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01:08:40GitDisc<cavariux> Hi guys, do you think that combining c and c++ bindings in a library is bad practice? because of having to use different backends?
01:10:33FromGitter<zacharycarter> it could have an effect on portability
01:10:43FromGitter<zacharycarter> depending on what standard of C++ is used
01:11:08FromGitter<zacharycarter> and what the target device supports
01:11:36GitDisc<cavariux> hmm good point, hi btw I just got back
01:11:42FromGitter<zacharycarter> wb
01:11:57GitDisc<cavariux> what's the real different between imgui and nuklear other than one is in C and the other in C++?
01:12:30FromGitter<zacharycarter> one is a header only library - the other is not
01:13:06GitDisc<cavariux> damn haha you are so correct
01:13:19GitDisc<cavariux> I was thinking of making the imgui bindings but it's in c++ :/
01:13:22FromGitter<zacharycarter> imgui has more features and more adoption
01:13:40FromGitter<zacharycarter> you can bind to C++ w/Nim - I'm not an expert on the subject, but it's definitely possible
01:13:57FromGitter<zacharycarter> see https://github.com/3dicc/Urhonimo
01:13:59GitDisc<cavariux> yeah, it's almost the same but with importcpp instead of importc
01:14:07FromGitter<zacharycarter> yeah
01:14:33GitDisc<cavariux> well, I will add it to nimgl with a warning that it will enable cpp compiling
01:14:36FromGitter<zacharycarter> there's also - https://github.com/Extrawurst/cimgui
01:15:39GitDisc<cavariux> hmm, it looks like to much of a trouble when nim can bind with cpp
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02:35:11FromGitter<zacharycarter> shashlick: idea for nimgen - allow the library being wrapped to be added as a submodule
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03:00:36shashlick@zacharycarter - can you please explain what you mean? not sure I get the submodule context
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03:08:12TangerA git submodule?
03:09:52FromGitter<zacharycarter> yes
03:10:14FromGitter<zacharycarter> also I'm having trouble getting https://github.com/sass/libsass to work with nimgen
03:10:51FromGitter<zacharycarter> ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5aab35ba458cbde5573d69ac]
03:10:55FromGitter<zacharycarter> doesn't seem to do much :/
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03:12:47TangerGit submodules are OK, but they'll probably need something watching them and keeping them updated
03:13:08TangerCould have come a long way since I used them though
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03:15:47FromGitter<zacharycarter> git also has the subtree command - but either way I think it'd be better than just checking out part of the source lib into the lib your wrapping ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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03:23:16FromGitter<zacharycarter> shashlick: if you can offer any help with the libsass stuff - I'd be much appreciative
03:24:06shashlicksure am looking
03:24:48FromGitter<zacharycarter> thanks!
03:25:30shashlickso there's nothing in that file worth mention, you want to recurse so recurse = true
03:25:55FromGitter<zacharycarter> ah thanks
03:26:10shashlickplus nimgen doesn't automatically recurse <> includes since those are usually system includes
03:26:18FromGitter<zacharycarter> gotcha
03:26:42shashlickso need quotes = false and I think filter = sass
03:27:02FromGitter<zacharycarter> alright I'll try all of those options - thank you very much!
03:27:15shashlickyou also don't need the [sass.nim] empty section unless you want to change something in those files
03:27:56FromGitter<zacharycarter> ah okay cool! good to know :)
03:29:48shashlickcan you also please open an issue to track the submodule feature with some detail on how you think it should work? not sure what it should do
03:31:25FromGitter<zacharycarter> sure - I need to check out the git sparse stuff too - it may be better than what I'm asking for
03:33:41shashlickyep you just say gitremote = url and gitsparse = list of files to checkout with wildcards
03:33:48shashlicki use it in nimssl for example
03:37:33FromGitter<zacharycarter> ah okay cool! thanks so much! was able to get the sass bindings done - now for bed - but now I can write a Nim sass parser :D
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05:37:54FromGitter<gogolxdong> undeclared identifier: 'await'
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06:12:38Tangergogolxdong: await needs to be called inside a proc with the {.async.} pragma
06:13:00TangerAnd you need to import asyncdispatch if you're not already
06:13:29FromGitter<gogolxdong> yes, thanks.
