<< 14-12-2018 >>

00:08:42dom96nimble package@#git-tag
00:10:56FromGitter<rayman22201> bleh. thanks @dom96. I have fat fingers today
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00:21:10FromGitter<mratsim> @alehander42 @Araq seems like I will have to abandon this `ptr ref` idea, just after attaching the ptr ref to an object field, I can repr it properly. Then after `let foo = newObjWithPtrRef` I can repr foo properly. But then when I pass it to another function, the `ptr ref` field will SIGSEGV, other fields are fine.
00:22:47FromGitter<mratsim> casting to ByteAddress, the memory address didn’t change
00:23:25FromGitter<mratsim> so I think you cannot keep a ptr to a ref. Too tired for a repro
00:26:12xacevar p = startProcess("w3m"); write(p.inStream, "Hello world") # results in p.inStream is a indecleared field... What am I doing wrong?
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00:30:42xacehmm i was suppose to call inputStream() it seems
00:38:44dom96mratsim: used gc_ref?
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00:56:25xacevar p = startProcess("w3m"); write(p.inputStream, "Hello world"); flush(p.inputStream) # isn't this enough to write to stdin of another process?
01:17:07xacehttps://pastebin.com/raw/46vuZ3yL # I cant figure out why w3m isn't printing my output, does anyone see what I am doing wrong?
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01:42:47shashlickwhat's the issue
01:43:23xaceshashlick: w3m doesn't seem to get the text im trying to write to it, same goes for echo... i cant seem to figure out how to pipe my text into another process
01:44:00xaceecho Hello world | w3m -T text/html -dump # works fine
01:46:30shashlickline endings perhaps
01:46:45shashlickworks for me in ff - https://github.com/genotrance/ff/blob/master/ff.nim#L72
01:47:36xaceshashlick: same problem with writeLine()
01:48:53shashlickso this is the basic problem with pipes - w3m doesn't know when the input is done
01:49:05shashlickso it is still waiting for input since there's no EOF sent yet
01:49:07xacecan I signal it somehow?
01:49:24shashlickEOF = pipe being closed so unless you close it
01:49:32shashlicki don't think closing the input stream will work, you can stry
01:50:32shashlicki guess you can try close() and see if that tips w3m that input is done
01:51:34xacestill the same problem
01:52:12shashlickclose output stream also - which of course means you can read back from it - but at least test
01:52:39shashlickactually I don't think it will work
01:52:59shashlickreason it works in ff is because i write to input and just sit there in the while loop
01:53:25shashlickonce the child process exits (fzf which is interactive and manually exited), then ff continues
01:53:57shashlickso either you quit the spawning proc or something - no good answer but i remember researching it for a while and giving up
01:54:07xaceshashlick: this worked: closing input stream, and reading output before waitforexit
01:57:51shashlickthat's good
01:58:10xaceThank you :)
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02:33:50FromGitter<xmonader> @shashlick I checked it, interesting, would be awesome to carry along the DLLs. ⏎ I'm more familiar with go-bindata workflow
02:34:04FromGitter<xmonader> @kaushalmodi is there any chance to get nimdoc for `zeal` too?
02:41:45xacedo we have a way to see if a string contains one of the strings in a seq[string] or do i have to make my own with sequtils.any() ?
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02:48:24leorizexace: you'd have to make your own with `any()`, not too hard actually
02:48:59xaceleorize: yeah i did but it looked like the apocalypse
02:49:52leorize? it should just be: `seqOStr.anyIt(it in str)`
02:51:09xaceleorize: behold this monstrosity: if any(query, proc (x: string): bool = return e.name.contains(x)):
02:51:43leorizeuse `anyIt`, it's designed for this kind of thing
02:51:58xaceyeah i find yours much mode readable
02:54:27leorizefor `any()`, there's also the `sugar` module which would let you do this: `any(query, (x: string) => e.name.contains x)`
02:54:49leorizewell, but `anyIt` is way faster :P
02:55:17FromGitter<gogolxdong> ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5c131b95ca317a0e25c35398]
02:55:36xaceyeah, would it have worked if i also did `seqOStr.anyIt(it contains str)` ?
