<<15-03-2013>>

00:01:28dom96Yeah, starcraft 2 has that effect :P
00:02:42reactormonkmy new pc arrived today... and the HD died while trying to format it.
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00:12:02dom96that sucks :\
00:13:44dom96good night
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09:44:06*gour just found out about Ceylon language...huh
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16:11:00dom96gour: Looks crap doesn't it? :P
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16:37:43gourdom96: i agree...as soon as i see word Java and/or JVM
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17:01:04gourwhat is with the nimrod-scene...a bit quiet
17:03:08dom96Many Nimrod developers happen to love starcraft 2, and the new expansion came out recently... :P
17:04:06dom96hrm, I find that I get many upvotes when I shamelessly advertise Nimrod on reddit.
17:04:25dom96How come I am still the only one that mentions it then?!
17:06:18gourwhich post(s)? i haven't seen nimrod mentioned recently, but could give you some points
17:06:44dom96http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1aawyl/scripting_languages_performance_and_go/c8vs20a
17:08:40dom96shevy has helped out a bit, too bad he's not here, I would thank him.
17:12:48*gour donated some points and added reply
17:15:10dom96cool, thanks.
17:15:29dom96Please keep a watchful eye for opportunities to suggest Nimrod to people.
17:18:04gouri'm still busy finishing migration of some non-profit site from one CMS to another and quite busy at this moment, but I'll try to write about Nimrod on my site as well...
17:20:01dom96awesome, what's your site?
17:20:35gouratmarama.net, but atm. it does not have 'technical' section/category
17:20:46gourstay tuned ;)
17:27:42dom96Interesting blog. Your culture is very interesting too, where are you from?
17:35:22gourCroatia, but the culture is Vedic ;)
17:38:16dom96nice
18:08:56gourdom96: what are your plans with nimrod for the future? any specific project?
18:13:15dom96A while ago I had some projects in mind and I thought that Nimrod is perfect for them. But I got very sidetracked, and nowadays I just want to do everything in my power to make Nimrod a success. Being able to be employed in a company that uses Nimrod would be awesome.
18:22:58dom96As for projects: I always come up with new ones, and do not have enough time to finish any of them :P
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19:18:34dom96hey gradha
19:19:40gradhahey dom96
19:23:36dom96What's new?
19:23:53gradhapretty much nothing I guess
19:24:32gradhaoh wait, new kpop videos, the word of the moment is suspenders
19:25:17dom96who needs kpop when you've got a new David Bowie album?
19:25:59gradhaisn't that the bad guy from some old 80s film? labyrinth?
19:26:32gradhaor maybe that was dark krystal... maybe Jennifer Connely was there too
19:27:39gradhayep, looks like I'm not senile yet http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091369/
19:27:56gradhaso what's he into now? electronic or kpop?
19:28:57dom96Both at the same time
19:29:06gradhathat would be amazing
19:29:11dom96Together with dubstep
19:29:14dom96:P
19:29:27gradhaok, that's too much
19:29:41dom96But it's David Bowie!
19:29:53gradhayes, maybe he could pull that off
19:30:07gradhanever heard anything from him though
19:32:11gradhaso http://jmoiron.net has discovered python sucks in performance
19:32:36dom96I read that as "J Moron" for some reason.
19:33:43gradhahe remaps control keys for vim, which is wrong
19:33:52dom96gradha: I thought you didn't reddit? or did you find out about that blog article from some other site?
19:34:03dom96(or was it from irc logs)
19:34:05gradhaI'm going back through the irc log
19:34:40gradhayou see, reddit is useful when there's nothing other than one link and a comment, then I know I'm meant to follow the link
19:34:53gradhabut then I don't understand why you post a reddit link instead of the original link?
19:35:06dom96for the comments
19:35:25gradhaso reddit is like a place people post links and then comment on the links?
19:35:47dom96yep
19:35:59dom96As well as upvote and downvote the links
19:36:09dom96and comments
19:36:23gradhaI was used to website embedding discus javascript for the comments
19:37:48gradhayou can be employed in a company using nimrod if you start one
19:38:24dom96sure.
19:38:36dom96gradha: Want to invest in my awesome Nimrod company?
19:39:14gradhaI can write you docs for it
19:52:45gradhaguess what, I upgraded dropbox client to 2.0 and it's worse than 1.6
19:53:04gradhaprettier, less functionality, now it doesn't tell you about recently removed files, only added or modified
20:05:29gourdom96: i'd be happy just to have in Nimrod viable language for open-source projects...
20:05:52gradhagour: is it not viable now?
20:07:00gourgradha: as i said earlier...it has to increase its userbase and current bus-factor...
20:08:24gradhathose two characteristics don't make C# more desirable as language for open-source projects
20:09:27gourgradha: C# and bus-factor 1?
20:10:03gradhac# has a bigger user base than nimrod, and has a higher bus factor, yet I wouldn't touch it with a pole
20:10:24gradhacan't understand from my POV why those two characteristics have anything to do with you (or a group of people) writing code
20:12:58gourgradha: well, it's a bit risky to invest time & energy to write a project with having single man working on the only compiler, except if one is having extra time to play around
20:13:56gradhathis software you are going to invest time & energy, are you going to sell it on windows, mac, ios?
20:14:56gourno, but time is much more (or the most) precious asset than money, at least, in my case ;)
20:17:44gradhatime can be your most precious asset, after investing it, how are you going to make a return on your inversion
20:19:33goursimple - by having application which does its job which we need in our work
20:21:15gradhaso you are doing an internal tool, and time is the biggest asset because the less time you spend on this tool, the more you can do actual business?
20:23:35gourwell, the tool can be useful for other people as well. otoh, i plan to do it in my free time, not during the 'business hours' cause writing software is not my daily job
20:25:05gradhasounds like you are doing it for a hobby, not for work, and you hobby is doing extra hours, you must be best employee then
20:26:16*gour is self-employed, btw ;)
20:29:16gradhadom96: there you have your investment oportinuty, work for gour to provide nimrod compiler support
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22:32:28dom96Oh man, Nimrod is at the very bottom: http://www.linuxadvocates.com/2013/03/perl-language-everybody-wants-to.html
22:32:49dom96But that's because linguist is still broken.
22:32:51dom96reactormonk: ping
22:37:10dom96oh look
22:37:22dom96the Nimrod repo is finally considered 77.4% Nimrod :D
22:37:48dom96As is Aporia.
23:23:36Araqomg
23:23:41Araqthey finally fixed it!
23:23:49AraqNimrod is written in Nimrod! :D
23:23:59dom96indeed :D
23:24:38Araqand it only took them over a year
23:24:48Araqnow that's amazing support
23:25:22dom96I'm sure if you paid them it would take a lot less time.
23:26:09AraqI have to pay them for fixing bugs?
23:26:35Araqinteresting business plan :P
23:27:15dom96*shrug*
23:27:48dom96In fact if I hadn't met a github employee in person it might have never been fixed.
23:32:19Araqtrue
23:32:27Araqand depressing
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23:41:16dom96good night