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01:58:45GitDisc<treeform> I am trying to see how to add a test to nim, but this page does not explain it well? https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/tests/readme.md
02:05:25GitDisc<treeform> it looks like it picks it up automatically, they just take so long to run: `PASS: tparsesql.nim C`
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02:18:17GitDisc<treeform> its seems like when I run tests manually from a repor all boehm gc tests fail on mac. Do I need to install some thing extra?
02:18:29GitDisc<treeform> `./koch tests`
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02:46:12FromGitter<Varriount> Treeform: you'll need the boehm shared library
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04:51:44GitDisc<treeform> ill try `brew install libgc`
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05:00:42GitDisc<treeform> that seems like it fixed these tests failing
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05:30:05andrewtheninjaAnyone know what I'm supposed to do with the zip file of DLLs provided for windows users?
05:30:16andrewtheninjaWould I just stick them in mingw32's bin folder?
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05:51:25andrewtheninjanever mind, problem solved. The dlls can go in basically any directory as long as they are added to your path. BTW your install process is sweet. So much easier than Rust's.
05:53:03FromGitter<Varriount> andrewtheninja: :D
05:54:08FromGitter<Varriount> andrewtheninja: One of the things that led me to Nim was the fact that, out of all the other languages I tried, it took less than 10 minutes to get a x86-64 version of the compiler up and running.
05:55:11FromGitter<Varriount> Most other languages have prepackaged compilers that only output x86 (32-bit) executables, so if you want x86-64 executables, you have to build the compiler toolchain from scratch.
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07:59:25PMunchHmm, it appears that my workaround of creating an ident for "result" and using that ident in quote do is starting to break down
07:59:31PMunchNot entirely sure why though..
08:06:02PMunchIs there another way to "rename" the result variable?
08:07:01PMunchI want the compiler optimizations of using it, but this doesn't seem to work
08:09:40PMunchHmm, tried renaming my result variable and that didn't work either. My error might be elsewhere
08:11:00FromGitter<Varriount> PMunch: Use another template for it, with hygiene turned off?
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08:13:03skrylarAraq, y u no integers in critbit module :<
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08:16:32PMunchVarriount, well it seems like that's not what's causing the issue..
08:17:03PMunchI tried to create a new variable and use that instead of "result" and I get the same undeclared error as with result
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08:28:18FromGitter<Varriount> Could you post the code
08:32:57PMunchhttps://github.com/PMunch/binaryparse
08:33:58PMunchThe problem was in the return type definition. It creates something like this: proc something(stream: Stream): tuple[size: uint16, inner: type(list(stream, result.size))
08:34:18PMunchIt's trying to use result.size in the type block to return the correct type
08:36:58PMunchHmm, is there another way to get the type a function would return?
08:37:25PMunchI guess I'd have to know the types..
08:37:25FromGitter<Varriount> PMunch: Is the function a generic?
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08:37:35PMunchNo
08:37:40FromGitter<Varriount> If not, you can probably use getTypeImpl
08:38:22PMunchError, node has no type
08:38:29PMunchThe input is untyped
08:40:33FromGitter<Varriount> PMunch: Well, then you might have to make it typed then.
08:41:30PMunchThat doesn't work with the rest of the macro though..
08:41:39FromGitter<Varriount> Hm.
08:41:59PMunchI think I have a solution, not the prettiest but it will work
08:42:28FromGitter<Varriount> PMunch: Might want to talk with Araq.
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08:56:05PMunchHmm, I don't think my solution would work since type needs actual parameters and can't do "type(list(Stream, int))" for example
08:58:50FromGitter<Varriount> @dom96 Looks like there are posts on the forum that need to be moderated.