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09:34:53PMunchWoo, result now works in quote do: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/7343
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09:45:23adeohluwahow to write a nim script that u can pipe to?
09:45:56adeohluwa$cat data | nimcode
09:46:29PMunchData sent over a pipe is received as stdin
09:46:57PMunchSo just read from stdin like you would with regular user input
09:47:23adeohluwaI used rdstdin
09:47:31adeohluwareadLineFromStdin()
09:48:14PMunchhttps://nim-lang.org/docs/tut1.html
09:48:18PMunchCheck the first example there
09:49:16PMunchIf you compile that and call it with echo "adeohluwa" | myprogram it will output the prompt immediately followed by "Hi, adeohluwa" before quitting
09:50:32PMunchSame with readLineFromStdin
09:50:50PMunchBut for some reason you won't even see the prompt
09:51:17PMunchhttp://ix.io/XM0/
09:52:09PMunchThat simple program when run with 'echo "adeohluwa" | ./test' would output "Hi, adeohluwa!"
09:53:01adeohluwaPMunch: works great here...thanks!
09:53:18PMunchNo problem :)
09:54:00adeohluwaone issue
09:54:10adeohluwathat only reads a single line of data
09:55:21PMunchYeah, readLineFromStdin
09:56:49AraqPMunch: good job on that PR.
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09:57:32PMunchAraq, thanks :)
09:57:47PMunchIt's basically just an adaption of the trick I've been using to make it work in my own code
09:59:23PMunchadeohluwa, when piping to stdin it will send an EOF at the end of the input. So you can use readAll(stdin) to read the entire pipe into your program
10:01:11PMunchAnd if you want to check if it is something being piped in or if it's a terminal stdin you can use isatty from the terminal module
10:02:23adeohluwareadAll() takes a file type
10:02:32PMunchYeah stdin is a File
10:03:00adeohluwaPMunch: is there a way to read entire stdin as one string
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10:03:42PMunchSo this little program will read only from a pipe and echo an error if it's not a pipe: http://ix.io/XM7/
10:03:55PMunchAnd it will read it all in as one string as you can see
10:05:05PMunchCalling readAll on the regular terminal stdin is not a very good idea because your user must then add an EOF to the input for it to get past it. So you should do the pipe check with isatty before calling it.
10:07:30adeohluwaoh...okay
10:07:33adeohluwaI get it now
10:07:46FromGitter<mratsim> So OcaML is considering borrow-checking? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16597329
10:08:04adeohluwaPMunch: thanks a bunch
10:08:25PMunchadeohluwa, no problem :)
10:12:42Araqmratsim: yeah, I've read that paper a week ago
10:49:40FromGitter<mratsim> While people are complaining about inclusive range in Nim, Rust added their inclusive range operator `..=` https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/84qheq/inclusive_ranges_with_are_stable/
10:53:46federico3anybody using msgpack?
10:54:39def-federico3: yes, in python. I played around with using them in nim too, but long ago
11:01:01federico3the lib named msgpack seems to be broken :-/
11:11:52GitDisc<Lite5h4dow> is libx the only UI library that is compatible with android?
11:17:03GitDisc<Lite5h4dow> nimx*
11:17:50PMunchWell, pure SDL works
11:18:02PMunchSo anything you can run on SDL or OpenGL should work as well
11:18:23PMunchPlus you might even be able to create something with Karax and a simple web-wrapper
11:18:46PMunchNuklear for example should work
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11:42:14livcdis there a pet project that uses karax besides the examples in the karax repo ?
11:46:57PMunchdochack appears to use it
11:47:05PMunchtools/dochack
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11:50:10Araqdochack predates karax
11:52:13livcdNo idea what's dochack
11:52:35PMunchMe neither, it just appeared when I searched for karax
11:52:40PMunchAnd it appears to import it :P
11:52:47PMunchNot that I can get it to run..
