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00:03:51dom96discoloda: Perhaps try clearing compiler/nimcache
00:09:51discolodanope
00:10:14dom96Can you gist the full output of koch?
00:21:31Demosniminst is being somewhat picky about something... maybe I will just add Nimrod/bin to my path and call it a day
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00:26:06discolodahttps://gist.github.com/8428638
00:27:26dom96Weird. What happens if you compile the compiler manually? ./bin/nimrod c compiler/nimrod
00:28:56discolodasame thing
00:30:46dom96Is there a nimrod binary in compiler/ ?
00:32:10dom96if so, try deleting it and then try again.
00:32:49discolodajust nimrod0
00:33:31dom96in that case I am stumped. The compiler isn't compiling the C files for some reason.
00:37:59discolodaill try again later, fresh
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02:17:09DemosERGH OBVIOUSLY I have to insert a binary blob into my csproj for templates to get expanded during build. OBVIOUSLY the fact that this exists is not shown anywhere in the project UI
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03:15:13NimBotVarriount/Nimrod-Sublime plugins/nimcheck a00146e Clay Sweetser [+0 ±2 -0]: Cleaned up nimcheck core logic (modularized it mainly)... 2 more lines
03:17:25NimBotVarriount/Nimrod-Sublime master 617f96d Clay Sweetser [+0 ±1 -0]: Added comments to various patterns
03:17:25NimBotVarriount/Nimrod-Sublime master fe73ffc Clay Sweetser [+0 ±1 -0]: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/language/add-comments'
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03:19:17NimBotVarriount/Nimrod-Sublime master 6e3f6f2 Clay Sweetser [+1 ±0 -0]: Added initial nimcheck plug-in - a command plug-in which runs the current view through 'nimrod check'
03:19:17NimBotVarriount/Nimrod-Sublime master 6fdd078 Clay Sweetser [+0 ±1 -0]: Allow user to choose an error to go to. Clean up code.
03:19:17NimBotVarriount/Nimrod-Sublime master 9858daa Clay Sweetser [+1 ±1 -1]: Rename nimchecker.py to NimCheck.py... 3 more lines
03:19:17NimBotVarriount/Nimrod-Sublime master 6c082da Clay Sweetser [+0 ±2 -0]: Cleaned up nimcheck core logic (modularized it mainly)... 2 more lines
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03:20:23VarriountOrionPK: Happy now?
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03:23:31fowlis your last name really sweetster?
03:29:11OrionPKVarriount yope :)
03:29:43OrionPKvarriount does it use the project file?
03:29:58OrionPKooh, no doesnt appear to
03:30:11OrionPKhow do I dismiss the check error outlines
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04:43:23Demosyay! I can create a nimrod project in VS and add files to it!
04:47:22OrionPKyay
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04:59:23Demosand it only crashes some of the time :D
05:00:49OrionPKyay
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06:18:37Demoshm, it seems c2nim does not ignore gcc style __attribute__ annotations
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06:32:34discolodayes, it needs more testing
06:57:51Demoswow, c programs really manage to use all of nimrod's reserved words as well
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07:35:51discolodai plan on working on making c2nim's output more ready for nimrod to compile. identifiers need to be fixed when using a nimrod keyword, identifiers that start with an underscore or has two sequencial underscores, need to get preprocessor defines from included files, find a way to resolve #if #endif blocks that mess with control flow etc..
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11:09:35wanreactormonk: I had the same problem. The zmq bindings in the stdlib are for zeromq2. zeromq3 and zeromq4 renamed zmq_send to zmq_msg_send and re-use the name zmq_send for something not using zmq_msg_t.
11:10:08wanhttps://github.com/idlewan/nawak/blob/master/lib/zmq4.nim I'll have to make a PR to get that in the stdlib
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13:20:54Araqhi recursor welcome
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16:23:31Araqping zahary, zahary_
16:38:48zahary_hi
16:39:20zahary_pong Araq
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16:56:46Araqnever mind, I blamed semTableConstr for a bug, but that's not the problem
16:59:19Araqwhat do you have in mind with "varargs" btw? we already have varargs[expr]
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16:59:49zahary_well, I'll support the full spectrum of generic types
17:00:07zahary_after the signature is matched, the varargs become a tuple inside the instantiated generic proc
17:00:58discolodahmm, can nimrod do varadic generics, or do i need to make an immediate template/macro for that
17:00:58Araqyou can do that already with a macro
17:01:17zahary_well, I did, very long time ago, remember
17:01:30Araqnot really
17:01:37zahary_it's in the test suite
17:01:53Araqwhat was the problem?