08:59:12FromGitter<Varriount> Or rather, released to the public
09:02:40PMunchProblem is that this doesn't work: proc myParser(:tmp136188: Stream): tuple[size: uint16, data: seq[int8], str: seq[string], inner: type(list(:tmp136188, size))]
09:03:07PMunchSince size isn't seen by the type(list()) thing
09:03:27PMunchList is a proc by the way that takes a Stream and a uint16
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09:06:24FromGitter<alehander42> PMunch: often for my macros I needed to generate another macro invocation with an untyped macro
09:06:43FromGitter<alehander42> and then the second macro invocation uses typed params and it does the job for which it requires types
09:06:52FromGitter<alehander42> I am not sure if you can use this approach for your problem
09:09:32FromGitter<alehander42> otherwise, do you know of the opposite dsl of your parser? I want to generate `seq[byte]` from structs in a similar way to how Elixir streams work: ⏎ ⏎ ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5a29054b87680e6230e03d73]
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09:14:03FromGitter<alehander42> it would work like ⏎ ⏎ ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5a29065bcc1d527f6b000512]
09:14:41FromGitter<alehander42> I'll create a PR if I implement it
09:15:12PMunchWhat is binary in that sense?
09:16:07FromGitter<alehander42> well, the output
09:16:10PMunchAnd yeah, I remember someone getting the type out of things from within an untyped macro, but I can't remember how they did it
09:16:16FromGitter<alehander42> some kind of binary format specified by genBinary
09:16:30FromGitter<alehander42> I know of unpack and pack in python(we have such a lib), but I dont like it
09:16:47FromGitter<alehander42> it seems easy, I'll give it a try
09:20:47FromGitter<alehander42> overally, what do people use for binary data here? cstring or seq[byte] ? I use seq[byte] usually
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09:29:20PMunchYes! I got it working!
09:30:40PMunchThe trick was simply to write a typed macro that returns a return type and add that as the type for the fields I wanted to get the type of
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09:34:51FromGitter<alehander42> good work!
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09:41:04FromGitter<alehander42> oh I got an initial version of my generator to work too
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09:42:31FromGitter<alehander42> it even support something like composition of object generators
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10:54:53PMunchIt would be cool if Nims docgen could export the module explanation to GitHub markdown
10:55:21PMunchSo you could do "nim doc2 --github project.nim > README.md"
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11:34:39PMunchCreated this: https://github.com/PMunch/binaryparse/blob/master/nimtorst to grab the module documentation and write it to a README.rst which GitHub can use
11:35:03PMunchOutput: https://github.com/PMunch/binaryparse
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12:16:19Araqhttp://nibblestew.blogspot.de/2017/09/comparing-c-and-c-usage-and-performance.html
12:19:10AraqLOL!
12:19:13Araq"The only other programming language in common use that is capable of doing this is Objective C but it has the unfortunate downside of being Objective C."
12:19:23AraqXD
12:20:46PMunchHaha :P
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12:44:21FromGitter<mratsim> @alehander42 @Varriount You can write a recursive iterator without using `yield from`. Note: if recursive at compile-time it is an unsupported hack (see https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/6807).
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12:52:56FromGitter<mratsim> Oh: Hiring Nim devs: https://www.reddit.com/r/nim/comments/7i3n8y/hiring_nim_devs_for_ethereum_implementation/
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12:55:17PMunchmratsim, yeah I saw that this morning
12:58:31PMunchWonder what the pay would be
12:58:48PMunchThey don't mention it on their site nor the reddit post
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13:13:03dom96Isn't that quite common with job posts? :)
13:13:35FromGitter<mratsim> Well in Switzerland the pay is higher than in any other country so don’t worry :P.
13:21:01FromGitter<Varriount> My ancestors came from Switzerland.
13:21:40PMunchdom96, yeah many postings will vary their pay based on the applicants seniority. I was just wondering what a Nim job would pay :P
13:23:04PMunchSince it's such a young language it could sway a bit both ways I think
13:23:22FromGitter<alehander42> @PMunch on the other hand there are not exactly loads of experience Nim developers :D a limited supply.
13:24:07dom96Yeah, based on what I've seen I'd say it would sway the more attractive way ;)
13:24:17dom96but who knows.
13:24:33dom96I would actually really love to do this, but not sure if I can commit those 30 hours per week while at Uni.
13:25:21PMunchYeah 30h/m is pretty much a full time job
13:25:44PMunchWell, 3/4ths of one
13:25:56PMunchI'd love to do it as well, but I've already got a job :P
13:25:58dom96yeah
13:26:22FromGitter<alehander42> they might relax that requirement if they find out most people would agree on a more part-timeish thing
13:26:43dom96Perhaps they'd be willing to hire a few part-time developers
13:26:50dom96Although I can see why that wouldn't be ideal
13:31:36PMunchTrue, but seeing how you're such a big name in the Nim community I think they'de be willing to be flexible, at least for you
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13:35:50dom96Even if that doesn't happen I'm still happy and hoping they find somebody. If it works out then I'm sure they'll be looking for more Nim developers in the future.
