<< 09-02-2023 >>
00:00:46FromDiscord<Yepoleb> 😢
00:01:04FromDiscord<Yepoleb> do you still need help?
00:01:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nope
00:01:30FromDiscord<Yepoleb> did you find an expert?
00:01:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> A contributor is providing insight, just trying to read the C to understand the shit
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00:04:06FromDiscord<Yepoleb> do you know assembly?
00:04:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nope
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00:22:59FromDiscord<eyes> urgh
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00:23:10FromDiscord<eyes> got a package specific question
00:23:19FromDiscord<eyes> nim-markdown, https://github.com/soasme/nim-markdown
00:23:52FromDiscord<eyes> when it parses the markdown you get objects of ``Token`` type, and tokens have children which can be found in a double link list
00:24:04FromDiscord<eyes> and each of these tokens represent different things
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00:24:48FromDiscord<eyes> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4nvF
00:25:18FromDiscord<eyes> So i want to be able to check if these objects are documents or blocks etc... but they are already being treated as tokens since im getting them out of the ``DoublyLinkedList[Token]``
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00:26:18FromDiscord<eyes> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4nvG
00:26:19FromDiscord<eyes> thats my current code
00:26:28FromDiscord<eyes> i think im probably just misusing the library but idk
00:28:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `Token of Ul`
00:28:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> whoops `token of Ul`
00:28:26FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `typeof` is compile time so it sees `Token is Ul` which is false
00:28:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `of` uses runtime type information
00:30:37FromDiscord<eyes> oh interesting
00:31:41FromDiscord<eyes> nice yeah it works
00:32:07FromDiscord<eyes> thank you very much
00:32:56FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4nvK
00:33:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Whether either is cleaner is between you and your god
00:34:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Idiomatic Nim avoids `return` really
00:41:26FromDiscord<eyes> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Idiomatic Nim avoids `return`": sigh i know but this is one of my least favorite things about the language
00:42:00FromDiscord<eyes> i want to resist it
00:42:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Eh it's so much nicer than accidently forgetting a block of code should return a value and it not error
00:42:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> if you do not use an expression and forget a `return` the compiler doesnt know anything is wrong
00:42:56FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Unconstrained flow control is not great
00:44:29FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4nvM
00:44:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The compiler doesnt complain and eats this up
00:45:25FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Your view may vary
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00:47:31FromDiscord<eyes> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/FoX
00:48:12FromDiscord<eyes> i guess youre right
00:48:19FromDiscord<eyes> its dumb but i think i will continue to use return
00:48:20FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Sure we could have a \`not all code paths return'
00:48:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> But given the entire language is based around expressions
00:48:25FromDiscord<eyes> it is worth it to me
00:54:24FromDiscord<leorize> nim could use some mandatory result initialization
00:54:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> strictdefs in 2.0
00:55:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://nim-lang.github.io/Nim/manual_experimental.html#strict-definitions-and-nimout-parameters but dont think it applies to result
01:00:02FromDiscord<leorize> nice feature
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06:42:59Amun-Ramorning all (as in standard greeting time) ;>
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08:08:36FromDiscord<rakgew> oh wow TIL `dumpAstGen` - that was really useful! (-\:
08:11:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> eh genast/quote are right there 😄
08:13:50FromDiscord<rakgew> more treasures? qoute I know, but genast I will look at next.
08:14:25FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You generally want to avoid using `astGenRepr` and friends
08:14:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's best to use quote/genast
08:16:37FromDiscord<rakgew> what is bad about astGenRepr?
08:16:52FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You make the macro really difficult to read/write
08:16:52FromDiscord<rakgew> other, than maybe being verbose?
08:17:01FromDiscord<rakgew> I see.
08:17:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> They do the same as what you get out of `quote do` or `genast` but you have to copy it
08:20:53FromDiscord<Arathanis> are there docs for quote do?
08:21:13FromDiscord<Arathanis> (edit) "quote do?" => "`quote do`?"
08:21:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://nim-lang.org/docs/macros.html#quote%2Ctyped%2Cstring
08:26:00FromDiscord<Arathanis> thank you
08:26:22FromDiscord<rakgew> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4nwR
08:26:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `static openarray[string]`
08:26:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> or `static seq[string]`
08:27:41FromDiscord<rakgew> casting it inside the macro or when passing in?
