| 00:04:19 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> occasional `WebSocket connection to 'ws://127.0.0.1:8083/' failed: Invalid frame header`of karax/jwebsockets , is there any reason? |
| 00:28:52 | FromDiscord_ | <exelotl> oh I think I got it, when you import in panicoverride the majority of `system` module features haven't been defined yet, at the point where panicoverride is inserted |
| 00:30:24 | FromDiscord_ | <exelotl> anyways here's my GBA wrapper if anyone is interested! https://github.com/exelotl/nim-tonc |
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| 01:35:26 | FromDiscord_ | <exelotl> cc @hcorion |
| 01:38:59 | FromDiscord_ | <hcorion> Very cool! How are you finding Nim's perf for gba, it have you not experimented with that kind of thing yet |
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| 01:43:28 | FromDiscord_ | <exelotl> I haven't experimented too much but I've found that you can get it to output very straightforward and readable C code with the right compiler flags and by spamming the {.noinit.} pragma |
| 01:46:18 | FromDiscord_ | <exelotl> I should make some better examples though, the framework can do so much more than hello world xD |
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| 03:19:39 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> trying to fix / update the playground |
| 03:19:50 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> digital ocean ubuntu box is saying the disk is full - but not according to df -h |
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| 03:21:45 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> ah INodes are full |
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| 05:53:36 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> playground is running 0.19.0 which was the latest docker image I could find |
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| 06:44:27 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> Is there a usable websocket server example with jwesockets of Karax? |
| 06:49:57 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> the example server in websocket.nim and ormin doesn't work properly with jwebsockets . |
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| 08:59:16 | FromDiscord_ | <aleks-ooo> Sex dating Discord > http://discord.amazingsexdating.com |
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| 09:54:01 | leorize | What's with the discord ads? |
| 09:59:32 | Calinou | it's an ongoing attack on all Discord servers |
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| 11:03:42 | aguspiza | so that's why it works on my nim compiler built |
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| 12:58:25 | Zevv | Zah just asked me to provide a test case for a PR I made - where do I add tests, and how do I run these locally without running the complete 40 minutes test suite? |
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| 13:03:39 | Araq | add it an existing test covering the feature you enhanced |
| 13:03:53 | Araq | and test the categories that apply |
| 13:03:58 | Araq | via |
| 13:04:11 | Araq | testament\tester cat macros |
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| 13:07:15 | Zevv | ok |
| 13:09:24 | Zevv | that was easy, thanks |
| 13:10:10 | Araq | testament is documented in our contributors guidelines iirc |
| 13:10:40 | Zevv | I'll look into that |
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| 13:15:16 | Zevv | Yes, all there in the doc, sorry for the noise. |
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| 14:47:13 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> Can jwebsockets work in long connection mode? I found our earlier usage cases are all transient connection. |
| 14:48:09 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> It doesn't work properly in long connection mode. |
| 14:48:46 | Araq | it's a thin wrapper about what the browser offers |
| 14:49:01 | Araq | and I don't understand what "long connection mode" means |
| 14:49:54 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> means a global opened websocket handle, sending requests. |
| 14:51:50 | Araq | you mean stored in a global var? |
| 14:52:24 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> yes |
| 14:54:59 | Araq | I dunno, sounds ok, the karax client connects to one server via a connection stored in a global |
| 14:55:17 | Araq | maybe you got the init order wrong |
| 14:58:11 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> same thought , my usage case is opening a global karax client and set different onmessage callback before sending different requests. |
| 15:06:36 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> but occasionally got invalid frame header , then I changed to short connection mode just now, it works but I'm trying to avoid handshakes of each new websocket connection. |
| 15:07:40 | Araq | make sure your Nim server uses the latest websockets version |
