| 00:00:01 | FromDiscord | <TryAngle> ah ok |
| 00:00:01 | FromDiscord | <TryAngle> thanks |
| 00:00:18 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Names dont matter for linking |
| 00:00:25 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> Hello there |
| 00:00:31 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Procedure type just has to be the same |
| 00:00:38 | FromDiscord | <huantian> Hi |
| 00:01:16 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> I'm kinda new to the lang, any projects recommended to start? |
| 00:06:49 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> What's you field of interest? |
| 00:06:52 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> your field\ |
| 00:15:05 | FromDiscord | <ynfle> In reply to @Sun「無用」 "I'm kinda new to": Webapp, Deep learning |
| 00:16:02 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> In reply to @Elegantbeef "What's you field of": none? dunno, lol |
| 00:16:18 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> Ik it's not web. |
| 00:16:23 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> that's all |
| 00:17:25 | FromDiscord | <ynfle> Make a grep clone |
| 00:18:29 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> I'm not as smart as you guys think, lol |
| 00:18:48 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> one said deep learning, other said grep clone T_ |
| 00:21:09 | FromDiscord | <ynfle> Basic grep clone is actually easier than it seems, I think |
| 00:21:39 | FromDiscord | <ynfle> You could make a calculator CLI |
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| 00:27:55 | FromDiscord | <whee> In reply to @Sun「無用」 "I'm kinda new to": do you have any problems that affect you that you think could be solved by an application? |
| 00:28:57 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> In reply to @whee "do you have any": wdym? |
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| 00:40:55 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> Is there a way to enumerate a iterator? |
| 00:41:13 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> `import std/enumerat` `for i, x in enumerate myIterator` |
| 00:41:20 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> `enumerate` even |
| 00:41:33 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Nim does have `pairs` for most common iterator |
| 00:41:55 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=442j |
| 00:42:30 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> erm... what. |
| 00:42:53 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Nim has a `pairs` iterator defined for most common iteration methods |
| 00:43:04 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> pairs is implicitly called when you do `for x, y in ...` |
| 00:43:15 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> `items` is implicitly called when you do `for x in ...` |
| 00:43:39 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Where the `...` is not an iterator but some expression |
| 00:45:24 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> `for idx, line in lines(cliArgs.file):` doesn't work? |
| 00:45:33 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> that's what enumerate is for |
| 00:46:06 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=442k |
| 00:46:10 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> god dammit i cannot type properly todaty |
| 00:46:12 | FromDiscord | <ynfle> (The import should be `import`) |
| 00:46:29 | FromDiscord | <ynfle> How do I generate a .h file when making a dynlib |
| 00:49:21 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> `\n` doesn't work here? |
| 00:49:32 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It does |
| 00:49:45 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> `found.add(fmt"Line {idx}: {line}\n")` this doesn't line break though |
| 00:50:01 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> `fmt` does not work with escapes |
| 00:50:09 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> use `&"..."` instead |
| 00:50:19 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> https://nim-lang.org/docs/strformat.html#nimfmt-vsdot-nimamp |
| 00:50:22 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> and what is that... |
| 00:50:33 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It's identical but works with escaping |
| 00:51:15 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> it's not identical... cause it gave me an error |
| 00:51:42 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> when `fmt` worken |
| 00:51:45 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> (edit) "worken" => "worked" |
| 00:52:19 | FromDiscord | <ynfle> What's the error? |
| 00:52:28 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It compiles fine |
| 00:52:33 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> So you did something wrong |
| 00:52:39 | FromDiscord | <ynfle> In reply to @ynfle "How do I generate": Beef, any idea? |
| 00:52:54 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> genny or the `--header` deprecated option |
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| 00:53:06 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> Literally the same code |
| 00:53:07 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=442n |
| 00:53:16 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> just changed `fmt` for `&` |
| 00:53:27 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> (edit) |
| 00:53:40 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=442o |
| 00:53:43 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It compiles |
| 00:53:52 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> you do have `strformat` imported right? |
| 00:54:17 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> yea. |
| 00:54:37 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> `from strformat import fmt` |
| 00:54:48 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> No you only imported `fmt` |
| 00:55:09 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Nim isnt python so it's generally not suggested to use the `from x import y` syntax unless you have ambiguity |
| 00:55:24 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Most Nim code just does `import mymodule` and goes from there |
| 00:55:46 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> But I don't know where that thing is coming from |
| 00:56:06 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> `&` is defined in `strformat` |
| 00:56:42 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=442p |
| 00:56:46 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/HKQ |
| 00:56:47 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Cool Nim isnt python |
| 00:57:24 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> I've never said it is |
| 00:57:26 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> but okay |
| 00:57:39 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> You can always use the pythonlike if you want |
| 00:58:01 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> But most Nim programmers rarely do selective imports cause it turns out if you use part of a module you want most of it |
| 00:59:21 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Like consider `from strutils import allInSet` you'll probably also want all the top level constants like `Letters, Digits, HexDigits, AllChars, IdentChars, NewLines, Whitespace` |
| 00:59:48 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It's just unneeded noise as Nim is static and tooling can point you where you need t ogo |
| 01:00:22 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> Not my type of importing |
| 01:00:52 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> For your example it wouldnt even compile cause Nim has a Complex type |
| 01:00:59 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I mean it would compile rather |
| 01:01:33 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> In reply to @Elegantbeef "For your example it": from which I have no way of knowing... |
| 01:01:43 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> What? |
| 01:01:46 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=442r |
| 01:02:23 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=442s |
| 01:02:24 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Is it really a mystery what `a` is here? |
| 01:03:05 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> In a small project/file? no. |
| 01:03:07 | FromDiscord | <zhmtzhmt> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=442t |
| 01:03:19 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> In any big thing, yea, people will get lost |
| 01:03:21 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Even in a complex project it's not ambiguous |
| 01:03:29 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Procedures have type annotations |
| 01:03:38 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> So you know what the type is and the operations that operate on it |
| 01:03:51 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> pass `-f` or `--forceBuild`↵(@zhmtzhmt) |
| 01:05:00 | FromDiscord | <zhmtzhmt> It does not make sense to recompile whole project when one file is modified. |
| 01:05:16 | FromDiscord | <zhmtzhmt> No better way? |
| 01:05:23 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=442u |
| 01:05:33 | FromDiscord | <zhmtzhmt> 无用是中国的? |
| 01:06:00 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Error ambiguous `complex`↵(@Sun「無用」) |
| 01:06:54 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Sorry actually it's lacking value |
| 01:06:54 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Error ambiguous `complex` (<@329770603030642689>)": Yep... that can be evicted, though. |
| 01:07:11 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=442v |
| 01:07:18 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> But this is exactly the point |
| 01:07:25 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> If there is ambiguity you use those mechanisms to remove it |
| 01:07:31 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> There is no reason to use them in a vast majority of code |
| 01:07:59 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=442w |
| 01:08:03 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It doesnt compile without the type annotation |
| 01:08:09 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> it compiles fine cause there is no ambiguity |
| 01:08:29 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I didnt realize that `complex` from `std/complex` took floats as i've literally never used it |
| 01:09:04 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> So yes you've introduced visual ambiguity, but the question is "Would anyone actually write this code" |
| 01:09:14 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> If the answer is yes, consider not letting them contribute to your project |
| 01:10:27 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> In reply to @Elegantbeef "it compiles fine cause": and again... no way to know that. |
| 01:10:37 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> What? |
| 01:10:47 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It complies that means there is not ambiguity |
