<< 16-05-2024 >>
00:02:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> For destroy you could use finalizers/destructors
00:02:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You really should just use valgrind with `-d:useMalloc`
00:11:27FromDiscord<bulletxbt> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=dAWKqqUE
00:12:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `setPosition`
00:12:26FromDiscord<bulletxbt> Literally just saw it in the docs
00:12:29FromDiscord<bulletxbt> Idk how I missed it
00:12:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Reading is hard
00:12:50FromDiscord<bulletxbt> With 2hr sleep yeah
00:19:33FromDiscord<xkonti> In reply to @sys64 "Is it normal I": I get that roughly 15 times an hour. VsCode connected to WSL2.↵Purely on Windows, NimSuggest doesn't even try. It just crashes 100% of time.
00:20:34FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @xkonti "I get that roughly": very weird!↵Well, this is the Nim's big con
00:21:46FromDiscord<xkonti> In reply to @sys64 "very weird! Well, this": Yup 😦
00:32:03FromDiscord<bulletxbt> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=lNlgUkwh
00:33:35FromDiscord<polylokh_39446> sounds like that .getInt is returning 0
00:33:39FromDiscord<bulletxbt> `info["offset"].getInt` is returning 0
00:33:53FromDiscord<bulletxbt> But I get JsonNode errors when I don't use .getInt
00:34:49FromDiscord<bulletxbt> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=EQLcbztq
00:34:55FromDiscord<polylokh_39446> .getInt returns 0 if it's not a JInt. Probably because it's a string
00:35:24FromDiscord<polylokh_39446> try `.getStr.parseInt`
00:36:24FromDiscord<bulletxbt> In reply to @polylokh_39446 "try `.getStr.parseInt`": `undeclared field: 'getInt' for type system.string`
00:36:38FromDiscord<polylokh_39446> ok, now try .getStr.parseInt
00:37:22FromDiscord<polylokh_39446> parseInt is provided by strutils
00:38:12FromDiscord<bulletxbt> In reply to @polylokh_39446 "ok, now try .getStr.parseInt": Worked :)
00:38:13FromDiscord<bulletxbt> Thanks
00:38:15FromDiscord<polylokh_39446> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=HilwrjGi
00:52:08FromDiscord<zumi.dxy> In reply to @xkonti "I get that roughly": i think its problem is that it polls continuously and it can't exactly handle incomplete syntax
00:52:28FromDiscord<zumi.dxy> yet, hopefully
01:10:51FromDiscord<__nycto__> In reply to @Elegantbeef "For destroy you could": Is there a generic way to do this for all types?
01:11:31FromDiscord<__nycto__> In reply to @Elegantbeef "You really should just": I’m integrating with an emulator that has its own allocators, which has made this tougher than I was expecting
01:11:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nope sadly not
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01:28:01FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> what could make `HashSet[Path].items` fail as if it didn't exist, but `HashSet[Path].pairs` work normally?
01:30:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Are you explicitly calling the iterator inside a generic?
01:37:28FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> nope, afaik. its in a for loop
01:42:03FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=QvUdwQCr
01:42:46FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=uZBsvSAY" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=UmVzehsT"
01:57:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> and does `connectors.items` work?
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04:19:55FromDiscord<odexine> How do you import sets
04:20:07FromDiscord<odexine> Maybe you excluded it by mistake
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04:36:55FromDiscord<horizon.firefly> Is there smth like .replace() in nim
04:37:02FromDiscord<horizon.firefly> For strings
04:37:52FromDiscord<horizon.firefly> So like `"abcd".replace("cd", "ba")`
04:38:10FromDiscord<horizon.firefly> (edit) ""ba")`" => ""ba") = "abba"`"
04:39:37FromDiscord<polylokh_39446> strutils has that
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04:46:57FromDiscord<horizon.firefly> In reply to @polylokh_39446 "strutils has that": Aight ty
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05:31:38FromDiscord<brotherbrother1> Hey everyone, in windows. I dont succeed to list other running process by name and pid.↵do you think its possible with nim ?
06:19:08PMunch@brotherbrother1, you should be able to do something like this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4102569/get-process-name-from-process-id-win32
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06:19:35PMunchUsing either winim if things are wrapper there, or Futhark to automatically wrap the required headers
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06:55:53FromDiscord<m4ul3r> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=FhmWKEMT
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07:59:28FromDiscord<gogolxdong666> https://github.com/huggingface/lerobot
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08:28:27FromDiscord<brotherbrother1> In reply to @PMunch "<@986206304584491069>, you should be": @m4ul3r and @pmunch , thank you very much for your usefull and fast response !!↵↵I will test that right now!
