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01:38:36libmanhttp://turnoff.us/geek/java20-predictions/ - anyone else like "import whocares"? /class_clown
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02:02:10ftsfhmm something change in devel that makes nim exit with 0 when it fails to compile?
02:02:15ftsfbreaks make
02:03:12ftsfor maybe it's the choosenim wrapper?
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02:38:25ftsfhmm, parsecfg.writeConfig seems broken in devel too
02:38:43ftsfwrites and empty file and errors with unknown IOError
02:40:13ftsftested it works correctly in stable with the same code
02:55:23ftsfhttps://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/5816
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03:45:08ftsfhttps://github.com/ftsf/nim-webaudio
04:01:02FromGitter<zacharycarter> nice!
04:01:31FromGitter<zacharycarter> although ftsf: https://github.com/yglukhov/sound
04:01:37FromGitter<zacharycarter> not sure if there is any crossover or not
04:02:01ftsfooh
04:02:05ftsfdidn't know of that
04:02:38FromGitter<zacharycarter> I use it in frag
04:02:49ftsflooks like it does most of what mine does, but does a lot more
04:03:00ftsfmore high level api
04:03:03FromGitter<zacharycarter> yeah
04:03:20FromGitter<zacharycarter> I use it in frag
04:04:23FromGitter<zacharycarter> whoops
04:49:46FromGitter<zacharycarter> ftsf: is your js backend open source / can I take a look at the code to see how you're doing things?
04:50:39ftsfftsf, haven't published the js version yet, but i shall be soon
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04:51:31ftsfcurrently it's a separate implementation to the c backend, but i'll likely merge most of the code except for the platform specific bits
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04:52:56FromGitter<zacharycarter> I'm doing the same thing with frag atm
04:53:06FromGitter<zacharycarter> I'm going to use pixi.js as the renderer for 2d
04:53:52ftsfmine's all html5 canvas 2d
04:56:04ftsfhttps://github.com/ftsf/nico/blob/js/js/nicojs.nim
04:56:26FromGitter<zacharycarter> thanks!
05:21:30ftsfhow's frag coming along?
05:22:51FromGitter<zacharycarter> pretty good!
05:23:04FromGitter<zacharycarter> I got NanoVG support added yesterday and pretty much fleshed out today
05:23:17FromGitter<zacharycarter> (https://files.gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim/ybHe/Screen-Shot-2017-05-14-at-11.21.15-PM.png)
05:23:59FromGitter<zacharycarter> hrmm is there any js2nim haha? I'm a bit confused on how to bind to JS
05:24:10ftsfcool
05:24:35ftsfhttps://github.com/ftsf/nim-webaudio/blob/master/webaudio.nim that's all i did to bind to JS
05:25:07ftsfit's pretty lightweight, just define the procs and types as {.importc/importcpp.}
05:25:07FromGitter<zacharycarter> thanks!
05:25:12FromGitter<zacharycarter> gotcha
05:35:53FromGitter<zacharycarter> hrm I wonder how to dump to console with js, I know with karax it was rather simple
05:36:35ftsfimport jsconsole
05:36:37ftsfconsole.log
05:36:43FromGitter<zacharycarter> thanks
05:38:37FromGitter<almynic> how can i format echo output in color? I implemented a crude text search engine which should output the match in color
05:40:47ftsfalmynic https://nim-lang.org/docs/terminal.html
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07:16:41FromGitter<zacharycarter> http://imgur.com/a/9ex8b
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07:18:21ftsf\o/
07:20:39FromGitter<zacharycarter> finally getting the hang of wrapping pixi.js
07:36:57ftsfpreparing to publish Vektor2089 finally =)
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07:37:29FromGitter<zacharycarter> nice! grats ftsf!
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07:38:39FromGitter<zacharycarter> pixijs is going to work beautifully i think
07:38:44ftsfmmm nice api?
