| 00:27:48 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Le done UvU |
| 00:27:50 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7757 |
| 00:29:45 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Oof- |
| 00:36:33 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> I'll just post it here too until that gets approved :p |
| 00:36:48 | leorize | Yardanico: ^ |
| 00:37:05 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> :p |
| 00:37:07 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2Vgt |
| 00:37:08 | leorize | we can just get a mod to approve it for you :p |
| 00:37:13 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> i did approve |
| 00:37:32 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Oh |
| 00:37:38 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> @Technisha deleting is quite useless - we have IRC logs |
| 00:37:41 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> It didn't show until i refreshed lmao |
| 00:37:45 | ForumUpdaterBot | New thread by Technisha: Error while trying to use JNim, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7757 |
| 00:37:54 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Oh yeah, i forgot about IRC- |
| 00:38:06 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> I just deleted it because i thought there was no point keeping it lmao |
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| 01:11:07 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> I found both of these: https://github.com/DemonWav/wat↵https://github.com/jarcode-foss/NativeBukkit |
| 01:11:21 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Maybe i can port them to Nim into a better version of it :p |
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| 01:42:56 | FromDiscord | <Mustache Man> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2Vgz |
| 01:46:29 | leorize | it doesn't mean anything by now |
| 01:46:43 | leorize | but it used to be an operator for `owned` to provide compatibility for older versions of Nim |
| 01:47:05 | FromDiscord | <Mustache Man> ah thank you |
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| 03:13:46 | FromDiscord | <Mustache Man> In reply to @ElegantBeef "Or make a linked": doubly linked list worked great! improved performance by 15x |
| 03:13:53 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Nice |
| 03:14:24 | FromDiscord | <Mustache Man> there's a bit of a rough spot using it, which is determining whether there's a head or not |
| 03:14:44 | FromDiscord | <Mustache Man> so i used an iterator and break. |
| 03:14:53 | FromDiscord | <Mustache Man> (edit) "an iterator" => "a for loop" |
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| 03:56:23 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> does anyone know how to pass JSON using the JS backend into a function? Tried something like `proc Chart(n: Element, opts: JsonNode) {.importc.}` but when I log `opts` I get the whole JSONNode thing as an object (like it has the kind field) |
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| 04:03:53 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> In reply to @ajusa "does anyone know how": JsonNode is already a parsed Nim object, the "easiest" solution I see is doing $ on the JsonNode and then JSON.parse |
| 04:04:19 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> of course it's not the most efficient one, I guess otherwise you might want to write some simple code to walk over the JsonNode and create a native JS object out of it |
| 04:04:44 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> yeah, I'm also looking at https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/6282, didn't know jsffi was a thing |
| 04:06:02 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> I just want to be able to create a javascript object directly the same way I do in JS though, without type defintiions |
| 04:06:07 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> (edit) "defintiions" => "definitions" |
| 04:11:08 | leorize | then `import jsffi; js{field: "data"}` |
| 04:11:48 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> yep |
| 04:11:50 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> docs https://nim-lang.org/docs/jsffi.html#%7B%7D.m%2Ctypedesc%2Cvarargs%5Buntyped%5D |
| 04:11:59 | leorize | there is `JsObject` for any JS objects |
| 04:12:54 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> ah, that's what I was missing. There is a `js` type that I can use with that macro |
| 04:12:59 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> thank you so much! |
| 04:13:53 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> In reply to @leorize "there is `JsObject` for": i guess we should document this usage for {} :P |
| 04:16:21 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VgU |
| 04:16:43 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> do I need to do data: js{} as well? |
| 04:17:15 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> I really do need to do that huh, a bit of a pain for nested objects |
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| 04:24:16 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/dSM |
| 04:24:42 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VgX" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VgW" |
| 04:27:39 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> you can make a macro that'll do both of these for you :) |
| 04:29:29 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> can I? wouldn't I need to rewrite the `{}` macro then? |
| 04:29:44 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> same as json's % does it |
| 04:30:58 | FromDiscord | <Rika> {} isn’t a macro |
| 04:31:10 | FromDiscord | <Rika> At least in this case |
| 04:31:28 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> it is a macro |
| 04:31:35 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> `macro `{}`(typ: typedesc; xs: varargs[untyped]): auto` looks an awful lot like a macro to me |
