiscord | <Laylie> yeah, i meant the original template should either make the user explicitly set their main module or detect it accurately, instead of assuming it to be src/ |
| 17:48:34 | FromDiscord | <Laylie> yeah, i meant the original template should either make the user explicitly set their main module or detect it accurately, instead of assuming it to be src/github repo name |
| 18:22:18 | FromDiscord | <bxiwbbd> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=JSwINtHk |
| 18:22:37 | FromDiscord | <bxiwbbd> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=ntwSwGWU" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=yhctyzjL" |
| 18:27:34 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> `-g` means "install globally", i.e. not only in the project.↵In nimble that's the default, i.e. the package is installed for the current user. Binaries (or links to them) will be placed in `~/.nimble/bin`. Add that dir to your `PATH`. |
| 18:30:44 | FromDiscord | <Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @odexine "long time no see,": :o really? |
| 18:31:09 | FromDiscord | <odexine> In reply to @battery.acid.bubblegum ":o really?": Not very likely but I might |
| 18:31:58 | FromDiscord | <Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @odexine "Not very likely but": aw... |
| 18:32:13 | FromDiscord | <odexine> Right now it’s a consideration |
| 18:32:26 | FromDiscord | <bxiwbbd> In reply to @spotlightkid "`-g` means "install globally",": Yes, that’s what I’m asking—does Nimble have a way to install binaries globally, like npm’s -g flag, so I can run them directly from the command line? Or do I have always to move the binaries to a directory in my PATH manually? |
| 18:33:28 | FromDiscord | <bxiwbbd> (edit) "asking—does" => "asking — does" | "asking — doesNimble have a way to install binaries globally, like npm’s -g flag, so I can run them directly from the command line? Or do I ... have" added "always" | removed "always" |
| 18:33:49 | FromDiscord | <aintea> Or just add `$HOME/.nimble/bin` in your path |
| 18:33:55 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> @bxiwbbd\: No, I just told you what you should do\: add the `~/.nimble/bin` to your `PATH`. |
| 18:34:22 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> Then use `nimble install <foo>` as normal. |
| 18:34:48 | FromDiscord | <bxiwbbd> In reply to @aintea "Or just add `$HOME/.nimble/bin`": Why isn't it done by default like npm? 🤷🏻♂️ |
| 18:36:57 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Not everything is NPM |
| 18:39:44 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> Installing things system-wide, i.e. under `/usr(/local)` requires root privileges. Nim packages should not need to be installed as root, installing them as a normal user is just fine.↵Installing things into system dirs is the domain of distribution packages. |
| 18:40:02 | FromDiscord | <yg0068> Hi guys, I can't find any results of `koch test` on nim-lang prs. What's wrong with me? |
| 18:42:14 | FromDiscord | <bxiwbbd> It does make it more user-friendly though... |
| 18:42:38 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> How is it any more user friendly |
| 18:42:40 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> How does having to use `sudo` make things more user-friendly? |
| 18:42:42 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Eitherway you need to add the npm path to your path |
| 18:43:21 | FromDiscord | <bxiwbbd> No, I'm saying if nimble provided a way to do it |
| 18:43:50 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Do you even have multiple users on your PC? |
| 18:44:48 | FromDiscord | <bxiwbbd> Why will I have multiple users on my pc? So no (?) |
| 18:45:10 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> So there is not much real benefit to installing system wide 😄 |
| 18:45:44 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Assuming you're using linux you do actually have root aswell as your user account |
| 18:46:36 | FromDiscord | <bxiwbbd> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Eitherway you need to": This isn't true |
| 18:46:54 | FromDiscord | <bxiwbbd> I never had to do it |
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| 18:56:20 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> `npm install -g ` installs to under `/usr` or `/usr/local` (on unix), and `/usr/bin` and `/usr/local/bin` is usually already in the `PATH`.↵But you'll need `sudo` to use `-g`.↵Unless you're on Windows, then `npm` will install to sth like `C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\npm` and you'll probably need to add that to your `PATH` as well. I can't test on Windows, so I can't be sure, but I don't see how it would work there without |
| 18:57:47 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=onwVrvxm |
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| 19:13:36 | FromDiscord | <bxiwbbd> In reply to @spotlightkid "`npm install -g `": I believe if you install nodejs through the official windows Installer or through `pkg`, it automatically configs the paths. Global installs through npm just worked automatically for me (I never use sudo, nor did i know how to configure path before using nimble) |
| 19:15:39 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> `sudo` is a unix-only thing. |
| 19:16:02 | FromDiscord | <lainlaylie> the best way to add a directory to path depends on which os youre on, even the specific distribution in some cases, what shell is being used, user preference, etc, so i think it's fine that nimble doesn't bother with it by default. it takes 2 seconds to do manually anyway |