07:38:58FromGitter<zacharycarter> very much so and it implements a lot of what I was going to have to implement
07:39:22FromGitter<zacharycarter> has a stage / scene graph api which kind of clashes with FRAG's thick client but I think that's okay given the fact this is for the web and people are used to that kind of api
07:39:39FromGitter<zacharycarter> and I could always add a scene graph to frag desktop / mobile
07:39:40ftsfahh i see
07:39:58FromGitter<zacharycarter> but it has async asset loading, texture atlases, shaders, spine integration
07:39:59ftsfi prefer stuff that doesn't do the scene stuff for me
07:40:01FromGitter<zacharycarter> all sorts of good stuff
07:40:04ftsfnice
07:40:12FromGitter<zacharycarter> this is mostly just like position sprite a here
07:40:15FromGitter<zacharycarter> if you want to add a child
07:40:16FromGitter<zacharycarter> you can
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07:40:31FromGitter<zacharycarter> but I tend to avoid scene graphs entirely in most of my games
07:41:01ftsfi guess they're good for big projects, but a pain for small ones
07:41:12FromGitter<zacharycarter> exactly
07:41:28FromGitter<zacharycarter> I don't even know if that's always the case
07:41:53FromGitter<zacharycarter> I think it's just very situational where they're useful
07:42:01FromGitter<zacharycarter> you have a lot of entities in your game world that influence one another
07:42:23FromGitter<zacharycarter> and 3d apps of course
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08:01:56FromGitter<andreaferretti> I confirm that nim exits with 0 code when failing to compile
08:02:00FromGitter<andreaferretti> I opened https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/5817
08:02:19ftsfawesome, thanks
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08:41:00FromGitter<yglukhov> @ftsf, @zacharycarter, regarding js bind, have a look at https://github.com/yglukhov/jsbind . Here's an example of its usage in real life: https://github.com/yglukhov/sound/blob/master/sound/private/sound_js.nim
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09:27:42m712i need to find some place where i can use nimrod so i can learn it
09:28:31ftsfm712, i started by porting something of mine from another language, good way to learn
09:28:40m712irc bot then
09:28:45m712lulz
09:29:40m712i wrote an irc bot in C, so now i'm gonna rewrite it in Nim with all the metaprogramming shenanigans
09:29:40m712how's threading support in nim?
09:29:51ftsfthere are threads
09:30:06m712are they easy to use?
09:30:39ftsfi haven't used the much tbh
09:30:50couven92easier than in C! :P Nim has an automatic threadpool iirc
09:30:51m712thanks
09:31:07couven92go to the manual an look for the spawn keyword
09:31:17couven92s/an/and
09:31:32m712tom hanks
09:35:04Araquse .async for your IRC bot, not threads
09:36:02m712okay
09:36:14dom96andreaferretti: ftsf: can you confirm that it's not choosenim that's messing up the exit code for Nim?
09:36:27FromGitter<andreaferretti> I can check
09:36:29ftsfdom96, confirmed
09:36:33ftsferr actually
09:37:25ftsfi think it is actually
09:37:40ftsfi get a 1 when running the bin in toolchains directly
09:37:43m712is the nim "secret" shell JIT?
09:38:06m712i don't get why importing os works if it is
09:38:12m712doesn't work*
09:39:10FromGitter<andreaferretti> yep, it's choosenim
09:39:20m712i can see the main issue is cimport
09:39:32FromGitter<andreaferretti> with stock nim, the error codes are ok
09:40:51dom96Thanks for checking. Should be an easy fix.
09:41:41Araqgood, I was worried about this regression :-)
09:44:41m712btw i'm really digging the var.func() stuff
09:45:06m712i can do num.inc which is cleaner than inc(num) imo
09:45:21ftsfm712, yeah it's very nice
09:45:44m712also the no parens on the functions
09:46:02m712is there a printf in the stdlib?
09:46:36Arrrrecho ?
09:46:47m712echo can do format strings?
09:46:47FromGitter<andreaferretti> I am trying to add a little improvement to c2nim
09:46:58FromGitter<andreaferretti> but when I try to compile it I get `.nimble/pkgs/compiler-#head/compiler/idents.nim(15, 21) Error: cannot open 'etcpriv'`
09:47:04ArrrrYou want strutils.`%`
09:47:17FromGitter<andreaferretti> (using `nimble c c2nim.nim)
09:47:34m712something like ("%d" % 5).echo?
09:48:04m712can i pass varargs of untyped to `%`?
09:48:17m712iirc there was a note on that
09:48:17Arrrrhttps://nim-lang.org/docs/strutils.html#%,string,openArray[string]
09:48:46m712actually i remember that varargs of untyped are passed literally because otherwise echo wouldn't work
09:48:48ftsfhttps://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/5816 any ideas about this?