| 04:31:46 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> @Rika https://nim-lang.org/docs/jsffi.html#%7B%7D.m%2Ctypedesc%2Cvarargs%5Buntyped%5D |
| 04:32:42 | FromDiscord | <Rika> What is js then? |
| 04:32:46 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> an object type |
| 04:32:53 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> https://nim-lang.org/docs/jsffi.html#js |
| 04:36:38 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> If i wanted to copy every object passed to a function and return that copy how would i do that? (copy here means not a reference, in the functional sense) |
| 04:45:13 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> @JSONBash got a code example of what you're after? |
| 04:47:21 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VgZ |
| 04:47:27 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> but not sure deepCopy is what I want |
| 04:48:03 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> @JSONBash beef asked the reason for why do you want to copy something |
| 04:48:08 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> you know, the x y problem ;) |
| 04:48:46 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> It's hard to make a suggestion in things like this without code to guide it |
| 04:48:48 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> but yes, deepCopy is what you want if you _really_ have to copy all arguments but there's rarely a need for it |
| 04:48:56 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> that's why we're asking for more context |
| 04:49:10 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> ah i see my bad for clarity |
| 04:49:59 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> I want to write some functional programming functions and I want to make a clone of the data coming in so there is no mutabiility |
| 04:50:26 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> and even if i get a ref obj i want to create a new one and send it back |
| 04:50:30 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> but there would be no mutability already if you use `func` with strictFuncs and don't use any `var` arguments |
| 04:50:49 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> but yes, if you really really really want to, deepCopy will work |
| 04:51:00 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> but I doubt that it'll be good for performance :P |
| 04:51:28 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> yeah I know it is not ideal and will be a performance hit |
| 04:51:35 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> maybe its not what i want to do? |
| 04:51:55 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> i am just trying to make sure that a data object i get passed is never mutated |
| 04:52:00 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> ,maybe there is a better way? |
| 04:52:29 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Use `{.experimental: "strictFuncs".}` |
| 04:52:38 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> In reply to @JSONBash "i am just trying": as I said above, you can use strictFuncs + `func` + no `var` arguments |
| 04:52:46 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual_experimental.html#strict-funcs |
| 04:52:55 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> With strict funcs you can only mutate `var`s |
| 04:53:12 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> vars that are specified in the argument list |
| 04:53:39 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> And that means you cannot mutate even reference objects |
| 04:53:58 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> They're "how funcs" should've behaved 😄 |
| 04:54:00 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> yes, with strictFuncs you get deep immutability for ref objects |
| 04:54:04 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> inside of ref objects etc |
| 04:54:12 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> (edit) "funcs"" => "funcs" | "behaved" => "behaved"" |
| 04:54:14 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> normal objects are already immutable unless you specify "var" in the argument list explicitly |
| 04:54:28 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> that seems to be better! If i were to do the following would this work?↵func [T](data: T): T=↵ let a = b↵ return b |
| 04:54:38 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> sorry for not formatting the code |
| 04:54:47 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> `func [T](data: T): T=↵ let a = b↵ return b` |
| 04:54:54 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> not sure what this function should do, and there's also no name? |
| 04:55:01 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Also there is no `a` and `b` |
| 04:55:11 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> lol im sorry |
| 04:55:56 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> In reply to @JSONBash "that seems to be": it will work, but it might not create copy when it deems that it's not neccesary (which is okay for you since you will use strictFuncs in your code anyway) |
| 04:56:18 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2Vh0 |
| 04:56:28 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> but this does mutation |
| 04:56:41 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> also `map[T]` 😄 |
| 04:57:01 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> thats embarassing haha |
| 04:57:14 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> for map we already have https://nim-lang.org/docs/sequtils.html#mapIt.t%2Ctyped%2Cuntyped |
| 04:57:40 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> also the more ergonomic `mapit` (atleast in my view) |
| 04:57:51 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> https://github.com/zero-functional/zero-functional can also be of your interest |