| 01:10:59 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Nim does not compile if there is ambiguity |
| 01:11:17 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> make that `proc complex(real, image: float32)` then attempt to invoke it |
| 01:11:25 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Or should it be `float` |
| 01:12:23 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Ah actually that's wrong again it prefers the procedure from the module that it calls from |
| 01:12:24 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> If you read the code, all you see is 2 functions that have the same name |
| 01:12:27 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> So it's even less confusing |
| 01:12:35 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Cool |
| 01:12:44 | FromDiscord | <Sun「無用」> if you need to run a code to know it works... it's not a good code. |
| 01:12:46 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I was just saying what is idiomatic Nim code |
| 01:12:52 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Lol |
| 01:13:14 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> If you dont like idiomatic Nim code dont write idiomatic Nim |
| 01:13:48 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Nim has static assurance so "if you need to run code to know it works" is the exact opposite of Nim |
| 01:14:11 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> `var a: int = 30f` does not compile, is that "running code" i dont care it's good |
| 01:14:49 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> But in the end you do not have to write idiomatic Nim so feel free not to |
| 01:38:34 | FromDiscord | <j-james> can futhark spit out nim bindings to a file? |
| 01:38:34 | FromDiscord | <j-james> ah, haha |
| 01:38:35 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> https://github.com/beef331/wlroots/commit/1b00de6d148c768ace1a54f8977cecf0036becc2 |
| 01:38:36 | FromDiscord | <j-james> that's exactly the file i was going to test it out on |
| 01:38:36 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It does by default |
| 01:38:37 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Coincidentally i was just going to ping you with "well i got bored" |
| 01:38:37 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Still missing things from utils and more definitions |
| 01:38:37 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It didnt like the unions iirc |
| 01:38:59 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> When futhark runs on code it outputs the generated nim inside `.cache/nim/project_releaseFlag/futhar_@.nim` |
| 01:41:21 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Also if you didnt notice you had some wrong procedure definitions |
| 02:24:09 | FromDiscord | <b1rdf00d> In reply to @dom96 "choosenim almost has support": I saw this last night after doing more reading. Anything that needs a bit of help, or will +1 dev slow it down? |
| 02:28:18 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> It shouldn't hurt if you take on easier tasks first and try to get into the flow of how project is done and maybe help with documentation since that is probably by far the biggest and best thing you could contribute to a project you like. |
| 02:46:45 | FromDiscord | <b1rdf00d> I tracked down my incompatibility between arraymancer and nimraylib_now, nimraylib_now sets this flag `{.passC: "-std=c99".}` which causes the inline `asm` in arraymancer to fail to compile. I'm fairly sure that I didn't run into this on my intel machine but I'll double check |
| 02:50:01 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Are you still using the x86 compiler on your m1? |
| 02:51:25 | FromDiscord | <b1rdf00d> yeah I wanted to debug the problem, if I replace `asm` with `asm` in the c code then it compiles fine with the c99 flag |
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| 03:00:31 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> In reply to @Elegantbeef "https://github.com/beef331/wlroots/commit/1b00de6d1": Nice |
| 03:01:10 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It's not amazing still cannot reimplement tinywl 😛 |
| 03:01:27 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> It'll be exciting when we can |
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| 03:06:55 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> I often wondered if it'd be easier if library provided Json formatted file that kind of guide you on how to generate API for that given library. |
| 03:07:25 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> Most programming languages have some support for Json, so I figured that by letting developer write an output from provided json would save them time from having to bind library manually |
| 03:07:37 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I mean it can be, but futhark works well enough |
| 03:07:48 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> Yeah, just something I've been thinking about for my projects. |
| 03:08:01 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I know godot emits a json mapping |
| 03:08:23 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It's certainly something that makes it easier to get going especially when you have macros |
| 03:22:20 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> Can't wait for godot 4 |
| 03:22:55 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Well if you want to use gdextensions you best get on wrapping it \:P |
| 03:23:21 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> Just a little odd that they're still using Mono for C# |
| 03:23:42 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Luckily no one here would use C# |
| 03:24:11 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> Yeah when 4.0 drops I'll work to get Nim set up with it again |
| 03:24:40 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> Beef do you do any smart home device stuff? |
| 03:27:48 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Yea i have a light switch that has a lever, quite smart |
| 03:28:18 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> Lol |
| 03:28:26 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> Looks like it's very easy to bind to Godot |
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| 03:34:25 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Prestige i dont know if it's evident but i'm quite against IOT and "home automation" |
| 03:34:33 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I dont have anything i need automated nor have wanted automated |
| 03:35:21 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> what about security cams? |
| 03:35:33 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I dont have any |
| 03:35:51 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> but are you against them? |
| 03:35:56 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> I'm going to hard wire mine |
| 03:36:16 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I dont mind the premise of security cameras that work locally or remotely to a privately owned server |
| 03:36:29 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> It's a different experience when you live in a tightly integrated home like tiny house where I live, my floor is heated, so every morning, my computer would check the time and see that it's time for me to get up, the alarm would goes off, roll up the window to let in the light and then heat up the floor, all of this is done automatically every morning. |
| 03:36:33 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I do not like those dumb "rent a camera" solutions people seem to be happily to join |
| 03:36:45 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Ok but tyler i have working hands |
| 03:36:53 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> \:P |
| 03:37:00 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I dont see the benefit in having an electrified home |
| 03:37:12 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I say electrified but i mean automated \:P |
| 03:37:47 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> It just saving time, rather than you having to fiddle with everything or make stuff like coffee, you just have it delivered to you from the get go, so you can spend more time enjoying what you want to enjoy. |
| 03:37:59 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> But i enjoy that stuff |
| 03:38:01 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> So checkmate |
| 03:38:09 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> Fair enough, just not for everyone haha |
| 03:38:25 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It's like living in the moment bruuuuuh, why do you have to complicate the moment |
| 03:38:48 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> If anything, it doesn't really complicate it, because that the point of automation. |
| 03:39:04 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> Yeah I agree |
| 03:39:24 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I mean i was jokingly pretending to be the embodiement of a blunt |
| 03:39:42 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> But i dont mind manually doing stuff, even if it's' reptitive |
| 03:39:56 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> I want to have some code processing live video from my cameras to detect movement |
| 03:40:17 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> and maybe set up a notification service |
| 03:40:51 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Sure that's not automation though that's just cognisant security |
| 03:41:54 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> @Prestige\: Many camera have some level of motion detections, from where I live, I have electric fences to keep bears and wolves away. |
| 03:43:36 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> Still require to have 12 guage shotgun on you out in the wood though |
| 03:44:14 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> I need to get a good rifle for the bears out here |
| 03:44:24 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> can shoot if they're destroying property |
| 03:44:43 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> I would suggest shotgun for that actually, would stop them dead in their track when getting hit by 12 guage |
| 03:46:18 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Until you forgot you went bird hunting and grabbed the bird shot |
| 03:46:30 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> "All i'm doing is pissing him off" |
| 03:47:07 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> "Wait a minute, i still have bear pepper spray, that'll work!" - Gravestone |
| 03:47:44 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> If you want an idea how big of a hole 12 guage would make\: |
| 03:47:53 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> image.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/995899200611024936/image.png |
| 03:47:53 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> Pumpkin didn't do well |