| 15:09:54 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> confirmed. |
| 15:11:24 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> BTW, it's outdated in nimble package meta data. |
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| 15:16:20 | FromGitter | <Vindaar> @Araq @gogolxdong woah, so there actually was a bug in websocket when creating large packages? I thought it was my browser not liking huge packages. That simplifies things a lot :) |
| 15:21:03 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> I met huge data problem couple of months before, sending binary protobuf data which was truncated. Don't know how it going. Not sure they are related or not, at least error is the same, invalid frame header. |
| 15:26:47 | FromGitter | <gogolxdong> seems I was misled during previous jobs, long connection should be keep-alive connection or persistent connection. |
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| 16:41:54 | absolutejam_phon | Are there any recommended high level ncurses modules? |
| 16:46:58 | xace | absolutejam_phon: not that im sure of, i'm currently suppose to work on a project that's suppose to use ncurses/termbox, and i'm not a fan of it atm... the nim ncurses lib seem to be a simple wrapper, while the termbox lib seems to be a higher quality wrapper for nim... sadly termbox has its own unique dependencies... |
| 16:47:49 | leorize | but termbox can be linked statically :) |
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| 17:04:40 | xace | no idea atm, i recall it being dependant on something that required waf or some python based build system that broke during the 3.7 release or w/e... this project hasn't been very enticing, so i'm working on it very slowly... though i feel like ncurses is more widely spread than termbox in terms of dependencies, but termbox seems to be a simplified version with better design... I feel like to actually make |
| 17:04:46 | xace | something with it I should probably spend a minute or two to design the program first rather then coding it in the spur of the moment |
| 17:06:28 | FromGitter | <zetashift> termbox also sadly doesn't work on windows :( |
| 17:07:18 | xace | zetashift, hah, yeah but then I realised, my experience of terminals in windows isn't appealing at all... |
| 17:08:07 | FromGitter | <zetashift> well the termbox not supporting window is a thing in the C implementation nothing the Nim version can really change about that |
| 17:09:31 | Calinou | tcell apps work quite well on Windows in my experience, but it's a Go library |
| 17:10:21 | FromGitter | <zetashift> termbox-go does support Windows too but that also is a Go library :P |
| 17:13:42 | FromGitter | <zetashift> depending on your needs bearlibterminal might be a viable option |
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| 17:28:45 | absolutejam_phon | Sorry, DCd but thanks for your reply xace |
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| 17:33:41 | absolutejam_phon | I saw the nim_ |
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| 17:34:30 | absolutejam_phon | nim-ncurses library but it looked like low level wrspper and i had no idea where to stary |
| 17:34:33 | absolutejam_phon | Start |
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| 18:26:03 | FromGitter | <sotrhRaven> What does functional code look like in nim. Also is it difficult to embed a python and or lua interpreter? |
| 18:26:28 | narimiran | sth.map(f1).filter(bool) |
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| 18:27:35 | Zevv | embedding lua is pretty trivial, the lua api is plain C with a pretty simple interface |
| 18:27:56 | Zevv | it's stack based, so it takes some effort to get your head around how to get the proper data in or take it out |
| 18:28:02 | Araq | lua.nim is in the official wrappers iirc |
| 18:28:03 | xace | sotrhRaven: functional code as in functional programming paradigm? in regard to python i just `import nimpy` and var numpy = pyImport("numpy") |
| 18:28:04 | Zevv | but thats also in C, not a nim thing |
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| 18:30:51 | FromGitter | <sotrhRaven> I am thinking of trying to make a modal editor like vim with an interpreted config extension language like emacs just not elisp. |
| 18:31:41 | skellock | jester question: is there an option to specify the number threads? my current options seem to be --threads:off or --threads:on and then I get 8 (1 per core). |
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| 18:37:23 | FromGitter | <sotrhRaven> @xace yes as in the paradigm |
| 18:38:20 | xace | sotrhRaven, afaik it doesn't have it build in, but you could potentially implement it as a macro if you hate life |
| 18:39:13 | xace | skellock: --threads:on /off is only meant for enabling thread support. implementing how many threads/cores being used is something you specify in the code |
| 18:39:48 | FromGitter | <sotrhRaven> Lol imperative is 👌 |
