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01:24:57FromDiscord<Chem> @Clonkk Hey, just wanted to stop by and say thanks -- I got it working after your advice = D
01:25:00FromDiscord<Chem> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/829889601560117278/unknown.png
01:26:13FromDiscord<Chem> 🙏
01:26:18FromDiscord<Chem> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/n60
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01:55:30FromDiscord<Chem> One thing I'm not entirely clear on -- by the `bycopy` pragma means the `ReaperPluginInfoT` type should be passed by-value, instead of by reference.↵If this is a pointer to a struct that is being passed in from the external program to my script's entry function, wouldn't `byref` make more sense since it would be a reference to the struct?
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02:40:39FromGitter<gogolxdong> Is nim-libp2p going to get rid of p2pd?
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03:24:27ForumUpdaterBotNew thread by Niminem: Testing/Feedback for Neel 0.4.0 development, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7764
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03:34:55FromDiscord<Tuatarian> Is there an equivalent to libmpeg2 in bin?
03:34:58FromDiscord<Tuatarian> nim
03:37:06FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> There is https://github.com/treeform/mpeg though alternatively you could wrap libmpeg2 yourself 😄
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06:16:57FromDiscord<Clonkk> In reply to @Chem "One thing I'm not": Nice. If you pass a pointer bycopy only the pointer gets copied so it's not an issue
06:20:56FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> Clonkk now on discord? Ruh roh the proprietary software is winning!
06:21:19Clonkk[m]Why not both?
06:22:28Clonkk[m]The reason being Tha the discord / Matrix bridge o' the main channel is different than on the science Channe and it's difficult to read code snippet for this Channel
06:23:56FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> ah
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07:14:15FromDiscord<hamidb80> oes any implementation of lisp let you to walk into AST ( something like Nim) ?
07:14:19FromDiscord<hamidb80> (edit) "oes" => "does"
07:14:54FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> Nim's macros are inspired by lisp's
07:16:39FromDiscord<hamidb80> In reply to @ElegantBeef "Nim's macros are inspired": but i didn't see AST manipulation in lisp ( for e.g. change varaibles names ,... )
07:17:31FromDiscord<hamidb80> (edit) "change" => "changing"
07:17:38FromDiscord<hamidb80> (edit) "varaibles" => "variable"
07:17:45FromDiscord<hamidb80> (edit) "names ,..." => "name, ..."
07:18:37FromDiscord<hamidb80> did you see them in any kinds of lisp?
07:18:56FromDiscord<hamidb80> (edit) "kinds" => "implementations"
07:19:30FromDiscord<hamidb80> In reply to @Chem "": what's that
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07:34:52FromDiscord<konsumlamm> s-expressions already are the lisp AST
07:42:00FromDiscord<Varriount> Can anyone illuminate this PR for me? https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/13582#issuecomment-816483101
07:43:08ForumUpdaterBotNew thread by Stefan_Salewski: Tables and hashes, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7765
07:43:52Clonkk[m]<FromDiscord "<Varriount> Can anyone illuminat"> If I understand correctly, this is to improve speed while keeping stacktrace but if you want to optimize for speed you sually remove stacktrace anyway
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08:58:14Yardanicoalso btw narimiran not everyone has daylight savings, so for some 3pm UTC is different than before :) i mean regarding https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7760
09:07:34narimiranYardanico: ah
09:18:14FromDiscord<dom96> Why don't we add a link like: https://time.is/compare/1600_9_Apr_2021_in_Germany 🙂
09:18:40FromDiscord<dom96> (edit) "https://time.is/compare/1600_9_Apr_2021_in_Germany" => "https://time.is/compare/1700_9_Apr_2021_in_Germany"
09:21:05PMunchYeah that'd be a good idea
09:21:23FromDiscord<konsumlamm> why do i discover another nim bug every other day ;-;
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09:21:53PMunchWhat did you do now?
09:21:53FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> You're using it wrong
09:22:38FromDiscord<konsumlamm> i tried making an anonymous iterator in a template
09:22:54FromDiscord<konsumlamm> In reply to @ElegantBeef "You're using it wrong": that's how we're calling internal errors now, eh
09:22:58Prestigesource?