09:49:01ftsfwhat could cause an Unknown IO Error?
09:50:42Araqandreaferretti: doesn't seem like "compiler-#head"
09:50:55AraqI nuked etcpriv
09:51:21Araqftsf: requires an example program. iirc saving of config has a test case.
09:51:31dom96andreaferretti: nimble install compiler@#head
09:51:50ftsfthat example program in the issue causes it
09:53:31FromGitter<andreaferretti> @Araq @dom96 ok installing again compiler@#head fixed it
09:53:45ArrrrTested on my computer, i got the same error
09:53:57FromGitter<andreaferretti> it seems my nimble packages are a little messed up
09:54:01Araqftsf: sorry I misread the issue
09:54:13FromGitter<andreaferretti> there should be no compiler@#head in the first place
09:54:22FromGitter<andreaferretti> but I cannot remove it because of c2nim
09:54:42FromGitter<andreaferretti> even though I have other versions of compiler in the nimble packages, recent enough for c2nim
09:54:46FromGitter<andreaferretti> :-/
09:55:09dom96ahh yeah, sounds like a bug.
09:56:02ArrrrMaybe is because of this https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/lib/pure/parsecfg.nim#L542
09:56:25ArrrrRecently parsecfg was updated and now throws exceptions for stupid things
09:56:30ArrrrBefore it was more permissive
09:58:53ftsfhmm opens file and filestream for the same filename
09:59:00dom96andreaferretti: please report it
09:59:07ftsfshould probably be passing file instead of filename ot the newFileStream
10:05:28AraqArrrr, ftsf yeah that's a stupid typo
10:06:29couven92what type gets assigned to the literal `42.42`? float32 or float64. The manual doesn't say
10:06:43Araqfloat
10:07:24couven92which is the architecturally sized floating-point type? i.e. float32 on x86 and float64 on x64?
10:07:39Araqno it's always float64
10:07:44couven92ah
10:09:26couven92so like a C floating-point literal then... okay... I'd say that we want that covered under [Numerical constants](https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#lexical-analysis-numerical-constants) in the manual?
10:12:10Araq"There exists a literal for each numerical type that is defined. The suffix starting with an apostrophe (''') is called a type suffix. Literals without a type suffix are of the type int, unless the literal contains a dot or E|e in which case it is of type float."
10:12:47couven92Yeah, sorry, I appearently suffer from accute illeteracy
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10:30:44m712core.nim(3, 13) Error: invalid type: 'typed' in this context: 'proc (fmt: string, args: varargs[typed])'
10:30:47m712?????
10:32:32m712http://termbin.com/pe72
10:35:20m712nevermind
10:46:55m712is importing a module relative to the module's current path or the main module that's being compiled?
10:59:40ArrrrRelative to current path and whatever you set to path https://nim-lang.org/docs/nimc.html#compiler-usage-search-path-handling
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11:03:02m712so if i compile main.nim, which includes utils.logger, i should include utils.core in utils.logger? or just core?
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11:16:00Arrrrwut
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11:27:03Trioxinthinking about making a program to convert php to nim. would probably save me a lot of tmie
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11:47:48m712can you concat string literals like in C or python?
11:48:00couven92m712, & operator
11:48:04m712thanks
11:48:15couven92"My " & "string" -> "My string"
11:51:15m712works with literals or string vars too?
11:51:22couven92both
11:51:29m712cool
11:51:55m712i can do something like "some_int: " &$some_int
11:52:27couven92I'd put a space surrounding the `&`, but yeah, why not?
11:53:23m712i'm gonna confuse that a lot with dereference and binary AND
11:54:13couven92well, in Nim binary AND is `and` and dereference is not done with `&` in any language I know
11:55:10couven92unary `*` is usually the dereference operator in languages like C and C++
12:03:01FromGitter<mratsim> Is that normal that I get undeclared routine with those 2 examples (trying to use pairs/enumerate iterator with another inline iterator) ⏎ ⏎ ```code paste, see link``` ⏎ ⏎ I get `Error: attempting to call undeclared routine: ‘zip’` ... [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=591998f5d1a7716a0aca182d]
12:07:51m712couven92: i meant address operator
12:08:40couven92I think the `addr` operator in Nim has a little more descriptive name :P
12:09:20couven92But, yeah... i needed to get used to the `&` operator as well ;_)
12:10:28m712addr returns untracked references right?