13:39:50PMunchYeah, it's certainly cool seeing that there's enough interest for the language that people are hiring
13:49:46FromGitter<Varriount> dom96: For comparison, I've worked 30h a week while at college.
13:50:19dom96How did you survive that? :o
13:50:25FromGitter<Varriount> I don't know if you follow the same credit system, but you'll have to drop the number of classes you take
13:51:24FromGitter<Varriount> The most I took was 12 credit hours + 30 hour work week
13:51:27dom96oh, I don't think our universities let you do that.
13:51:29FromGitter<alehander42> many of my costudents were working at least ~30h a week from 2nd or 3rd uni year
13:51:46dom96You either have to officially enroll on a part-time course or do the full-time one.
13:52:11FromGitter<alehander42> but we didn't have compulsory attendance, if you pass your exams, you're good to go
13:52:22FromGitter<Varriount> dom96: You can't just take less classes?
13:53:04FromGitter<Varriount> Also, universities here tend to count 12 credit hours as the minimum for a "full-time" student.
13:53:05dom96Varriount: not as far as I know
13:53:35dom96We are just told "You must choose 4 modules for the full year"
13:54:16FromGitter<Varriount> Ah.
13:54:19dom96this doesn't include the final year project which is equivalent to two modules
13:54:50FromGitter<Varriount> We have our year broken up into 2 main semesters, plus an optional summer semester.
13:55:45dom96what's offered over the summer?
13:56:03dom96we have ours broken into 2 semesters as well
13:56:11FromGitter<Varriount> Usually elective classes or specially courses.
13:56:43FromGitter<Varriount> Though, most degrees still require that you take certain elective classes
13:57:00FromGitter<Varriount> I took Game Development last summer.
13:57:48FromGitter<Varriount> @dom96 What are modules?
13:58:13dom96A class I guess
14:04:52FromGitter<zacharycarter> I applied :P
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14:31:24PMunchHmm, I wonder how they make money.. All the code is OS
14:33:02FromGitter<ephja> bank jobs
14:36:20FromGitter<alehander42> they're a crypt company, c'mon.. https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/status-im
14:36:37FromGitter<alehander42> crypto*
14:37:22FromGitter<alehander42> 2017 was the year of the ICO-s for the eth world
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14:55:10FromGitter<mratsim> $99M of funding in Zug (Swiss tax haven, 8% tax iirc) wow !
14:56:54cremZug? was? Funding for what?
14:57:50PMunchcrem, the company behind this: https://www.reddit.com/r/nim/comments/7i3n8y/hiring_nim_devs_for_ethereum_implementation/
14:58:42FromGitter<zetashift> Zug is an area in Switzerland?
14:58:56cremIt's a canton and a city, yes
14:59:04FromGitter<zetashift> Also anyone know the nim equivalent of re.group() in python?
15:05:29Araqre's =~ injects a 'matches' into the current scope (don't ask why, it was such a nice hack we kept it)
15:05:50FromGitter<zetashift> thanks!
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15:13:43enthus1astok nimble is also looking at git tags...
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15:16:01FromGitter<alehander42> crem: that's not venture capital, it's ICO: an entity releases some eth-based tokens and people invest: they buy them for some initial price. the concept is that tokens are somehow connected to a platform and they can go up in price (their token is : https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/status/) ⏎ there have been many ICO-s this year, some of them very controversial, however nobody can argue that they've been an
15:16:01FromGitter... effective funding method
15:16:59enthus1astburning electricity for nothing
15:17:05enthus1astbut fate
15:17:38dom96I've been waiting for BTC to crash for what feels like years now in order to buy some
15:18:02FromGitter<alehander42> eth will eventually start using POW with should at least fix the wasted electricity thing a bit
15:18:18FromGitter<alehander42> POS *
15:18:39PMunchI've been waiting for BTC to crash for ages as people realize how unscalable it is
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15:18:54PMunchNot only blockchain size stuff, but also the power consumption
15:19:08skrylarwell, i'm non-plussed about ETH because of the whole conflict of interest bit
15:19:15PMunchBitcoin transaction now surpass some countries in power usage..