09:23:23FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> In reply to @konsumlamm "that's how we're calling": I wouldnt consider me "we" i'm just a numpty with a hammer
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09:27:36FromDiscord<konsumlamm> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2Vtp
09:27:59FromDiscord<Rika> Is that why there’s all these horribly placed screws on these planks
09:28:03FromDiscord<Rika> Was that you
09:28:24FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> Hey when the only tool you have is a hammer everything you cant put in looks like a screw
09:28:33FromDiscord<Rika> Nail
09:28:38FromDiscord<Rika> You don’t hammer in screws
09:29:15FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> Oh
09:29:30FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> What do you know about spaceship design?!
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09:34:00FromDiscord<konsumlamm> Nim just feels very immature when i find bugs all the time...
09:38:24Prestigewas that a bug?
09:40:27FromDiscord<Varriount> In reply to @konsumlamm "Nim just feels very": Have they been reported?
09:42:35narimiran"Why don't we add a link like...." --> everybody can post a comment in that thread ;)
09:43:18narimiranbut for the next time, i might add a link like that in the announcement, yes
09:45:53PMunchHmm I'm trying to bisect something in the Nim repo but it keeps failing with the weirdest issues..
09:46:42PMunchStuff like this: http://ix.io/2Vtt
09:48:00PMunchBut then building it right after works just fine..
09:48:12PrestigePMunch: paste removed (malware) (please dont do this)
09:48:29PMunchHuh?
09:48:33Prestigelook at the paste
09:48:41PMunchYeah, looks fine to me..
09:49:10PrestigeWeird
09:49:18PrestigeThat's the message I got when I viewed it
09:49:37PMunchHmm, weird
09:49:47PMunchhttp://ix.io/2Vtv try that one
09:49:55PrestigeCool that works
09:49:58PMunchIt's the two runs bad and good back to back
09:51:32ForumUpdaterBotNew thread by Jhgalino: Parsecsv strangeness, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7766
09:52:51FromDiscord<konsumlamm> In reply to @Varriount "Have they been reported?": some of them
09:53:19FromDiscord<konsumlamm> In reply to @Prestige "was that a bug?": are you legit asking wether an internal error is a bug?
09:53:43PrestigeI'm just curious if the code you wrote should be valid
09:53:56FromDiscord<Rika> I don’t see why not
09:54:30FromDiscord<konsumlamm> idk if it should, but that doesn't change the fact rhat it's a bug
10:00:06PMunchYeah a compiler crash is always a bug
10:04:32ozzzSolved issue with my code. in 1.4.4 something changed in GC behavior, I don't really know yet what exactly
10:06:17ozzzwhat you think, can --gc:arc result with more responsive "fast" results for webapp server?
10:07:07ozzzor it's all about latency tolerances for realtime? now I have --gc:boehm turned on
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10:53:54PMunch@ozzz, I believe ARC should be good for that
10:54:07PMunchWhy are you using boehm?
10:59:03PMunchShould I report this on GitHub? https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7329#49352
11:00:08ozzzPMunch, smth wrong in my code, I got segfaults if GC not supports shared heap
11:00:20PMunchAh right
11:01:21ozzzI suppose the reason is that I pass pointer to the C lib functions
11:02:08ozzzwith enabled arc I get segfaults too
11:02:14PMunchA pointer to Nim managed memory?
11:02:39ozzzfor example to the threadvar
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12:11:49FromDiscord<Mr Axilus> Do any of the popular physics simulation libraries (bullet, etc.) have Nim bindings yet?
12:13:20FromDiscord<zetashift> https://github.com/matkuki/chipmunk7_demos/ chipmunk maybe?
12:15:01FromDiscord<Mr Axilus> That could work, any 3D ones?
