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00:26:26 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> `memfiles` seems like a much grosser api than `streams` when working with files, is there a reason to use memfiles instead of `streams`? |
00:32:25 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> When you want memory mapped files |
00:34:16 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> sad |
00:36:48 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> unrelated question |
00:37:24 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> `--app:console|gui|lib|staticlib` what happens if you make a gui app without specifying `--app:gui` |
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00:41:44 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Think it only matters on windows as it'll open the cmdprompt or equivlent |
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01:02:33 | FromDiscord | <zannzen> so I'm sure this gets asked a lot but: is there a practical example of having an array with a custom index range of negative indicies? or is it just a side effect of allowing custom indicies? |
01:02:41 | FromDiscord | <zannzen> (edit) removed 'just' |
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01:12:58 | FromDiscord | <exelotl> I suppose it could be useful in signal processing or image processing. For example you could blur an image using a 21x21 matrix with indices -10..10, -10..10 |
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01:17:11 | FromDiscord | <zannzen> ah ok thanks, so in areas where you'd normally be subtracting some offset from the index you can bake it into the index value. that makes more sense |
01:19:49 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A2U |
01:20:02 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> (edit) 'https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A2U' => 'https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A2V' |
01:20:16 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> (edit) 'https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A2V' => 'https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A2W' |
01:23:48 | FromDiscord | <exelotl> lol nimsuggest got too painful for me. My computer would grind to a halt every 15 minutes so I just turned off nimsuggest in the vscode plugin |
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01:28:12 | FromDiscord | <flywind> I also disable `nimsuggest`, use `tabnine` plugin and make life better. |
01:32:54 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> will try |
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01:42:31 | FromGitter | <BeboBBM> Hello guys |
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01:44:03 | FromDiscord | <flywind> hello |
01:49:45 | FromGitter | <BeboBBM> If you don't mind my question |
01:50:08 | FromGitter | <BeboBBM> If nim which has a lot of features generate C89 code which is an old version of c and doesn't has the features nim has ⏎ So how nim express this features using C89 code |
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02:00:28 | FromDiscord | <shashlick> it's like assembly not having object oriented capabilities but that doesn't stop C++ |
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02:04:01 | FromDiscord | <Avatarfighter> I'm not exactly sure but this gives a rough idea of how the compiler works https://nim-lang.org/docs/intern.html |
02:04:33 | FromDiscord | <Avatarfighter> BeboBBM: Someone more versed in the compiler will probably answer |
02:05:58 | FromGitter | <BeboBBM> Thanks :) |
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03:13:53 | FromDiscord | <shashlick> @leorize - how do we build csources today? |
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03:27:41 | FromDiscord | <shashlick> looks like the csources directory is not shipped with nightlies anymore |
03:28:53 | Tanger | Hey folks, I have an issue (this is for INim) where I'm including a source file in an "embedded code" source file (see https://github.com/inim-repl/INim/blob/master/src/inimpkg/embedded.nim) |
03:29:20 | Tanger | My problem is that when you download the binary through nimble, it loses that file structure and so it fails to include that file |
03:30:04 | Tanger | I'm wondering if there's a way to statically bundle the file into the nimble binary somehow |
03:34:19 | FromDiscord | <shashlick> is that the only file you want to include? |
03:34:31 | FromDiscord | <shashlick> see installDir, installFiles, installExt in the nimble docs |
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03:47:55 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> htmlgen/compiler bug with `\`div\`` proc? |
03:47:56 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> (edit) 'htmlgen/compiler bug with `\`div\`` proc? ... ' => 'htmlgen/compiler bug with `\`div\`` proc?https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A3q' |
03:48:00 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> (edit) '`\`div\``' => '`div`' |
03:49:01 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> (edit) 'https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A3q' => 'echo div("a")' |
03:49:08 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> (edit) 'echo div("a")' => 'https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A3r' |
03:51:03 | FromDiscord | <flywind> !eval import htmlgen; echo `div`("a", "b") |
03:51:06 | NimBot | <div>ab</div> |
03:51:10 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> How |
03:51:20 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> do i have to use the backticks |
03:51:37 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> i do |
03:51:38 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> what the hell |
03:52:09 | Tanger | shashlick, Thanks for that mate, I wasn't sure how those worked with binary releases, but it looks like (from cursory tests) it works |
03:52:19 | FromDiscord | <Rika> because `div` is an "operator" |
03:52:27 | FromDiscord | <Rika> needs stropping |
03:52:54 | FromDiscord | <flywind> !eval import htmlgen; echo "a" div "b" |
03:52:57 | NimBot | <div>ab</div> |
03:53:02 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> ????? |
03:53:14 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> nim syntax has gone too far this time |
03:53:21 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> first python style indentation, now whatever this is |
03:53:59 | FromDiscord | <Rika> why are you still here then |
03:54:10 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> nim syntax is usually p cool |
03:54:13 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> except now |
03:54:20 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> this is not cool in my opinion |
03:54:24 | FromDiscord | <Rika> okay |
03:54:40 | FromDiscord | <Rika> there is a reason |
03:54:52 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> i sorta understand why |
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03:57:12 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Do you sorta or completely? |
03:58:57 | sealmove | Hey what do you using TOML instead of YAML for nimitai is a good idea? |
03:59:20 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Rewrite please 😄 |
03:59:38 | FromDiscord | <Rika> Got no opinion, I don't like either but shrug* |
04:00:42 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> i understand that its happening because of a name conflict with the division operator `div` |
04:01:06 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> which is defined with the funny backticks so nim doesnt recognize it as an overload |
04:02:46 | sealmove | It's simpler, works at compile-time, and I think capable of describing the same data. |
04:03:49 | FromDiscord | <Rika> If it's easier to make a parser for then sure |
04:04:27 | FromDiscord | <Rika> As an operator, not an overload |
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04:10:26 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> The reason it's required is that `div` is a nim keyword, so there is an overlap |
04:10:35 | sealmove | There is already a working CT parser for TOML. It's dead-simple compared to YAML, and the syntax is equally nice. |
04:12:39 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Here is the full rundown https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A3y |
04:12:56 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> So if there was an html tag that was `if` we'd have an issue here as you can see |