15:19:23skrylarother then that, it would be nice to see proof of stake systems taking off :/
15:19:31FromGitter<alehander42> :D that's a problem for eth too. they had their first viral app (cryptokitties.. I know..) and it clogged the whole network a lot these days
15:19:37cremHm, somehow the code in nim for me doesn't look as neat as python or C++.
15:19:42PMunchI saw Microsoft partnered with IOTA yesterday, that's pretty huge
15:19:56skrylari spent most of the morning learning crm114 o.O
15:20:00cremProbably mostly because I'd like to put all public functions at top, but cannot..
15:20:15PMunchcrem, you can forward declare
15:21:00cremI don't have to forward declare even in C++! And nim is from 21st century, it's not Go.
15:21:17cremBut I think in Go I don't have to forward declare either.
15:21:27PMunchYeah I agree, the declaration order is a bit annoying
15:21:33Araqthere are good reasons for it
15:22:13Araqwe have {.reorder: on.} that avoids forward decls, *shrug*
15:22:50AraqI personally like them, it's the natural order, I don't write echo x; var x = 3 in a proc body either and expect it to work
15:23:46PMunchYeah but now you end up having utility functions at the top, and actually interesting procs at the bottom
15:24:29Araqfor me, that's a feature. at least there is an order. in practice I've found the order totally arbitrary in Java and the likes
15:24:37FromGitter<alehander42> it's not natural, when you open a file, you want to see the important functions on top, not the opposite
15:24:50Araq"interesting procs come first" is nothing I've encountered in C# or java
15:25:02FromGitter<alehander42> it might not be, but at least it's possible :D
15:25:29Araqto look at the exported interface, I use 'nim doc file.nim && file.html'
15:25:30FromGitter<alehander42> I also don't think it's a big deal, but it would be cool if it's optional (is reorder expermntl?)
15:25:54enthus1astniv or Araq fyi websocket is missing the 0.2.2 tag so nimble is installing the broken in devel one
15:26:06cremAlso I miss protected/friend things. :) After splitting one file into two, I ended up exporting much more fields of an object that I really need.
15:26:19PMunchIs there any docs on reorder?
15:26:25PMunchCan't find it by googling
15:26:29Araqreorder is a bit fragile given Nim's macro system. I've a better solution now, I think, but it's not part of the big v1 plan.
15:26:29cremCode is the best doc.
15:27:25Araqcrem, yeah whatever, at this point you seem into FUD mode. Throw as much as dirt as you can and see what sticks.
15:27:28FromGitter<alehander42> fundamentally, why isn't it possible to have a minipass that loads all signatures from a file?
15:27:49cremLet me google it. :)
15:28:44Araqalehander42: reorder is that 'mini pass'
15:28:45skrylarpretty sure araq once said you're just meant to read the module bottom up
15:29:05Araqskrylar, I've just repeated this, yes. at least it is an order.
15:30:04AraqI'm always willing to improve things that personally don't affect me.
15:30:14cremAraq: what should I do instead? Pick the thing that I dislike the most and only say it? Maybe I sound a bit biased, because most things about nim I like but don't tell about them. But there are things that are not customary for me.
15:31:17cremHm, or that was about "Code is the best doc"?.. Unlike other messages, that meant to be a joke. (with no intention of offence)
15:31:30Araqyeah, it was about that specific comment
15:31:37Araqah ok. lol.
15:32:22FromGitter<alehander42> so basically if I don't define any macros in a file, reorder should be kinda fine?
15:33:33AraqI think so. it's also fine with macros, most of the time :P
15:33:57Araqbut it's a prepass that "guesses" too much. I'd like to incorporate it properly into the frontend instead
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15:34:30FromGitter<alehander42> I'll try to use it then in some cases :D
15:34:44Araqdon't enable it for system.nim.