12:17:51federico3https://itnext.io/modern-storage-is-plenty-fast-it-is-the-apis-that-are-bad-6a68319fbc1a
12:25:22PMunchfowl appears to have wrapped Bullet: https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimlibs/blob/master/fowltek/bullet.nim
12:25:26PMunchAlthough its really old
12:29:45FromDiscord<clyybber> In reply to @mraxilus "That could work, any": I have ported libccd which is used by bullet; https://github.com/Clyybber/nimccd It handles collision of convex objects, you can build physics around that
12:46:18FromDiscord<inv> How is it possible to add grp: static in the line (not in comment 🙂 ) ? https://github.com/inv2004/streamfix/blob/main/src/streamfix.nim#L27
12:46:47FromDiscord<inv> I would also like try to replace GroupSet with GroupDesc, and it does not work also
12:48:32FromDiscord<inv> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VuL
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12:50:03ForumUpdaterBotNew thread by FabienPRI: String concat I don't understand, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7767
12:51:32FromDiscord<inv> But it compiles in playground. WTF
12:56:53FromDiscord<inv> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VuQ
12:57:43PMunch@inv, check the Nim version?
12:57:49PMunchWindows vs. Linux?
12:58:31PMunchFor me it doesn't compile on the playground though..
12:59:29FromDiscord<inv> I think it was because there was not main
13:02:20FromDiscord<inv> another minimal version: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VuV
13:03:09PMunchUnable to load ix paste, file too large, or download is too slow
13:03:34FromDiscord<inv> hm, just 162 lines
13:03:40PMunchWhen I load it on the playground..
13:03:47PMunchMaybe someone is hitting it hard with something
13:07:14FromDiscord<inv> Yep, something is not so good with playground
13:08:28PMunchI'm doing maintenance on it right now
13:08:39FromDiscord<inv> (edit) "Yep, something is not so good with ... playground" added "the"
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13:13:26FromDiscord<inv> where is --asm output ?
13:13:38PMunchIn nimcache I guess?
13:16:57FromDiscord<inv> Found it. thank you
13:18:33FromDiscord<inv> https://godbolt.org/z/brGbfs94f
13:19:23FromDiscord<inv> I am trying to optimize it
13:31:52PMunchSeems like the playground had accumulated images again
13:32:02PMunchI'm deleting them now, but that takes ages
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13:50:40FromDiscord<Mr Axilus> In reply to @Clyybber "I have ported libccd": Cool, I take it that's a lot more involved, any good learning resources you know of?
13:57:29Clonkk[m]Is it possible to use ``borrow`` with a generic distinct type ?
14:01:22leorize[m]technically yes, practically no since the compiler is broken in this aspect
14:01:48Clonkk[m]I guess it explains why my code doesn't compile then 😛
14:01:58leorize[m]I already filed a bug for this on github
14:02:14leorize[m]there are no walkarounds atm :(
14:02:33Clonkk[m]Well there is: writing proc manually ^^
14:03:32Clonkk[m]But yeah, it's a bit annoying
14:04:21leorize[m]https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/17322 <- it's sorta impossible for my case
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14:28:20FromDiscord<Yardanico> ~30 minutes before the meeting~
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14:35:05Clonkk[m]Does Nim supports varargs as middle argument position ? I'm talking ``proc a[T: SomeNumber](x: X, varargs[int], T: val)``
14:36:45FromDiscord<haxscramper> yes - `proc varg(a: varargs[int], b: float) = discard`
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14:37:23Clonkk[m]Even if the last argument is an int as well ?
14:37:29FromDiscord<haxscramper> `proc varg(a: varargs[int], b: int) = echo a, "::", b`
14:37:29Clonkk[m](since my last argument is a generic)
14:37:33Clonkk[m]Nice !
14:37:34Clonkk[m]Thanks
14:37:43FromDiscord<haxscramper> You can always try it for yourself on playground
14:38:26FromDiscord<haxscramper> Though I honestly thought it wouldn't work with `varargs[T], T` case
14:38:28Clonkk[m]Yeah I know I should, but I'm lazy 😛
14:50:18PMunch@haxscramper, can't do it on the playground right now :P
14:52:30FromDiscord<haxscramper> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VvD
15:03:33narimiranhttps://meet.jit.si/NimDevMeet - starting now!