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04:15:22 | FromDiscord | <Rika> sealmove: then i'm up for it if it's not as hellish as yaml parsing is |
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04:21:09 | sealmove | Great, I'll get to it. Nimitai will probably progress finally... |
04:21:35 | sealmove | This breaks compatibility with Kaitai Struct, but at this point I don't care. |
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04:23:16 | sealmove | Since compatibility is broken, other cool stuff can happen, like Nim using expressions instead of some ad-hoc DSL-expressions. |
04:23:29 | sealmove | using Nim expressions* |
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05:00:08 | Tanger | Nimble keeps throwing errors about paths. I've used installDirs to add some folders, but they go into "inimpkg/<files>", rather than the "src/inimpkg/<files>" that nimble appears to be looking for |
05:00:31 | Tanger | I have a scrDir directive that points to the "src" folder in my project root |
05:00:52 | Tanger | And installDirs set to ".", as it seems to add dirs relative to whatever srcDir is |
05:01:51 | Tanger | I don't know why it's still looking for stuff in my "src/*" dir though, especially when it's not explicitly declared anywhere |
05:02:05 | FromDiscord | <acek7> how is everyone |
05:02:39 | sealmove | good, you? |
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05:03:04 | FromDiscord | <acek7> doin pretty alright |
05:31:42 | sealmove | hmm toml won't work, block nesting follows a dot notation instead of some tree-like one |
05:34:38 | sealmove | this looks promising https://github.com/vstakhov/libucl |
05:36:03 | Zevv | I got a type that is defined in one of my source files, but also in an external lib that I happen to use. No I need to qualify each and every use of that type. Is there a way to tell to use _this_ version when ambiguis, unless stated explicitly? |
05:36:49 | sealmove | Hmm I don't think there is |
05:37:23 | Zevv | Hmm. Time to rename my type then :( |
05:37:55 | sealmove | Did you try to enforce full names for your external lib? |
05:38:06 | sealmove | `from x import nil` |
05:38:17 | Zevv | hmm |
05:38:18 | sealmove | then maybe there won't be a conflict, not sure |
05:38:19 | Zevv | not bad, not bad |
05:40:52 | sealmove | Zevv what do you think of UCL as an alternative to YAML for nimitai? |
05:41:50 | Zevv | it don't even know what that is |
05:42:04 | sealmove | pretty much just json sugar: https://github.com/vstakhov/libucl |
05:49:30 | Zevv | yeaah, we need more of these I guess |
05:50:22 | sealmove | crafting an npeg grammar should be a matter of couple hours |
05:50:29 | sealmove | or even minutes |
05:50:37 | Zevv | yeah |
05:50:42 | Zevv | jut pick the json from examples |
05:50:44 | Zevv | and hack it |
05:51:05 | sealmove | it's perfect (*_*) nimitai can finally progress |
05:51:14 | Zevv | ha |
05:51:24 | Zevv | were you really stuck on the yaml? |
05:51:35 | sealmove | yeah, screw yaml, I am done |
05:51:43 | Zevv | hooray for sealmove |
05:51:56 | Zevv | you just made an important step in your career |
05:52:01 | sealmove | haha |
05:52:12 | Zevv | being able to tell crap |
05:52:25 | Zevv | I am so sicking tired of people *not* being able to tell crap |
05:52:38 | Zevv | I am so sick and tired of *all* the discussions I have these days |
05:52:58 | Zevv | trying to tell people they made crap, and how they should shove it out and make things *simple* again |
05:53:56 | Zevv | and after weeks of talking, someone pops up and says: hey guys, I just had this totally bright idea! We can just throw out fluentbit, kafak, elasticsearch, kibana and grafana, and just put it in syslog! |
05:54:19 | sealmove | o.O wut |
05:55:28 | Zevv | yeah, wut |
05:55:50 | Zevv | and that's one case out of many |
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05:56:24 | sealmove | You should write blog pages for these ideas. Will be totally entertaining! |
06:00:09 | Zevv | no man, people will read it |
06:00:16 | Zevv | they still need to pay my bills |
06:00:32 | Zevv | typing on #nim is already risky :) |
06:05:08 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Clearly you just need to shadow author |
06:05:22 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Vvez a totally unique name with no relation |
06:05:37 | Zevv | good enough |
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06:12:26 | Araq | Zevv: import foo except TheType |
06:14:31 | Zevv | aah right |
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06:24:09 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Damn i should've suggested that then |
06:28:18 | Zevv | also one of these things I hate _soo_ much. They make me work with slack. That beast takes 20 seconds to load and render on my i5. |
06:28:21 | Zevv | who wants that |
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06:58:02 | Zevv | Hm stdlib needs a `<=>` for use with sort() |
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07:01:55 | FromDiscord | <Rika> which is that |
07:02:00 | FromDiscord | <Rika> what* 0 iq rn |
07:02:25 | idf | lesser, equal or greater |
07:02:46 | FromDiscord | <Rika> you mean cmp |
07:02:48 | FromDiscord | <Rika> ? |
07:02:58 | idf | i found this |
07:03:00 | idf | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47466358/what-is-the-operator-in-c |
07:03:06 | FromDiscord | <Rika> https://nim-lang.org/docs/system.html#cmp%2CT%2CT ? |
07:03:51 | idf | so yeah cmp i guess |
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07:11:54 | Zevv | yeah but <=> is nicer |
07:12:49 | FromDiscord | <Rika> i dont agree, but you can always make one yourself |
07:13:47 | idf | you can make a template for it |
07:14:21 | Zevv | yeah yeah sure |
07:14:35 | Zevv | but cool stuff should go into the 'coolstuff' module |
07:14:50 | Zevv | and then get imported by system by default |
07:15:34 | FromDiscord | <Rika> feel free to patch your own install and make a pr 🙂 |
07:15:49 | idf | i guess you could PR it into the `sugar` modules |
07:16:00 | Zevv | I will fork nim over this, you hear! |
07:16:11 | supakeen | nivv |
07:16:34 | Zevv | nivv compiles a million lines per second on a commodore 64! |
07:16:38 | FromDiscord | <Rika> vvim xdddd |
07:16:49 | idf | imagine how epic would Nim on C64 would be |
07:17:01 | idf | i said would twice, it would be THAT epic |
07:17:51 | FromDiscord | <Rika> would would would would would would would would |
07:18:07 | idf | Would would Would a woulder woulding wool |
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07:46:00 | Zevv | Well, running nim *on* the c64 doesn't make sense, but I guess if you can find yourself a proper C compiler for the 6502 family you're set to run *nim programs* on the C64 |
07:46:08 | Zevv | we run on the atmel, that is fine as well |
07:49:28 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> is it more efficient to concat a bunch of arrays and turn that into a set or convert all the arrays to sets and add them together |
07:50:23 | FromDiscord | <Rika> the latter |
07:51:34 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> It does depend on if we're talking about bit sets or hash sets i believe |
07:51:47 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> hash sets |
07:53:29 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Then it might be more efficient to do the latter |
07:53:52 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> The real answer is test it |
07:54:20 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> ugh |
07:54:49 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> what if i just made the arrays into a really big csv and use str.find every time i wanted to check if something was included |
07:54:54 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> that would be good i think |
07:55:00 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> Wouldnt be efficient |
07:55:02 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> 1 string allocation faster than 2-3 arrays |
07:55:04 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> 1 < 2 |
07:55:07 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> simple math really |
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07:57:59 | FromDiscord | <Rika> :HyperYuunaBox: |
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08:15:04 | FromDiscord | <shad0w> > Clearly you just need to shadow author↵@Elegant Beef i approve. |