02:55:44FromGitter<gogolxdong> ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5c131bb0539aca60b2083dc1]
02:55:58xaceor is `contains` different from `in`
02:56:48leorize`in` is an operator and `contains` is a proc
02:56:53leorizeso yes, they're different
02:57:09xacealright, ill keep that in mind
02:57:21FromGitter<gogolxdong> What's wrong with this code?
02:57:54leorizexace: to implement the `in` operator, you implement `contains()` :P
02:58:05leorizeso in a way it's the same thing
02:58:22xaceleorize: yeah i wasnt aware of nim having a `in` operator... i like these fancy toys
02:58:54leorizegogolxdong: have you initialized the table?
03:00:05FromGitter<gogolxdong> oh, my bad
03:02:41xacedoes nim have a way to suspend terminal output? atm my program is printing a lot of things and it would be faster if it didnt wait for stdout.write()
03:03:12xaceotherwise im considering just appending the output to a seq[string] and printing them at the end
03:03:23leorizethe UNIX™ way: `./stuff` >/dev/null :P
03:03:40xacehaha, oh yeah :)
03:08:43xacehere i am running `time <mycommand>` not realising why its not going anyfaster, later realising i should compile it... thats it i should sleep
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04:29:28shashlick@xmonader: ya that was a big motivation but was a dead end since DLLs are loaded in PreMainInner, way before any imports
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04:46:44FromGitter<gogolxdong> yesterday's issue might out of this `var instanceData = fromJsonJsonNode (response)`
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07:50:55TangerAnybody working on an ElasticSearch api for Nim?
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08:11:30FromGitter<gogolxdong> ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5c1365b1ca317a0e25c50ecf]
08:12:27FromGitter<gogolxdong> Is this a good pattern? I want to split a large body into pieces.
08:13:19FromDiscord_<j$> is there a way to play a video file in nim
08:13:24FromGitter<gogolxdong> and further , how to remove the buildHtml in each piece.
08:13:51FromGitter<alehander42> @gogolxdong I would put each tag on new line, as with normal html
08:14:16FromGitter<alehander42> buildHtml is required so the tdiv/tags macros can work in that context
08:14:30FromGitter<alehander42> you can probably shorten it to something if you really want to
08:17:20FromGitter<gogolxdong> Is this splitting is acceptable or a good practice?
08:19:45Araqsplitting is good, but keep the buildHtml
08:20:00Araqsplitting is just the ordinal "turn proc into more procs"
08:20:26Araq*the usual
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08:45:01FromGitter<mratsim> @dom96 I shouldn’t need gc_ref, the ptr ref cannot outlive the ref. I just wanted to break a cyclic dependency in an acyclic tree where I keep a backlink for convenience
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09:05:55Araqmratsim: Give me something to reproduce
09:06:13FromGitter<mratsim> yep will do
09:08:16FromGitter<alehander42> i am interested too, can't imagine how the compiler can be convinced about that
09:18:12FromGitter<mratsim> @alehander42 @Araq here you go: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/9974
09:18:17FromGitter<mratsim> it’s very strange
09:20:07FromGitter<alehander42> i dont get a sigsegv
09:24:43FromGitter<mratsim> I use devel from beginning on November, I’ll try on latest
09:27:23FromGitter<mratsim> I think with ptr Foo, even ptr seq, the GC shouldn’t increase the ref count.
09:27:38FromGitter<mratsim> well seq is a bad example.
09:27:44FromGitter<mratsim> ptr ref int say.