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15:52:45ForumUpdaterBotNew thread by Miran: Release candidates for 1.4.6 and 1.2.12, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7768
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16:29:24FromDiscord<dom96> PMunch: I might be able to join later to continue the discussion if you'd like, or we can chat here 🙂
16:42:11FromDiscord<Chem> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/RgF
16:43:09FromDiscord<Chem> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2Vw7" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2Vw6"
16:48:51ForumUpdaterBotNew thread by Bung: Chronos problem, my client-server test randomly fails on windows and macOS, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7769
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16:50:29FromDiscord<Clonkk> In reply to @Chem "What does this mean,": https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#threads-gc-safety
17:06:16FromDiscord<theSherwood> In reply to @Yardanico "~30 minutes before the": Are any recordings made of these meetings? I'm not able to meet synchronously, but it would be great to hear the latest.
17:06:29FromDiscord<Yardanico> of course, I've been recording them since the first meeting :)
17:06:38FromDiscord<Yardanico> the first one is already live on the nim youtube channel
17:06:49FromDiscord<Yardanico> not sure about the second one, I'm not the one uploading them to there
17:07:11FromDiscord<Yardanico> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZQ-Z98q5r4
17:07:16FromDiscord<theSherwood> I had no idea. Fantastic news! Thanks
17:14:57ForumUpdaterBotNew thread by Taufeeqmowzer01: Issue with Nim Manual on Windows Chrome, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7770
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17:18:21FromDiscord<Chem> In reply to @SneakyBaguette "https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#threads-gc-sa": I had read that but maybe I'm just a bit dull, I wasn't sure I entirely understood it
17:18:44FromDiscord<Chem> It's not a problem, it's just saying that the call isn't GC safe, but that's not an issue because of Nim's GC right/
17:18:46FromDiscord<Chem> (edit) "right/" => "right>"
17:18:47FromDiscord<Chem> (edit) "right>" => "right?"
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17:27:58FromDiscord<Clonkk> In reply to @Chem "I had read that": Basically gcSafe if whether or not your proc interact with memory that is not localized in the heap of your thread
17:28:12FromDiscord<Clonkk> This is different if oyu use --gc:arc because --gc:arc does not use head per thread
17:29:17FromDiscord<Chem> Ahh I see, ty = D
17:29:38FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @SneakyBaguette "This is different if": although the compiler doesn't disable gc safety warnings with arc/orc, since they're still valid in some cases :)
17:29:45FromDiscord<Clonkk> (edit) "head" => "heap"
17:46:54FromDiscord<hamidb80> i'm trying to implement `pop` with ranges↵but i got error in delete proc https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/830136700520235029/unknown.png
17:47:22FromDiscord<Yardanico> what's the error?
17:48:02FromDiscord<hamidb80> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2Vwj
17:48:27FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @hamidb80 "it does work for": well as the error says there's no delete proc which takes a HSlice at all
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17:57:23FromDiscord<hamidb80> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=
17:57:43FromDiscord<hamidb80> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2Vwo"
17:57:52FromDiscord<hamidb80> (edit)
17:58:02FromDiscord<hamidb80> 🤔
17:59:26FromDiscord<hamidb80> it hangs for ever 😆
18:18:09FromDiscord<DavidKunz> Hi, just wanted to tell you that the nim playground seems to be down: https://play.nim-lang.org/
18:19:49FromDiscord<DavidKunz> never mind, seems to work again!
18:20:08FromDiscord<exelotl> oh yeah it's a bit temperamental sometimes :(
18:21:16FromDiscord<exelotl> Uuh, so I have a custom assignment operator https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/830145348470439987/Screenshot_from_2021-04-09_19-20-56.png
18:23:11FromDiscord<exelotl> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/GpQ
18:23:52FromDiscord<exelotl> instead, it calls this "sink" version of the assignment operator https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/830146002900090980/Screenshot_from_2021-04-09_19-23-24.png
18:23:57FromDiscord<haxscramper> IIRC dup works for procedure calls, and uses ast matching to determine what should be duplicated
18:24:12FromDiscord<haxscramper> So I'm not sure if dup even triggers here
18:24:41FromDiscord<haxscramper> I might be wrong though
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18:25:31FromDiscord<exelotl> I don't think dup is the culprit, just the fact that I assigned a short-lived value so it was able to infer a sink
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18:45:26FromDiscord<hamidb80> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VwG
18:45:39FromDiscord<hamidb80> any idea?