| 18:40:22 | xace | unfortunately i haven't messed around with jester yet as i need to find a method to wrap jester-apps with SSL, and my servers dont have enough RAM to run nginx so I need a very low ram usage SSL reverse tunnel or w/e you call it |
| 18:42:14 | xace | sotrhRaven: :) well the `nimpy` library works fine to me and is relatively simple to use... there is a nim-based modal editor if you are interested: https://github.com/fox0430/moe # or `nimble install moe` |
| 18:44:27 | shashlick | bearlibterminal looks interesting |
| 18:45:00 | skellock | xace: make sense, thx for the reply |
| 18:45:56 | xace | shashlick: does it also run in regular terminals ? or is it a standolne type of thing |
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| 18:46:52 | shashlick | never used it xace, but i guess it should |
| 18:49:10 | shashlick | nimterop works nicely on the header |
| 18:50:21 | shashlick | toast -n -p BearLibTerminal.h => http://ix.io/1yg2 |
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| 18:52:55 | skellock | shashlick: sweet baby jesus, that's pretty awesome... does it work too? |
| 18:53:53 | absolutejam_phon | Ive never heard of bearlibterm but it looks awesome |
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| 18:54:31 | absolutejam_phon | Would i have to compile my project to c++ to use it though? |
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| 18:55:17 | absolutejam_phon | Oo https://github.com/zacharycarter/blt-nim/blob/master/examples/test.nim |
| 18:55:27 | shashlick | shellock - nim check passes |
| 18:55:41 | shashlick | but still need to verify that it actually does the right thing 🙂 |
| 18:56:39 | skellock | xace: [followup] it's httpbeast that sets it up -- and it works exactly how you just said; just diy -- thx again! https://github.com/dom96/httpbeast/blob/754a3ce2c5da7a2deff10ceaa3d88df733f3473d/src/httpbeast.nim#L396-L401 |
| 18:57:16 | shashlick | absolutejam_phon - oh nice @zacharycarter has already wrapped it |
| 19:00:51 | Araq | shashlick: I fixed Nimscript exception handling btw |
| 19:02:26 | shashlick | ya I saw that - thanks for doing that! need to come back to my editor project |
| 19:03:11 | shashlick | spent the last few days on nimterop - it's pretty good now |
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| 19:11:48 | FromGitter | <sotrhRaven> Moe looks interesting |
| 19:12:00 | Zevv | I'm still a bit confused about tuple field names, they feel a bit like second class citizens: |
| 19:12:17 | Zevv | - I can define a proc that returns anonymous tuples, but I can not define a type |
| 19:12:25 | Zevv | - repr just ignores tuple field names |
| 19:12:51 | Zevv | - I can create a type with one unnamed field only, like so: type A = tuple[int, b:int, c:string] |
| 19:12:56 | Zevv | Is there something obvious I am missing? |
| 19:15:25 | shashlick | Araq: is there any reason we do 3 iterations in koch boot? |
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| 19:16:04 | Araq | Zevv: they are second class by design |
| 19:16:32 | Araq | shashlick: there is some proof that a fixpoint is always computed after 3 iterations |
| 19:16:43 | Araq | (if there is a fixpoint, that is) |
| 19:17:59 | Zevv | Oh that explains. I just read "Araq mentioned in a pull request that named tuples might be removed from the language." in the forum (old message, feb 2017). Is that still relevant? |
| 19:18:51 | shashlick | Araq: is it okay to do just a single iteration on local machines during dev? |
| 19:19:43 | shashlick | nimscript exceptions work! |
| 19:31:45 | FromDiscord_ | <j$> Im trying to get the ordinal value of an enum inside a macro, but I cant see mto figure out how to access the actual enum |
| 19:32:52 | FromDiscord_ | <j$> I can pass in the ordinal value, but i'd prefer to pass in the enum |
| 19:34:07 | Araq | j$ I think n.intVal gives you the value |
| 19:34:21 | Araq | Zevv: no but they will remain crippled |
| 19:34:29 | Zevv | fair enough |
| 19:35:20 | FromDiscord_ | <j$> it doesn't it, "node lacks field: intVal" |
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| 19:49:17 | rect0x51 | is there an EOF constant in Nim? how to check end of file? |
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| 20:02:07 | Zevv | j$: can you post a snippet of what you are trying to do? |
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| 20:03:02 | Zevv | newStmtList(newCall(ident("int"), v)) works for me, which is basically just `int(v)` |
| 20:04:21 | FromGitter | <zetashift> rect0x51, doesn't readFile return false if the end has been reached? |
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| 20:10:34 | Araq | rect0x51: system.endOfFile or something, don't remember |
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| 20:26:34 | rect0x51 | thanks |
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| 21:13:41 | absolutejam_phon | Can i inspect procs at runtime? |