| 04:58:32 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> yeah I am a little hard pressed to come up with a good usage example |
| 04:58:58 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Oh you linked mapit cmon yard making me look dumb(not that it's diffcult) |
| 04:59:12 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> In reply to @ElegantBeef "Oh you linked mapit": I linked it before you sent your message :) |
| 04:59:47 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> whole 20 seconds later |
| 04:59:49 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> well the message said "for map" then you linked mapit |
| 04:59:54 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Then i read the url |
| 05:00:05 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/829218946866741288/unknown.png |
| 05:00:07 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/829218956917080065/unknown.png |
| 05:00:09 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> 🥴 |
| 05:00:50 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> I'm joking around and you pull out proof of my slowness, rude |
| 05:01:26 | FromDiscord | <JSONBash> i think I can be smarter about this with strictFuncs and func with no vars. I appreciate all the help @ElegantBeef and @Yardanico |
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| 05:50:40 | ForumUpdaterBot | New Nimble package! holst - A parser for Jupyter notebooks., see https://github.com/ruivieira/nim-holst |
| 06:29:58 | saem | @Technisha decompiler in the Java ecosystem are incredibly good. Unless the jar is heavily obfuscated you shouldn't have any issues reproducing very readable code. |
| 06:50:41 | FromDiscord | <mattrb> Is this telling me that most of my time is spent in system.nim? https://gist.github.com/mattrberry/13f3e536bdac9d6102fc681f7f314c18 |
| 06:51:01 | FromDiscord | <Rika> No it means you’re calling stuff a lot |
| 06:51:12 | FromDiscord | <Rika> It doesn’t tell you what takes long it tells you what is called often |
| 06:52:14 | FromDiscord | <Rika> Use u prof (and) or v tune (intel) |
| 06:53:09 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> or callgrind 😛 |
| 06:53:20 | FromDiscord | <Rika> Ah gba code |
| 06:53:24 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> But yea use a proper profiler and compile with `--debugger:native` |
| 06:53:25 | FromDiscord | <Rika> Don’t know how to profile that |
| 06:53:28 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> It's for an emulator |
| 06:53:38 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Atleast iirc |
| 06:53:40 | FromDiscord | <Rika> Oh so not for running on the gba okay |
| 06:53:45 | FromDiscord | <mattrb> Thanks for the flag |
| 06:53:54 | FromDiscord | <mattrb> Yeah this is for an emulator not a gba game |
| 06:53:58 | FromDiscord | <Rika> Useful for gdb too if you use that |
| 06:54:27 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> It'll be slightly unreadable symbols but you should be able to reason about what they are |
| 06:55:18 | FromDiscord | <Rika> If you use u prof it’s not unreadable (from my experience) |
| 06:55:27 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Wel it's `name_gensym` |
| 06:55:28 | FromDiscord | <Rika> It tells you directly what lines are hotspots so |
| 06:55:43 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> But the linedir is there so you can go to them |
| 06:55:44 | FromDiscord | <Rika> Well no it doesn’t work on the code symbols directly |
| 06:55:55 | FromDiscord | <Rika> It’s based on line dir yes |
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| 07:23:29 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> @sealmove so turns out it's in the stdlib we just missed it https://nim-lang.org/docs/strutils.html#allCharsInSet%2Cstring%2Cset%5Bchar%5D |
| 07:24:04 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> I was just about to implement it and the the very bottom procedure in strutils calls that one |
| 07:24:42 | FromDiscord | <sealmove> hmm weird that we missed it |
| 07:25:42 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Could just be the name is a weird, i'd argue `onlyContains` makes more sense 😄 |
| 07:29:36 | FromDiscord | <sealmove> agree the name is weird, but `onlyContains` hardly makes more sense :p |
| 07:30:07 | FromDiscord | <sealmove> `noCharOtherThan`? xD |
| 07:30:44 | FromDiscord | <sealmove> (edit) "`noCharOtherThan`? xD" => "~~`noCharOtherThan`? xD~~" |
| 07:32:07 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Idk `yourString.onlyContains({'0'..'9', 'a' .. 'f'})` seems fine to me |
| 07:33:09 | FromDiscord | <sealmove> hmm ok it's a better name than `allCharsInSet` |
| 07:35:06 | FromDiscord | <sealmove> I would swear `string.h` has a function that does this, but can't find it now. |
| 07:35:29 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Aside from that i can only think of `isOnly` |
| 07:35:35 | FromDiscord | <sealmove> `strspn()`? |
| 07:36:32 | liblq-dev | string spoon |
| 07:37:50 | FromDiscord | <sealmove> Well `strspn()` does almost the same thing.It's a bit more generic. You can compare the returned value with the string's length and if they are same then it means that `s1` consists only of characters from `s2`. |
| 07:38:53 | FromDiscord | <sealmove> I think spn stands for span 😅 but C name conventions are crazy, it could be spoon. |
| 07:44:19 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Clearly we're doing it backwards and it should be `set.makesUp(string)` 😛 |
| 07:57:48 | PMunch | A string spoon sounds like a horribly inefficient spoon.. |
| 07:58:22 | PMunch | string.madeUpOf(set) |
| 08:01:35 | FromDiscord | <hamidb80> hey |
| 08:01:54 | Prestige | Hello |
| 08:02:29 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Hello |
| 08:03:26 | FromDiscord | <hamidb80> how can I convert nim file into cpp without create executable binary↵for example: `fib.nim` -> `fib.cpp` |