12:05:01Araqiirc it uses a module named 'karax'
12:05:08Araqbut not the karax nimble package
12:05:15Araqmaybe I misremember
12:05:48Araqanyway, karax is used for closed source applications, don't know of any open source apps
12:06:03FromGitter<zacharycarter> nim playground :D
12:06:12FromGitter<zacharycarter> I'm also using it in my personal blog I'm making
12:09:06Araqoh cool.
12:09:18Araqwasn't aware nim playground uses it :-)
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12:10:51FromGitter<zacharycarter> yup!
12:13:40livcdnim playground uses it ? but i do not see it in the repo
12:14:35Yardanicowait, does it really use karax?
12:14:44YardanicoI can't find it in the repo
12:15:17YardanicoAh, I'm stupid
12:15:21Yardanicohttps://github.com/zacharycarter/nim-playground-frontend
12:15:32Yardanicohttps://github.com/zacharycarter/nim-playground-frontend/blob/master/src/app.nim#L85
12:15:49livcdahh this one
12:18:33GitDisc<Lite5h4dow> @Araq the version of SDL2.dll in the nim package is out of date or something
12:18:57GitDisc<Lite5h4dow> nimx just wont load unless i manually add the newest version of it
12:19:18GitDisc<Lite5h4dow> ik its not your library but a dependancy is out of date so i thought i should let you know
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12:31:08AraqLite5hh4dow: wasn't aware SDL2.dll is shipped with Nim but ok
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13:07:11GitDisc<Lite5h4dow> its in the main folder.
13:07:25GitDisc<Lite5h4dow> unless it came with another plugin
13:07:37GitDisc<Lite5h4dow> ints not in the source for nimx
13:07:44GitDisc<Lite5h4dow> its not in the source for nimx
13:08:45GitDisc<Lite5h4dow> does anyone here that knows how to use nuklear have any spare time?
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13:16:50leorizeanyone here have been fiddling around with --newruntime?
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13:26:02FromGitter<alehander42> does anybody finds an update many fields macro useful? ⏎ similar to ⏎ ⏎ ```a = A(e: 4, f: 2) ⏎ a.update: ⏎ e = 2 ⏎ f = -4``` ⏎ ... [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5aabc5eaf3f6d24c68806611]
13:27:27FromGitter<alehander42> PR it* (but maybe its not suitable for stdlib)
13:27:52Araqthe stdlib needs sugar.nim :-)
13:28:01FromGitter<mratsim> @leorize I did but it was a few months ago.
13:28:11FromGitter<alehander42> I thought future.nim is sugar.nim :P
13:28:25FromGitter<mratsim> future might be removed or change
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13:28:58FromGitter<alehander42> that's the joke (but it accidentaly includes mostly similar macros)
13:29:13FromGitter<alehander42> oh man, I just find about dump, I am sure, I've written versions of that before
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13:39:08leorizeI've been playing with --newruntime for a C lib wrapper but got hit with this https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/7345
13:39:57Araqyeah --newruntime is shit
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13:43:10leorizeAraq: it's quite useful actually, have you been actively working on it?
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13:54:58Mat4Hello, exist there a roadmap for future development ?
13:57:14FromGitter<zacharycarter> https://github.com/nim-lang/nim/wiki/roadmap
13:57:20FromGitter<zacharycarter> not sure how up to date it is
13:57:31Mat4thanks
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14:17:56Araqleorize: I want to work on it again :-)
14:21:40Araqso ...
14:22:15Araqproc toOpenArray[T](x: ptr UncheckedArray[T]; len: int): openArray[T] {.magic: "ToOpenArray".}
14:22:16Araq?
14:22:37Araqthe name is a bit long
14:45:18FromGitter<dom96> Looks like Aporia compilation is broken under 0.18.0
14:45:28FromGitter<dom96> Seems like a possible compiler regression
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14:51:13Araqwhat's the error?
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15:05:38FromGitter<dom96> aporia.nim(1183, 37) Error: illegal capture 'currentPage'
15:06:46FromGitter<dom96> https://github.com/nim-lang/Aporia/blob/master/aporia.nim#L1183
15:18:51Araqmark the template as .dirty or move it below the 'var currentPage'
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15:23:29Araqcan anybody confirm https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/7326 ?