12:10:35couven92yup
12:12:03m712do i need * to export constants?
12:12:15m712or are they global once declared
12:13:37dom96everything needs to be exported
12:14:10Tiberiumdom96, out of curiosity: can I mark my nim file so all functions/variables/constants from it are exported?
12:14:17Tiberiumor I'll need to place "*" everywhere?
12:14:18m712also i'd like to make a feature request: type* blocks for making all-public objects
12:14:19m712probably can be done with a macro
12:14:27FromGitter<mratsim> Replying to myself, I guess pairs/enumerate are expecting `closure iterator`instead of `inline iterator`. I guess I probably could use a template instead of “iterator” for enumerate and pairs.
12:17:09FromGitter<andreaferretti> @Araq I have added support for a `#skip` directive in c2nim, to skip some `#ifdef` sections altogether. I will need it to wrap CUDA, let me know if it is ok for inclusion
12:19:22dom96Tiberium: Not as far as I'm aware.
12:23:56yglukhovdoes anyone know anything about jester memory leak on serving statics?
12:27:31dom96yglukhov: have you tried jester's 'devel' branch?
12:27:53yglukhovi think its master. lemme try it
12:32:15yglukhovdom96: nope, still leaks
12:32:26m712does write(f: File) return the number of bytes written?
12:32:52dom96yglukhov: is it easy to reproduce?
12:33:19yglukhovdom96: in my private project - yes =)
12:34:09yglukhovdom96 ill try to make a sample
12:34:30dom96thanks
12:34:43dom96You can also try a different GC
12:45:51couven92Do we have increment and decrement operators for ordinal types in nim? or do we just do: `i += 1` (or alternatively create a proc `++`)
12:47:33Tiberiumcouven92, "dec" and "inc"
12:47:46couven92Tiberium, ah, ok :)
12:56:41m712what does nim do in a situation like some_proc(i.inc, i.inc, i.inc)?
12:57:54couven92it probably assumes `some_proc` to be a proc that takes three `proc(i: int): int` typed arguments
12:58:35Tiberiumbtw, is inc a and a+=1 are the same?
12:58:36couven92i.e. to get the actual value, i guess you have to use call syntax instead of command syntax
13:03:59PMunchYeah, I'm pretty sure you would have to call it like some_proc(i.inc(),i.inc(),i.inc()) or some_proc(inc i,inc i,inc i)
13:05:06PMunchOh wait, inc doesn't return an int. It modifies i
13:06:35couven92PMunch, ah! okay, that explains things... :P
13:17:21yglukhovdom96: yay! i've got a sample!!
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13:21:15yglukhovdom96: https://github.com/yglukhov/jesterleak
13:43:57yglukhovAraq: can i make newobj/rawalloc boil down to malloc instead of mmap?
13:45:47Araq-d:emscripten ?
13:46:15Araqlook at system/osalloc.nim, you might need to patch it
13:46:34yglukhovok thanks
13:46:37Araqand introduce -d:nimMallocInsteadOfMMap
13:46:56Araqwhy do you need it? there is a reason we don't use fucking malloc
13:47:35yglukhovi want to debug memory leaks with xcode instruments. mmap tells nothing useful to instruments
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13:49:09Araqwhy not use -d:nimTypeNames and dump*?
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13:53:40FromGitter<couven92> Can you do `type ProcType = type(someProc)`?
13:54:37FromGitter<couven92> I.e. can I somehow avoid writing the potentially very long argument list multiple times?
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14:20:10arnetheduckyglukhov, I've used --gc:none -d:useMalloc occasionally when I didn't want the gc noise
14:20:29arnetheduckbut of course, you get plenty of leaks then ;)
14:21:03arnetheduckAraq, https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/5712? failing test is the broken windows test
14:21:31arnetheduckhttps://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/5713 would be nice too
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14:22:05arnetheduckjust added dwarf debug info support to nlvm, can debug code with gdb very smoothly now ;)
14:22:16yglukhovarnetheduck: yeah, but i want to keep the gc behavior.