| 08:03:35 | FromDiscord | <hamidb80> (edit) "create" => "createing" |
| 08:03:44 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> `nim c -c --nimcache:directory` |
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| 08:06:37 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> I guess that assumes you've made C++ your default backend so it's actually `nim cpp` 😄 |
| 08:09:30 | Clonkk[m] | What are the "template/generic instantiation from here" warning I have everywhere ? Is there a way to disable it on nimsuggest so it doesn't show ? |
| 08:17:30 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Does the program compile fine and it's just phantom errors in your editor? |
| 08:17:36 | Clonkk[m] | Compiles fine |
| 08:17:37 | Clonkk[m] | Works fine |
| 08:17:53 | Clonkk[m] | Yeah it's just the LSP client giving the errors |
| 08:18:22 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Yea i think it's an occasional issue that pops up and i have 0 idea how to resolve it |
| 08:21:23 | FromDiscord | <hamidb80> In reply to @Clonkk "Yeah it's just the": what version do you use? |
| 08:21:32 | FromDiscord | <hamidb80> (edit) "In reply to @Clonkk "Yeah it's just the": what version ... do" added "of nim" |
| 08:21:38 | PMunch | It's really annoying.. |
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| 08:21:43 | Clonkk[m] | Version of what ? |
| 08:22:11 | PMunch | I've had those issues myself, and I'm not sure what triggers them or what can be done to stop them |
| 08:22:19 | PMunch | Granted I haven't looked into it much |
| 08:22:50 | Clonkk[m] | Well I also have another bug that makes Neovim takes 100% CPU and block |
| 08:23:20 | Clonkk[m] | Don't know why everything is broken this morning 😂 |
| 08:29:12 | Prestige | using nimlsp Clonkk[m] ? |
| 08:29:33 | Clonkk[m] | Yes |
| 08:30:54 | Prestige | I'm pretty sure I know why |
| 08:31:18 | Prestige | PMunch: remember the change I added to https://github.com/PMunch/nimlsp/blob/master/src/nimlsp.nim#L493 that we talked about? It's running chk on all open files when a file changes |
| 08:31:26 | Prestige | we should probably not do that lol |
| 08:32:07 | PMunch | Ooh, on a didChange, no that's probably a bad idea :P |
| 08:32:23 | PMunch | There's a reason why it normally only runs it on didSave |
| 08:32:30 | Prestige | Yeah that will swallow Clonkk[m]'s computer whole |
| 08:33:00 | PMunch | But not mine apparently |
| 08:33:16 | PMunch | Haven't noticed it slowing down much, if at all, after that change |
| 08:33:18 | Prestige | yeah mine handles it alright but not good for all computers |
| 08:33:28 | Clonkk[m] | <Prestige "Yeah that will swallow Clonkk[m]"> Right now i have to pkill neovim :D |
| 08:33:35 | Prestige | I'm sorry |
| 08:33:39 | Prestige | :P |
| 08:33:40 | Clonkk[m] | No worries haha |
| 08:39:18 | Clonkk[m] | The last line of the log is Wed 07 Apr 2021 10:38:45 AM CEST:["s:on_text_document_did_open()", 1, "", "/home/rcaillaud/Workspace/localws/ForkedProjects/flambeau", "file:///tmp/vim-lsp.log"] |
| 08:39:23 | Clonkk[m] | In case helps |
| 08:40:22 | Prestige | https://github.com/PMunch/nimlsp/blob/master/src/nimlsp.nim#L472 not sure why didOpen would cause a freeze |
| 08:40:56 | Prestige | doesn't do much afaict |
| 08:43:22 | Clonkk[m] | No idea |
| 08:43:30 | Clonkk[m] | But I can reproducde the crash on demand |
| 08:44:47 | PMunch | @Clonkk[m], maybe try to turn on debug logging and see if that gives you another error message? |
| 08:45:15 | Clonkk[m] | How do you enable debug logging ? |
| 08:45:36 | PMunch | -d:debugLogging |
| 08:46:43 | Clonkk[m] | Give me a minute to clone & recompile |
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| 08:51:19 | Clonkk[m] | What is the log file when debug is active ? |
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| 09:31:54 | PMunch | @Clonkk[m], getTempDir() / "nimlsp" / "nimlsp.log" |
| 09:33:42 | Clonkk[m] | hmm |
| 09:34:05 | Clonkk[m] | It's empty 😛 |
| 09:34:12 | Clonkk[m] | I must not use the correct executable |
| 09:35:30 | Clonkk[m] | Ah okay it just take a while to open |
| 09:38:32 | Clonkk[m] | Let's continue this discussion on this issue https://github.com/PMunch/nimlsp/issues/77 |
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| 10:58:32 | FromDiscord | <madman> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/2Vi4 |
| 10:59:57 | FromDiscord | <haxscramper> `value: proc() {.cdecl.}` if you are interfacing with C code |
| 11:01:03 | FromDiscord | <madman> yes i am |
| 11:01:13 | FromDiscord | <madman> i also have importc and dynlib |
| 11:01:32 | FromDiscord | <madman> for some reason it sigsegv |
| 11:06:07 | PMunch | Almost impossible to know why without at least looking at more code |
| 11:06:25 | FromDiscord | <madman> i need to declare it as a type right? |
| 11:06:37 | PMunch | But yeah, that `proc` callback type needs to be defined with {.cdecl.} |
| 11:06:53 | FromDiscord | <madman> yeah i was passing it just a proc |
| 11:07:05 | FromDiscord | <madman> it should be type |
| 11:07:14 | PMunch | I don't think it has to be a type |
| 11:08:00 | FromDiscord | <madman> 1 sec |
| 11:10:02 | FromDiscord | <madman> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2Vid |
| 11:15:39 | PMunch | Try this: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2Vii |
| 11:17:17 | FromDiscord | <madman> print "thanks" 999 |
| 11:24:51 | PMunch | No problem :) |
| 11:34:08 | FromDiscord | <KnorrFG> if i want to have a list of all fields of a type in a typed macro, and I mean all fields, including inherited ones, is there a fu nction that does that, or do I have to write one that recurses throuhg all parent types? |
| 11:35:04 | PMunch | I think you have to recurse |
| 11:35:32 | FromDiscord | <KnorrFG> damn 😅 thanks |
| 11:35:59 | PMunch | There might be someone who has written code for it and hidden it in a library somewhere though :P |
| 11:36:23 | FromDiscord | <KnorrFG> im probably faster writing it myself than looking for that |