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| 04:03:47 | FromDiscord | <j-james> the TopLevel procedures? they seem to take an XdgSurface in the headers |
| 04:03:54 | FromDiscord | <j-james> which is weird |
| 04:04:02 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Might be a Nim type safety issue then? |
| 04:04:12 | FromDiscord | <j-james> did they not run for you? |
| 04:04:23 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> The compiler didnt like the code |
| 04:04:41 | FromDiscord | <j-james> oh, huh |
| 04:04:56 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Also prestige i swear to what ever diety i believe in, why the hell did you star my fork of wlroots |
| 04:04:59 | FromDiscord | <j-james> i've got some free time tonight to take a look at it |
| 04:05:17 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wlroots/wlroots/-/blob/master/tinywl/tinywl.c#L133 for reference |
| 04:05:19 | FromDiscord | <j-james> i'll play around with your wayland wrappers too 😛 |
| 04:05:35 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Feel free to merge them |
| 04:06:24 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Dont know if i'll get at it more, perhaps with enough back and forth i will |
| 04:06:31 | FromDiscord | <j-james> i was planning on making them separate packages on nimble |
| 04:06:57 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Ah yea makes sense |
| 04:07:00 | FromDiscord | <j-james> although wlroots pretty much is just a part of wayland at this point |
| 04:07:19 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Right now wayland + xkb are the last two needed things i think to get tinywl reimplemented |
| 04:07:43 | FromDiscord | <j-james> what do you think about the Wlr and Wl prefixes, by the way |
| 04:07:48 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I fucking despise them |
| 04:07:59 | FromDiscord | <j-james> there's some overlap, so i can't remove both 🙁 |
| 04:08:23 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I mean you can but it requires prefixing with `wayland` or `wlroots` instead |
| 04:08:44 | FromDiscord | <j-james> yea, which is worse 💀 |
| 04:08:58 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Yea it's a shitty spot |
| 04:09:02 | FromDiscord | <j-james> i think currently all the Wlr prefixes are removed just since there's more of them |
| 04:09:15 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Until you start writing code |
| 04:09:19 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Also prestige i swear": To see if you'd notice and say something about it |
| 04:09:28 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> lol |
| 04:09:55 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Also james is there any reason we cannot make all the Wlroots `ptr object` aswell? |
| 04:10:04 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It makes writing the code much much nicer |
| 04:10:25 | FromDiscord | <j-james> was planning on it |
| 04:10:31 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Ah ok |
| 04:10:50 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I do really wish more libraries did the "bring your own allocator" approach |
| 04:10:56 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Makes life so much nicer |
| 04:11:05 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Miniaudio is fantastic due to this imo |
| 04:11:53 | FromDiscord | <j-james> i'm just not 100% clear on how ptr stuff works |
| 04:12:07 | FromDiscord | <j-james> i just want to avoid calling `addr` on a bunch of stuff |
| 04:12:11 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Well if you have questions ask |
| 04:12:37 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Bring your own allocator is so nice cause you can just use `ref T` |
| 04:13:04 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> But i guess with waylands/design we'd have to `GcUnref` and `GcRef` a lot |
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| 04:13:55 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> The only time the `ptr T` will cut us is if we need to call a proc that takes `T` we need to manually derefernce for it |
| 04:14:11 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> My observation is that they're almost all `ptr T` parameters though |
| 04:14:54 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> Elegantbeef what issues are remaining for the wayland wrapper? |
| 04:14:56 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> They dont explicitly state they're pointers though with an opaque typdef which is a bit odd |
| 04:15:24 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Wayland/s utils and xkb need wrapped |
| 04:15:44 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> And like i said to james even if futhark worked i'd much prefer a concrete API for something like wayland |
| 04:15:50 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> oh I was thinking xcb, what's xkb |
| 04:16:06 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Keyboard handling |
| 04:16:07 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> https://xkbcommon.org/ |
| 04:16:46 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> This font is actually distracting |
| 04:17:02 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> and wtf is this lol https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/995906537300168775/unknown.png |
| 04:17:19 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> greek |
| 04:17:32 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I know it's not what you meant |
| 04:17:37 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> lol |
| 04:18:19 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> The libwayland stuff and xkb is all that's really required for reimplementing tinywl i think |
| 04:19:37 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> Would be nice if we wrote a little document of the features we'd want for the compositor |
| 04:20:39 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Planning before starting a project, the fuck is this |
| 04:21:05 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> Ikr |
| 04:21:29 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> I want to be able to implement the compiz cubes workspaces thing via our plugin system |
| 04:21:30 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> or whatever |
| 04:22:06 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Jeez way to make it difficult |
| 04:23:04 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> I miss the cube |
| 04:24:01 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I was thinking the layout plugin system would be a simple procedure that takes in an array of windows then lays them out |
| 04:24:17 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> hm yeah I think that's good |
| 04:24:38 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> but would be awesome if we also had another way to allow the user to manipulate the compositing |
| 04:24:41 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Thought it might also have to handle the window/focus movement |
| 04:25:31 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I mean is there really a need for something else? |
| 04:25:58 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> maybe fancy animations if they want it |
| 04:26:09 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Well use wayfire |
| 04:26:20 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> I need to read about it |
| 04:26:35 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> wayfire is compiz but for wayland |
| 04:26:50 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I just want to make a dynamtic tiling window manager |
| 04:27:54 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> me too |
| 04:28:24 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> but also allow them to manipulate like, the final render pass |
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| 04:31:06 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Could probably implement custom shaders and userdata for that |
| 04:31:14 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> But i'm speaking out my arse |
| 04:32:22 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> I think you're correct |
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| 04:33:36 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> One thing i do like is a carosel instead of labelled/numbered workspaces |
| 04:34:31 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> meta + monitor number + up to move up the carosel is just a nice API |
| 04:34:49 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> "Application programmer interface" here 😀 |
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| 04:41:25 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> Yeah I like that too |
| 04:41:39 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Fuck i need to wake up, prestige agreeing with me |
| 04:42:06 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Can you say "Multiple inheritance is a mistake" |
| 04:43:13 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> multiple inheritance is nirvana |
| 04:43:24 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Ok so this isnt a fever dream |
| 04:43:33 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> We'll get there one day |
| 04:47:59 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> It would make some gamedev stuff really nice |
| 04:52:22 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> You keep saying that but i've never once felt the need |
| 04:55:59 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> How do you architect your objects? or do you just not make games where things can have shared attributes? |
| 04:56:28 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> So far in Nim I've just had to be very careful to make everything with very shallow inheritance, which works with small games.. mostly |
| 04:56:47 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> In Unity i used EC |
| 04:57:29 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> In Nim I've made specifically designed code for what i'm working on |
| 04:58:57 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxI3Eu5DPwE illustrates the issues I'm facing more |
| 04:59:03 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> pretty good talk |
| 04:59:17 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I'm not talking about ECS |
| 04:59:28 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> EC is a fantastic method of having composition without complexity |
| 04:59:52 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> Yeah the talk isn't on ECS |
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| 05:04:18 | FromDiscord | <j-james> okay, some questions about futhark\:↵what's all the `when not declared()` code, and can i have it not wrap-around lines? |
| 05:04:18 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Isnt this talk going directly into how you'd implement a solution without MI? |
| 05:04:44 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Nope |
| 05:06:16 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Isnt this talk going": Yeah, but I still think it'd be a lot simpler if we had MI |