17:02:34zahary_there is not much of problem, it's just more cumbersome and it's not hard to extend sigmatch/generateInstance to handle this case as well
17:03:15zahary_back then the problem was actually that macros wasn't overloadable, but that's less of an issue nw
17:06:38Araqyeah well, we should watch out that we don't communicate minor stuff as important.
17:07:21AraqI have in mind the case where the scope rules for "if" were taken as an example the language is in constant flux
17:07:23zahary_I agree with such crituque :)
17:08:18zahary_btw, speaking of varargs, I sometimes wonder if it would be nice to support this:
17:08:27Araqwhile in reality only some rather obscure cases for =~ are affected by the slightly changed if-scoping rules
17:08:59zahary_proc foo(x: varargs[Foo], y: varargs[Bar])
17:09:18Araqthe better example is:
17:09:36Araqtemplate foo(a, b = 0; body: stmt)
17:09:55zahary_yes, that one too, but it can be handled as a special case
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17:20:52Araqoh btw I keep forgetting this
17:21:24Araqbut I think we should allow a callsite ``var`` annotation and then we need no special casing for the type classes
17:23:11zahary_what do you mean exactly?
17:23:23zahary_var annotation for the param or the return value
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17:30:27zahary_I plan to allow the use of type classes in variable declaration var x: AnyDictionary = x.getLookupTable
17:30:43zahary_a special case of the usefulness of this is the support of var: var variable
17:30:47zahary_var x: var = foo()
17:31:03zahary_var acting as a type class here
17:35:54zahary_I have to leave the office, if you answer I'll read it from home. the other way I read the message is if by "special casing" you mean the logic left in paramTypesMatch. This is no longer needed, but I haven't yet finished moving that bit into typeRel as well
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19:00:38reactormonkwan, go for it
19:05:36discolodawhere can i find a list of already defined variables/constants, like defined(windows)?
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19:06:48reactormonkdiscoloda, you could ask idetools
19:07:06reactormonknever done that though.
19:09:04Araqdiscoloda: just check compiler/condsyms.nim, system.hostOS is documented as well
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19:11:12discolodaAraq: that should work, thanks. idetools is Aporia?
19:18:12Araqidetools is the compiler's IDE support
19:18:30Araqno idea to what degree which editor supports it
19:18:45wanI am wondering the limits of macros: can I inspect a previously-defined type? I'd like to do something like this: https://gist.github.com/idlewan/7d84e797aef10fd14bd3
19:24:19Araqwan: it requires a type inspection API which we lack, you can only do typetraits.arity iirc
19:33:46wanIs it possible to do this type inspection API? Hard? Feasible? I am looking at evalTypeTrait. Am I in the right direction, and should I start there?
19:35:17Araqentirely feasible
19:36:23Araqbut you should add it to vm.nim in the devel branch
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19:38:09wanI'll look into it
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20:04:17Mat3_hi
20:18:11Araqhi Mat3_ . finished your documentation?
20:20:35Mat3_hello Araq. No, I'm finished one chapter about the interrupt system this moment however
20:25:45Mat3_(and simulating the whole at logic-level beside)
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20:27:31Mat3_what's left are some chapters about ILP, instruction fusion and vectorisation
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20:29:22Mat3_so it's ~60% complete
20:30:03*Mat3_ much work at current and only a small fraction of time left for documentation
20:45:56Mat3_ciao
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21:15:58Varriountfowl: It's "Sweetser", not "Sweetster" . Almost everybody, upon first reading my last name, pronounces it the way you spelled it.
21:16:14VarriountOrionPK: Dismiss the check error outlines?
21:16:24OrionPKit outlines stuff
21:16:28OrionPKright?
21:16:31OrionPKdisplays errors
21:16:56VarriountAlso, it uses nimrod check to do most of the work - I don't know if the check command takes the configuration file into account
21:17:31OrionPKconfiguration file?
21:17:37VarriountOrionPK: Er, project file
21:17:46OrionPKwhy would nimrod look at the sublime project file
21:18:01Varriount"<OrionPK> varriount does it use the project file?"