09:07:37FromDiscord<jmgomez> In reply to @sys64 "I just open VS": the issue is with your code, not because you open vscode 🙂
09:11:27FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @jmgomez "the issue is with": My code is fine?
09:13:57FromDiscord<jmgomez> In reply to @sys64 "My code is fine?": so nimsuggest doesnt crash?
09:24:01FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @jmgomez "so nimsuggest doesnt crash?": It does↵And I don't have good autocompletion
09:27:44FromDiscord<jmgomez> So fill an issue with the code that makes it crash
09:27:53FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=VJdTdfpi
09:27:57FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Is that normal?
09:28:31FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> this file is stored in /usr/lib/nim
09:29:44FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> I wonder if it's the reason, and if it's possible to override this path
09:38:08FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> I think using the right path would solve the problem
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09:42:54FromDiscord<goerge_lsd> simplest way to set -d:ssl in project settings :-?
09:43:44FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @jmgomez "So fill an issue": I think I solved the issue??↵https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/23201
09:45:08FromDiscord<polylokh_39446> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=PPUDGYmD
09:46:00FromDiscord<polylokh_39446> <https://nim-lang.org/docs/nimc.html#compiler-usage-configuration-files>
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09:54:48FromDiscord<jmgomez> In reply to @sys64 "I think I solved": does the solution work for you then?
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10:26:29FromDiscord<dawidek.2137> is there a command in nimble to "install" the project I am working on (just like you would install an external library) or do I have to expose the generated binaries to system path myself?
10:26:50FromDiscord<nnsee> er, `nimble install`?
10:27:15FromDiscord<dawidek.2137> 🤦
10:30:30FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @jmgomez "does the solution work": Yes!
10:30:46FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> I finally have autocompletion!
10:57:48FromDiscord<ravinder387> what is NimNode?
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11:29:01FromDiscord<Zoom> It's an object, representing a node in an abstract syntax tree - a data structure used to parse, manipulate and compile Nim.↵(@ravinder387)
11:31:50FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Is it a good idea to do an iterator that yelds mutable objects?
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11:43:45FromDiscord<griffith1deadly> In reply to @sys64 "Is it a good": depends of use case
11:44:07FromDiscord<griffith1deadly> if object very big - maybe good, because dont cause copies
12:02:42FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @griffith1deadly "if object very big": I want the object to be mutable↵It's an array of Colors, and I wrote some converters
12:17:05FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=BGHjvxLo
12:18:02FromDiscord<daichimpo> Who the mods?
12:18:54FromDiscord<daichimpo> <@&371760044473319454> got a steam scam DM from a user here
12:19:42FromDiscord<pmunch> Did you report the user to Discord?
12:19:46FromDiscord<daichimpo> Ye
12:19:57FromDiscord<pmunch> Could you PM me the username?
12:21:50FromDiscord<daichimpo> Done
12:22:01FromDiscord<daichimpo> Thanks, Munch!
12:22:34FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=sTAJIGVC
12:27:20FromDiscord<nervecenter> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=vrLVOnYb
12:28:21FromDiscord<nervecenter> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=CHAAcvvJ
12:29:30FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @nervecenter "You may need to": ``invalid type: 'openArray[Color]' for var``
12:30:31FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=IJEarKGd
12:30:49FromDiscord<nervecenter> Should probably be a `seq` then, `openarray` is technically just a receptor for either `array` or `seq`
12:32:20FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @nervecenter "Should probably be a": and what if I implement an iterator in my Span object?
12:36:28FromDiscord<nervecenter> What's the point of it? To give a window into a raw array from a pointer?
12:36:37FromDiscord<nervecenter> A "slice" so to speak?
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12:37:33FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Here is how to implement an iterator:↵https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#iterators-and-the-for-statement
12:53:36FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> thanks!
12:53:43FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Bruh fuck CPU endianess
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13:53:51Amun-Rachainsaw it even
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14:03:52FromDiscord<pmunch> In reply to @sys64 "Bruh fuck CPU endianess": Without endianess all the bits would just be stored in a big jumble!