15:35:02Araqsystem.nim relies on 'when not declared(foo): proc foo() = ...' :P
15:35:51Araqcrem, D doesn't have forwarding and they are still fixing bugs wrt their symbol lookup rules
15:36:01FromGitter<alehander42> of course :D
15:36:11Araqok, I think they got it stable by now. but it took them months.
15:36:19Araqand for good reasons.
15:36:32Araqproc p(x: type(q)) = discard
15:36:39Araqproc q(x: type(p)) = discard
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15:38:50Araqnot too mention #nim will love error messages like "symbol foo not found, requested from compilation of proc bar which was compiled before baz because we took some random walk over the module graph"
15:40:21Araqbtw, araq-new-mm2 is green :-)
15:40:45Araqthat means we now have O(1) alloc/deallocs with non-absurd fragmentation behaviours
15:41:10Araq(allocated 2GB of RAM but cannot serve this 32MB allocation request...)
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15:54:07skrylard is also more or less dead
15:54:14skrylarandrej nuked it
15:55:02skrylarit didn't help that the "official spec" was considered "wrong" and you were expected to buy his book for the "real" one, or that andrej singlehandedly brought forth every bad decision and major crashing bug that D2 had
15:59:48AraqI don't think that's fair to say. But let's assume you're right, it doesn't mean we cannot learn from it.
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16:08:21skrylarAraq, well they gained all their rep under Walter, and lost it under Andrej. Seems like a fair enough tl;dr
16:09:25AraqI was talking about the requirements for forward declarations
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16:18:34FromGitter<zetashift> Anybody a regularexpr master that can help me with extracting "suvtxzq (242) -> tdoxrnb, oanxgk" as "node(suvtxzq), weight(242), children(tdoxnb, oanxgk)"
16:18:55FromGitter<zetashift> I got only re"\w+" but I don't know shit about regular expr
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16:25:53FromGitter<SolitudeSF> something like this? `(\w+) \((\d+)\) -> (\w+), (\w+)`
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16:30:11FromGitter<zetashift> That didn't work:(. I was probably too vague, but I want to bind the first string to a node variable the number to a weight variable and the strings after the -> in a list
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16:36:38skrylarAraq, is there a secret to --symbolfiles:on working :b
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16:40:19GitDisc<treeform> Hey Araq, i know this is a pain, but can you take a look at parsesql.nim patch? https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/6879 I just want to know if I am going in the right direction. Is this some thing you would like to see?
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16:55:07FromGitter<Yardanico> wow, discord bridge still works
16:55:15FromGitter<Yardanico> (on my forgotten VPS) :P
16:55:53FromGitter<Yardanico> hi everyone btw
16:56:34Araqtreeform: already skimmed it, seems fine
16:56:45Araqwant to add a serious test case before I merge it
16:58:45FromGitter<Yardanico> " 217 files changed, 4350 insertions(+), 4360 deletions(-)" didn't update Nim in like 1 or 1.5 months :)
16:59:22FromGitter<zetashift> Hiya Yardanico whatsup
17:00:26GitDisc<treeform> Araq, what kind of test cases would you like me to add? I have added some and will add more.
17:00:35FromGitter<Yardanico> hey @zetashift :)
17:02:18FromGitter<Yardanico> it seems it's time to check if my public nim projects compile with latest nim
17:02:23FromGitter<Yardanico> and fix them if they don't
17:02:23GitDisc<treeform> Yardanico, thank you for making the discord bridge.
17:02:37GitDisc<treeform> That is main reason I became active on here.
17:02:52FromGitter<Yardanico> well I didn't develop it
17:02:55FromGitter<Yardanico> only installed it on VPS
17:03:03GitDisc<treeform> still
17:03:33GitDisc<treeform> Yardanico, thank you for setting up the discord bridge on a VPS, That is main reason I became active on here.
17:03:44FromGitter<Yardanico> ok, you're welcome :)
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17:30:06Araqtreeform, my own production SQL model, probably obfuscated :P
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18:02:16FromGitter<zetashift> Okay I'm still stuck at this, it's adventofcode day 7 part 1: https://play.nim-lang.org/?gist=397521417d54cdca27c6565f9109cbcc . Instead of a set containing the only base I get a big set; this is my input.txt https://pastebin.com/2Wyux3Y9
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18:06:19FromGitter<zetashift> I'm guessing it when I add the children I don't add it correctly
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18:12:28FromGitter<zetashift> right that's stupid I forgot to trim the whitespace before every child so it can't compare correctly
18:12:55FromGitter<zetashift> But I already strip it so what other options do I have in Nim?