18:46:32FromDiscord<exelotl> weird 🤔
18:46:58FromDiscord<hamidb80> (edit) "https://paste.rs/jhN" => "https://paste.rs/jcM"
18:48:41FromDiscord<haxscramper> You can explicitly use `'i64` on first element.
18:49:03FromDiscord<haxscramper> I think this error is due to first value being in range of `int32` so it gets parsed like this
18:49:17FromDiscord<haxscramper> https://github.com/nim-lang/RFCs/issues/364
18:50:39FromDiscord<hamidb80> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VwM
18:51:33FromDiscord<hamidb80> In reply to @haxscramper "I think this error": wow
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18:51:54FromDiscord<haxscramper> In reply to @hamidb80 "this code also doesn't": `0x3c6ef372'int64`
18:51:56FromDiscord<haxscramper> (edit) "`0x3c6ef372'int64`" => "`0x3c6ef372'i64`"
18:52:26FromDiscord<haxscramper> adding type constraint to variable does not make the rhs literal have different type
18:52:42FromDiscord<haxscramper> Unless it is a primitive like 12
19:16:41FromDiscord<Chem> Does overriding `compileTmpl` in `config.nims` or compile command not work 🤔
19:17:07FromDiscord<Chem> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VwQ
19:17:30FromDiscord<Chem> the `cc` doesn't actually get added to the compile template, it uses the base one, though the other settings seem to work fine
19:17:54FromDiscord<Chem> https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/8ccde68f132be4dba330eb6ec50f4679e564efac/compiler/extccomp.nim#L75
19:22:18FromDiscord<Chem> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VwS
19:22:38FromDiscord<Chem> even if I change the `compileTmpl` to be like `monkey banana` it doesn't actually appear to do anything ;swe
19:22:41FromDiscord<Chem> (edit) ";swe" => "😅"
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19:23:49FromDiscord<Yardanico> to fix that I just create a simple script wrapper which has no spaces in the name
19:24:36FromDiscord<Chem> Ah, that's a bit hacky but that's probably the easiest solution. I filed an issue asking if there could be some kind of `--verbatim` flag for the compiler binary so it doesn't break on Windows
19:24:48FromDiscord<Chem> or if overriding `compileTmpl` would work, that would solve everything
19:27:45FromDiscord<Chem> In reply to @Yardanico "to fix that I": Hey, how would this work on Windows, since it's going to invoke an `.exe`?
19:28:12FromDiscord<Chem> I was thinking I would just make `./zigcc` that's a shell script but on Windows don't think you can do thsi
19:28:14FromDiscord<Chem> (edit) "thsi" => "this"
19:28:24FromDiscord<AmjadHD> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VwU
19:28:30FromDiscord<AmjadHD> How do I fix it ?
19:28:33FromDiscord<Chem> I could make a Zig command line application that literally just calls `zig cc $@` 😂 ?
19:28:40FromDiscord<Chem> (edit) "application" => "binary `.exe`"
19:31:15FromDiscord<lamersc> Is there any way in nim to force case sensitive?
19:31:31FromDiscord<Chem> In reply to @lamersc "Is there any way": No, I'm almost 100% certain that's in the Nim github WIKI FAEW
19:31:33FromDiscord<Chem> (edit) "FAEW" => "FAQ"
19:32:01FromDiscord<Chem> https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/wiki/Unofficial-FAQ#why-is-it-caseunderscore-insensitive
19:33:00FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> I do know the compiler complains if you dont type symbols exactly, so could look at that 😄
19:33:49FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> Ponders if `--styleCheck:error` is what does that
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19:37:48FromDiscord<Chem> Ah that's a smart idea -- yeah you can probably use the NEP1 style guide check at compile time to fake case-sensitivity
19:37:50FromDiscord<Chem> do that
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19:40:49FromDiscord<Hi02Hi> in the unofficial faq, what is up with↵"However, if you insist on using tabs in your code, putting this at the top of your code will change the tabs into spaces when compiling `#? replace(sub = "\t", by = " ")`"
19:42:11FromDiscord<Chem> Compile "code filter" AFAIK
19:42:30FromDiscord<Chem> https://nim-lang.org/docs/filters.html
19:45:30ForumUpdaterBotNew thread by Thewilliamc15: Headless Nim Executable App Option?, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7771
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20:00:33ForumUpdaterBotNew post on r/nim by dullbananas: For WebAssembly, is Nim noticably slower than Rust?, see https://reddit.com/r/nim/comments/mnpc3v/for_webassembly_is_nim_noticably_slower_than_rust/
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20:01:42FromDiscord<krisppurg> In Nim what would be equal to the same as `b'\x00\x00\xff\xff'` (python)?