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| 21:14:10 | absolutejam_phon | Like, get a list, look at signatures and help etc |
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| 21:20:06 | absolutejam_phon | Guess itd be a macro |
| 21:20:58 | xace | inspect in the sense of debugging? |
| 21:22:17 | xace | i usually `nim c --debugger:native myprog.nim && gdb myprog` |
| 21:23:09 | absolutejam_phon | No, i mean in a reflection way |
| 21:23:23 | Zevv | absolutejam_phon: for what its worth: http://paste.debian.net/1060308/ |
| 21:23:55 | absolutejam_phon | Sweet, thank you |
| 21:24:12 | Zevv | I wonder if there is much you can do with that, though |
| 21:24:13 | absolutejam_phon | Found a similar forum post too |
| 21:25:27 | absolutejam_phon | Im creating a CLI/shell tool that allows you to inspect and interact with objects |
| 21:25:55 | Zevv | well, keep us posted on that! |
| 21:26:22 | absolutejam_phon | So i may have a Cat type and in the shell, the user will be able to run exposed procs and access fields |
| 21:26:24 | Zevv | remember that it's all static though |
| 21:26:37 | Zevv | you can't just pass as string, lookup the proc and get the signature at run time |
| 21:27:44 | absolutejam_phon | Would i have to generate the info at compile time? |
| 21:28:00 | Zevv | I guess so, my example is basically doing that at compile time as well |
| 21:28:20 | Zevv | from what I understand. But's is pretty new to me as well |
| 21:28:50 | absolutejam_phon | Ive never dealt with a compiled language so its all a bit magical haha |
| 21:29:06 | skellock | sounds fun |
| 21:29:11 | Zevv | My sample was bogus by the way |
| 21:29:15 | Zevv | that's only compile time |
| 21:29:33 | absolutejam_phon | I dont mind generating a list of procs annotated with a pragma or something at compile time |
| 21:29:40 | skellock | i made something like that for javascript (but it was easy as you can imagine) |
| 21:32:16 | absolutejam_phon | Yeah,i |
| 21:32:19 | absolutejam_phon | Ive os |
| 21:32:45 | absolutejam_phon | Done similar in python |
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| 21:33:04 | absolutejam_phon | Stupid phone keyboard |
| 21:33:34 | Zevv | This one is "run time": http://paste.debian.net/1060311/ |
| 21:33:50 | Zevv | the string "signature is proc (a: int; b: string): bool" is built compile time, but available run time |
| 21:34:15 | Zevv | No idea how you would automatically do this for all procs matching a specific pragma, or something like that, though |
| 21:44:34 | Araq | Zevv: with wrapper procs that do some marshalling |
| 21:45:14 | Araq | proc fooWrapper(args: JsonNode) = foo(args[0].getInt, args[1].getStr) |
| 21:45:32 | Araq | there are nimble packages that can do this for you. |
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| 21:52:10 | FromDiscord_ | <j$> https://pastebin.com/6D2tHRkg |
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| 22:19:31 | FromGitter | <alehander42> Absolutejam |
| 22:19:48 | FromGitter | <alehander42> You can use debuginfi |
| 22:19:50 | FromGitter | <alehander42> For that |
| 22:19:54 | FromGitter | <alehander42> Eventually |
| 22:20:05 | FromGitter | <alehander42> But not sure of the arch of your shell |
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| 22:25:24 | FromGitter | <tweenietomatoes> guys i promoted myself from MODERATED to SPAMMER in forum , can you please set me back to the original state and publish my question? thank you |
| 22:28:25 | Araq | no lol, re-register instead |
| 22:28:43 | Araq | well maybe I can do it |
| 22:29:56 | Araq | ok |
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| 23:00:07 | FromGitter | <kayabaNerve> When will Nim update accordingly? https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/776435/664f2f0b0b6fc9f5/ |
| 23:00:18 | FromGitter | <kayabaNerve> (2038 problem) |
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| 23:47:10 | FromGitter | <tweenietomatoes> thanks araq :D |
| 23:48:41 | FromGitter | <tweenietomatoes> something is not ok when i cant set every code block between { } nim should add this option for obsessed people like me |
| 23:58:06 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> is there any way to change a forum username? |
| 23:58:12 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> sort of like - a display name concept? |
| 23:58:32 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I wasn't going by zacharycarter on github when I created my forum handle, and now I am |
| 23:58:49 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> my forum handle is carterza - and not that it matters, but I'm not sure people correlate my forum posts with me |
| 23:59:33 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I'm not even sure how to change my forum icon.... |
| 23:59:38 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> or avatar whatever |
| 23:59:52 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> oh - gravatar |