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18:13:43FromGitter<zetashift> fixed it, I'm stupid
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18:40:12ehmryI'm having problems calling Nim procedures from C when they try and call `getStackTrace`, presumably because the pointer to the stack frame info is bad. using `setFrame` to set new stack info seems to fix it but is there something better I should be doing?
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19:00:41GitDisc<treeform> Araq, you want it to be able to parse more create table statements? Is that what you mean by model?
19:01:16GitDisc<treeform> parsing these all fail, I can add support for it: https://gist.github.com/treeform/e407604dc8fc4e00547574e285de4b0a
19:10:17Araqehmry: well I am not sure why that would be required
19:11:34Araqtreeform: I mean I need to add my database model to ensure it keeps working
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19:17:30miranhi guys! is there an easy way to pop a value from a set?
19:18:43Araqbitset? nah.
19:19:37miranset from sets module
19:20:49miranin this example, i'm left with one value in the set, so something like {"value"}, and would like to extract that string
19:22:49AraqPRs welcome
19:23:12miranfor PR i would need to have an idea how to do it :D
19:23:30miranbut i'll think about it during weekend
19:26:09Araqcheck how 'items' is implemented and turn it into a 'pop'
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19:27:01miranok, will give it a try
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19:49:05ehmryAraq: well I am letting `NimMain` return and then the OS is waking up signal handlers that call Nim
19:49:38ehmryso I should probably do some cleanup if I'm going to let `NimMain` return without exiting
19:49:50mirananother question: let's say i have a sequence @[5, 3, 5, 2, 5] and i need to find the count of each (unique) member of a sequence, something like: {5: 3, 3: 1, 2: 1}
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19:50:21mirani've tried to use CountTable, but i guess i don't know how to use it because i don't get the desired output
19:51:00Araqseems dangerous for the GC, ehmry
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19:51:10Araqthe GC needs to know the stack
19:51:46ehmryyea, I hadn't considered that at first
19:52:02ehmrynow I'm in trouble
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19:54:04ehmryI'll have to understand the generated code better then
19:55:28Araqwell eventually a "stack free" GC/destructor based thing will arrive
20:04:21ehmryanyway, I've made a mess but nim is still doing cool shit for me that I wouldn't have been able to do otherwise
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20:36:09FromGitter<zetashift> @miran have you by any chance done part2 of day7 of AoC?
20:36:46miranzetashift - i'm working on it, that's why i'm asking about something that i could use instead of python's collections.counter
20:37:16miranwithout it, i don't know how to find which weight is wrong
20:37:25FromGitter<zetashift> I'm using tables instead of seq's in part2
20:37:30FromGitter<zetashift> and used sets in part1
20:38:10miransets + tables for part1, for me
20:38:20mirantables to store the data, sets to find the root
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20:39:44mirannow i managed to find node(s) which are unbalanced, i know the (total) weights of every child
20:40:44miranso you have something like [500, 500, 490] - i've solved this in python, but have no idea how to implement it in nim....
20:42:08FromGitter<konqoro> miran: if you decide to use a CountTable you only need to call T.inc(key)
20:42:18FromGitter<konqoro> if you use a Table then T.mgetOrPut(key, 0) += 1
20:42:31FromGitter<konqoro> but CountTable has no delete method if you need it
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20:42:56mirankonqoro - can you please expand about CountTable please?
20:43:28FromGitter<konqoro> what about it?
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20:43:40miranlet's say you have a seq [500, 500, 500, 490, 500, 500] - how would you create CountTable from it?
20:43:44FromGitter<zetashift> I also tried Scala where I could solve it faster with pattern matching but I'm making a thinking mistake with Nim here
20:44:02mirani guess in the end you should have {500: 5, 490: 1}
20:44:32FromGitter<konqoro> just a: for v in items([400 ..]): t.inc(v)
20:44:45miranok, i'll try that
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20:47:46miranok, created. using t.largest gives me (500, 5), which is correct, but t.smallest gives (0, 0)?!