08:28:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> As a parameter
08:29:16FromDiscord<rakgew> I see, thank you so much!
08:35:42FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> Hey beef
08:35:56FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> do you have any idea about this 😕↵https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/19271#issuecomment-1408826734
08:40:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Cause it's an endlessly recursive type alias
08:40:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/4nwW
08:41:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There is no recursion in the second since it's just a single type and no alias
08:41:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> MyFunc -\> w\: Wrap -\> Wrap
08:41:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There is no more resolving required
08:42:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Remember unless you use `distinct`, `object`, or `enum` there is no type being created
08:42:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's just an alias
08:43:07FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> thanks!
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10:14:32om3gaHow to use sort, for example if I have var referenceTable = newOrderedTable[uint32, SomeObject]()?
10:15:31om3gareferenceTable.sort(cmp[uint32]) not works, type mismatch: got <OrderedTableRef[system.uint32, SomeObject], proc (x: uint32, y: uint32): int{.noSideEffect, gcsafe, locks: 0.}>
10:16:31om3gaI tried to use iterator values, keys. nothing works, also I don't get that manual desc to fix that
10:16:37om3ga:\
10:16:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> remove `[uint32]`
10:18:38om3gatype mismatch: got <SomeObject, SomeObject>
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10:18:59FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It sorts values
10:19:18om3gais it possible to sort keys?
10:19:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Dont imagine so
10:20:33om3ga:\ my sorting algs suck... thanks Elegantbeef, gonna implement my own then
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13:02:34FromDiscord<lantos> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4nxZ
13:02:58FromDiscord<lantos> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4nxZ" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4ny0"
13:09:35FromDiscord<lantos> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4ny5
13:20:17FromDiscord<Rika> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4nyd
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14:48:41FromDiscord<4zv4l> does anyone have an idea on how could I use `Detours` with Nim↵I didn't stop trying and either it wouldn't compile↵either it would segfault when calling a function from the library
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16:12:25FromDiscord<4zv4l> how can I get a string from a cstring ?
16:12:41FromDiscord<jtv> $(cstr)
16:12:45FromDiscord<enthus1ast> $yourCstring
16:13:18FromDiscord<4zv4l> I need to import strutils for that ?
16:13:21FromDiscord<enthus1ast> @4zv4l\: Deteurs idk but there is a minhook wrapper
16:13:35FromDiscord<enthus1ast> Detours
16:13:58FromDiscord<enthus1ast> is Detours not 32bit only?
16:14:12FromDiscord<4zv4l> In reply to @enthus1ast "<@329196212282458112>\: Deteurs idk but": I tried minhook too and it didn't work but I found `SetWindowsHookEx` which is amazing
16:14:17FromDiscord<4zv4l> In reply to @enthus1ast "is Detours not 32bit": 64bit too now
16:14:48FromDiscord<enthus1ast> i mean minhook and SetWindowsHookEx have completely different purpose
16:15:30FromDiscord<enthus1ast> with minhook you can hook any function with SetWindowsHookEx you hook into the windows messaging system
16:16:39FromDiscord<jtv> You don't have to import anything to do $(cstr)
16:16:51FromDiscord<enthus1ast> and as far as i know, the author of minhook (back then when Detours was 32bit only) "lent a few ideas" from Detours
16:17:48FromDiscord<4zv4l> In reply to @enthus1ast "with minhook you can": yeah, the final purpose is to hook the clipboard message so↵that's also good
16:18:07FromDiscord<enthus1ast> yes then i think SetWindowsHookEx is the right tool
16:27:29FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/4nzc
16:27:55FromDiscord<enthus1ast> you can also use staticRead
16:28:07FromDiscord<enthus1ast> so you dont have to put it in the source at all
16:28:17FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> this one should be in the source
16:28:23FromDiscord<enthus1ast> kk
16:28:32FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> but yes, staticRead is a nice way for a lot of things, thanks for the reminder
16:28:57FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> (edit) "http://ix.io/4nzc" => "http://ix.io/4nze"
17:02:18FromDiscord<lantos> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4nzp
17:02:42FromDiscord<lantos> also doesn't like when you use openArray :/
17:02:51FromDiscord<Rika> breaks?
