| 00:29:07 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> In reply to @bostonboston "`getOrDefault()`": i think defaultdict is slihtly more complicated actually |
| 00:30:10 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> because it doesn't do just get operations, but allows you to directly do operations on the value |
| 00:30:12 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> for example |
| 00:30:37 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=bdFCNieF |
| 00:30:46 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=NqaeFxzX" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=myeLyeKz" |
| 00:31:24 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=OAunFlkc" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=RgUkrzoJ" |
| 00:31:30 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> So make `[]` add the value to the dictonary |
| 00:31:48 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> This is an awful way of writing dictionaries as it has no indication you're accessing an invalidi key |
| 00:32:06 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> In reply to @Elegantbeef "This is an awful": weeeeeeeellllllllll idk its just one of the most useful things in python |
| 00:32:22 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> (edit) "In reply to @Elegantbeef "This is an awful": weeeeeeeellllllllll idk its just one of the most useful things in python ... " added "for alot of things" |
| 00:32:57 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> as far as hashtables are concerned, as long as the type signature matches its really not like you could have an invalid key since it would just create one if it is invalid |
| 00:33:14 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> and it can always hash if the type signature matches because if not why is your type hashable? |
| 00:33:42 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I mean invalid in the case of accidentally using a wrong value that you didn't want to use |
| 00:34:33 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=tSeWzNwv |
| 00:46:43 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> In reply to @Elegantbeef "I mean invalid in": thats what regular dict is for i think |
| 00:46:48 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> and why python seperates the two |
| 00:46:56 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> although defaultdict is still in the standard library |
| 00:47:12 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=pDtByYhZ |
| 00:47:14 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> for example |
| 00:47:20 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=jIBHTlkr" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=DXBQKZSl" |
| 00:47:37 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> counting all the values in an array |
| 00:47:43 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> That's just a `CountTable` in Nim |
| 00:47:50 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> yeah thats not the most cumbersome thing ever |
| 00:47:54 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> No need for odd behaviour when it's a count table |
| 00:47:57 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> but another example |
| 00:48:19 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=qsjqGtJe |
| 00:48:25 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> this is a sparse directed weighted graph |
| 00:48:28 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> for example |
| 00:48:41 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> which is a very nice thing to have |
| 00:48:50 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> and the "in" operation still works fine |
| 00:48:56 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> but once you start working with an edge |
| 00:48:58 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> (edit) "but once you start working with an edge ... " added "it appears" |
| 00:49:10 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> it removes alot of boilerplate code at least |
| 00:49:53 | FromDiscord | <wug.s> (edit) "it removes alot of boilerplate code ... at" added "related to graphs" |
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| 03:38:59 | FromDiscord | <4zv4l> is https://github.com/yglukhov/nimpy not active anymore ?↵I see the last commit is from 6months, its already an amazing lib, I was just wondering about the type `object` support |
| 03:45:29 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I swear to jeebuz, people will act like anything without a commit marked tomorrow is inactive |
| 03:50:13 | FromDiscord | <4zv4l> not quite sur to get what you mean, 6 months without any change in a project is pretty long |
| 03:50:18 | FromDiscord | <4zv4l> (edit) "sur" => "sure" |
| 03:50:43 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It's more important to look at the activity of the maintainer in regards to issues and pull requests |
| 03:51:47 | FromDiscord | <4zv4l> well 6 months means no pull request have been merged during that time and no issue got fixed by changing the code |
| 03:52:15 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Right, but are there important issues, and has the author made any comments on any issue/pull requests |
| 03:52:50 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It's free software if the author is somewhat active it's clearly active |
| 03:53:40 | FromDiscord | <4zv4l> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Right, but are there": not for a long time it seems |
| 03:55:42 | FromDiscord | <4zv4l> one pull request, but the issues not really |
| 03:55:55 | FromDiscord | <4zv4l> what I meant is that it clearly slowed down a lot |
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| 13:46:49 | FromDiscord | <angelsdust> Been a hot minute since I played with Nim, why does this fail? `type mismatch: got 'None' for 'none' but expected 'Option[nimber.RouteHandler]'` I thought options can have none |
| 13:47:14 | FromDiscord | <angelsdust> Hmm, removing none seems to have fixed it lol |
| 13:48:58 | Amun-Ra | None looks like some(None) |
| 13:50:08 | FromDiscord | <k0ts> no code provided so we can only guess what you tried |
| 13:50:14 | FromDiscord | <k0ts> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=YaGhEqhB |
| 13:50:26 | FromDiscord | <k0ts> needs to be none(int) |
| 13:50:35 | FromDiscord | <angelsdust> Ooh |
| 13:50:48 | FromDiscord | <angelsdust> I had `func(a: 12, b: 3, c: none)` |
| 13:52:24 | Amun-Ra | ;) |
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| 18:26:51 | FromDiscord | <narimiran> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/JMARTQTN |
| 18:48:39 | Amun-Ra | Your response has been recorded. |
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| 20:35:40 | FromDiscord | <kuxv> is there any method in std similar to findIf() ? i.e. finding an index of an element which matches the predicated passed in? |
| 20:48:26 | FromDiscord | <bostonboston> I don't believe so, but it's not too hard to get your own https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=MvAqCKSk |
| 21:20:38 | FromDiscord | <pmunch> In reply to @Amun-Ra "Your response has been": "Nim will remember that" |
| 21:21:26 | FromDiscord | <pmunch> In reply to @.tokyovigilante "<@392962235737047041> did you know": Finally appears to be back up! |
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| 23:04:09 | FromDiscord | <aintea> I finally can give my opinion on Nim in the survey |
| 23:04:51 | FromDiscord | <aintea> All that waiting only to ask for incremental compilation |
| 23:05:39 | FromDiscord | <aintea> Btw what do you all think about the size of the stdlib ? I'm way too biased by my low experience in programming so I would like to hear some opinions on it |
| 23:37:35 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> All that waiting only to have to wait 10 more years 😄 |