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| 00:07:37 | ldlework | >all strings are UTF-8 strings, but this is not enforced. For example, when reading strings from binary files, they are |
| 00:07:38 | ldlework | merely a sequence of bytes. |
| 00:07:39 | ldlework | what does this mean? |
| 00:14:03 | ephja | that no byte sequence validation is performed |
| 00:15:08 | asdf | how are they utf-8, then? |
| 00:15:21 | ephja | it is by convention |
| 00:15:30 | ldlework | yeah what does it even mean for some bytes to be utf-8 though |
| 00:15:41 | ldlework | where does the convention ... get manifest |
| 00:16:11 | ldlework | like literals and such? |
| 00:21:17 | ephja | well, they should be utf-8 if you use the interface provided by the unicode module |
| 00:23:27 | ephja | you may perform validations by calling unicode.validateUtf8 |
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| 01:18:00 | ldlework | Varriount_: http://i.imgur.com/gJUcEiu.png |
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| 05:46:02 | Varriount_ | ldlework: A more precise explanation would be that all string *literals* are utf-8 encoded. |
| 05:48:29 | Varriount_ | ldlework: My frustration with most appications of noise for terrain building is that it never generates realistic oceans. |
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| 07:09:13 | Varriount_ | Araq: Apparently "var TypeName not nil" is an invalid type. |
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| 12:35:07 | yglukhov | dom96: can i provide multiple binaries in a nimble package? e.g. a game engine comes with a lot of tools like editors, resource packers, exporters, etc. |
| 12:35:22 | dom96 | yes |
| 12:36:13 | yglukhov | cool. do i just list those like bin = @["tool1", "tool2"] ? |
| 12:37:44 | yglukhov | also is there any way to provide different compiler options for different bins? |
| 12:38:53 | yglukhov | or maybe i could do a postinstall hook in nimble file and build my bins as i want and tell nimble to install those bins somehow? |
| 12:38:58 | dom96 | yeah, just list them like that. You can use a .nim.cfg file for that |
| 12:39:16 | dom96 | Can't do that right now. |
| 12:39:35 | yglukhov | ok thanks |
| 12:41:01 | yglukhov | can i override binary name in nimble file without changing nim file name? |
| 12:41:37 | dom96 | nope |
| 12:41:53 | dom96 | why not just change the file name? |
| 12:41:56 | yglukhov | ok thanks again =) |
| 12:42:03 | yglukhov | yea, no problem at all |
| 12:43:32 | yglukhov | do you want me to merge your images as is? |
| 12:44:20 | dom96 | Up to you. I would like the images to be travis-button-sized as well, but they already look kind of squished. |
| 12:44:43 | dom96 | (And the current images aren't travis-sized either ;)) |
| 12:46:48 | yglukhov | i know the current images suck. never been a great artist =) |
| 12:48:55 | dom96 | heh. My attempts would likely be far worse. Why I asked my girlfriend to do it. |
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| 15:18:14 | dom96 | This looks like an interesting benchmark, anyone up for writing a Nim version? https://github.com/atemerev/skynet |
| 15:22:21 | Araq | dom96: looks totally unrealistic |
| 15:23:39 | dom96 | That's too bad. |
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| 15:31:26 | senevo | Hi. I'm trying to use the yaml library, which is dependent on the values library. I get an error when importing values: |
| 15:31:40 | senevo | proc `.`*(v: ValueRef, key: expr): ValueRef = return v[string(key)] -- conversion from expr to string is invalid |
| 15:32:01 | senevo | does anyone know how to fix the problem? |
| 15:33:07 | Araq | senevo: PR it, needs to be key: auto these days |
| 15:37:42 | senevo | Araq: Yes, now it works. Thanks. Will make a PR. |
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| 16:42:10 | Araq | good news. I think I got gc:v2 to work :-) |
| 16:43:09 | yglukhov | (woot)! |
| 16:47:34 | def- | Araq: nice |
| 16:47:44 | yglukhov | dom96: ping |
| 16:47:59 | dom96 | sup |
| 16:48:47 | yglukhov | so im plyaing with installing bins with nimble, and heres the first bug(?). reinstalling a package leads to nimble exception |
| 16:48:57 | yglukhov | nimble.nim(418) installFromDir |
| 16:49:03 | yglukhov | os.nim(1012) createSymlink |
| 16:49:09 | yglukhov | Error: unhandled exception: File exists [OSError] |
| 16:49:19 | dom96 | interesting |
| 16:49:26 | dom96 | create a bug report please |
| 16:49:34 | yglukhov | kk |
| 16:52:45 | Araq | createSymlink needs to copy createDir |
| 16:52:56 | Araq | which doesn't fail if the dir already exists |
| 16:53:45 | dom96 | perhaps, but should it modify the symlink? |
| 16:54:23 | Araq | no, but if it already exists with the same target, it should be a nop |
| 16:54:48 | dom96 | but if it exists with a different target it should raise an exception |
| 16:54:51 | dom96 | ? |
| 16:55:21 | yglukhov | err, not sure if thats a good idea... createDir noop is a pretty common pattern. but symlink-same-target noop may lead to unexpected exceptions in production |
| 16:56:19 | yglukhov | no strong opinion though |
| 16:57:04 | Araq | how could it ever cause problems? |
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| 17:03:31 | yglukhov | well, consider the following case. if you do symlink-same-target-nop behavior, would you say that nimble bug is fixed? it kinda won't reproduce until package version changes, then the target changes, then all of a sudden we get an exception when updating to different version. |
| 17:05:07 | Araq | *shrug*, it certainly mitigates the problem |
| 17:05:09 | yglukhov | its just speculation anyway. |
| 17:05:17 | Araq | and the stdlib should have resonable defaults |
| 17:05:45 | Araq | and should strive to eliminate as many details as possible that I have to remember when writing code |
| 17:07:35 | ephja | is it a shared GC? |
| 17:09:24 | yglukhov | i agree. but error handling still has to be done, right? besides, symlink-exists and symlink-same-target in most cases have to be handled the same way. so in this case reasonable defaults may relax the user to not add error handling. |
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| 17:38:59 | ga2arch | what's gc:v2 ? |
| 17:43:03 | Araq | yglukhov: thinking about it, we need a putSymlink proc that does it properly |
| 17:43:09 | Araq | like putEnv does. |
| 17:43:26 | Araq | ephja: it's an incremental GC which adheres to deadlines |
| 17:43:58 | Araq | it's not a shared mem GC though since it seems that I actually have to deal with concurrency bugs for this "incremental" feature it might evolve into one |
| 17:44:48 | Araq | definitely something I will play with but right now it's for fixing the remaining leaks that .async seems to trigger |
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| 17:53:09 | ephja | ok |
| 18:07:24 | dom96 | Araq: So, when will it be ready for prime time? |
| 18:17:17 | Araq | dunno. in one week? requires extensive testing |
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| 21:19:28 | filcuc | is it possible given a function identifier extracting its return type and its arguments? |
| 21:19:53 | filcuc | something like is done in other languages with type traits |
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| 21:57:24 | dthrvr | please nim, add curly-braces-for-code-scope support as an alternative to identing. { } :) |
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