| 05:06:21 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Lol |
| 05:06:33 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> "Here's a talk that summarizes my issues and proposes solutions that go against my thesis" |
| 05:06:49 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> The futhark when defines is some required wrapping to support futharks capabillities |
| 05:06:49 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> eh they're more work-arounds than anything |
| 05:07:43 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> Idk what you have against MI other than, it could be slow if MI were poorly implemented into the language |
| 05:07:57 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It encourages messy inheritance trees |
| 05:08:25 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> Messy inheritance is already possible |
| 05:08:36 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> but giving programmers tools I think is good |
| 05:08:54 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> I don't want to play with kid scissors |
| 05:09:07 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> I want the sharp dangerous ones |
| 05:09:13 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Sure but i think traits solve the problem better than MI |
| 05:11:14 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> A lot of these inheritance trees are more "I want to have X features implemented but i'll implement them myself" |
| 05:11:42 | FromDiscord | <xflywind> Is there a way to find the cause of higher memory usage of the Nim compiler? |
| 05:13:40 | FromDiscord | <xflywind> Compiling the Nim compiler with orc consumes more(~200 mb) than with refc. |
| 05:14:21 | FromDiscord | <xflywind> `nim c --mm:orc compiler/nim.nim` vs `nim c --mm:refc compiler/nim.nim` |
| 05:17:39 | FromDiscord | <Prestige> I thought orc uses more memory in general for compiling |
| 05:17:59 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I mean that's what they're trying to find why |
| 06:01:16 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> does treeform have a library to swap endianess? I could have sworn I've seen code to do that somewhere |
| 06:01:37 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> `import std/endians` |
| 06:02:40 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> that doesn't work on the js backend or at compile time, right? |
| 06:03:06 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> though I guess it is technically in the standard library |
| 06:09:49 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It does not work there |
| 06:11:48 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> it uses pointers. found the treeform library though, I think it is called binny |
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| 06:12:30 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> binny wont work on js/nimscript either |
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| 06:12:50 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Atleast the swap shouldnt |
| 06:12:58 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> jsbinny should, I should have clarified |
| 06:13:14 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Didnt realize there was a js variant |
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| 06:13:30 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> Yeah, treeform is pretty solid with the JS support |
| 06:13:41 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> though it seems like Pixie doesn't have it yet |
| 06:13:55 | FromDiscord | <huantian> If you’re using pixie in js I’m worried |
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| 06:14:08 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Just use the web canvas |
| 06:14:11 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> the goal isn't to use it in JS, just that it'd be nice if I could use it to decode a PNG for me |
| 06:15:06 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> If you just want that you can probably find a decoder and wrap it in like .3s |
| 06:16:11 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> yep, found it: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/ImageData/data |
| 06:16:43 | FromDiscord | <ajusa> I'll likely just wrap that part with the existing web api, and leave the rest of the logic in Nim |
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| 08:17:49 | FromDiscord | <d4rckh> is there any way i can make this so it doesnt block the while loop? |
| 08:17:56 | FromDiscord | <d4rckh> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=443k |
| 08:18:00 | FromDiscord | <d4rckh> maybe there's a bool indicating if i should or not accept an addr? |
| 08:21:14 | FromDiscord | <d4rckh> like `shouldAccept` or something |
| 08:37:14 | FromDiscord | <dom96> put that loop in an async proc and then run that async proc with `asyncCheck` |
| 08:41:58 | FromDiscord | <lantos> hey @treeform could you please help me with some jsony things? I found some strange behaviour. can I dm you? |
| 08:53:33 | FromDiscord | <d4rckh> In reply to @dom96 "put that loop in": that wouldnt work because acceptAddr still blocks that |
| 08:53:40 | FromDiscord | <d4rckh> i want to close the tcp server while its listening for addreses |
| 08:53:46 | FromDiscord | <d4rckh> (edit) "addreses" => "new connections\" |
| 08:54:26 | FromDiscord | <d4rckh> (edit) "connections\" => "connections" |
| 08:54:47 | FromDiscord | <d4rckh> because i keep getting `Error: unhandled exception: The I/O operation has been aborted because of either a thread exit or ↵an application request.` when i do that |
| 08:54:50 | FromDiscord | <d4rckh> \ |
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| 10:44:50 | FromDiscord | <dom96> In reply to @d4rckh "that wouldnt work because": acceptAddr only "blocks" the async proc its in, if you don't await that async proc then you can do other async IO |
| 10:50:59 | FromDiscord | <d4rckh> In reply to @dom96 "acceptAddr only "blocks" the": but it would still throw that error if i close the tcp server while its await for a new connection? |
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| 12:19:19 | FromDiscord | <laker31> Has anyone else who is on an M1 ran into a similar issue?↵I get the following when trying to compile the [nimx demo code](https://github.com/yglukhov/nimx#usage):↵↵`ld: warning: ignoring file /opt/homebrew/cellar/sdl2/2.0.22/lib/libSDL2.dylib, building for macOS-x86_64 but attempting to link with file built for macOS-arm64` |
| 12:19:28 | FromDiscord | <laker31> (edit) "[nimx" => "nimx" | "code](https://github.com/yglukhov/nimx#usage):↵↵`ld:" => "code(https://github.com/yglukhov/nimx#usage):↵↵`ld:" |
| 12:19:34 | FromDiscord | <laker31> (edit) "code(https://github.com/yglukhov/nimx#usage):↵↵`ld:" => "code (https://github.com/yglukhov/nimx#usage):↵↵`ld:" |
| 12:25:37 | FromDiscord | <HJarausch (HJarausch)> Does anybody know how to contact the developer Menduist. I need to ask him about his recent commit about recursive closure iterators. |
| 12:26:35 | FromDiscord | <xflywind> They are on discord. |
| 12:27:16 | FromDiscord | <laker31> In reply to @HJarausch (HJarausch) "Does anybody know how": See the latest message in #internals |
| 12:30:18 | FromDiscord | <vestel> do spawnpool uses native threads under the hood? |
| 12:45:44 | FromDiscord | <xflywind> In reply to @HJarausch (HJarausch) "Does anybody know how": https://discord.com/channels/371759389889003530/768367394547957761/995970703876685896 |
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| 14:00:04 | NimEventer | New thread by V2a91: How to copy a file to a remote host, let it run, and delete afterwards using wmi (winim/com)?, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/9297 |
| 14:03:15 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> average malware programmer 🤔 |
| 14:06:01 | FromDiscord | <Rika> Sus |
| 14:09:51 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> Particularly weird, definitely would avoid helping this individual |
| 14:12:33 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> does anybody has an open source project which is parsing html? |
| 14:12:58 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> (edit) "does anybody has an open source project which is ... parsingi" added "about" | "aboutparsing html? ... " added "i don't really understand the usage of the std/htmlparser" |
| 14:13:17 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> i mean, its usage is quite simple, it treats DOM exactly the way it is - a tree |
| 14:13:29 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> if you want to search for specific elements easier, there are packages like nimquery |
| 14:14:04 | FromDiscord | <vestel> In reply to @Yardanico "average malware programmer 🤔": Malware programmer would figure this out easily 🙂 |
| 14:14:14 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> In reply to @vestel "Malware programmer would figure": you would think |
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| 14:16:04 | FromDiscord | <Rika> In reply to @vestel "Malware programmer would figure": A good one would |
| 14:17:06 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> In reply to @Yardanico "i mean, its usage": okay, but sadly i have zero experience with those |
| 14:17:14 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> In reply to @Zodey "okay, but sadly i": but what exactly do you want to do? |
| 14:17:21 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> that's why i have no idea how to start |
| 14:17:24 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> I mean, it's not like htmlparser invented it's own way, you should first know what HTML is |
| 14:17:30 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> and it's a hierarchical structure |
| 14:17:39 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> i know |
| 14:17:51 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> there is like <div> </div> |
| 14:17:55 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> so its need to be closed |
| 14:18:11 | FromDiscord | <vestel> In reply to @Rika "A good one would": cmon it's just a simple loader |
| 14:18:23 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> <head> <div> </div> </head> |
| 14:18:24 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> In reply to @vestel "cmon it's just a": a lot of skiddies don't know the most basic stuff |
| 14:18:26 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> something like this |
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| 14:18:59 | FromDiscord | <Rika> I guess “good” is a stretch yeah, but we mainly mean that the average is nearer “bad” than “good” |
| 14:21:41 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> I would refer those people as script kiddie when they display no foundational knowledge.↵(@Rika) |
| 14:22:33 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> In reply to @Zodey "that's why i have": What are you trying to do? |
| 14:22:52 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> i replied in the thread, tried to not appear very rude since it's a bit hurtful when someone accuses you of writing malware out of the blue |
| 14:23:40 | FromDiscord | <vestel> In reply to @Yardanico "i replied in the": Btw could be just a remote deploy |