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20:49:43FromGitter<konqoro> is it day 7? haven't gotten there yet
20:50:07miranyes, day 7, part II
20:51:15FromGitter<konqoro> do you need to return the elements with the highest count or smth?
20:51:53FromGitter<konqoro> (I can read it part 2 cause I didnt unlock it)
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20:54:01miranbasically, you need to find the one element that stands out (it is different than the rest)
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20:57:30FromGitter<konqoro> you will probably want to use delete then.
20:58:51FromGitter<georgemporter_twitter> Hi everyone! I'm very new to Nim (as of this morning). I was able to build Nim and use it (version 0.17.3), and was able to build nimble. But trying to install nimble caused a fatal error: "Error: unhandled exception: value out of range: -1 [RangeError"
21:00:05FromGitter<georgemporter_twitter> It seems like as part of installing nimble, it's trying to re-build Nim from git sources, and that is failing
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21:07:25FromGitter<zetashift> @georgemporter_twitter did you use koch or the nimble install from source?
21:09:32FromGitter<georgemporter_twitter> I followed these instructions: http://howistart.org/posts/nim/1/index.html
21:09:40FromGitter<georgemporter_twitter> I ran "nim c -r src/nimble install" and that's what failed
21:09:49FromGitter<georgemporter_twitter> if i run without the 'install' at the end it's fine,
21:09:54FromGitter<zetashift> try "./koch nimble" in the main dir
21:09:57FromGitter<georgemporter_twitter> but the install fails with that error above
21:10:00FromGitter<georgemporter_twitter> ok, brb
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21:10:29FromGitter<zetashift> @miran, I give up! I've been at it for a long time ;_;
21:11:07FromGitter<georgemporter_twitter> @zetashift it is running right now
21:11:11FromGitter<georgemporter_twitter> ok that worked
21:11:21FromGitter<georgemporter_twitter> "Hint: operation successful (116075 lines compiled; 34.886 sec total; 326.371MiB peakmem; Release Build) [SuccessX]"
21:11:29FromGitter<zetashift> have fun!
21:11:34FromGitter<georgemporter_twitter> thanks!
21:11:44FromGitter<georgemporter_twitter> yeah that link didn't work for me for some reason
21:12:04FromGitter<zetashift> howistart is explains Nim well, but it has probably outdated info
21:12:21FromGitter<georgemporter_twitter> one of the first links on google for "nim install" :-)
21:12:41FromGitter<georgemporter_twitter> excited to check out the networking support
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21:49:44FromGitter<zetashift> Mhmh I have no idea how to fix that Either we get the official Nim download page higher up or send a fix to howistart.org
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21:57:47dom96they probably take PRs
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22:21:29HMRevolut have just added bitcoin support
22:21:51HMwoop
22:21:51HMwrong room
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22:42:54subsetparkBut you're going back?
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23:20:01dom96subsetpark: yep
23:31:36FromGitter<Varriount> dom96, araq: How would you feel about adding a listing of "how to" pages on the website?
23:32:03dom96go for it
23:33:05FromGitter<Varriount> I keep thinking on that link that @mratsim shared regarding documentation. How-To pages are one of the documentation aspects Nim lacks, and they're easy enough to write.
23:33:40Araqdo it but don't create a wiki page
23:33:59Araqthe wiki is where documentation contributions go to die.
23:33:59Araqfor some reason. lol
23:34:58FromGitter<Varriount> Araq: Which is why I was considering adding it to the documentation section of the site.
23:39:11FromGitter<Varriount> Araq: Stuff dies at the wiki because the wiki has low visibility.
23:39:11FromGitter<zetashift> @Varriount , you mean like: http://nim-cookbook.btbytes.com/ ?
23:39:20FromGitter<Varriount> @zetashift Pretty much. Is that yours?
23:39:40FromGitter<zetashift> no! It was posted in the forums
23:40:06FromGitter<zetashift> https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/3259
23:41:41FromGitter<Varriount> By the way, anyone interested in https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/3402 ?
23:42:07FromGitter<Varriount> I would seriously consider the position, if I didn't already have a job and schoolwork to contend with.
23:46:27FromGitter<zetashift> Not even remotely qualified for that
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