| 11:36:34 | FromDiscord | <haxscramper> https://haxscramper.github.io/hnimast/src/hnimast/obj_field_macros.html#parseObject%2CNNode%2CParseCb%5BNNode%2CA%5D |
| 11:36:54 | FromDiscord | <haxscramper> But I'm not sure if it works for base base types, I think it doesn't |
| 11:37:32 | FromDiscord | <KnorrFG> ill check it out, ty |
| 11:38:15 | FromDiscord | <haxscramper> It was mostly a response for "someone who has written code for it and hidden it in a library somewhere", |
| 11:38:56 | FromDiscord | <haxscramper> So you can probably look at the code for unparsing objects, but given you have to find parent types it would be easier to write it yourself |
| 11:39:34 | FromDiscord | <haxscramper> Though I would say this library is heavily torture-tested on parsing tons for real code, so it does handle a lot of subtle edge cases |
| 11:39:55 | FromDiscord | <KnorrFG> yeah, in general it looks like something i could need |
| 11:40:04 | FromDiscord | <haxscramper> Like `case of` suddenly having two layers of `RecList` if you try to switch over `void` type and so on |
| 11:41:31 | FromDiscord | <haxscramper> But in general it all comes down to `parseObject(obj, parseNimPragma)` and then you are free to do anything |
| 11:47:39 | FromDiscord | <KnorrFG> `func getFuckingTypeImpl(node: NimNode): NimNode {...}` 🤣 |
| 11:52:55 | FromDiscord | <no name fits> Is there an arithmetic formula to check for Armstrong numbers / narcissistic numbers or do I need to check each digit individually? It's in base 10 |
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| 13:55:11 | FromDiscord | <hamidb80> is there some function for someNumber -> binary in stdlib? |
| 13:55:28 | FromDiscord | <hamidb80> (edit) "someNumber" => "`someNumber`" | "binary" => "`binary`" |
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| 14:23:53 | m33[m] | <FromDiscord "<hamidb80> (edit) "someNumber" ="> something like https://nim-lang.org/docs/strutils.html#toBin%2CBiggestInt%2CPositive you mean ? |
| 14:28:00 | ForumUpdaterBot | New thread by Nyggus: Performance against Python: find substring in string, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7758 |
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| 15:41:38 | reversem3 | dom96 you around ? |
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| 16:18:29 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> If any Nim style pro's are out here can you comment on my PR: https://github.com/josevalim/nested-data-structure-traversal/pull/16 |
| 16:18:35 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> What are some good HTML preprocessors made in Nim, or a templating engine in Nim? |
| 16:18:45 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> Made by the dude who make Elixir so might be some nice exposure |
| 16:29:32 | FromDiscord | <exelotl> In reply to @Technisha|💻⭐ "What are some good": best options are stdtmpl: https://nim-lang.org/docs/filters.html#available-filters-stdtmpl-filter↵and karax: https://planety.github.io/prologue/views |
| 16:30:03 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Thanks! |
| 16:31:23 | FromDiscord | <exelotl> np :) If you choose karax you can use this to help: https://github.com/nim-lang-cn/html2karax |
| 16:31:45 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Oo neat! |
| 16:32:02 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Would it also be possible to use less.js too? :P |
| 16:32:19 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> It's pretty neat imo since it's a nice css preprocessor :p |
| 16:32:37 | PMunch | @zetashift, I'd to %sectionCounter instead of sectionCounter.newJInt |
| 16:32:47 | PMunch | Same for lesson counter |
| 16:33:04 | PMunch | And I prefer `inc lessonCounter` over `lessonCounter.inc()`, but maybe that's just me |
| 16:33:16 | FromDiscord | <exelotl> In reply to @Technisha|💻⭐ "Would it also be": yeah, for CSS you're probably fine with any existing tool like less or sass |
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| 16:34:33 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Nice! |
| 16:35:32 | PMunch | @zetashift, and you don't need the getElems bit: http://ix.io/2VjM |
| 16:35:53 | FromGitter | <HJarausch_gitlab> How to monitor a website for changes? The problem is that - using a browser - one has to visit a given site which seems to store some cookies and ⏎ only then one can visit the desired site (otherwise one gets an error message about deleted cookies). ⏎ How can I do this with *nim* (httpclient)? ⏎ Many thanks for a hint, ⏎ Helmut. [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=606ddf697d3bb363218f2331] |
| 16:36:03 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> In reply to @PMunch "<@77574388035100672>, and you don't": thanks! |
| 16:37:20 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> Not the biggest fan of `%` though |
| 16:39:23 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> It got merged 😄 |
| 16:43:54 | PMunch | Why not? |
| 16:46:07 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> Probably unfamiliarity, not used to using `%` for constructing a new JSON type |
| 16:46:55 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> So that makes `foo.newJInt` more readable to me, but that's more of a case of getting used to new syntax ofcourse |
| 16:48:57 | PMunch | Fair enough |
| 16:56:41 | ForumUpdaterBot | New thread by HJarausch: Nim (devel) compilation takes a very long time with option --gc:orc, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7759 |
| 16:57:18 | federico3 | https://media.ccc.de/v/rc3-525180-what_have_we_lost enjoy |
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| 17:11:28 | PMunch | Ooh fun |
| 17:15:59 | Oddmonger | why OS/400 is here (link above) ? It's still widely used |
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| 17:19:38 | federico3 | widely? |
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| 17:21:30 | Oddmonger | yes it's still common in big companies |