08:15:26 | FromDiscord | <Elegant Beef> we know now that shadow searches for shadow when checking discord 😛 |
08:15:43 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> i want to die :( |
08:15:51 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> go to pengine haven |
08:15:54 | FromDiscord | <shad0w> i've actually never done that |
08:16:09 | FromDiscord | <shad0w> it just happens lol |
08:20:11 | PMunch | Is jester broken on the latest stable? http://ix.io/2A4c |
08:20:31 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> i am 90% sure somethign is bonkers with this asyncClose |
08:21:46 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/763677503025709056/2020-10-08_101926.png |
08:22:27 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> so i get https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/763677674496983070/2020-10-08_102012.png |
08:23:04 | PMunch | Ah, I had a cfg file for something else that must've enabled some weird setting |
08:23:32 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/763677950775132160/2020-10-08_102119.png |
08:23:51 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/763678025408839700/2020-10-08_102140.png |
08:25:02 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> so it goes Why good for both connection, then jumps to WhyYYYY meaning it excapes try: except and crashes serwer |
08:25:55 | supakeen | I'm sorry, but what exceptions does isClosed/.close riase? |
08:26:25 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> non |
08:26:48 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> you see there is no output "failed to close" in console |
08:27:48 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> basicly i have 3 async loops, 1 for connection wit h players 1 for conneciton with matchimakign and 1 for gamelogic |
08:28:52 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> when i close player connection from GameLogickLoop it crashes whole app |
08:30:43 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> see i get "Why good" thats is in process_player_ws callback, but as soo as it except i return whole callback so nothing else should rise exception |
08:31:30 | supakeen | This is hard to tell without line numbers and in screenshots. |
08:38:25 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> why cant i↵```nim↵dir not in blocklistDirs↵``` |
08:38:39 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> notin |
08:38:44 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> without space |
08:39:02 | FromDiscord | <PizzaFox> hmmmm |
08:41:01 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> here if you want to look |
08:41:02 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> http://ix.io/2A4g |
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08:44:41 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> here with error output at bot |
08:44:42 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> http://ix.io/2A4h |
08:44:54 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> i go chill my eye for 5 min it hurts |
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09:46:11 | PMunch | Any particular reason why my fixes to openssl hasn't been merged into stable? |
09:47:52 | Araq | PMunch, link? |
09:48:01 | Araq | and what is "stable"? 1.2 or 1.0? |
09:53:03 | PMunch | It's in neither |
09:53:19 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> Maybe you mean version-1.4 branch? |
09:53:30 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> oh sorry didn't read |
09:53:34 | * | supakeen reads |
09:53:53 | * | idf cant read |
09:54:06 | PMunch | https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/14137 |
09:54:07 | disbot | ➥ Add RSA key reading and encrypt/decrypt to openssl |
09:54:12 | PMunch | https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/14223 |
09:54:13 | disbot | ➥ Add procedures to read RSA keys from BIO format |
09:54:16 | PMunch | I mean they are both merged |
09:54:46 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> But you didn't say backport :P |
09:55:14 | PMunch | http://ix.io/2A4w |
09:55:21 | supakeen | Speaking of, is this a weird functionality that I'd expect it to work that way: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/15483 ? |
09:55:21 | disbot | ➥ asyncftpclient onProgressHandler always start/end. |
09:58:17 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> @PMunch well, you usually tag the PR or commit with [backport] so Miran then backports it |
10:03:23 | PMunch | Well it should still have been in 1.2.6 no? |
10:07:03 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> Why? |
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10:07:48 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> Most commits are only available in new minor versions, not in previous ones |
10:11:53 | PMunch | Well these PRs were made between 1.2.0 and 1.2.2 |
10:12:29 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> Well I just mean that if you want a PR to be backported, you usually mark it as such :) |
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10:12:57 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> and if there are no backport tags, it's not usually backported |
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10:14:22 | narimiran | PMunch: "these PRs were made between 1.2.0 and 1.2.2" -- that's already nim 1.3 period |
10:14:44 | narimiran | once 1.x.0 is released, we're working on 1.x+1.0 |
10:14:59 | PMunch | Ah, so they will be in 1.3, but not in 1.2.x unless I specify backport? |
10:15:28 | narimiran | PMunch: yes, part of the next minor (not patch) stable release. in this case: 1.4.0 |
10:22:14 | PMunch | Ah right, we're skipping the odd ones there as well |
10:31:55 | PMunch | Hmm, I have a folder of files, what's the best way to pick one at random? |
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10:32:54 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> use random.sample on a seq of file names? |
10:42:13 | PMunch | Good idea! |
10:44:29 | PMunch | Hmm, no easy way to list the contents of a folder though.. |
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11:00:27 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> With walkDir it's like 3 lines though |
11:02:37 | PMunch | With execCmdEx it's one line |
11:02:56 | PMunch | `file = execCmdEx("find " & folder & " -type f -name *.priv").output.splitLines[0..^2].sample` |
11:03:15 | PMunch | Ugly as sin, but this is only a small script to create and send some DNS requests |
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11:17:16 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> What does this mean `Error: system module needs: echoBinSafe` |
11:17:58 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> show the command you're using for compilation |
11:18:22 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> nim c -r --hints:off --warnings:off -d:genode dagfs_repl.nim |
11:19:14 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> Seems like genode target doesn't support echo |
11:19:37 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> also you should use --os:genode |
11:21:01 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> Also you should use cpp backend for genode |
11:21:13 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> I hope you're not mistaking nodejs for genode :) |
11:21:21 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> These are two entirely different things |
11:21:28 | idf | genode is cool |
11:22:03 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> it is, and Nim support is there |
11:22:43 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> Have no idea about genode |
11:22:49 | ehmry | not well supported, I need to fix it up |
11:23:42 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> @gogolxdong why did you do -d:genode then? :( |
11:23:44 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> :)* |
11:23:51 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> genode isn't related to nodejs |
11:25:41 | ehmry | gogolxdong: what are you trying to build? |
11:26:32 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> https://github.com/refaqtor/dagfs |
11:30:03 | ehmry | looks like something I wrote a while ago, that was replaced with https://git.sr.ht/~ehmry/blobsets |
11:30:19 | FromDiscord | <hobbledehoy> Is that like IPFS? |
11:30:29 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> yes |