| 14:23:44 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> In reply to @hotdog "What are you trying": parsing html? 😂 |
| 14:23:47 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> yeah of course I know |
| 14:23:53 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> In reply to @Zodey "parsing html? 😂": well, htmlparser does exactly that |
| 14:24:01 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> the actual question is - what do you want to do with that result? |
| 14:24:20 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> again, since it's a tree, you can traverse it like a nested table or a JsonNode (if you've used those in Nim) |
| 14:24:36 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> just usual indexing, `attrs` and stuff for attributes, `innerText`to get text inside an element |
| 14:25:04 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> so far i just only need 1 data |
| 14:25:11 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> just in a pure string |
| 14:25:14 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> nothing more |
| 14:25:51 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> In reply to @Zodey "parsing html? 😂": Parsing what html and why?\ |
| 14:26:03 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> yes, so you just find out where it is in the structure of the HTML, go there with usual indexing/attribute access, and extract the string |
| 14:26:26 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> maybe it's a bit unclear, but htmlparser gives you a tree of XmlNode s |
| 14:26:27 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> https://nim-lang.org/docs/xmltree.html |
| 14:26:35 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> In reply to @Yardanico "yes, so you just": yeah, but thats the problem, i have no idea how to do that |
| 14:26:46 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> In reply to @Yardanico "https://nim-lang.org/docs/xmltree.html": ohh |
| 14:26:47 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> as I said, you use it almost the same as you'd use the json module |
| 14:26:52 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> indexing for example |
| 14:26:53 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> `[0]` |
| 14:27:05 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> iterating over children with the usual `for` loop |
| 14:28:46 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> The part that sucks is when they change HTML and break your ability to parse it. |
| 14:28:57 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> Or requiring Javascript to load the information first |
| 14:29:19 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> i tried to look at private api |
| 14:29:21 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> @Zodey figure out a query selector that gets that element (you can do this in browser devtools easily) then use https://github.com/GULPF/nimquery to get it |
| 14:29:24 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> It's what I'd do |
| 14:29:30 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> In reply to @Zodey "i tried to look": but not an option in this case |
| 14:30:26 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> In reply to @Yardanico "as I said, you": yeah, sooo i didnt worked with json as well 😅 ↵but give me some time, i will try to do something based what you wrote |
| 14:32:12 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> can i load html from buffer? |
| 14:32:33 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> yes |
| 14:33:46 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> ohh, i need to use something "stream" |
| 14:38:12 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> uhhmm |
| 14:38:19 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> i got it i think |
| 14:38:30 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> but |
| 14:38:36 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> its not supports utf8 |
| 14:39:13 | FromDiscord | <HJarausch (HJarausch)> @xflywind) |
| 14:40:25 | FromDiscord | <xflywind> the internals channel |
| 14:41:32 | FromDiscord | <xflywind> In reply to @HJarausch (HJarausch) "> See the latest": https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/wiki#bridged-real-time-chats |
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| 14:43:30 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @lantos "hey <@107140179025735680> could": Sure, create an issue or some thing, and I will take a look. |
| 14:43:45 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> do you see anything that is obviously slow in this algo?↵https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=444z |
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| 14:44:09 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> some random c version just crushes mine in terms of speed |
| 14:44:44 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> SIMD is probably the factor |
| 14:44:59 | FromDiscord | <Rika> Have you profiled the thing? |
| 14:44:59 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> i see so simd in the c source |
| 14:45:18 | FromDiscord | <treeform> do you have the c version? |
| 14:45:25 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> https://github.com/redvw/mime-encoding |
| 14:46:25 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> image.png↵(@Rika) https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/996064928458866828/image.png |
| 14:46:48 | FromDiscord | <Rika> Weird |
| 14:46:51 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> my encoder is better, since i can just use a const lookup table |
| 14:46:52 | FromDiscord | <Rika> String character addition is slow |
| 14:46:59 | FromDiscord | <treeform> oh I have seen that before |
| 14:47:03 | FromDiscord | <treeform> because you do cap |
| 14:47:13 | FromDiscord | <treeform> you can just do result[i] = char |
| 14:47:15 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> @Rika\: Probably reallocating everytime character is added |
| 14:47:24 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> You need to make sure string is allocated or is a mutable one |
| 14:47:30 | FromDiscord | <Rika> In reply to @treeform "you can just do": Really? That’s cap and not length |
| 14:47:35 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> the issue is, i cannot know beforehand how large the output blows up↵(@treeform) |
| 14:47:36 | FromDiscord | <treeform> no it does not reallocate because of newStringOfCap |
| 14:47:39 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> In reply to @treeform "you can just do": no |
| 14:47:44 | FromDiscord | <Rika> In reply to @tylerlinuxdev "<@259277943275126785>\: Probably reallocating every": No? It’s capacity lreallocated |
| 14:47:47 | FromDiscord | <Rika> Pre allocated |
| 14:47:48 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> you're mistaking `newString` for `newStringOfCap` |
| 14:47:58 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> the former also changes length, the latter doesn't |
| 14:48:02 | FromDiscord | <Rika> In reply to @enthus1ast "the issue is, i": Guesstimate |
| 14:48:05 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> Ok, because seeing that big drop in speed seems odd |
| 14:48:07 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> so for the former you need to use index assignments, while `add` is needed for the latter |
| 14:48:10 | FromDiscord | <treeform> its faster to allocate a big string, then cut the buffer |
| 14:48:24 | FromDiscord | <treeform> then allocate small string and expand it every for loop |
| 14:51:27 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> even if i do a large allocation is about the same |
| 14:51:47 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=444B |
| 14:51:59 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=444B" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=444C" |
| 14:52:50 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> You have to dig a bit further than that, because div[7] would also have it's own div under it, and then you have to go further down to div[11] and so on and so forth... it's all div the way down |
| 14:53:02 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> yeah, ik |
| 14:53:18 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> ohh wait |
| 14:53:20 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> Does API offers XPath selector? |
| 14:53:22 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> do i know? |
| 14:53:39 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> In reply to @tylerlinuxdev "Does API offers XPath": i just copied it from the dev tools in firefox |
| 14:54:07 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @enthus1ast "even if i do": what is your input data to get the timings? |
| 14:54:34 | FromDiscord | <Phil> In reply to @Zodey "okey, this code will": I'm just skimming over the chat, is this for webscraping or are you building your own webpage and have control over how the HTML shall look like? |
| 14:54:52 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> In reply to @Isofruit "I'm just skimming over": just scraping |
| 14:54:57 | FromDiscord | <Phil> Ah, hm |
| 14:55:30 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> i just want to learn it |
| 14:55:32 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> Yeah, Nim probably want to add API for XPath selection |
| 14:55:34 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> not like copy |
| 14:55:41 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=444E |
| 14:55:52 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> (edit) "not like ... copy" added "just use a lib" |
| 14:55:55 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> (edit) removed "copy" |
| 14:55:59 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> @tylerlinuxdev nimquery already has a CSS selector api |
| 14:56:05 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> It's a package in nimble |
| 14:56:14 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> I meant for XML/HTML XPath |
| 14:56:19 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> CSS is different, no? |
| 14:57:07 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @enthus1ast "<@107140179025735680>\: this is my": `quotedPrintables`? |
| 14:57:23 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> and quotedPrintables is this nimble package\: https://github.com/enthus1ast/nimQuotedPrintables |
| 14:57:41 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> but for testing i have patched unQuoted to accept the allocator size |
| 14:57:51 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> @tylerlinuxdev yes it's different, but the usecases are the same in practice |
| 14:58:03 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> You can copy CSS selectors in dev tools as well |
| 14:58:13 | NimEventer | New thread by Hubdev: Creating a vb6 dll compatible and Returning String, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/9298 |
| 14:58:13 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> nimquery just has CSS selectors so I've been using those |