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| 17:22:24 | Oddmonger | now you will seldom see directly the 5250 terminal screen, it's now most used as a DB with java backend |
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| 18:06:57 | ForumUpdaterBot | New thread by Miran: 3rd Nim online meetup, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7760 |
| 18:14:06 | FromDiscord | <mlokis> In reply to @federico3 "https://media.ccc.de/v/rc3-525180-what_have_we_lost": you can also use south Korea OS, every your file gets unique id that is easily trackable |
| 18:16:56 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Don't you mean North Korea? :P |
| 18:26:26 | FromDiscord | <Conifer> pretty sure they mean north korean indeed. |
| 18:27:39 | FromDiscord | <IDF(ardek66)> and that one is a linux distro too |
| 18:29:03 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Isn't it Star OS or some shit? |
| 18:29:46 | federico3 | @mlokis it uses watermarking and not on all files |
| 18:32:27 | FromDiscord | <mlokis> did i really swapped the poles lol |
| 18:35:05 | ForumUpdaterBot | New thread by Japplegame: It is a bug?, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7761 |
| 18:35:58 | reversem3 | <FromDiscord "<mlokis> In reply to @federico3 "> This is very cool , I remember a lot of these systems when I was looking for alternative OS's back in the day. One that really stands out is plan9 fork called 9 front which still uses acme editor http://fqa.9front.org/fqa1.html |
| 18:37:42 | FromDiscord | <mlokis> why are these bots everiwhare |
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| 18:42:04 | FromDiscord | <IDF(ardek66)> the robots are taking over |
| 19:19:31 | FromGitter | <UrKr> How would I reuse the same datastructures on the server and the client? That is if I have some complex nim type that is being edited by nim generated JS in the browser, how would I send it to the server and vice-versa? |
| 19:20:15 | FromGitter | <UrKr> do I need to write custom code to serialise/deserialise or is there something else? |
| 19:21:29 | FromDiscord | <dom96> You can just serialize to/from JSON |
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| 20:35:38 | ForumUpdaterBot | New thread by Japplegame: Nim compiler generates strange C code, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7762 |
| 20:38:12 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> Is there anything like Scala's case classes (https://docs.scala-lang.org/tour/case-classes.html) for Nim? |
| 20:38:35 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Oof no-one has commented on my post yet :p |
| 20:38:51 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Nim doesn't have classes @zetashift |
| 20:39:10 | FromDiscord | <konsumlamm> case classes don't have much to do with OOP classes tbf |
| 20:40:21 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> If you arent using runtime instantiations you could do `type Message[sender,recipient,body: static string] = object` 😄 |
| 20:41:03 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> For runtime instantiations it's as simple as making a `Message` object and using getters for the properties |
| 20:41:16 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> That way only your `initMessage` can set the fields and you cannot change them elsewhere |
| 20:41:22 | PMunch | @Technisha, which post? |
| 20:41:33 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> In reply to @Technisha|💻⭐ "Oof no-one has commented": I don't know much about JNim sadly |
| 20:41:38 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> @PMunch https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7757 |
| 20:41:43 | FromDiscord | <konsumlamm> In reply to @zetashift "Is there anything like": which aspect do you mean? for pattern matching, there is `fusion/matching` (<https://nim-lang.github.io/fusion/src/fusion/matching>) which works with normal `object` and `ref object` types, for ADTs. there are variant objects, for auto-generated `==` and `hash`, you get those for free for any object type |
| 20:42:36 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> I didn't know about the auto-generated `==` and `hash` actually, thank you for that haha |
| 20:43:39 | FromDiscord | <konsumlamm> (`$` is also auto-generated) |
| 20:44:03 | FromDiscord | <konsumlamm> but that doesn't apply to ref objects |
| 20:44:54 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> I guess only thing missing is auto generated `apply` equivalents |
| 20:44:59 | PMunch | @Technisha, I'm guessing it's because it can't find the Main class.. |
| 20:45:21 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Oh |
| 20:45:23 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> I didnt comment cause i was uncertain but yea, i feel like you need to tell it you're using the minecraft api |
| 20:45:25 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> Writing init methods sometimes for small types is a bit of a pain and writing `Foo(bar: bar, baz: baz)` |
| 20:45:33 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Constructor zeta |
| 20:45:36 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Use my package |
| 20:45:39 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> I'm dumb xD |
| 20:45:54 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Lemme try finding the actual main class now (just have to decompile it on my RPI...) |
| 20:45:54 | PMunch | Looks like main takes a string |
| 20:46:14 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> @zetashift https://github.com/beef331/constructor do it! 😛 |
| 20:46:22 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> In reply to @ElegantBeef "Use my package": I was googling your name but forgot the github part so I got some pictures of really fancy beefs |
| 20:46:25 | PMunch | So try to do `proc main(astring: string)` in your definition |
| 20:46:33 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> now you're just hungry |