11:31:05 | idf | i guess he just mistook the compiler flags |
11:31:07 | idf | mistook? |
11:31:08 | idf | mistaken? |
11:31:09 | ehmry | i tried to reimplement IPFS but decided I didn't like it so I did something simpler |
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11:32:06 | ehmry | idf: running geminim on genode is on my TODO list |
11:32:17 | idf | niceee |
11:32:20 | idf | let me know how it goes |
11:32:44 | idf | really curious |
11:33:43 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> @ehmry, reimplement IPFS in Nim? Why you don't like IPFS, just curious. |
11:34:38 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> @ehmry what do you think of genode as an OS (framework) for a workstation? Are there any genode-based desktop oriented OSes? |
11:34:48 | ehmry | gogolxdong: i thought that is was too-extensible and overengineered |
11:35:46 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> I'm working on something like IPFS as well, maybe we can do it together. |
11:36:10 | ehmry | Yardanico: there is sculpt which I used for about a year, but I don't like the way things are configured |
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11:37:19 | ehmry | gogolxdong: I've stopped doing FS stuff, I'd like to get back to it, but not for a while. but if you have any questions about this old code please ask |
11:37:39 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> blobsets lookes like dagfs :) |
11:37:54 | idf | i was thinking of learning about doing FS stuff |
11:38:03 | ehmry | yea, was the next iteration, with a flat layout |
11:39:00 | ehmry | genode is constant yak-shaving, right now I'm working on a dhall-interpeter in nim, so I can generate genode configurations on-target with a high-level language |
11:39:49 | ehmry | when I finish that I can test the nim/genode toolchain again |
11:43:31 | Araq | why not use Nim macros to generate these configurations? |
11:43:42 | FromDiscord | <jseb> ok… in the category WTF we have the Ale plugin (linter for vim) which stops all activities when there is a .nims associated to the source currently edited |
11:45:44 | ehmry | Araq: I don't mean generate toolchain configurations, but I will probably use some nimscript with dhall |
11:52:37 | Araq | no idea why you would use dhall, it's like JSON, but even worse |
11:55:38 | ehmry | I like dhall because you have to implicitly write schemas as types, which I think is scaleable because types can compose, or something like that |
11:56:05 | ehmry | the dhall has to conveted to something like JSON, I wouldn't want to embed the interpreter into everything |
11:56:58 | Araq | let Prelude = |
11:56:58 | Araq | https://prelude.dhall-lang.org/v11.1.0/package.dhall great so the config subsystem must be able to perform downloads |
11:58:19 | supakeen | Not specifically the worst, UCL allows this as well but with signing and it's kind-of nice there. |
11:58:28 | supakeen | (removes a lot of need for configuration management systems ...) |
11:59:17 | ehmry | yea, which is why you wouldn't want it embedded. I don't like the downloads, but everything can be frozen and cached offline if the imports have hash checks |
12:00:48 | ehmry | content addressed imports seems like a hack to avoid making another package manager |
12:01:01 | supakeen | I'd like it more if we could do (in UCL) a `section or { url }` where if the URL can't be found/validated the section gets used but hey. |
12:01:13 | supakeen | Perhaps the world is ready for yet another configuration language ;) |
12:01:20 | Araq | the type system is nice but under-specified. is 'Integer' 32 bits? |
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12:03:30 | ehmry | Araq: its arbitrary, so bignum |
12:04:57 | Araq | ok |
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12:05:12 | ehmry | there is no comparision of strings or conversion from strings to numbers, which is strange |
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12:05:48 | Araq | there are also apparently no binary strings |
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12:06:29 | ehmry | yes, and there are rules on strings like no non-printing runes |
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12:06:58 | Araq | using Unicode ≡ but then also || and && is a strange choice, but that's nitpicking |
12:07:17 | Araq | ah I am misreading |
12:07:22 | Araq | they use == |
12:08:30 | ehmry | no, ≡ is equivalent to === but not == |
12:08:48 | ehmry | code can be in unicode, ascii, or binary form (CBOR) |
12:09:09 | ehmry | the binrary form is used for the semantic hashes and caching |
12:11:47 | Araq | it's a decent design, I give it a B. I still mind the Turing incompleteness. |
12:12:49 | Araq | "Here is a proof that is always terminates" - "Here is the Ackermann function in dhall. It terminates in one billion years." - "la la la, I'm not listening" |
12:13:49 | ehmry | yea, its hard to write code that accidentally takes a billion years to solve but easy to import |
12:13:57 | Araq | just add an instruction count limit to the VM, bam, done. You need it *anyway*... |
12:16:23 | Araq | the much better design is to not support functions at all. Like JSON does it... But then that's not covered by a cargo-cult CS term, so we get "a total programming language" instead. |
12:21:00 | ehmry | I think functions are necessary but some people will try to do to much with the language |
12:26:29 | ehmry | I need to finish the type checker and put some porcelain on top and this thing is done |
12:27:48 | Araq | the following configuration formats get by without functions: YAML, JSON, ini files, the Windows registry, the Gnome registry. |
12:29:48 | Araq | in fact, before dhall it kinda was the defining aspect of a "configuration" language. :-) |
12:31:03 | supakeen | toml! |
12:31:14 | idf | csv |
12:31:19 | supakeen | xml! |
12:31:32 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> toml |
12:31:41 | Araq | ^ yes. Thank you. |
12:32:46 | supakeen | If that's a configuration language then my next project will use LD_PRELOAD for configuration. |
12:33:48 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> why am i now getting this |
12:33:49 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> expression 'hangup(p.conn)' has no type (or is ambiguous) |
12:33:55 | idf | i dont know much about dhall but I would rather have a configuration langauge that is either turing complete or not at all |
12:33:59 | supakeen | Henceforth my programs shall not just have `--config` arguments but also `--config-binary` which can output the config. |
12:34:09 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> Show the whole line @kodkuce |
12:34:12 | supakeen | That way people can write their configuration binary in any language they like :) |
12:34:14 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> how can it have no type when i defind p : WebSocket |
12:34:30 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> /home/me/Documents/Projects/grammergame/src/minimal.nim(44, 28) Error: expression 'hangup(p.conn)' has no type (or is ambiguous) |
12:34:40 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> i mean whole source code line |
12:34:49 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> You're probably trying to discard void |
12:34:51 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/763741190931218432/2020-10-08_143243.png |
12:35:07 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> hangup returns nothing |
12:35:10 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> You can't await it |
12:35:10 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> oh |
12:35:11 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> ye |
12:35:12 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> sorry |
12:35:14 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> :) |
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12:47:35 | idf | why stop at binary configuration files? make your executable require a .so or .dll with your configuration |
12:47:59 | supakeen | :) |
12:50:46 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> that's what he meant |
12:50:52 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> At least I understood it this way |
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13:01:23 | PMunch | I had a pretty interesting discussion about this with alehander back when I was working on using NimScript for configurations |