21:18:15Varriount"OrionPK> ooh, no doesnt appear to"
21:18:33VarriountI thought you meant the nimrod project file
21:18:45OrionPKoh, Id id
21:18:46OrionPKdid *
21:19:00OrionPKkinda useless if it you can only use it on your main module
21:19:04VarriountHow would it use the project file?
21:19:21VarriountAnd do you mean, a whole-project check command?
21:19:37OrionPKmaybe it's like the http://build.nimrod-lang.org/docs/idetools.html
21:19:49OrionPKwhere you pass in the proj file at the end
21:20:07Varriount*shrug*
21:20:25VarriountI don't have a project to test on-hand at the moment
21:21:04OrionPKall u gotta do
21:21:10OrionPKis make 2 files instead of one
21:22:15VarriountMeh, you do it
21:22:20Varriount:p
21:24:20OrionPKi did
21:24:22OrionPKit didnt work
21:24:23OrionPK;P
21:24:31OrionPKit showed a bunch of errors
21:24:41OrionPKor did u mean test out passing a proj.nim
21:24:45OrionPKbecause im at work
21:25:10VarriountI meant test passing a proj.nim. What did you do?
21:26:02VarriountOrionPK: ^
21:26:24OrionPKtried running check on a non-main file
21:26:27OrionPKand everything was an error
21:27:16VarriountHm. Well if 'check' doesn't support passing in a project file, it should. *sigh*, I guess I'll test it.
21:28:01VarriountOrionPK: How should I do this?
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21:42:42reactormonkdiscoloda, https://github.com/Araq/Nimrod/blob/master/doc/idetools.txt
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21:43:39reactormonkprobably --context
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21:49:03OrionPKhow?
21:49:11OrionPKVarriount what do you mean?
21:49:28VarriountWell, I made three files, main.nim, tertiary.nim, and secondary.nim
21:49:56Varriountmain.nim and tertiary.nim are in a top directory, while secondary.nim is in a sub directory named 'sub'
21:50:23Varriountmain.nim imports secondary.nim, which imports tertiary.nim
21:51:05VarriountOrionPK: Nimrod's check command does support the usage of '-m='
21:51:55OrionPKok, so you should be able to set the main project file in your sublime project
21:52:07OrionPKthere's a Nimrod: command for it
21:54:33VarriountOrionPK: Speaking of commands, you I need to have a little 'chat' later about python idioms, and why not following them can lead to errors and loss of performance.
21:56:30OrionPKyou mention performance and python in the same sentence as if that has some meaning
21:57:06VarriountIt does. Since python is a dynamic language, performance is something that must be kept in mind.
21:57:48OrionPKwhat doesnt have good performance
21:58:20VarriountWell, the suggestion feature for one, since it doesn't actually work.
21:58:31OrionPKI didnt implement any suggestion feature
21:58:34Varriount*definition lookup
21:58:41OrionPKdefinition lookup works fine
21:58:57OrionPKI've tested it on OSX and windows on 3 different machines
21:59:16VarriountUsing 64 bit sublime text and nimrod?
22:01:12VarriountOrionPK: When you have time, would you please use teamviewer to test the definition lookup command, since I am likely just using it wrongly?
22:03:15OrionPKyeah
22:08:14OrionPKVarriount did you change anything in the way the main project file is set?
22:10:09VarriountNo.
22:10:21VarriountI don't even know if I have a main project file set.
22:10:44VarriountI'm querying for a definition that is located in os.nim
22:12:43OrionPKdoes it run and come back w/ no definition found
22:12:46OrionPKor does it crash
22:13:14VarriountIt crashes.
22:13:51OrionPKcomment out the code that causes the crash and see what command it's executing
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22:23:31Araqhey vvbitt
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22:32:28pe7ed27hey guys, can i define a type over multiple lines? looking in the tuts, docs etc i cant find any docs or examples, everything i try i just get indentation error
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22:34:30OrionPKcan you show an example of what you're trying to do? pastebin or gist please
22:36:03pe7ed27just trying to create a tuple that has a lot of named fields, i dont want the line extremely long, so tried to do it over multiple lines, if you still want an example i can paste it
22:36:42OrionPKyou can
22:36:57OrionPKbut i'd need to see what you're doing to tell you what to change
22:39:30pe7ed27http://pastebin.com/DLQX5MMZ
22:40:46OrionPKget rid of the ['s and ,'s
22:42:03Araqpe7ed27: compiles for me as is
22:42:11OrionPKuse object type declaration syntax, but w/ "tuple" instead of "object"
22:42:22OrionPKwould look cleaner that way anyway
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22:43:21OrionPKpe7ed27 are you on 0.9.2 or github latest
22:43:41pe7ed27as is, i get expected ']' without the [, i get invalid indentation.... ill just keep messing about
22:44:13pe7ed270.9.2
22:45:04OrionPKthat's probably why you can compile it araq :P
22:45:52Araqpe7ed27: are sure it's not some tabulator in your source file?