| 20:46:56 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> `defaults` and `construct` are there to reduce the tedium |
| 20:46:57 | PMunch | Where the string is the command line input |
| 20:47:12 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> Yeah this looks like the missing part thank you! |
| 20:47:45 | PMunch | Oh, it looks like the class is also called MinecraftServer and not `Main` |
| 20:48:03 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VkW |
| 20:48:22 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Or if you want default values defaults is pretty nice and fairly idiomatic |
| 20:49:13 | PMunch | @Technisha, try this: http://ix.io/2VkX/nim |
| 20:50:44 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Oh okay! Thanks! |
| 20:51:26 | PMunch | Just a wild guess by the way, no idea if it'll work or not :P |
| 20:52:18 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> In reply to @ElegantBeef "You still have to": Still works well enough |
| 20:52:35 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Yay "well enough" that's all i need to hear! |
| 20:52:45 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Yeah PMunch still not working :p |
| 20:53:10 | PMunch | Haha, well it was worth a shot |
| 20:53:15 | PMunch | Same error? |
| 20:53:16 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Yeah haha |
| 20:53:20 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Yup |
| 20:53:32 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> I'd paste it but discord being a bitch |
| 20:53:46 | PMunch | Maybe someone who has actually used JNim can help |
| 20:53:52 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> And formatting from copying from tmux also being stupid :p |
| 20:53:55 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Yeah haha |
| 20:55:29 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> I have a feeling you need some way to tell jnim you're using non standard java libraries |
| 20:55:35 | FromDiscord | <zetashift> Maybe open an issue in the repo? |
| 20:55:42 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Oh? |
| 20:55:57 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> or type yuriy's name here and hope he awakens from his slumber to help 😛 |
| 20:56:05 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> In reply to @PMunch "Maybe someone who has": Don't have spoons for that :p |
| 20:56:08 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> XD |
| 20:56:26 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Idk what his name is exactly lmao |
| 20:56:34 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> It's literally on his github |
| 20:56:53 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Most people go by their github names(aside from me of course) |
| 20:57:05 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> I'll check in a bit just tired+low on spoons |
| 20:57:08 | PMunch | Spoons? |
| 20:57:25 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> string spoons |
| 20:57:28 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Dont wanna be low on them |
| 20:58:17 | PMunch | Haha :P |
| 20:58:23 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Pmunch i'm impatiently waiting for your picos so i can cry that everything is unintuitive and garbage 😛 |
| 20:58:40 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> https://www.healthline.com/health/spoon-theory-chronic-illness-explained-like-never-before |
| 20:58:42 | PMunch | They are in the mail and have arrived in Norway! |
| 20:58:52 | PMunch | So I'll probably have them within a couple of days |
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| 20:59:11 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> I'm not chronically ill but it's a good way to describe everything for me |
| 21:00:30 | PMunch | Ugh, healthline is one of those sites that won't allow you to browse without cookies |
| 21:00:38 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Oof |
| 21:00:45 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> I can copy and paste everything :p |
| 21:00:58 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Ironic that they want you to indulge in cookies to visit a site with health in the name |
| 21:01:08 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> XD |
| 21:02:00 | FromDiscord | <lamersc> I love people who unironically say they’re a programmer then I say what language and they tell me HTML |
| 21:02:45 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> replace html with python and you got a good joke |
| 21:03:27 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> Calm down everyone typing it was a joke, i dont gatekeep unless you write python 😉 |
| 21:04:50 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Lmao |
| 21:05:09 | FromGitter | <ynfle> Nim's syntax is because of python, so if python isn't a language, nim isn't |
| 21:05:26 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> TIL offside rule only exists cause of python |
| 21:08:37 | Fish-Face | learning is good |
| 21:09:01 | Fish-Face | PMunch: spoons are an unnecessarily confusing way of saying "mental energy" |
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| 21:10:16 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Not for neurodivergent people :p |
| 21:10:29 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> (People with things like ADHD and shit) |
| 21:10:31 | Fish-Face | I would like to learn how to use `parallel`, but the documentation seems lacking - it doesn't explain what is actually happening inside the `parallel` block, for example. Is there any tutorial or something for it |
| 21:11:06 | Fish-Face | I don't see why the term needs to be different; it seems like some people just have less mental energy to begin with, or have it depleted differently than other people |
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| 21:12:32 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> @yglukhov, could i have some help with JNim? :P |