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13:16:16 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> yo |
13:16:17 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> yo |
13:16:18 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> yooo |
13:17:56 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> http://ix.io/2A5U |
13:18:17 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> so this when i run on desktop work no poblem |
13:18:59 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> but when i run it on raspbery pi 4 behind nginx SSL i get |
13:19:12 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> Exception message: File descriptor not registered.↵Exception type: [ValueError] |
13:19:28 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> ofc you need to make connection to test |
13:19:34 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> https://www.websocket.org/echo.html |
13:19:37 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> i used this |
13:19:56 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> so basicly code work just goes bonkers on nginx rpi4 ssl |
13:20:09 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> so anyway to narrow this down |
13:20:25 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> http://ix.io/2A5V |
13:20:38 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> here same with no nuberd lines |
13:20:49 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> so i am not tarderd something else is tarding me |
13:28:13 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> anyone else running an rpi4? |
13:29:28 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> dont think i am missing any lib it would compain and it runs, guess that file discriptior thingy has something to do with io but duno what |
13:37:43 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> ofc am talking about when connection closes, my issue that i am dealing last 2 days |
13:37:48 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> will post on forum too |
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13:44:31 | PMunch | Huh, seems like readFile can overflow the amount of open files |
13:44:38 | PMunch | Possibly when it fails too often |
13:50:03 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> this heppends evry thime on rpi4 |
13:50:08 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> 10 of 10 runs i thikn |
13:51:55 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> just tryed 3 times in a row it heppends evry time |
13:55:21 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> hmm will open port directly to app running to see if ngixn is making some issue tough dont think if it should be any |
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13:59:24 | Oddmonger | huuumm… if i have a variable in a switch(…) of a nims, nimsuggest stops working |
13:59:50 | Oddmonger | that is: switch( "hints", want_hints) #die |
14:00:05 | Oddmonger | switch( "hints", "off") #works |
14:00:47 | Oddmonger | so it breaks alaviss :( |
14:01:25 | Oddmonger | well… Makefile is not so bad after all |
14:01:42 | Yardanico | meh |
14:02:48 | idf | nake |
14:02:59 | Yardanico | nimlsp with vscode-nim-lsp extensions works ok for me |
14:03:01 | Yardanico | even with a nims file |
14:03:07 | Yardanico | and nimlsp uses nimsuggest |
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14:05:56 | Oddmonger | yes i use nimlsp |
14:06:49 | Oddmonger | but it seems nimsuggest doesn't like nims whose tasks need variables |
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14:12:22 | Yardanico | idk, doesn't crash for me on latest develk |
14:13:27 | Oddmonger | nimble install nimsuggest ? |
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14:14:05 | Yardanico | nimsuggest is a part of nim installation |
14:14:55 | Oddmonger | ah ? so not that ? http://ix.io/2A66 |
14:16:03 | Oddmonger | nim -v says 1.2.6 because stable, so i should install something else ? |
14:16:31 | Yardanico | seems like excercism is doing some of their tooling in nim |
14:16:34 | Yardanico | https://github.com/exercism/tooling-webserver |
14:16:36 | Yardanico | https://github.com/exercism/canonical-data-syncer |
14:17:51 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> OK so when i run this not behind nginx it does not crash, so its ssl issue or nginx issue, tough still dont get why one relates to other code crash |
14:18:22 | Yardanico | https://github.com/exercism?language=nim |
14:18:35 | Yardanico | Oddmonger: I don't think it'll help you |
14:19:02 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> i like exercism |
14:19:32 | Oddmonger | Yardanico: ah i was about to install 1.3.5 |
14:19:40 | Yardanico | I mean you can try |
14:19:49 | Yardanico | but nimlsp uses nimsuggest not as a binary |
14:19:55 | Yardanico | but as a nim module |
14:20:45 | Oddmonger | well i can try , when in doubt… |
14:30:55 | Oddmonger | ok no change |
14:31:07 | Oddmonger | let's go home with make |
14:31:41 | Yardanico | you don't have to use a config.nims |
14:31:56 | Yardanico | you can just use nims as standalone |
14:32:00 | Yardanico | and then "nim e myfile.nims" |
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14:36:20 | Oddmonger | ah with the source file as paramter in setCommand |
14:36:36 | Oddmonger | thank you for the suggestion |
14:36:46 | FromDiscord | <hugogranstrom> I'm getting different numerical results in NumericalNim with the 1.4RC than in 1.2.6 (error is 1e-13 instead of 1e-15). Is there anything that has changed in how floats are handled? Specifically float literals? |
14:41:15 | Yardanico | i don't recall anything like that, and didn't find anything like that in the changelog at least :P |
14:41:34 | Yardanico | maybe you could provide a self-contained snippet showing that difference? |
14:42:28 | FromDiscord | <hugogranstrom> I'll give it a try 🙂 |
14:48:19 | FromDiscord | <hugogranstrom> Here is a "simple" example: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A6g |
14:48:54 | Yardanico | the result is the same though? |
14:48:59 | FromDiscord | <hugogranstrom> It echos `-1.110223024625157e-15` on 1.2.6 and `-2.220446049250313e-16` on devel |
14:49:08 | Yardanico | on my pc (latest devel) and on playground for 1.2.6 |
14:49:17 | Yardanico | both -1.110223024625157e-15 |
14:49:30 | FromDiscord | <hugogranstrom> Strange :/ |
14:49:40 | FromDiscord | <hugogranstrom> I updated devel yesterday |
14:49:40 | Yardanico | maybe architecture difference? or different cpus or something? |
14:49:44 | Yardanico | or maybe you hit a CPU bug? :D |
14:50:13 | FromDiscord | <hugogranstrom> Perhaps, but use the same cpu for both 😛 |
14:50:20 | FromDiscord | <hugogranstrom> *but I use |
14:50:40 | FromDiscord | <hugogranstrom> It's only the Nim version that's different |
14:51:22 | Yardanico | well, it's really strange, I get the normal value on my pc as I said |
14:53:57 | FromDiscord | <hugogranstrom> Ok, thanks 🙂 I'll try and see if I can find something |
14:54:04 | FromDiscord | <shashlick> @Yardanico - how did you reproduce that nimsuggest bug yesterday |
14:54:12 | Yardanico | which one exactly? |
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15:42:16 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> Is there a way to write a compile time map? |
15:42:42 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> what do you mean exactly? a table? |
15:42:49 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> do you want to use it later at runtime but generate at compile time? |
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15:43:38 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> so anywya know why this file discript error heppends when i close if i use nginx to proxy pass to it? |
15:44:34 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/6903 |
15:44:54 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> hmm to switch to HA proxy, or am i missing soemthing |
15:44:59 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> I want to document at compile time about 150 keyboard keys and their corresponding keycodes and then use that information at runtime to check if certain keys are pressed |
15:45:55 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> yeah it's entirely possible |
15:46:53 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> What would be the best way to do that? I'm new to nim so I don't know my way around yet. Ideally I think it would be a mapping between an enum and the keycode |