14:22:23yglukhovjust change the underlying impl
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14:50:31FromGitter<zacharycarter> I keep getting : undeclared identifier: 'convertToConsoleLoggable'
14:50:43FromGitter<zacharycarter> when trying to import jsconsole and use console.log
14:50:46ftsfhmm =\
14:50:49ftsfnever seen that one
14:53:58FromGitter<zacharycarter> figured it out - stupid mistake on my part
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15:17:04yglukhovAraq, dom96: interesting observation. with my sample jester starts consuming ram rapidly, but stops at around 1.6gb... any ideas?
15:19:19Araqyglukhov: why not dump the heap and tell us?
15:19:48yglukhovAraq: i can't see anything useful in the dump :(
15:19:53Araqthe conservative stack likely keeps more stuff alive than it should but that cannot explain 1.6gb
15:20:21Araqwell the dump should give you some numbers
15:20:40ftsfdrat! my osx build doesn't work =(
15:21:15ftsfso annoying testing on a platform you don't have
15:27:53yglukhovAraq: does this mean anything for you? https://gist.github.com/yglukhov/071e7ce255d765332d10550ea61beb1a
15:28:06yglukhovdump after 3 and 6 serves
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15:35:33Araqyglukhov: seems like an allocator problem. fragmentation.
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15:36:21yglukhovthats unfortunate...
15:38:53Araqdo you use 0.16.0 ? no, right?
15:39:11yglukhovi'm using freshest devel with zahary merged in
15:39:49yglukhovbut i suspect thats an old problem, because we've got a similar leak in our prod server for a couple of months.
15:40:06yglukhovi think i've told you about that one
15:40:29Araq cprintf(„chunksize: %ld\n", a.nextChunkSize)
15:40:45Araqadd that code in alloc.nim 'requestOsChunks'
15:41:23Araqshould grow quickly and tell us what's wrong
15:42:56yglukhovAraq: https://gist.github.com/yglukhov/4abeac7856e21fb3266e0fcccad1477c
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15:51:15yglukhovAraq: does that help?
15:52:00Araqit confirms my hypothesis, can't you see it?
15:53:17yglukhovwell i see that chunksize grows to more than 300mb.
15:54:29yglukhovAraq: but i don't know how it should work
15:56:14Araq let usedMem = a.currMem # - a.freeMem
15:56:21Araqremove the '#' comment marker please
15:56:46yglukhovAraq: a non-related problem: https://gist.github.com/yglukhov/beb25034a57961227560bdfd1fe481f7 . does this nim crash log tell you anything? or do you need a sample?
15:57:13Araqalready fixed that one
15:57:30yglukhovAraq: how come? today?
15:57:31yglukhov=)
15:57:31Araqmost likely zahary's branch didn't keep up with the bugfix for that in devel
15:57:39yglukhovah, maybe
15:58:45Araqthe logic is hard to get right, you can also try a fixed size chunk size
15:59:15yglukhovAraq: sorry, but removing '#' did not help
15:59:34yglukhovthe leak is pretty much the same
15:59:40Araqwell the image you serve is 45MB
15:59:47yglukhovyep
15:59:53Araqand I bet somewhere a string of size 45MB is allocated
16:00:00yglukhovsure
16:00:09Araqso the chunksize reflects that somewhat
16:00:13Araqbbl
16:10:34ftsfhmm has anyone managed to get threads working on osx?
16:10:56yglukhovftsf: sure, why?
16:11:50ftsfahh issues with thread local storage when compiling with nim
16:11:57ftsfactually i think i just remembered i fixed this before...
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16:48:18FromGitter<mratsim> Is there any recommendation or package with a specific slicing with steps syntax? From this very old (2015) post I see something like 1..10|2 to go from 1 to 10 (1, 3, 5, 7, 9) https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/837. ⏎ ⏎ I’m implementing a multidimensional array library and would like to avoid inconsistencies across Nim ecosystem i.e. some Nim packages using 1..10|2, other 1..10:2 or 1..10::2 or something even different
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16:51:56Araq1..10|+2
16:51:59Araq1..10|-2
16:52:48Araqis what I would use
16:53:27Araqwith custom |- and |+ operators because Nim is awesome
16:54:10Araqand because the runtime sign should never ever have an influence on iteration direction
16:56:08Araqalso sometimes |* is useful
17:11:06Tiberiumdo you need macros to make something like "1..10|+2"?