09:27:57FromGitter<mratsim> but I can’t try that due to this issue
09:32:41FromGitter<mratsim> @alehander42 still crashes on latest devel
09:40:08FromGitter<mratsim> Breaking news, Nim is a JIT language: https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2018/12/06/ruby-2-6-0-rc1-released/ ⏎ ⏎ > Unlike ordinary JIT compilers for other languages, Ruby’s JIT compiler does JIT compilation in a unique way, which prints C code to a disk and spawns common C compiler process to generate native code.
09:42:36FromGitter<alehander42> ha, they finally have builtin ast module, but I think everybody uses the `parser` gem anyway now
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09:50:21crashbjornhey
09:50:47FromGitter<mratsim> ho
09:50:49crashbjornI'm trying to find the key in a table, which has the maxmimum *value*.. but can't seem to do this very elegantly in nim...
09:51:32crashbjornin python i'd do something like `max(d.keys(), key=lambda x: d[x])`
09:52:38crashbjornbut i can't seem to get the same elegance in nim. Even my first struggle is, that it seems the max() proc in nim won't take the keys() iterator as a parameter. do I need to convert it to a list first?
09:52:44FromGitter<mratsim> countTable —> largest
09:53:01FromGitter<mratsim> https://nim-lang.org/docs/tables.html#largest%2CCountTable%5BA%5D
09:54:00crashbjornoh this looks nice. of course there's an elegant solution :) thanks a bunch
09:55:07FromDiscord_<j$> hey does anyone know of a video playback api for nim?
09:55:31FromGitter<mratsim> otherwise ⏎ Otherwise this is how you search for the max key in general: https://github.com/numforge/laser/blob/master/benchmarks/random_sampling/bench_multinomial_samplers.nim#L118-L127
09:55:44FromGitter<mratsim> keep track of the current key, val in a result tuple and compare
09:56:04FromGitter<mratsim> @j$ there is an low-level ffmpeg binding, and there is an example video player in karax
09:56:21FromGitter<mratsim> https://github.com/pragmagic/karax/tree/master/examples/mediaplayer
09:56:39FromDiscord_<j$> awesome thanks
09:56:50FromGitter<mratsim> https://github.com/ahirner/nim-ffmpeg
09:57:59FromGitter<mratsim> this thread might help you as well: https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/2742
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11:03:42FromGitter<gogolxdong> @Araq, I'm not sure when is the occasion of using `template sync*(n:VNode):untyped = vnodeToDom(n) `
11:04:33FromGitter<gogolxdong> `template sync*(n:VNode):untyped = dthunk vnodeToDom(n) `
11:05:18Araqit's when you wrap something that returns a kdom.Node or when you need more control over your input elements
11:05:24FromGitter<gogolxdong> a minimal diffing part?
11:08:26FromGitter<gogolxdong> ripple effects?
11:09:59FromGitter<gogolxdong> It seems redrawing automatically.
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11:47:33nc-xCan anyone familiar with nimRtl check if these now work as expected - https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/6855 , https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/8405
11:48:35nc-xNope, my bad
11:48:39nc-xI checked it wrong
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12:46:43ftsfhi, is it possible to compile some modules with debug and others as release? i have low level stuff that i'm sure is solid but runs very slow when in debug mode, and my high level stuff I'm working on I want to know about problems.
12:50:05Araqyes, the syntax in the config is mymodule.options.always = "-O2"
12:50:18AraqI think.
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13:01:23nc-xAraq: Any idea how to fix https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/5604. I see https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/compiler/semexprs.nim#L30, so the compile time errors show correct info, but the line locations are not stored for runtime errors.
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13:06:34Araqnc-x: it's a C codegen problem
13:07:09Araqthe C codegen emits line information on the statement level which is not good enough, it should be at the expression granularity
13:07:23Araqbut more I don't know either, otherwise I would have fixed it already :p
13:09:54ftsf@Araq, thanks!