15:47:23 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> I know a pure enum could probably be used but I'm also wondering about if it just so happened that I wasn't mapping to an int |
15:47:44 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> well, I still didn't understand a bit - what exactly do you mean by "keys and their keycodes"? |
15:47:47 | FromDiscord | <shashlick> @Yardanico - https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/12684 |
15:47:49 | disbot | ➥ nimsuggest crash with import after encountering undeclared type ; snippet at 12https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A6I |
15:48:15 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> @shashlick I mean the same way as in the issue |
15:48:32 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> @For Your Health do you mean like "K key": VK_K (windows keycode) or something |
15:48:47 | FromDiscord | <shashlick> i tried yesterday, nothing happened |
15:49:11 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> it won't work if you don't have pkg/compiler/nimeval |
15:49:12 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> So for instance, they keyboard key A has a keycode of 65. I would like to be able to do something like: keyIsPressed(KeyboardKey::A) or something like that |
15:49:30 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> (edit) 'they' => 'the' |
15:49:32 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> you can assign enum members to specific int values |
15:49:40 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> you don't even need a map in this case 🙂 |
15:49:44 | FromDiscord | <shashlick> i don't |
15:50:04 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> @shashlick try↵var x: Undeclared↵import compiler/nimeval |
15:50:41 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A6J |
15:51:11 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> Out of curiosity, how would it be done with a map? |
15:51:21 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> in nim maps are tables |
15:51:24 | FromDiscord | <shashlick> still worked fine - doesn't crash |
15:51:29 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> with nimsuggest? |
15:51:32 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> nimsuggest file.nim |
15:51:33 | FromDiscord | <shashlick> ya |
15:51:34 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> chk file.nim |
15:52:07 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> @For Your Health well, you can do it with a table where keys are enum members and values are ints |
15:52:12 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> or where keys are strings and values are ints |
15:52:20 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> but the solution with the enum is the cleanest for this usecase imo |
15:52:47 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A6K |
15:52:56 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> so here it'll print 67 since C is 65 + 2 |
15:53:02 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> Yeah the enum solution is decent, the only annoying thing is that the keyboard keycodes jump around sometimes |
15:53:09 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> They aren't always in +1 order |
15:53:31 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> So if I want to construct an array of all of the keyboard press states, there are going to be gaps in it |
15:53:42 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> well enums with holes in nim are allowed but some operations on them can't be done |
15:53:45 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> but they'll work for your use case |
15:55:01 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> The way I would do it in a different language is to have an enum with all of the key variants, and then have a function that takes a variant of that enum and spits out an int |
15:55:11 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> The only problem with that is that I end up having to write all of the keynames down twice |
15:55:32 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> Which is annoying when there are 150 ish of them |
15:55:34 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> well, you can do the same in nim, but enum values can be converted to int directly as you've seen |
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15:56:03 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> it would probably be even better if you define your keyIsPressed as proc keyIsPressed(key: KeyboardKeys) |
15:56:11 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> and convert enum member to an int inside of that proc |
15:56:24 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> so you don't have to write "KeyboardKey.C.int" each time you call keyIsPressed |
15:56:54 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> Yeah that is the ideal solution, a proc that you pass a keyboard key enum variant to to check if it is pressed |
15:57:31 | FromDiscord | <lqdev> keycodes are a well-defined standard |
15:57:35 | FromDiscord | <lqdev> scancodes, however, are not |
15:58:07 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> I am specifically working with the windows API only so for my case the values are defined |
15:58:20 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> can't you just use winim? |
15:58:48 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> https://github.com/khchen/winim/ https://github.com/khchen/winim/blob/d300192c588f73dddef26e3c317f148aa23465c3/winim/inc/winuser.nim#L1223 |
15:59:30 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> I will look into that. I'm new to nim so I barely know any libraries and things at the moment |
16:00:40 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> So say I had to do a compile time map between some enum variant and something that wasn't conveniently an int. What would I do then? |
16:00:47 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> Just out of curiosity |
16:02:23 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> (edit) 'variant' => 'variants' |
16:03:37 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> @For Your Health enums can also map to strings |
16:03:43 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> but for other types you can just use tables module |
16:04:12 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> or an array |
16:04:15 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> or a proc |
16:04:25 | FromDiscord | <For Your Health> Alright I will look into it. I think at some point I need to map between an enum variant and a custom object |
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17:06:44 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> @dom96 i see you https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/12526 head this similar issue bad file discriptor |
17:06:46 | disbot | ➥ asynchttpserver "Bad file descriptor" crashes ; snippet at 12https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=27vG |
17:07:14 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> hmm do you maybe know why would this heppend to me only when i use Nginx proxy_pass |
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17:23:42 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> why good why |
17:26:48 | FromGitter | <brentp> how does one create a TableRef from a Table? |
17:40:25 | FromGitter | <brentp> found answer here: https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/322 |
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17:42:49 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> "File descriptor not registered." "File descriptor not registered." "File descriptor not registered." "File descriptor not registered." "File descriptor not registered." |
17:42:57 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> "File descriptor not registered." "File descriptor not registered." "File descriptor not registered." "File descriptor not registered." "File descriptor not registered." |
17:43:24 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> Can somone explain me what Nginx has to do with "File descriptor not registered." in app? |
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17:47:55 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> from what i get "File descriptor not registered." means that on close() its trying to close an FD that does not exist ? doesnt ngxin just pass connection i am not trying to close Nginx FD right? |