17:02:57FromDiscord<Rika> the thing you gave me works just fine
17:03:33FromDiscord<Rika> you cant really store an open array in a type so that wont work
17:04:05FromDiscord<jtv> @michaelb.eth Does strutils.unescape() work for you? I haven't used it, but seems like it should
17:04:27FromDiscord<lantos> In reply to @Rika "you cant really store": sorry meant this
17:04:37FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @jtv "<@383034029135364096> Does strutils.unescape() work": thanks, but I wasn't able to get it to work, maybe user error on my part
17:05:47FromDiscord<jtv> It’s def an odd decision to make tristrings raw always instead of having to use r as a prefix
17:05:47FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4nzq
17:06:14FromDiscord<Ntsékees> Is there a Nim equivalent of C `attribute((used))`? (It prevents an unused function to be removed as dead code)
17:06:24FromDiscord<jtv> You can always do const mystr = "..." &
17:07:07FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @jtv "You can always do": oh yeah, derp, that works too, using the named segments was an artifact of my experiments and I should clean that up, thanks!
17:07:08FromDiscord<jtv> (edit) "const mystr" => "↵`const myster" | "↵`const myster= "..." ... &..." added "&↵ "..."" | "= "..."&↵ "..."& ... " added "..."
17:07:16FromDiscord<jtv> (edit) "..." => "...`"
17:07:25FromDiscord<jtv> (edit) "&↵ "..."" => "&↵"...""
17:07:29FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @Ntsékees "Is there a Nim": `export` it?
17:07:36FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> (edit) "In reply to @Ntsékees "Is there a Nim": ... `export`" added "explicitly"
17:08:04FromDiscord<Rika> exportc you mean
17:08:07FromDiscord<pyolyokh> <https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#pragmas-used-pragma>
17:08:07FromDiscord<jtv> I do generally end up using the trailing & or staticread depending on the circumstances. The tristring situation does suck 🙂
17:08:29FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @pyolyokh "<https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#pragmas-used": this does not disable DCE
17:08:34FromDiscord<Rika> it just suppresses the warning
17:08:48FromDiscord<Rika> it will still be removed from the compiled artifact
17:09:08FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @lantos "sorry meant this*": nothing you can do iirc
17:13:05FromDiscord<lantos> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/4nzt
17:15:31FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @lantos "yeah, also would have": i thought so too but idk
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17:20:03FromDiscord<pancake> https://infosec.exchange/@radareorg/109835921122288441
17:21:12FromDiscord<enthus1ast> what
17:23:28FromDiscord<pancake> i just added the initial support to script radare2 with nim, using the embedded quickjs runtime
17:23:59FromDiscord<enthus1ast> so you compile nim to js? (or quickjs)?
17:25:29FromDiscord<pancake> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1073293575904837684/Screenshot_2023-02-09_at_18.25.19.png
17:25:55FromDiscord<pancake> compiles nim to js but uses the .qjs extension isntead. the only "syscall" needed is having the `r2cmd` defined
17:26:38FromDiscord<enthus1ast> ah ok, nice \:)
17:26:46FromDiscord<pancake> Also wrote this to define a more idiomatic api on top of r2cmd https://github.com/radareorg/radare2-r2papi/tree/master/nim in case anyone wants to contribute or play with it.
17:28:10FromDiscord<pancake> i wonder if its possible to transpile nim itself to js, so it can be shipped as an r2 plugin and stop depending on a native executable in your $PATH
17:30:09FromDiscord<enthus1ast> afaik the compiler cannot be compiled for the js target
17:30:20FromDiscord<enthus1ast> but i've never tried
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17:35:56proportionsnoobs use real languages not this nim for small kids xaxaxa
17:43:20FromDiscord<Phil> ?
17:49:54FromDiscord<tfp> xaxaxaxa
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17:56:58FromDiscord<eyes> wahoo
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17:57:58FromDiscord<eyes> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4nzA
17:58:20FromDiscord<eyes> do I need to dereference the sequence somehow?
18:01:08FromDiscord<pyolyokh> theseq[].add
18:02:07FromDiscord<eyes> why are the ``[]`` necessary?