| 14:58:37 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> In reply to @Zodey "okey, this code will": soo, is it correct? |
| 14:59:12 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> Alright, i was looking at ParseHtml and XMLNode API in Nim documentation, so that where I noticed that XPath is absent↵(@Yardanico) |
| 14:59:25 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> In reply to @Zodey "okey, this code will": The most basic way yes |
| 14:59:33 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> oh cool |
| 14:59:40 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> With nimquery you can search for the element itself by some ID or clads |
| 14:59:42 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> okay, i can implement it in a better way i think |
| 14:59:45 | FromDiscord | <Yardanico> (edit) "clads" => "class" |
| 14:59:50 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> i just needed to get in the track xD |
| 14:59:55 | FromDiscord | <treeform> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=444F |
| 15:00:06 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> yeah quite sad |
| 15:00:22 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> thank you very much @Yardanico !↵you dropped this: :nim1: |
| 15:00:32 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> Got it, wasn't aware of all of the libraries for Nim↵(@Yardanico) |
| 15:00:43 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @enthus1ast "yeah quite sad": Your input has no `=` ? |
| 15:01:22 | FromDiscord | <treeform> sorry I was wrong |
| 15:01:23 | FromDiscord | <treeform> nvm |
| 15:01:53 | FromDiscord | <tylerlinuxdev> NimQuery would solve the issue |
| 15:09:47 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @enthus1ast "yeah quite sad": ok got it from 0.363 ms to 0.296 ms using the cut string at the end trick |
| 15:10:44 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> What's that? |
| 15:13:18 | FromDiscord | <treeform> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=444M |
| 15:13:49 | FromDiscord | <treeform> I think the str can never be smaller then output because hex so big compared to char |
| 15:17:58 | FromDiscord | <treeform> not using `skipWhile` takes another 0.20ms off |
| 15:20:12 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> just skip then? |
| 15:29:44 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=444P |
| 15:30:09 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=444Q |
| 15:31:27 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> i've created a macro that also builds a string table for 2 byte hex, in isolation it is faster then parseHex (nearly twice as fast) but when i stuck it in my algo it was horrible slow, prolly did something wrong |
| 15:43:49 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> In reply to @Zodey "okey, this code will": its not good |
| 15:44:08 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> it shouldn't be done like that |
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| 15:53:47 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @enthus1ast "just skip then?": I think I got nim beating C now, will clean this up |
| 15:54:28 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> nice, eager to see it↵(@treeform) |
| 15:54:43 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> (my fastes version, is faster, but incorrect ...) |
| 15:56:28 | FromDiscord | <treeform> I would have to make more tests to check for errors |
| 15:57:01 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> i'll build a small testsuite anyhow↵(@treeform) |
| 15:58:00 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> In reply to @hotdog "<@460785667820224512> figure out a": how can i get the query selector? |
| 16:06:21 | FromDiscord | <gibson> Why is there no osx binary for download on the nim site? I've tried searching for this answer, and asked before without answer. Just curious, but also it would make my life easier when I start people on nim. Yes, choosenim is also great. |
| 16:07:05 | FromDiscord | <gibson> If it's a PR to update some autobuild YAML I could probably do that. |
| 16:12:41 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> In reply to @Zodey "how can i get": You need to find a unique combination of id, class, parent etc |
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| 16:13:04 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> If you post a link to the html I can try to find it for you |
| 16:13:32 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> i wont learn it in that way |
| 16:17:37 | FromDiscord | <treeform> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4452 |
| 16:17:48 | FromDiscord | <treeform> 0.086 ms with mine doing 0.073 ms |
| 16:18:01 | FromDiscord | <treeform> But there is probably error case I don't check? Test suite would help |
| 16:25:45 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> @treeform\: nice |
| 16:26:15 | FromDiscord | <System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> can std/json parse arrays of strings? |
| 16:26:29 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> Currently the only tests exist are the ones in the repo |
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| 16:27:18 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @enthus1ast "<@107140179025735680>\: nice": https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4455 |
| 16:27:28 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> https://github.com/enthus1ast/nimQuotedPrintables/blob/6f8899449e07e59e9c8ccbcd9a3afc5b6e3e492b/src/quotedPrintables.nim#L58 |
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| 16:29:56 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> @treeform\: I'm unsure if testing for 13 10 is robust between the systems, I can imagine it isnt |
| 16:30:34 | FromDiscord | <treeform> I don't know what the spec is |
| 16:30:47 | FromDiscord | <treeform> your only did 13 and 10 and 10 and 13? |
| 16:30:52 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> In reply to @Zodey "i wont learn it": Open browser devtools and in the console use document query selector https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Document/querySelector |
| 16:30:57 | FromDiscord | <treeform> I don't think any one uses 10 13 |
| 16:31:12 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> Figure out a query that returns your required element |
| 16:31:20 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> You can then use that with nimquery |
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| 16:33:17 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> You’ll need to read up on some html stuff to figure out how to do the queries @Zodey |
| 16:33:39 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> In reply to @hotdog "You’ll need to read": thank you |
| 16:33:42 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> But only 10 in case of unix↵(@treeform) |
| 16:33:51 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @enthus1ast "<@107140179025735680>\: nice": Next optimization might be reading in 64 chunks instead of one char at a time, then doing writing in 64 chunks |
| 16:34:40 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @enthus1ast "But only 10 in": Supporting 10 is easy to add but I though this email? stuff was always windows ending in the spec |
| 16:34:58 | FromDiscord | <treeform> Does the C version do it? |
| 16:35:03 | FromDiscord | <treeform> Every branch has a cost |
| 16:35:17 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> In reply to @Zodey "thank you": No problem, if you have any questions please ask |
| 16:36:05 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> True, I don't know exactly↵(@treeform) |
| 16:36:58 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @enthus1ast "True, I don't know": I think really old power pc os9 Macs did just 13? |
| 16:38:43 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> hey: i get some crashes for createthread if i use the developer compiler commit 8a344 from 28 6 2022 |
| 16:38:49 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> (edit) "createthread" => "createThread" |
| 16:39:10 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> it often seems to crash with SIGSEGV like that: |
| 16:39:37 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @enthus1ast "True, I don't know": Skipping ord now I get `0.068 ms` way faster then C |
| 16:40:10 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> https://gist.github.com/alehander92/d40c572b8b92458476ccd1350c4ba2fb |
| 16:40:42 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> (using `--mm:refc --threads:on` and others) |
| 16:40:51 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> is this something that happens to anyone else? |
| 16:41:25 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> i dont understand how thrd->dataFn becomes NULL |
| 16:41:40 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> @treeform\: yes crlf |
| 16:41:45 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @enthus1ast "True, I don't know": support for unix single 10 costs 0.010 ms |
| 16:42:04 | FromDiscord | <treeform> like more then 10% of the run time |
| 16:44:01 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=445d |
| 16:46:40 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @enthus1ast "<@107140179025735680>\: yes crlf": best I got: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=445e |
| 16:47:37 | FromDiscord | <treeform> Nim version 23% faster then C version |
| 16:47:47 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> @treeform wow |
| 16:47:52 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> i think this https://discord.com/channels/371759389889003530/371759389889003532/6663045138161336i62 |
| 16:47:56 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> worked around it |
| 16:47:57 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> ?! |
| 16:48:11 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> i created a global array of threads |
| 16:48:17 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> and using them instead of a local variable seems to fix it (?) |
| 16:48:55 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> is this because dropping the local variable is a problem(or because its memory isnt available somehow to the thread clone) |
| 16:48:59 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> (edit) "thread clone)" => "threaded code)" |
| 16:51:11 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> this explains it all, also my other crashes |
| 16:51:15 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> (edit) "this explains it all, also my other ... crashes" added "createThread" |
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| 16:53:23 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> In reply to @treeform "I am getting really": sorry tried to link this message ^ |
| 16:54:21 | FromDiscord | <treeform> yeah nim's threads are strange |
| 16:54:58 | FromDiscord | <treeform> I try to solve some problems here https://github.com/treeform/thready it is still open research |
| 16:56:38 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> In reply to @Zodey "is it looks like": damm https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/996097701223612427/unknown.png |