| 21:13:05 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> I'm tryna use JNim to create a wrapper around the Paper server jar |
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| 21:13:16 | Fish-Face | "spoon theory" takes something everyone understands (not having the energy to do something) and puts it in terms of something less helpful, because while we all need mental energy to do everyday tasks, nobody needs spoons to do tasks that aren't eating and things! So it has to say "imagine if you needed a certain number of spoons to do something" instead of "you know how you need energy to do things" :) |
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| 21:13:44 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Basically it's spoons for mental energy instead of cooking ingredients :p |
| 21:14:04 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> So i have 2 teaspoons and 3 spoons worth of energy (as an example) |
| 21:14:05 | leorize[m] | Fish-Face: my genuine advice is don't even try to understand how parallel work |
| 21:14:32 | Fish-Face | leorize[m]: and hence... don't use it? |
| 21:15:14 | leorize[m] | yep, there's mratsim's weave if you need computational parallelism |
| 21:15:45 | Fish-Face | ah |
| 21:15:58 | Fish-Face | I am always biased towards stdlib for unknown reasons |
| 21:16:02 | leorize[m] | parallel is broken by design and the replacement is still in the concepts state |
| 21:16:21 | Fish-Face | by design? |
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| 21:18:17 | Fish-Face | @Technisha right, but I don't think anyone has any universal understanding of how "one teaspoon" corresponds to "ability to perform tasks" because there's no standard for that, and besides everyone's requirements are unique to them, and impossible to describe (whether talking in terms of spoons or something else, I mean) |
| 21:19:19 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Yeah definitely, but for me it's just a way to represent it |
| 21:19:30 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> So for me, one smaller task is worth a teaspoon :p |
| 21:19:30 | Fish-Face | mmm |
| 21:20:14 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> It's not a universal thing |
| 21:20:24 | leorize[m] | parallel's analysis is completely flawed if you may. afaik we are redesigning the basis behind how parallel can detect/prevent races as simpler primitives |
| 21:20:25 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> And yeah at first i found the concept kinda stupid |
| 21:20:36 | leorize[m] | std/isolation is the first step torwards this |
| 21:20:45 | Fish-Face | ok |
| 21:20:54 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> But it's just a neat way for me to describe it in a few words for servers that are familiar with that type of thing :p |
| 21:21:31 | Fish-Face | I did have one crash from what I think should be correct (and compiling) code that normally works that uses parallel. (I stalled because I couldn't get anything that uses `Lock`s to work) |
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| 21:22:18 | Fish-Face | @Technisha how often do you have to explain the choice of words :P (Don't feel like you actually have to answer that) |
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| 21:23:26 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Basically never aha |
| 21:23:43 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> I don't actually use the term frequently unless I'm extremely tired mentally :p |
| 21:24:21 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Though I don't mind explaining it and if someone thinks it's stupid, i understand that :p |
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| 21:25:16 | Fish-Face | I used to think it was just me who thought like this but a while ago I talked about it with my cousin - who has ME - and my aunt, who agreed, so uhhh yay for me |
| 21:25:22 | Fish-Face | but not yay for ME |
| 21:26:21 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> ME? |
| 21:27:02 | Fish-Face | aka Chronic Fatigue |
| 21:27:49 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> Ah |
| 21:28:16 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> For me it's ADHD and various other mental issues :p |
| 21:28:38 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> And plurality but that's not much of a condition more so a thing i live with :p |
| 21:29:00 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> https://morethanone.info for some plurality info |
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| 21:47:15 | FromDiscord | <elph> hi, a basic question: how do I get the a file's path relatively to a unit test? so let's say I have a test at `$PROJ/tests/my_test.nim` and want to read a file in `$PROJ/tests/foo.txt`? |
| 21:48:22 | FromDiscord | <elph> (read the file from `my_test.nim` that is) |
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| 22:05:52 | FromDiscord | <mrotaru> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/2Vln |
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| 22:07:32 | FromDiscord | <dom96> you need to add `requires "fsnotify"` in your .nimble file |
| 22:11:01 | FromDiscord | <mrotaru> In reply to @dom96 "you need to add": Thanks ! |
| 22:11:17 | FromDiscord | <mrotaru> still, where _does_ nimble place installed files ? |
| 22:11:32 | FromDiscord | <mrotaru> they don't seem to be inside the project |
| 22:12:00 | FromDiscord | <ElegantBeef> `~/.nimble/pkgs` |
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| 22:21:44 | leorize | @Clonkk @zetashift fixed that bug in nim.nvim :) please update your installation and test |
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| 23:06:16 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> :p |
| 23:09:25 | FromDiscord | <Technisha> :p |
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| 23:23:21 | FromDiscord | <Gary M> :p |
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