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13:12:48nc-xAraq: 👍
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13:29:05ftsfhmm doesn't seem to have an effect if I check the generated c file, the command line doesn't contain -O2. gcc.options.always = "-O2" does, but to every module
13:36:26FromGitter<alehander42> Araq, I have a weird `nim doc OSError access is denied` error on my PR in appveyor: does this happen often
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14:29:04xacedoes someone know of a nim library that provides CLI-UI features?
14:31:01leorizethere's nimbox
14:34:57xaceill check it out thanks :)
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14:36:22yuken_Hmm. Nim has pretty similar syntax to BYOND, never thought I would have said that about anything.
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14:49:20xaceIf I were to create a interactive pager like `less` would termbox fit for the job or am i better of with ncurses?
14:52:20leorizeyou can check if termbox supports what you need
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15:15:27xaceyeah having trouble finding documentation for them ill try to understand then better to make a decision
15:39:48xacehmm the nim-ncurses seems like its a simple wrapper while nimbox seems to wrap and add some extra support, i guess I will stick with nimbox for ease of use and the readme made me chuckle
15:40:33ldleworkxace: I'd be super interested in a nice template for nimbox
15:41:21xaceldlework: maybe sometime in the future when i try to strip dependencies of my project, but that would have to be after mid-january
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15:46:01nc-xAraq: Is typed/untyped allowed in proc? If not then -> https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/lib/system.nim#L688 https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/lib/system/alloc.nim#L400
15:46:34Araqsome procs in system need it, in general it's not valid
15:46:51nc-xI was trying to give error for typed/untyped in proc for fixing some of the issues instead of crashing.
15:47:02nc-xBut it fails on these 2 locations
15:47:45nc-xSo what should I do for them?
15:49:52Araqdon't check if the owner is skModule and sfSystemModule in owner.flags
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16:11:58nc-xThanks!
16:15:23Araqnc-x: btw did my mergeConfig cause the old bugs to reappear?
16:15:37Araqthat's the problem when we don't add tests for bugs
16:17:11nc-xI'll have to check
16:17:32nc-xAfter pushing the typed/untyped stuff, I will look it into
16:17:36Araqthanks
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16:47:10nc-xSo now it fails on macros.nim https://travis-ci.org/nim-lang/Nim/jobs/468074200#L1145
16:48:42Araqah too bad :P
16:48:57Araqmy time.h lacks CLOCK_THREAD_CPUTIME_ID
16:49:16Araqwtf, this is is not 'when defined(posix)', this is Linux specific
16:50:37Araqon the other travis on OSX is green so I don't care
16:52:13nc-xAraq: nim c --run -d:nodejs a.nim gives Error: system module needs: process.exit
16:52:25nc-xOh sorry
16:52:31nc-xI used nim c
16:53:41nc-xSo there are no regressions from your mergeConfig. Every thing works fine.
16:54:09nc-xSo coming back to macros.nim. How do I special case macros.nim like I have done for system.nim
16:59:44nc-x> no regressions from your mergeConfig
16:59:48nc-xExcept maybe one
17:02:05nc-xcreate empty `config.nims` in nim/config folder and try to compile any file `nim c filename.nim`. It now shows all the gcc commands used. (Which is not shown when config.nims not present))
17:04:12nc-xhttps://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/9982
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17:32:34FromGitter<alehander42> wow , used 50_000 syntax in a python script because of nim habit for some time and finally realized they actually support it, they didnt before
17:39:17narimiranit is in python since 3.5 or so
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17:40:34FromGitter<alehander42> yeah found the pep
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18:15:43FromGitter<brentp> is nimble build from devel now broken? On nimble install for any local packages, I get "Error: undeclared identifier: 'version'."