| 16:56:48 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> In reply to @Zodey "is it looks like": Yeah something like that. You probably want to find a query that’s a bit simpler as it will be more robust. It looks like google there is using some obfuscated class names that probably will change in the future |
| 16:57:19 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> In reply to @Zodey "damm": Have you added nimquery to your nimble deps? |
| 16:57:26 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> And installed it obviously |
| 16:57:29 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> i installed it |
| 16:57:33 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> but didnt added |
| 16:57:40 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> can you help me with that? ;D |
| 16:57:55 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> Sure, do you have a .nimble file in your project? |
| 16:58:01 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> yup |
| 16:58:17 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> In there you should have some lines that start with “require” |
| 16:59:15 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> yeah, the dependencoes |
| 16:59:19 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> (edit) "dependencoes" => "dependencies" |
| 16:59:26 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> You need to add a line, something like this ‘requires "nimquery >= 1.0"’ |
| 16:59:40 | FromDiscord | <acca> whats nim |
| 16:59:42 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> Insert the proper version number |
| 17:00:00 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> In reply to @acca "whats nim": https://nim-lang.org |
| 17:00:41 | FromDiscord | <acca> wow |
| 17:01:43 | FromDiscord | <ezquerra> In reply to @treeform "I try to solve": How does thready compare to nim-tasks and weave? |
| 17:02:00 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> In reply to @hotdog "Insert the proper version": succeed, now i just need to get the right selector 😅 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/996099047926530138/unknown.png |
| 17:02:01 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @ezquerra "How does thready compare": I don't know |
| 17:02:24 | FromDiscord | <treeform> Mine only has 3 functions? |
| 17:02:35 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> In reply to @treeform "I try to solve": thank you |
| 17:02:42 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> i use refc tho |
| 17:02:54 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> it seems i have some problems with arc/orc and strings |
| 17:03:05 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> but otherwise your api seems well thought |
| 17:03:32 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> In reply to @Zodey "succeed, now i just": Nice 🙂 what happens if you just use “.SwHCTb:first-child”? |
| 17:03:47 | FromDiscord | <ezquerra> I think mratsim proposed a common interface that different threading libraries could support so that you could choose among different backends? I don’t really I own the details but Am interested in the topic… |
| 17:04:36 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> In reply to @hotdog "Nice 🙂 what happens": it outputs nothing |
| 17:04:50 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> but np |
| 17:04:56 | FromDiscord | <Zodey> i will try experimenting with it |
| 17:06:42 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @alehander42 "but otherwise your api": My main goal is: "Threading is complex, that is the simplest/non invasive threading one can do?" |
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| 17:11:30 | FromDiscord | <retkid> dumb idea |
| 17:11:34 | FromDiscord | <retkid> i want a circular cache like seq |
| 17:11:43 | FromDiscord | <retkid> is this already a thing |
| 17:13:49 | FromDiscord | <retkid> delete(0) . add() |
| 17:14:19 | FromDiscord | <Phil> Why circular? |
| 17:14:33 | FromDiscord | <retkid> idk i just want to have the last 10 |
| 17:15:39 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> @treeform\: this is a cool trick\:↵`num = cast[uint8](ch) - cast[uint8]('0')` |
| 17:15:54 | FromDiscord | <treeform> need for speed |
| 17:16:00 | FromDiscord | <Phil> 10 entries in the seq? You could make distinct seq and change the procs that manipulate the sequence to take that into account |
| 17:16:28 | FromDiscord | <retkid> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=445n |
| 17:16:33 | FromDiscord | <retkid> see |
| 17:17:01 | FromDiscord | <Phil> Ah, explicitly float 32, not generally |
| 17:17:07 | FromDiscord | <acca> guys hoa hack alien ship |
| 17:17:29 | FromDiscord | <retkid> In reply to @Isofruit "Ah, explicitly float 32,": well we just have a very specific use |
| 17:17:41 | FromDiscord | <retkid> i dont know why else i would want thtis |
| 17:17:53 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> @treeform i would use your code in the repo ok? |
| 17:18:04 | FromDiscord | <treeform> ofc I made that for you |
| 17:18:18 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> thank you \:) |
| 17:19:23 | FromDiscord | <Phil> In reply to @retkid "i dont know why": Either way, why not just makea type alias and define your own "add" and"new" procs for it? |
| 17:20:36 | FromDiscord | <Phil> Under the covers it then still is a seq etc, but you can treat it there must always be 10 entries inside of it |
| 17:21:18 | FromDiscord | <alehander42> In reply to @treeform "My main goal is:": makes sense |
| 17:21:22 | FromDiscord | <Phil> And all your logic as to where that stuff comes from can be tied into procs for this alias type |
| 17:22:56 | FromDiscord | <retkid> i dont really need much of anything |
| 17:23:12 | FromDiscord | <retkid> like yea, maybe if i had more than 1 use |
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| 17:47:35 | NimEventer | New thread by EnteryName: 'go to declaration' for nim extension (JetBrains), see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/9299 |
| 17:49:06 | FromDiscord | <Lanky Lemur> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=445s |
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| 17:54:50 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> In reply to @Lanky Lemur "Is there a way": Something like this I suppose: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=445v |
| 17:55:11 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> In reply to @acca "guys hoa hack alien": `import std/hackingtools` |
| 17:59:17 | FromDiscord | <Lanky Lemur> Damn, that looks pretty cursed |
| 17:59:19 | FromDiscord | <Lanky Lemur> Thank you |
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| 18:02:33 | FromDiscord | <hotdog> @Lanky Lemur check out iterators in the manual - https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#iterators-and-the-for-statement-firstminusclass-iterators |
| 18:12:45 | FromDiscord | <huantian> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=445A |
| 18:40:41 | FromDiscord | <ripluke> In reply to @NimEventer "New thread by EnteryName:": Nimlsp |
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| 19:46:58 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=445Z |
| 19:47:12 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=445Y |
| 19:50:43 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @enthus1ast "now i'm at optimizing": You might go faster by not using a lookup table. I love tables, but hex digit stuff is very fast. You are trading off CPU speed vs RAM/cache occupation speed. |
| 19:51:13 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> mhh |
| 19:51:28 | FromDiscord | <treeform> Your lookup table will make it into cache, but then other stuff will not. |
| 19:51:38 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> worth a try |
| 19:51:39 | FromDiscord | <treeform> its a balance |
| 19:51:53 | FromDiscord | <treeform> my hunch bit stuff will be faster |
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| 19:53:04 | FromDiscord | <jan0809> sup |
| 19:53:17 | FromDiscord | <jan0809> your what |
| 19:55:21 | FromDiscord | <treeform> In reply to @enthus1ast "now i'm at optimizing": oh another one here `array[256, string] ` you are using for encode table, it might be faster to use tuple of two chars instead `array[256, (char, char)]` as strings give you another indirection. |
| 19:58:30 | FromDiscord | <treeform> Another one your string `result = newString( ... str.len 3 )` is huge. If its going to live for a long time its roughly x3 what it needs to be on avg. You might want to copy/slice it to a different smaller string. But it it will live for a short time not doing that is faster. |
| 19:59:30 | FromDiscord | <treeform> Basically you can "leak memory" by always allocating x3 buffers on avg then what you need. |
| 20:01:27 | FromDiscord | <treeform> what is the C speed on this? Are you beating it? |
| 20:01:45 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> the lib i've used before has no encode unfortunately |
| 20:02:00 | FromDiscord | <treeform> then you are always faster 🙂 |
| 20:02:05 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> \:) |
| 20:02:38 | FromDiscord | <enthus1ast> i think, since it could be part of an application, i should slice the string |
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| 20:20:53 | FromDiscord | <treeform> in order not to allocate too much you could use like 4k buffers |
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| 20:20:59 | FromDiscord | <treeform> but I don't know if it matters |
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| 20:45:54 | bigbyt | does nim have a django yet? |
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| 20:54:29 | matt_13377 | it has web frameworks. |
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| 21:06:20 | FromDiscord | <vestel> Are there any GUI nim debuggers or I am forced to use gdb/x64dbg? |
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| 21:17:04 | FromDiscord | <dom96> bigbyt: nope. |
| 21:17:23 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> https://github.com/rohanrhu/gdb-frontend does work |
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| 21:26:21 | FromDiscord | <vestel> In reply to @Elegantbeef "https://github.com/rohanrhu/gdb-frontend does work": Thanks |
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| 21:43:41 | FromDiscord | <Zeantar> Hello. I'm new in Nim and how I can start cmd process so it will not block main thread? |
| 21:43:53 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> `osproc.startProcess` |
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| 21:44:47 | FromDiscord | <Zeantar> Hello. I'm new in Nim and how I can start cmd process so it will not block main thread?↵I need to start webdriver server so I will be able to send requests to this server in code. |
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| 21:46:23 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> The answer doesnt change |
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| 22:30:05 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> what would be the way to somehow assign a procedure to be called, to a certain key in a table let's say. I have this code: |