22:46:45pe7ed27yep, using sublime, just did a convert tabs to spaces, still nothing
22:48:15pe7ed27ill try changing line endings, im on windows at the moment, can never remember where sublime hides that though
22:48:25OrionPKshouldnt be an issue
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22:49:08Araqpe7ed27: please look at the file compiler/extccomp.nim, around line 30
22:49:43Araqthis code has been used for bootrapping and uses quite your syntax
22:49:44Demosyay! visual studio can build nimrod projects!
22:49:57OrionPKold news demos
22:49:58OrionPK:P
22:50:10DemosOrionPK, did I miss something?
22:50:20OrionPKyeah you already told me that last night
22:50:21pe7ed27cheers, i had a browse some random files in github looking for just that example, thanks
22:50:45Demosno, I said visual studio could create nimrod projects, I just added support for building a second ago
22:50:55OrionPKoh heh
22:51:06OrionPKintegrated debugging plz
22:51:57Demoswelllll vcc can not build the generated c code, which makes that hard
22:52:16OrionPKdoh
22:52:19OrionPKsince when
22:52:20Demoswait
22:53:58Demosand since I have tried it
22:54:18Demosthe compiler emits a division by zero error in the functions for identifying floating point numbers
22:55:16OrionPKhttp://nimrod-lang.org/download.html
22:55:18pe7ed27it works, thanks guys, one thing i did notice, was on another line i had tuple(..) instead of tuple[..] giving indentation error, not a handy hint saying i was an idiot
22:55:22OrionPKMicrosoft's Visual C++ http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc (You need the SDK too - but not the full one: Only the win32api header files and import libraries are essential.)
22:55:45OrionPKaccording to that microsoft visual c++ compiler should work
22:56:08AraqI tried it recently and it still works/works again
22:56:18Araqvcc version 12 or something
22:58:13Demosmy cl --version gives 18.00.21005
22:58:18Demos.1
23:00:23Demoshow can I get the configuration the current module is being compiled with (-d:release or -d:debug and so on)
23:00:39Demoswait
23:00:41Demosnever mind
23:00:42Demosderp
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23:05:04VarriountOrionPK: You back from work yet?
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23:13:29Araqgood night
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23:25:28OrionPKyep, just got back Varriount
23:25:49DemosOK vcc can compile stuff for me but I guess it just can not bootstrap the compiler itself
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23:26:31Varriount_OrionPK: Ok, one moment
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23:29:19VarriountOrionPK: Pm'd you
23:29:29OrionPKVarriount those dont work on familiar yet ;)
23:29:42OrionPKi'd have to ssh into my server to get what you sent
23:30:05VarriountOrionPK: So that's why you never reply to my Pm's
23:30:09OrionPKlol
23:30:21OrionPKpretty much
23:30:46VarriountSo.. How am I going to give you the information?
23:31:03VarriountOrionPK: What about memoserv?
23:31:17OrionPKhere?
23:31:33OrionPKgo to #nim2
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23:42:05OrionPKdemos doesnt that kinda.. hamper things
23:42:32Demoswell you can use a nimrod compiler that was built with gcc to then build your code with msvc
23:42:47Demosthe reason you need msvc for debugging is because it can output pdb files
23:47:55OrionPKright
23:47:58OrionPKwell, if it works...
23:48:35OrionPKare you able to set the compiler when they try to debug?
23:51:16Demoswell that would not help much, but in any case I can not get msbuild to find cl and the runtime libraries...
23:51:26Demospath issues maybe
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23:54:12OrionPKwell
23:54:38OrionPKit would help in that it would allow the user to debug their program evne if they have gcc as their default nimrod compiler
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23:56:53Demosoh, I was going to just set the --cc option in the msbuild task
23:57:15DemosI may end up writing a new task instead of hacking it together using Exec
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23:57:37Demosbut that does not help if I am unable to get the envirenment set up for building using cl
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23:58:21Demosanother option is to use stdin/stdout redirection to interact with the embedded debugger