20:02:42FromDiscord<haxscramper> !eval echo @"\x00\xFF"
20:02:48NimBot@['\x00', '\xFF']
20:02:58FromDiscord<haxscramper> Nim strings are byte sequences
20:03:19FromDiscord<haxscramper> Or you can create an array, or a sequence
20:03:31FromDiscord<krisppurg> alright
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20:15:45FromDiscord<clyybber> In reply to @mraxilus "Cool, I take it": I would try looking at the source codes/solvers of bullet, react or any other physics engine you can think of
20:15:56FromDiscord<clyybber> (edit) "think" => "know"
20:21:00FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> In reply to @AmjadHD "I want to make": What do you expect it to print values out of order?
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20:38:41FromDiscord<mrotaru> my nim program uses a native lib and it gives me back a `ptr`; how can echo the contents of that ptr ?
20:40:40FromDiscord<AmjadHD> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2Vxn
20:41:12FromDiscord<haxscramper> In reply to @mrotaru "my nim program uses": You can do `echo yourPtr[]` to print dereferenced version of the pointer
20:41:28FromDiscord<haxscramper> Alternatively you might try `repr yourPtr`
20:43:46FromDiscord<haxscramper> `[]` is a dereference operator
20:44:06FromDiscord<mrotaru> Actually even `echo foo` works, but not for all fields. Here is what i actually get: `(path: "/home/mihai/code/fstest/foo/4913", time_t: 1618000959, flags: ..., flags_num: 1)`
20:44:20FromDiscord<haxscramper> Alternatively, if type pointed to has a complex structure you can define `$` operator for your type
20:44:25FromDiscord<mrotaru> So `flags` is `...` ?
20:44:28FromDiscord<haxscramper> `flags:` is a pointer/ref?
20:44:50FromDiscord<mrotaru> ` fsw_event_flag {.size: sizeof(cint).} = enum`
20:45:36FromDiscord<mrotaru> ` flags: ptr fsw_event_flag`
20:46:21FromDiscord<haxscramper> Yes, default string conversion operator does no traverse pointers
20:46:53FromDiscord<haxscramper> Because it can create duplicate or even cyclic structures in memory and it is not entirely clear how to print them in general case
20:47:12FromDiscord<mrotaru> That makes sense. So i have to deref manually or smth ?
20:48:19FromDiscord<haxscramper> You need to implement your own `$` operator. You might do this for `ptr fsw_event_flag`, but I'm not sure if it would work (i.e. you might need to imeplement `$` for `fsw_cevent` type)
20:49:33FromDiscord<mrotaru> Hmm, just tried ` echo event.flags[]` and it does indeed give me the pretty-printed enum value - and i don't see `$
20:49:42FromDiscord<mrotaru> (edit) "`$" => "`$` implemented for it"
20:49:50FromDiscord<haxscramper> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2Vxr
20:50:13FromDiscord<haxscramper> In reply to @mrotaru "Hmm, just tried `": All default types have `$` automatically implemented
20:50:31FromDiscord<haxscramper> Or rather default implementation of the `$` is generic and works for almost anything
20:51:08FromDiscord<haxscramper> Except when you have `ptr`/`ref` fields - in this case `...` is placed instead
20:51:22FromDiscord<mrotaru> Got it, cheers !
20:51:36FromDiscord<haxscramper> https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/version-1-4/lib/system/dollars.nim#L123
20:52:15FromDiscord<haxscramper> Actually I was wrong - `...` is placed when `$` does not work for a type
20:52:46FromDiscord<haxscramper> And there is no `$` implemented for pointer types so that's why it does not print events
20:53:12FromDiscord<haxscramper> The effect is still the same but the reason is slightly different
20:53:48FromDiscord<mrotaru> What does `compiles` mean here: `when compiles($value):` ?