| 22:30:12 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=446v |
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| 22:30:47 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> you could have a `Table[string, proc(tsv, key: string)]` |
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| 22:31:01 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> and I have a custom procedure depending on the key. I'd like to get rid of the case statement, do the (not present in the code - create db schema), download procedure, and import procedure. |
| 22:31:05 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> so I only have to do one call |
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| 22:31:14 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> (edit) "procedure." => "procedure, all in one proc" |
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| 22:32:31 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> and how exactly would I assign a value in this case? |
| 22:32:37 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=446w |
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| 22:33:18 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=446x |
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| 22:34:22 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> hah this I have not considered, to add the download part to it (which is universal for all keys) |
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| 22:34:42 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> I was thinking to add just the custom proc to the proc table, and then have another proc to call all 3 of them |
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| 22:35:18 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> otherwise I'd have to repeat import_schema(key); downloadImdbTSV(key), importwhatever(key) |
| 22:35:23 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> for each key in the myProcTable |
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| 22:37:42 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> from where do you copy the nim code so that it ends up coloured here? |
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| 22:38:05 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It's the same as markdown |
| 22:38:22 | FromDiscord | <huantian> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=446y |
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| 22:38:54 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> yeah well i did the 3x `, copied it from vscodium where it's coloured, but not here |
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| 22:39:16 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> (edit) "yeah well i did the 3x `, copied it from vscodium where it's coloured, but ... notcoloured" added "it's" | "it'snot ... here(discord)" added "coloured" | "notcolouredhere ... " added "(discord)" |
| 22:39:23 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> ohhhh |
| 22:39:23 | FromDiscord | <huantian> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=446z |
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| 22:40:10 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I like that it was highlighted fine over here in element |
| 22:40:23 | FromDiscord | <huantian> yeah I think element has auto language detection |
| 22:40:31 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It does indeed |
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| 22:40:50 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Open source software only copies proprietary software -jblow |
| 22:41:03 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> Ok, so elegantness opinion. Have just 1 proc defined in the myProcTable for each key (the custom one), and have an extra proc to bundle the 3 total needed procs to be ran, so I only have one line in the end ? |
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| 22:41:30 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> or have them all 3 defined to be called for each key in myProcTable ? |
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| 22:41:42 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> there's seven of them, so that would be... 21 |
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| 22:42:25 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It's up to you, if you want multiple tables you can, if you want a single table you can |
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| 22:43:00 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> what would Elegantbeef nimjesus do ? |
| 22:43:05 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> You also could have a `(proc(s: string), proc(a, b: string))` |
| 22:43:08 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I mean it's up to you |
| 22:43:12 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I dont know what i'd do |
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| 22:43:25 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I only pretend i can write Nim i dont design things 😛 |
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| 22:44:43 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> In reply to @Elegantbeef "You also could have": what's this ?a proc tuple ? |
| 22:44:49 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Yes |
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| 22:45:15 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> I have never considered this possible. How would it work ? |
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| 22:45:29 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> The same way as the above you just manually call each |
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| 22:46:16 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/S5c |
| 22:46:21 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> whoops should be `(a, b)` |
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| 22:47:12 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> It's not really any better, just giving options |
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| 22:50:19 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> what if I don't want an anonymous function in the table that calls whatever_import(db,key), can I have like a pointer to the actual proc itself? |
| 22:50:26 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> (edit) "function" => "proc" |
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| 22:50:34 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> That's what the tuple solution gives you |
| 22:50:42 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> In Nim all procs are pointer procs |
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| 22:50:47 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Or rather can be |
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| 22:51:51 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=446B |
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| 22:52:20 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> I guess I haven't really understood this assignment |
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| 22:52:27 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> ` let (a, b) = procTable[key]` |
| 22:52:29 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> what happens here ? |
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| 22:53:13 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> You unpack the tuple |
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| 22:53:38 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> So you get `(myProcTable[key][0], myProcTable[key][1])` |
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| 22:53:47 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Without the double access |
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| 22:54:14 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> huh.. and what is the [0], [1] supposed to be ? |
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| 22:54:19 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> which procs |
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| 22:54:34 | FromDiscord | <Rika> The first one in the tuple you got |
| 22:54:36 | FromDiscord | <Rika> The second |
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| 22:55:46 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> The first and second element of a tuple |
| 22:55:46 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> fieldless tuples use array access to get fields |
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| 22:55:52 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=446D |
| 22:56:11 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> ok this makes sense but |
| 22:56:19 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=446E |
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| 22:56:24 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> I thought I only had one element for a key |
| 22:56:34 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> what are the [0], and [1], in this case? |
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| 22:56:46 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> `myProcTable["title.basics.tsv.gz"] = (downloadImDbTsv, importMoviesTitles)` |
| 22:56:54 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Is the alterntaive to a pointer proc |
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| 22:57:06 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I mean anonymous |
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| 22:57:19 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> ahhh so you mean it to be written in that form |
| 22:57:44 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> ok that doesn't look so bad |
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| 23:24:59 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> one more thing. for each key(string) I have a certain sql query I use to create a database table. Now the queries are stored in the source file. How would you store them in a separate file so that they can easily be matched/retrieved by "key" ? |
| 23:25:01 | FromDiscord | <voidwalker> An ini file maybe? |
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| 23:44:04 | ad-absurdum | I was trying to run the very first graphics examples from the beginning of the new Mastering Nim book. The pixels library seemed to install without problems, and the example program compiled, but when I ran it I got: |
| 23:44:33 | ad-absurdum | libSDL2.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 23:44:39 | ad-absurdum | could not load: libSDL2.so |
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| 23:46:00 | ad-absurdum | I have a recent version of SDL2 installed (Debian Linux), and libSDL2.so is in the /usr/local/lib/ directory, so I don't understand what the problem here is. Does anyone have any ideas? |
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| 23:57:41 | FromDiscord | <zhmtzhmt> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=446N |
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| 23:59:24 | FromDiscord | <zhmtzhmt> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=446O |
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