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18:24:14 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> doom |
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19:04:39 | leorize | @kodkuce it means that the file descriptor is not registered in Nim's dispatcher |
19:04:51 | leorize | note that nginx does not pass the connection fd over |
19:05:12 | leorize | it insteads relays |
19:05:41 | leorize | most of the time you get "not registered" when the fd is unregistered twice |
19:10:57 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> i tought ngix makes his fd that recives data and send to my backend app >> then my backend app has FD that recives that data and sends to ngix that sends to clinet |
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19:12:05 | leorize | well did you adopt the fd anywhere in your app? |
19:12:33 | leorize | if you don't have any code that explicitly grab an fd somewhere and use it, then you're not using any fd from nginx |
19:12:47 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> hmm did you saw my forum post i am running ws example |
19:13:08 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> i am guessing treefrom/ws lib is opening it |
19:13:16 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> asynchttpserwer |
19:13:34 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/6903 |
19:14:11 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> here so when i run this app with no ngix infort it works normal it closes connection but it does not crash |
19:15:07 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> but when i run Nginx infront with proxy_pass to my app, it crashes with this :File descriptor not registered. |
19:15:11 | leorize | nah, nginx is not passing any fd to you |
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19:15:45 | leorize | as a reverse proxy, nginx basically made the connection to your app then relay informations it receives over |
19:15:55 | leorize | no fd passing magic here |
19:16:04 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> then why it crashes |
19:16:20 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> how to fix it, and why its giving that error |
19:18:46 | leorize | can you link the ws library you're using? |
19:18:54 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> treefrom/ws |
19:19:12 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> https://github.com/treeform/ws |
19:22:44 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> it heppends even on hangup() |
19:27:03 | leorize[m]1 | all server examples seem to not close the socket |
19:27:06 | leorize[m]1 | ping @treeform |
19:27:14 | leorize[m]1 | my guess is that asynchttpserver manages that fd |
19:27:46 | leorize[m]1 | and by closing the socket earlier, it errors out when asynchttpserver close the socket itself |
19:28:43 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> https://nim-lang.org/docs/asyncnet.html#AsyncSocket |
19:29:05 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> tcpSocket -> AysncSocket -> close() |
19:29:35 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> there is this AsyncDF |
19:29:39 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> *FD |
19:31:44 | FromDiscord | <kodkuce> @treeform should i ping you :) , hope you wont kill me for harassing you all time |
19:32:27 | FromDiscord | <Rika> Inb4 they file a restraining order |
19:35:21 | Yardanico | time to add more nim examples to godbolt and possibly update their nim version to 1.2.6 |
19:35:29 | Yardanico | just felt like I should improve nim on godbolt lol |
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19:41:30 | narimiran | Yardanico: why to 1.2.6 if you can wait a bit and do the update to 1.4.0? |
19:41:44 | Yardanico | well right now I just want to add a few simple examples they seem to have for other languages |
19:41:53 | Yardanico | also add --debugger:native to nim options by default |
19:42:02 | Yardanico | so you can actually see what source line corresponds to what assembly line |
19:42:16 | Yardanico | I did the first PR about fixing the simplest square example |
19:42:33 | Yardanico | it doesn't use exportc and it's not called so it just doesn't appear in the assembly |
19:42:45 | Yardanico | and godbolt examples seems to favour exporting it, so I just did exportc |
19:42:50 | Yardanico | zig does the same |
19:47:53 | Yardanico | also I'm not sure if I should use seq or an openArray for the "sum over array" example |
19:48:11 | Yardanico | because if I want to do real nim arrays, then the code is generic so even with exportc nothing will be generated :P |
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19:48:38 | Yardanico | I guess a seq will be enough for now |
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19:57:34 | Yardanico | https://i.imgur.com/20vvuoj.png looks good enough |
19:58:11 | Yardanico | one of the examples which a lot of the languages there have - replacing smaller elements in the first "array" from the second by the index |
19:58:15 | Yardanico | in-place in most of the implementations |
20:00:11 | Yardanico | also, maybe we should add some kind of -d: for --passC:"-march=native" ? |
20:05:32 | Yardanico | also curious (but kinda expected) thing from that example above - if I use "for i, elem in mpairs(x):" the assembly is 100% the same for "-d:danger" |
20:05:41 | Yardanico | but guess I'll keep the "simpler" version |
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20:15:56 | Yardanico | so I don't know if I should use seq or openArray - both work with exportc, but openArray version makes more assembly :P |
20:16:55 | FromDiscord | <Recruit_main707> Make both :p |
20:17:32 | Zevv | request for data structure advice. I have a huge number of things that have a start and end float64 time (which can be the same). I need to look up very often and fast if there are any of these things in a given range (t1..t2). Bonus if I know how many there are |
20:18:31 | Zevv | oh dang am I stupid |
20:19:44 | Zevv | nevermind :) |
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20:28:03 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> I'm having some problems with using HashSets as a field of an object (I'm not very experienced with Nim's objects) |
20:29:05 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> in my reddit post offline-saving app I need to use a HashSet as an object field, and then I need to modify that set from a proc |
20:29:56 | Yardanico | okay, how is your object defined? |
20:29:58 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> but for some reason I just can't modify that set from inside a proc |
20:30:19 | Yardanico | if you define your object as "myobj = object" then you need to have it as argument "var Object" |
20:30:22 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/2A8k |
20:30:50 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> that is probably it |
20:30:58 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> wait a sec |
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20:31:24 | Yardanico | yeah in your case you need to add "var" to "test: var Test" in modifyTest |
20:31:31 | Yardanico | or make your Test a ref object |
20:31:34 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> so I need to put it as proc a(var RedditPost)? |
20:31:39 | Yardanico | "test: var Test" |
20:31:47 | Yardanico | "post: var RedditPost" |
20:31:53 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> now I have it as proc a(redditPost: RedditPost) |
20:31:58 | Yardanico | also if your object is ~more than 3-4 fields, it might be better to use "ref object" |
20:32:04 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> and a is the proc that needs to modify it |
20:32:08 | Yardanico | proc a(redditPost: var RedditPost) |
20:32:25 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> oh yeah I tried RedditPost var before |
20:32:34 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> cause ints and others have it after |
20:32:37 | Yardanico | also your object itself has to be declared with "var" |
20:32:48 | Yardanico | not let |
20:32:52 | Yardanico | so it can be modified |
20:33:00 | Yardanico | or, as I said, you can use ref object :P |
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20:35:31 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> hmm its now erroring with type var var is not allowed |