20:54:49FromDiscord<haxscramper> literally check is code complies
20:55:09FromDiscord<haxscramper> when $value compiles `compiles` evaluates to true, otherwise it is false
20:55:15FromDiscord<haxscramper> (edit) "$value" => "`$value`"
20:55:28FromDiscord<haxscramper> !eval compiles(1 + "123")
20:55:32FromDiscord<haxscramper> !eval 1 + "123"
20:55:33NimBotCompile failed: /usercode/in.nim(1, 9) Error: expression 'false' is of type 'bool' and has to be used (or discarded)
20:55:35NimBotCompile failed: /usercode/in.nim(1, 3) Error: type mismatch: got <int literal(1), string>
20:55:56FromDiscord<mrotaru> zealous bots 😄
20:56:01FromDiscord<haxscramper> !eval echo compiles(1 + "123")
20:56:05NimBotfalse
20:57:15FromDiscord<mrotaru> this `!eval` thingie is a discord plugin or something ? Or is it part of Nim ?
20:58:16FromDiscord<haxscramper> it is an IRC bot written in nim https://github.com/nim-lang/nimbot
21:09:35FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> In reply to @AmjadHD "it's running synchronously, i": the error is due to the runforever, dont think it's needed
21:13:56FromDiscord<j-james> Does a more functional replacement for `nim secret` exist?
21:14:11FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> `inim`
21:14:38FromDiscord<krisppurg> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/m7m
21:16:26FromDiscord<krisppurg> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VxI" => "https://paste.rs/F39"
21:16:32FromDiscord<j-james> Ah, thank you
21:16:42FromDiscord<j-james> I had heard of something but didn't know where to find it
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21:22:13FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> @AmjadHD well i dont use async much but this seems to hit the goal you wanted https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VxN
21:22:21FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> Someone that knows better might have smarter solution
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21:52:45FromDiscord<dom96> huh, we've reached a point where GitHub just cuts off our packages.json file https://github.com/nim-lang/packages/blob/master/packages.json
21:52:50FromDiscord<dom96> confused the hell out of me
21:53:43FromDiscord<Avatarfighter> if you look at the raw file it's good
21:53:58ForumUpdaterBotNew Nimble package! aur - A client for the Arch Linux User Repository (AUR), see https://github.com/hnicke/aur.nim
21:55:22FromDiscord<dom96> also I figured out why GitHub was still showing Travis
21:55:37FromDiscord<dom96> The branch protection rules had a Travis entry
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22:28:27FromDiscord<exelotl> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2Vy9
22:30:20FromDiscord<exelotl> template that returns an array, but the length of the array isn't known until after the template has been expanded
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22:58:49FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> What's the issue?
23:02:00FromDiscord<exelotl> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2Vyx
23:02:43FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2Vyz
23:02:53FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> If you cache that static block into a const you can return the data
23:04:49FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> Oh turns out that's not even needed 😄
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23:05:31FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> Wait it is, ugh ran code in playground 😄
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23:08:43FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> Dont know if what i suggested double copies the data, it might
23:08:57FromDiscord<exelotl> ah that's perfect though, thanks
23:09:25FromDiscord<exelotl> this is satisfying lol↵https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=2VyB
23:11:06FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> Yea especially since it's not casting
23:12:32FromDiscord<exelotl> but can't char -> byte overflow?
23:14:47FromDiscord<exelotl> or rather, underflow
23:15:11FromDiscord<exelotl> or is a conversion to any unsigned type unchecked, in addition to operations on unsigned types being unchecked
23:15:55FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> i mean a char is a byte
23:16:20FromDiscord<exelotl> are they not signed or is that just a C thing?
23:16:24FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> they're both 0-255 values
23:16:43FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> That's just a C thing afaik
23:18:25FromDiscord<carpal> In reply to @haxscramper "!eval echo compiles(1 +": lol
23:18:53FromDiscord<carpal> what's the purpose of this macro?
23:24:12FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> Exposing code when there is some type of compilation dependant logic
23:24:39FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> `when compiles(1 + "123"):` let's you assume that you have `int + string` so you could do something with it
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