15:27:47PMunchThat it is an issue, or that his fix works?
15:29:04Araqboth. preferably "before" and "Later" screenshots
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15:29:24FromGitter<mratsim> wow this is awesome: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/7338
15:29:26PMunchI can confirm that it is an issue
15:29:44PMunchAnd that changing the background color to FDFBFA works as a fix
15:32:47Araqmratsim: yup :-)
15:35:40Araqso again ... toOpenArray?
15:37:02Araqslice?
15:40:26FromGitter<mratsim> huh? Who are you asking?
15:45:32FromGitter<mratsim> To be honest i don’t really like the openarray name though it has history in Pascal, Oberon, Modula, it looks so foreign to my naive eyes.
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15:45:44FromGitter<mratsim> Rust uses slice: https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/primitive.slice.html
15:45:56shashlick@mratsim I presume it is based on this
15:45:56FromGitter<mratsim> "Slices are a view into a block of memory represented as a pointer and a length."
15:46:15shashlickhttps://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/7337#issuecomment-373453594
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15:49:15FromGitter<mratsim> Or View mentionned by zielmicha here: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/5753
15:49:27FromGitter<mratsim> 4 or 5 letters doesn’t matter ;)
15:49:43shashlickI had two projects in mind, let me know which one is higher priority
15:53:13shashlick1. Check every nimble package daily with latest Nim head
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15:54:37shashlick2. Add more functions to the VM / nimscript
15:55:54FromGitter<mratsim> I vote for 1
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15:57:32FromGitter<alehander42> just IMHO view sounds more intuitive (but slice is used as a termin in rust & go so it might be more accessible)
15:57:46FromGitter<alehander42> I like 1 too, sounds very useful
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15:58:47shashlickIdeally all nimble package come with test cases, else could just run a check on each Nim file
15:59:04FromGitter<dom96> Araq: tried moving it below, also tried marking with {.dirty.}
15:59:08FromGitter<dom96> Both didn't work
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16:01:50FromGitter<mratsim> @shashlick, yeah but ideally, all nimble packages test are triggered by `nimble test`
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16:03:19FromGitter<mratsim> Btw I feel like https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/5437 and https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/5753 are about the same thing with https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/7337 drifting closely in the same area.
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16:04:54shashlickYa but there's always special packages that need stars aligned to test - some dll required or other untracked dependency
16:06:03shashlick2 votes for 1, any for 2?
16:07:44FromGitter<dom96> shashlick: pretty sure federico3's site already does something similar to #1
16:08:51shashlickNot aware of it dom96
16:09:32FromGitter<dom96> https://nimble.directory
16:12:22shashlickI see, that's great. So looks like #2 wins by default
16:13:06shashlickWere there already issues on VM enhancements
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16:20:46FromGitter<dom96> you could improve Nimble's API :)
16:22:07shashlickIs there an issue on that
16:24:37FromGitter<alehander42> wow I haven't seen the new nimble directory
16:24:39FromGitter<alehander42> very nice
16:24:46FromGitter<alehander42> why wasn't there a post about it
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16:26:08leorizeAraq: Is there anything I can do to help with --newruntime? Pointers are welcome as I'm not familiar with Nim source code.
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16:53:36FromGitter<gogolxdong> How to iterate an array with index?
16:54:21FromGitter<mratsim> for i in yourarray: doSomeInterestingStuff(yourarray[i]) ?
16:54:50ieatnerdsthat should do it
16:55:11FromGitter<gogolxdong> Isn't i the element of the array?
16:55:49FromGitter<zacharycarter> yes
16:55:51FromGitter<brentp> is anyone else using holy-build-box to build distributable executables? I have something that works for 0.17.2, but fails with 0.18.0, I think due to the addition of linenoise which depends on epoll. epoll is apparently not in centos 5.
16:55:57ieatnerdsactually might be, i know it would be for a seq...