18:18:41leorizejudging from the latest commits https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/commits/devel, yes it is
18:18:51leorizemake sure you've updated to the latest version
18:29:28FromGitter<brentp> still fails with latest nim `git hash: 5ba22c9315a46a281baa2baf5a3ab4abdfcc4a33`
18:48:44leorizethen I think you should open an issue on Nim git repo
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19:06:16FromGitter<iffy> Has anyone made a NodeJS addon (`.node` file you can `require` from NodeJS) from Nim? I just made a hello world one and think there's potential for Nim to make the process easier, but didn't want to redo it if someone had already done it
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19:42:53FromDiscord_<deech> I was taking a look at https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/9961 and the problem is that field access on a `typedesc` that doesn't have a base type causes the compiler to crash. Changing the `const b: typedesc` to `const b : typedesc[Table]` or even just `const b : Table` works. The crash happens because the `v.type` in the `proc` resolves to `type(v.type)` which is of kind `tyFromExpr` causing the crash. My question: is there any time fie
19:46:50FromDiscord_<deech> I was taking a look at https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/9961 and the problem is that field access on a `typedesc` that isn't parameterized, eg. `typedesc[int]`, the compiler to crash. Changing the `const b: typedesc` to `const b : typedesc[Table]` or even just `const b : Table` works. The crash happens because the `v.type` in the `proc` resolves to `type(v.type)` which is of kind `tyFromExpr` causing the crash. My question: is there an
19:47:05FromDiscord_<deech> I was taking a look at https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/9961 and the problem is that field access on a `typedesc` that isn't parameterized, eg. `typedesc[int]`, causes the compiler to crash. Changing the `const b: typedesc` to `const b : typedesc[Table]` or even just `const b : Table` works. The crash happens because the `v.type` in the `proc` resolves to `type(v.type)` which is of kind `tyFromExpr` causing the crash. My question: is t
19:49:31Araqsorry, deech, post what you said after "My question: "
19:49:35Araqagain.
19:50:03Araqiffy: I don't think anybody did that before
19:50:31FromDiscord_<deech> My question: is there any time field access on some `type(foo.type)` makes sense?
19:51:07FromDiscord_<deech> I guess editing the comment on Discord doesn't work well for people reading on IRC. 😃
19:52:01Araqin theory typedesc of typedesc makes sense and in the long it's gonna be supported
19:52:10Araq*in the long run
19:54:44leorize@deech: editing on Discord = multiple messages for IRC users :P
19:55:52FromGitter<alehander42> basically <fixed subsentence>* is the most portable thing you can do :D
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20:26:44xaceim stuck on this: https://pastebin.com/raw/6yPRuCCD # how can i make 'matches' only point to the object rather than actually copying it?
20:27:45xaceoh and the `var e:BigData` # how could i initilize it if it was a `let e: BigData` ?
20:30:04leorizeyou'd need to use the constructor to initalize a `let` variable
20:30:23leorize`let e = BigData(i: 0, str: "")` for example
20:30:25xaceleorize: oki, then i guessed that one correctly. what about matches.add()
20:30:35leorizeuse a ref object
20:30:46leorizeif you wanted to pass as reference, use a reference :P
20:32:15xaceleorize: is it possible without changing to `BigData = ref object` ? The reason I'm asking is to better understand the language
20:33:01leorizeI don't think copy-on-write is supported, so you'd have to change BigData to a `ref object`
20:34:00xaceleorize: Then how would i create a copy of a `ref object` later on?
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20:35:15leorizesystem.deepCopy()
20:35:39xacehmm,
20:35:42leorizethat'll clone everything, so be careful
20:36:14leorizean another way would be to construct a new `ref object` and copy the fields over
20:37:33leorizeactually, I think you can do some thing like this:
20:37:48xaceleorize: another question, if i have `BigData = ref object` and call `proc foo(bar:BigData)` # will foo be able to change bar? or does it still need a `bar: var BigData`
20:38:04leorizeyep, foo can change bar
20:38:19xacecan i limit it to `const` somehow?
20:38:40xace`immutable` is the correct term i believe
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20:38:51leorizewrite tracking is not implemented yet, sadly
20:48:53xaceleorize: hmm `ref object` now requires me to var foo = BigData() # and while doing that i realised i can: `let foo = BigData(n: i, str: "foobar")
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