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17:14:44FromGitter<Varriount> Tiberium: "1..10" produces a simple slice. "SimpleSlice|+2" would produce a complex slice?
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17:14:57FromGitter<Varriount> You would need a new type, but I don't think it would require a macro
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17:20:12FromGitter<mratsim> thanks @Araq. @Tiberium, I may need a macro if I have to do myArray[1..10, 3, 1..10|+2]
17:20:42FromGitter<mratsim> I’m not sure a vargargs[CustomSlice] will work since I mix integer and slices
17:21:59FromGitter<mratsim> And I also want to be able to do myArray[ .. , 1] with .. being “Don’t slice that dimension"
17:22:40Araqhe, that is not allowed by Nim's parser
17:25:27FromGitter<mratsim> argh
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17:32:54FromGitter<Varriount> @mratsim `..` is an operator, not a valid identifier
17:33:21gangstacatis there a flag or something to test the new asyncdispatch? I got like +4k requests per second and no crash at all in my tests
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17:38:47Araqmratsim, you can do that though, myArray[`..`, 1]
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17:53:16FromGitter<Varriount> gangstacat: Is 4k per second good?
17:53:48gangstacatcertainly, Araq said we could get +30k requests/second yesterday
17:55:11gangstacatactually with a hello world on jester I get ~30k/sec on head, and ~34k/sec with the new asyncdispatch
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18:00:30Araqgangstacat: and with my refactoring 30% more requests, but it crashes most of the time ;-)
18:00:48Araqwill investigate after 0.17 is out
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18:01:15gangstacatAraq, I couldn't get the 30% more and I got no crash so that's why I asked if there is a flag to turn on or something special to do
18:01:29Araqawww ok
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18:05:49TiberiumAraq, any plans on release date of 0.17? probably shortly after zahary branch will get merged?
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18:09:21skrylarwell damn. you guys are holding on pretty well.
18:09:52*skrylar was last here before the rename
18:13:47dom96hey skrylar, aren't you the guy that was going to work on NITS? :)
18:14:06dom96Tiberium: Today is in fact the plan for release
18:14:14skrylardom96, i don't know what NITS is.
18:14:29skrylari was the guy who ported some old heavily tested unicode stuff over way back when
18:15:09dom96oh, I misremembered, i'm thinking of twist-vector. I definitely recognise your name though
18:15:23skrylari used to be here a lot
18:15:48skrylarsaw nim mentioned on a pseudo-framework a bunch of games were using tho.
18:16:11dom96The fact that we're still here after so many years should inspire some confidence I hope
18:17:07skrylarmight poke around a bit again
18:18:45skrylarminorly excited about Red but they're taking forever to get anywhere lol
18:19:02skrylarthey got their GUI stuff put together before a garbage collector o_O
18:20:21skrylarsaw nim and nimble have official arch packages too. congrats.
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18:21:59dom96Debian/Ubuntu as well
18:22:03dom96I was surprised to see nim on Ubunty 16.04
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18:22:11dom96And old version, but still
18:22:17skrylarwell that's debian for you
18:24:07skrylarwas porting some neural network stuff over to C and realized i may have overreacted when i quit over the first-letter-capitalization thing
18:24:21skrylartyping tensor_type_extra_crap multiple times per function is well.
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18:33:10skrylarhuh. concepts weren't here before
18:33:27skrylarlooks like you yoinked the best part of pascal lol
18:34:30Tiberiumdom96, what do you mean by today?
18:35:23FromGitter<mratsim> @Araq For the stepped slice, it seems like `..`as lower precedence than `|+`so I’m forced to use parenthesis: ⏎ ⏎ ```code paste, see link``` ⏎ ⏎ I guess I will have to define a `..|+`operator. I’m not even sure how Nim deal with that: would `a..b|+step` and `a..b|step+`match ? what about `a.b.|+step`? [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5919f4eb33e9ee771cad0cd0]
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18:40:41Araqproc `|+`(a, b: int): Step = Step(a: a, b: b)
18:40:58Araqproc `..`(a: int; s: Step): SlicedStep = ...