16:55:59FromGitter<zacharycarter> ```let foo = [1,2,3] ⏎ ⏎ for i in 0..<foo.len: ⏎ echo foo[i]``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5aabf71e8f1c77ef3acaddc2]
16:57:01FromGitter<zacharycarter> same issue with seq
16:57:11FromGitter<zacharycarter> @gogolxdong
16:58:32FromGitter<brentp> here is the error I get, in case it helps ⏎ ⏎ ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5aabf7b7bb1018b37af0a787]
16:59:47FromGitter<gogolxdong> yes,thanks for helping @zacharycarter
17:01:00FromGitter<mratsim> uh yes sorry
17:01:19FromGitter<mratsim> for i, v in yourarray: would give you the index and the value
17:02:00FromGitter<gogolxdong> seems not apply to JsonArray?
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17:07:52FromGitter<data-man> @shashlick: more details for 2, please
17:13:05FromGitter<zacharycarter> question - why are objects returned from C FFI sometimes with angled brackets around them
17:13:12FromGitter<zacharycarter> so instead of getting like ptr SomeType
17:13:17FromGitter<zacharycarter> I get - <ptr SomeType>
17:15:33FromGitter<zacharycarter> ah nevermind
17:15:35FromGitter<zacharycarter> I'm just being stupid
17:17:54shashlick@data-man: thinking of adding more procs to nimscript so you can do more fun things in scripts without having to compile
17:18:21shashlickan alternative idea is to help get more modules to work in the VM (i.e. in nimscripts or during macro execution)
17:19:03shashlickbut i don't know how easy it is :)
17:19:34shashlicksome of it seems straightforward - https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/5ea80b43b1805003d8c06ac5122c6e698c959f52/compiler/scriptconfig.nim#L55
17:20:11shashlickbut not sure about getting more complex stdlib modules working in the VM
17:21:35FromGitter<data-man> @shashlick: I vote for 2 :)
17:26:09shashlickso looks like #2 is also multi-part - 2.1 getting more functionality into nimscript and 2.2 getting some specific stdlib module working in the VM
17:26:34shashlickneed guidance on whether this is valuable and if there's already some known issues tracking this somewhat
17:27:00FromGitter<zacharycarter> https://github.com/zacharycarter/nim-sass
17:29:08shashlicknice work @zacharycarter
17:29:21FromGitter<zacharycarter> thx
17:29:25shashlickdon't see the nimgen artifacts
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17:30:06FromGitter<zacharycarter> yeah - I didn't include the nimgen cfg - I had to do some stuff manually (wasn't sure how to make the required source modifications using nimgen)
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17:32:30shashlickwhat kind of changes?
17:32:44FromGitter<zacharycarter> let me try to find the blocks of code that were giving me issue
17:33:15FromGitter<zacharycarter> these typedef statements here : https://github.com/sass/libsass/blob/master/include/sass/functions.h#L23-L41
17:33:25FromGitter<zacharycarter> the parentheses around the alias screw up c2nim
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17:46:26shashlickam wondering how nimgen could help
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17:51:32shashlickI can do regex replaces within nimgen https://github.com/genotrance/nimgen/blob/6d0abefe8a3c3bb060941cd664fc66dc3cefbd21/nimgen.nim#L223
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17:52:02shashlickneed to do a regex search from the cfg file
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17:52:36shashlicklike searchregex = "typedef struct (.?) ((.?));" or something
17:53:06brainproxyseems like nim-mode keeps getting confused, i installed w/ melpa and did the basic setup per the readme; nimsuggest and flycheck are working, but if there's a problem and I fix it, sometimes the buffer gets stuck w/ highlighted lines and there are still error messages even though the offending code is gone or fixed
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17:55:30shashlicknot available today - typedef struct (.?) ((.?));"
17:55:36shashlickhttps://github.com/genotrance/nimgen/issues/2
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18:46:37FromGitter<dandevelo> I am looking to generate an xml file with Nim based on a template. Where should I start?
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19:10:07fvshttps://nim-lang.org/docs/lib.html#pure-libraries-xml-processing
19:19:45FromGitter<dandevelo> Thanks @fvs!
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23:05:53Araqleorize: the transformation is in "destroyer.nim"
23:06:51Araqsemasgn contains the lifting of '=' etc to compound types
23:07:43Araqthese are pretty much the only files that are concerned with destructor injections and move optimizations
23:07:50Araqfor --newruntime
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