| 19:17:19 | FromDiscord | <bxiwbbd> In reply to @spotlightkid "`sudo` is a unix-only": How will I be aware of that, i never used to 😹 |
| 19:17:31 | FromDiscord | <bxiwbbd> (edit) "to" => "it" |
| 19:18:59 | FromDiscord | <spotlightkid> If you're on Windows you don't need to. |
| 19:20:02 | FromDiscord | <leorize> fwiw there's sudo on Windows now |
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| 20:46:59 | FromDiscord | <.bobbbob> are consts that store dynamic memory still saved in the heap at runtime? |
| 20:48:45 | FromDiscord | <Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @.bobbbob "are consts that store": consts that store dynamic memory? you have an example? |
| 20:49:22 | FromDiscord | <Robyn [She/Her]> it's likely that whatever is in a constant would be inlined at comp time, since it'd be evaluated on the VM but not too sure |
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| 21:35:48 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> a question for y'all |
| 21:36:22 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=bONkmRdF |
| 21:36:26 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> I have code that looks like this |
| 21:36:37 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=BOYdNixK" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=CdxOWPID" |
| 21:37:13 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> I am currently working on using more SIMD code in my project and I would like to perform a bunch of SIMD operations, store the vectors in an array and then unpack them in a tight/partially unrolled loop for extra performance |
| 21:37:30 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> but for that I need to be able to declare an array of size `WORKLOAD_SIZE / CHUNK_SIZE` |
| 21:37:45 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> and since `CHUNK_SIZE` is not a constant... I can't |
| 21:38:41 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> does anyone know of a workaround for nimsimd so I can get `sizeof(M256i)` to work in Nim? Unfortunately `cimport` doesn't work at comptime so I can't declare `CHUNK_SIZE` as `const` |
| 21:38:57 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=hcVMNOny |
| 21:40:00 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> if I try to do `const stuff = sizeof(M256i)` I get `/home/nocturn9x/heimdall/src/heimdall/util/simd.nim(61, 28) Error: 'sizeof' requires '.importc' types to be '.completeStruct'` |
| 21:42:30 | FromDiscord | <leorize> you can't have const ref, so that's outta the question↵(@.bobbbob) |
| 21:43:05 | FromDiscord | <leorize> const string are stored in RO data segment and CoW-ed into memory |
| 21:51:31 | FromDiscord | <aintea> In reply to @bxiwbbd "Why isn't it done": because Nim lets you the choice to install it as root or as user |
| 21:51:42 | FromDiscord | <aintea> which is the default of literally everything except npm |
| 21:51:57 | FromDiscord | <aintea> npm is the odd one |
| 21:52:15 | FromDiscord | <aintea> python, nim, go, rust, and virtually everything else |
| 21:53:04 | FromDiscord | <aintea> however if you really do want a hack, link `$HOME/.nimble/bin` to `/usr/sbin` but please don't |
| 22:01:17 | FromDiscord | <bxiwbbd> In reply to @aintea "which is the default": I didnt know this, they probably do this because of us frontend devs |
| 22:21:25 | FromDiscord | <.bobbbob> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=MFyAxjmM |
| 22:22:03 | FromDiscord | <yg0068> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=oXydzeaP |
| 22:22:21 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> "why not solve the problem by solving the problem?" |
| 22:22:26 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> truly enlightening |
| 22:22:40 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> the problem is not nimsimd, the problem is how nim cimports stuff |
| 22:23:28 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> it's not a complete type by the time it gets `cimport`ed, I'm pretty sure there's nothing I can do about it |
| 22:23:35 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> since it depends on the `-mavx2` flag |
| 22:24:18 | FromDiscord | <yg0068> But the size of these types is pretty well known, no? It is always 256 bytes. So just redefine them as something appropriate instead of `object` |
| 22:24:38 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> well I currently sidestepped the issue entirely and just hardcoded the size in, yes |
| 22:25:08 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> changing nimsimd wouldn't be a long term solution unless it is specified somewhere that those types always have that exact size |
| 22:25:16 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> (edit) "changing nimsimd wouldn't be a long term solution unless it is specified somewhere ... that" added "in the AVX standard" |
| 22:25:59 | FromDiscord | <yg0068> How could not they? Theyre part of instruction set |
| 22:26:40 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> I would not be surprised if there were subtle differences depending on how compliant a CPU is to the standard |
| 22:26:52 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> I'm gonna have to investigate |
| 22:45:50 | FromDiscord | <leorize> every time you use it a copy will be built↵(@.bobbbob) |
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