18:42:00Araq^ no problem, types to the rescue.
18:43:50FromGitter<mratsim> Thanks
18:49:27dom96Tiberium: I mean we are planning on releasing today
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18:53:38Tiberiumdom96, WOW, that's cool
18:53:53Tiberiumdom96, btw, what's the current time for you?
18:54:01dom9619:53
18:54:18Tiberiumok, thanks
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18:55:00Tiberiumbtw, can tiny cc compiler compile nim?
18:57:44demi-depends on what C requirements nim has i guess
18:58:25Tiberiumdemi-, anyway I'll try now :)
18:59:36Tiberiumwat
19:00:10Tiberiumit compiled nim's csources (I know what tcc doesn't have any optimizations) in 0,448 sec
19:00:11TiberiumWTF?
19:01:17Tiberium(I just replaced CC and LINKER with "tcc"
19:02:02FromGitter<yglukhov> dom96: did I miss anything or nim is gonna be released today?
19:02:21TiberiumI think you didn't
19:02:23Tiberium0.17 yay
19:03:07FromGitter<yglukhov> thats kinda funny given the state of zah branch =)
19:04:00FromGitter<yglukhov> may i suggest to delay the release until after at least few days after its merged?
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19:15:47Araqyeah we'll have to
19:20:59FromGitter<yglukhov> Since we're at it, what are the plans about merging? ;)
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20:54:11skrylarargh. there's no jack bindings
20:58:30FromGitter<mratsim> jack the audio? Can’t you use it through Openal, unless you want adanced stuff like VST-like plugins
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21:09:25skrylaryeah midi sequencer stuff
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21:28:23Araqskrylar: welcome back. a Unicode champion is highly desired for Nim. :-)
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21:34:22FromGitter<RSDuck> sorry, but are they already plans for nimsuggests future?
21:34:59FromGitter<RSDuck> it already got much more useable but there are still some nasty bugs which can confuse especially beginner
21:38:44AraqRSDuck, like what?
21:39:55FromGitter<RSDuck> like local variables which aren't shown
21:42:17AraqI can fix that but I fear it might break something else... we need more tests
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21:43:03FromGitter<RSDuck> ```var f = open("test.txt", fmWrite) ⏎ f.write()``` ⏎ ⏎ or in this case, the signature of f.write isn't suggested, but the of open is [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=591a20e733e9ee771cadda22]
21:43:17FromGitter<RSDuck> ah, ok
21:43:56Araqwell 'write' should be suggested too
21:44:11Araqopen gets precedence because it's already been used in the current file ...
21:44:46FromGitter<RSDuck> yes, but in the the paratheses of write, it's signature should be suggested when the con command is used
21:45:16FromGitter<RSDuck> but it isn't
21:45:26Araqer ... and open's is suggested instead?
21:45:43FromGitter<RSDuck> no, nothing is suggested
21:48:17FromGitter<RSDuck> and that's were atleast I start to stutter
21:48:38FromGitter<RSDuck> and to think whether I'm wrong or the machine
21:55:07Araqhmm ok
21:55:22Araqthat should work but 'con' is ambiguous
22:03:24FromGitter<RSDuck> How can I run the nimsuggest tests?
22:09:35Araqnim c -r nimsuggest/tester
22:12:39FromGitter<RSDuck> thanks, but somehow my self written test isn't executed
22:12:48FromGitter<RSDuck> probably there is another test which fails before it
22:13:24FromGitter<RSDuck> or my test is faulty and the error message doesn't show that
22:13:56FromGitter<RSDuck> it's another case, I just didn't read the error message correctly
22:14:17FromGitter<RSDuck> I need to sleep, my english is also getting worse and worse. Good night
22:16:39enthus1asti've just disabled my last "every day use" python script in favour of a nim one. Now everything is nim :)
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22:19:20Araqenthus1ast: yay!!! :D
22:21:31enthus1astnow i can also disable redis, mongo, postgres ;)
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23:44:45PMunchAdded many more collisions to SDLGamelib now: https://github.com/PMunch/SDLGamelib
23:45:19PMunchRectangles, circles, triangles, and polygons are all supported with within, collides (boolean), and collision (rectangle of the collision).
23:47:48PMunchGuess the next thing is to write some simple examples of how to use it all :)
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