18:02:15FromDiscord<eyes> ill try it now but just wondering
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18:03:57FromDiscord<Zoom> Here I thought I get to use concepts finally. Can't pass a concept-typed parameter to a thread, as it's `invalid type: 'Thread[(ptr Chan[Msg], int, ptr Associative[string, string])]' for var`. Sigh
18:11:10FromDiscord<Yepoleb> In reply to @eyes "why are the ``[]``": that's the dereference operator
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18:17:10FromDiscord<Hourglass [She/Her]> I wanna make a hexagonal grid (the last one), to draw it is it only a matter of shifting the drawn line along? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1073306579509727302/Grids_900.png
18:29:11FromDiscord<pyolyokh> you have a hexagonal grid in the middle there, already. It just has some extra lines
18:29:27FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @Hourglass, When the Hour Strikes "I wanna make a": there is a godot-engine tutorial about it. the idea should be useful no matter the engine/lang↵what i vaguely recall, it was mostly alignment. but depends on your implementation afair
18:30:21FromDiscord<Hourglass [She/Her]> In reply to @pyolyokh "you have a hexagonal": Yeah ik, but I need to recreate it in my program xD
18:30:31FromDiscord<Hourglass [She/Her]> In reply to @sOkam! "there is a godot-engine": Hm alright, thanks!
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18:40:10FromDiscord<Hourglass [She/Her]> If I do `newSeq[MyType](10)` does it initialise the type?
18:44:56FromDiscord<pyolyokh> yes, you'll want <https://nim-lang.org/docs/system.html#newSeqUninitialized%2CNatural> otherwise
18:48:21FromDiscord<Hourglass [She/Her]> Hm alright
18:48:35FromDiscord<Hourglass [She/Her]> I'm trying to think of how I'd implement this ngl... It's difficult
18:48:53FromDiscord<4zv4l> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4nzP
18:49:04FromDiscord<Hourglass [She/Her]> I could make each layer an object? Since I already plan to have the layers nestable (they get smaller the further you go up)
18:49:47FromDiscord<4zv4l> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/XlR
18:52:55FromDiscord<4zv4l> I think that's because I close the clipboard before reading from the pointer
19:32:38FromDiscord<eyes> dies\
19:32:43FromDiscord<eyes> just read the documentation for std/re
19:32:56FromDiscord<eyes> looks like it doesnt support regex groups?
19:34:11FromDiscord<eyes> for example, I have strings like this that im trying to match:↵``[ ] TODO take out the trash every weekend``↵which I match with this pattern:↵``re"\[[ x]\]\s?(.?)$"``
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19:34:34FromDiscord<eyes> notice the ``(.?)`` for the end of the line. any way to get that part of the match?
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19:34:43FromDiscord<eyes> (edit) "for" => "before"
19:35:09FromDiscord<eyes> it should match ``TODO take out the trash every weekend``
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19:40:54FromDiscord<Hourglass [She/Her]> @eyes quick google search says `re` is deprecated, and you should be using `nre` instead?
19:41:08FromDiscord<Hourglass [She/Her]> Though, I don't touch regex so that's for you to test aha
19:53:48FromDiscord<rakgew> for regexes in nim, pure-nim https://github.com/nitely/nim-regex has become my goto.
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20:23:04FromDiscord<eyes> danke
20:33:08FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> In reply to @eyes "danke": bitte 😄
20:57:15FromDiscord<Prestige> Is there a way to have like, an array of 9 bits?
20:58:02FromDiscord<jtv> You can use builtin sets.
20:58:26FromDiscord<jtv> Under the hood there will always be storage allocated that's aligned, generally to the full word size of the machine
20:58:37FromDiscord<jtv> But at least to the byte in any circumstance
20:58:46FromDiscord<Prestige> right, thanks
21:00:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> A set of 9 elements emits a 16bit integer unless you have a packed struct with bitfields
21:00:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> But yea you need 16bits regardless if you use 9..15
21:01:29FromDiscord<jtv> I'd assume it all depends on the architecture and the tool chain, but it's often slower to load and store when ints are not word-aligned
21:01:56FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea the compiler generally does what's 'right'
21:04:12FromDiscord<turbo> Is there a way to use `getRow` with prepared statements?
21:07:27FromDiscord<turbo> getValue and getRow(s) are completely inconsistent in their support for prepare statements
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