20:35:52 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> wait I can give some generic code that does the exact same thing as my app (without being so long) |
20:36:14 | Yardanico | proc a(redditPost: var RedditPost) |
20:36:19 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A8n |
20:36:19 | Yardanico | var myRedditPost = RedditPost() |
20:36:39 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> soo this inim test does the exact same thing as my actual code |
20:37:19 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> in my real app initTest is called parsePostObj and it parses a reddit post into an obj |
20:37:51 | Yardanico | as I said |
20:37:57 | Yardanico | modifyTest should be |
20:38:00 | Yardanico | proc modifyTest(test: var Test) = |
20:38:12 | Yardanico | also how many fields does your RedditPost have? |
20:38:17 | Yardanico | I mean object fields |
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20:39:21 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> quite many |
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20:39:30 | Yardanico | then it might be easier for you to just use "ref object" really |
20:39:31 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> like 4 or 5 |
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20:39:59 | Yardanico | ah that's not a lot, but anyway with "ref object", if you mutate your object a lot, you wouldn't need to add "var" to arguments in procs |
20:39:59 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> yeah I'll try that next |
20:40:11 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> oh yeah that is nice |
20:40:13 | Yardanico | but with "ref object" you're adding a bit of overhead because it's a reference |
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20:40:47 | Yardanico | I mean it's negligible for 99.9% of cases, it only matters if you really want to squeeze out every last bit of performance :) |
20:42:04 | FromDiscord | <haxscramper> Nim example on view types should fail or compile? The one with `main(@[11, 22, 33])` from https://nim-lang.github.io/Nim/manual_experimental.html#view-types |
20:42:29 | FromDiscord | <haxscramper> `Error: 'y' borrows from location 'x' which does not live long enough` |
20:44:59 | Yardanico | I think that view types are still pretty much WIP |
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20:52:12 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> hmm maybe I will post the relevant parts of my actual code because I was actually able to do my small inim test without errors |
20:52:23 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> but I wasn't able to fix my actual code |
20:53:09 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> sorry that I only ask for help here when I'm tired and want to get something implemented fast 😄 |
20:54:33 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A8q |
20:55:09 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A8r |
20:55:44 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> you can probably ignore the parsePostToObj proc (also I left the imports out) |
20:56:08 | Yardanico | getMediaProviderLinks should have "var RedditPost" if you keep it an "object" |
20:56:12 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> (edit) 'https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A8r' => 'https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A8s' |
20:56:28 | Yardanico | "var" signifies mutability |
20:56:35 | Yardanico | "I want a mutable version of that argument" |
20:58:28 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> yeah I know about var, let and const, and I tried putting var only in the declaration of this object and the getMediaProviderLinks proc |
20:58:53 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> I also tried putting it basically everywhere the object is declared |
20:58:58 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> (edit) 'declared' => 'mentioned' |
20:59:08 | Yardanico | so what's the problem? |
20:59:17 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> /data/roni/Nextcloud/Programming/Nim/TerminalApps/RedditOffline/src/postDownloader.nim(31, 40) Error: type mismatch: got <HashSet[system.string], string>↵but expected one of: |
20:59:25 | Yardanico | paste the full error please :) |
20:59:27 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> this is the exact error |
20:59:29 | Yardanico | no |
20:59:35 | Yardanico | full error, inim doesn't show full error |
20:59:51 | Yardanico | you know, errors from the compiler can have multiple lines |
20:59:57 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> yeah uploading full now to somewhere |
21:00:06 | Yardanico | you can just paste it here |
21:00:10 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> also its from nim compiler this time wait |
21:00:12 | Yardanico | the bridge will handle it okay |
21:00:16 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> no its over discord limit |
21:00:21 | Yardanico | ah |
21:00:55 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/763868549860032582/log.txt |
21:01:16 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> idk if that goes over to irc |
21:01:43 | Yardanico | your error is much simpler |
21:01:52 | Yardanico | you shouldn't think that it's really complex |
21:02:00 | Yardanico | the compiler says to you that there's no "add" proc for a hashset |
21:02:02 | Yardanico | there's "incl" |
21:02:03 | Yardanico | not "add" |
21:02:07 | Yardanico | https://nim-lang.org/docs/sets.html |
21:02:48 | Yardanico | it basically shows you all possible "add" procs available in the place where you call it, and says that neither of them accepts hashset as the first argument |
21:02:55 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> yeah, sorry I used incl before and I'm now getting closer to fixing it |
21:03:09 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> its just that I went between seq and HashSet to see if that would help |
21:03:18 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> thats why its add... |
21:04:14 | FromDiscord | <treeform> @kodkuce I started seen this error too, I think its some thing new with the async stuff. I just ignore it. |
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21:05:44 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2A8A |
21:06:06 | Yardanico | you're trying to run incl for a RedditPost |
21:06:18 | Yardanico | but incl needs a hashset :) |
21:06:27 | Yardanico | so it's redditPost.yourHashSetField.incl |
21:06:36 | Yardanico | or incl(redditPost.yourHashSetField, ...) |
21:06:50 | Yardanico | whatever you like the most |
21:08:02 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> yeah fixed it, always forget to edit some part |
21:08:14 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> I think I'm going to get this whole thing fixed very soon |
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21:16:20 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> okay, got it fixed now |
21:16:47 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> its obvious now that I only needed to have my redditPost obj as var in the proc arguments |
21:17:33 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> I was just not thinking clearly and started spamming var everywhere, even when its not needed |
21:18:32 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> I only need to modify this redditPost object first when parsing the post, and then finding media links from its text part |
21:19:14 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> I will probably post this thing on gitlab, when its finished |
21:19:56 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> its going to be a reddit post offline saver, that also doubles as a terminal viewer for the saved reddit posts |
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21:20:45 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> it also saves all the media in a reddit post locally, and gives easy access to it in the terminal viewer |
21:22:58 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> this discord is always so helpful 👍 |
21:23:01 | FromDiscord | <Cloudperry> bye |
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21:41:13 | FromDiscord | <Avatarfighter> Cloudperry are you making a reddit library ? |
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