14:03:57FromDiscord<pmunch> That'd be terrible!
14:06:55FromDiscord<odexine> mixed endian
14:07:06FromDiscord<odexine> every odd byte is little, every even byte is big
14:07:52FromDiscord<zidsal> everything should use big endian as bigger is always better
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14:09:25FromDiscord<odexine> bigger endian↵across 8 bytes, all LSBs are on byte 1, next on byte 2, until MSB on byte 8
14:16:17FromDiscord<zidsal> I think endian should be tied to daylight savings of the server. little endian if we're +1 hour ahead else +0. servers on time zones without daylight savings are undefined behaviour and are left to the implementation detail of the server
14:25:33FromDiscord<odexine> RIP asia
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14:35:03strogon14I promote use of the imperial byte, which is 12 bits.
14:36:13FromDiscord<odexine> 12 sounds neat for imperial. try 11.647
14:36:32strogon141 foot = 12 inch
14:36:45FromDiscord<odexine> bit isnt imperial
14:36:50FromDiscord<odexine> 1 foot = ? cm
14:41:07Amun-Ra$1 = 1€
14:42:10FromDiscord<odexine> i dont know what the current values for both are
14:42:21Amun-Rasame
14:42:28*Amun-Ra lives in non-euro country
14:44:04FromDiscord<odexine> lives in neither-europe-nor-north-america
14:44:20strogon14$ = € * 1.085
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14:48:02FromDiscord<odexine> lets make that the constant for the imperial bit
14:48:16FromDiscord<odexine> imperial bit = SI bit 1.085
14:48:30FromDiscord<odexine> then an imperial byte can be 12 imperial bits
14:49:12Amun-Raand imperial yardbyte 60 imperial bytes
14:50:57FromDiscord<odexine> sounds great
14:51:08Amun-Raand fun
14:51:14FromDiscord<odexine> why note call it a yarte
14:51:16FromDiscord<odexine> not
14:51:19Amun-Ra:P
14:51:28FromDiscord<odexine> then a myle
14:51:38Amun-Rayarte looks british to me, let's call it yart
14:51:47FromDiscord<odexine> isnt imperial british
14:52:17Amun-Rayes, but some uk and us units differ
14:52:58FromDiscord<odexine> oh does that mean we'll have long bytes and short bytes too then
14:53:01Amun-Raounce, gallon, cup…
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14:56:20Amun-Ralet's 1 implerial nibble be an 1/3 of imperial byte
14:58:00FromDiscord<odexine> implerial sounds cool as a new kind of unit category ngl
14:58:52Amun-Raright, until you look in the details
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17:44:59FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=JKZukiVS
17:45:40FromDiscord<zidsal> just because you can make custom dsl's doesn't mean you should make custom dsls at every opportunity
17:46:35FromDiscord<nervecenter> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=bcZCLJgC
17:47:36FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @nervecenter "Just use `add` without": Oh wait, you don't have to use the ``()``?
17:48:22FromDiscord<nervecenter> Not if it's just one argument, or a second argument but the first is using UFCS
17:48:34FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> what is UFCS?
17:49:12FromDiscord<nervecenter> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=LqrXedmb
17:49:21FromDiscord<nervecenter> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=vcWZwCXH" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=dAcTazLS"
17:49:52FromDiscord<nervecenter> First arguments can be brought out front and the proc/func can be called almost like a method
17:50:04FromDiscord<nervecenter> This allows for easy chaining so long as the return types check out
17:50:46FromDiscord<threefour> And they are equivalent. One's not necessarily better than the other.
17:50:46FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Ah yeah
17:50:54FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> they're equivalent
17:51:00FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> just different notations
17:51:08FromDiscord<nervecenter> In reply to @threefour "And they are equivalent.": Situational, and the use should be appropriate to the context, as with everything
18:00:04FromDiscord<polylokh_39446> dropping the parens isn't about UFCS though, but about <https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#procedures-command-invocation-syntax>
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18:36:13FromDiscord<.bobbbob> why might defer: db.close() work in debug mode but not in release mode?
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18:44:42FromDiscord<morgan> are nimble tasks available in a repo which imports the package?
18:44:58FromDiscord<morgan> i am guessing no
18:45:52FromDiscord<morgan> i am splitting out my clap bindings from my plugin framework, and for the bindings, i'd like to have a nimble task to bundle the executable
18:46:06FromDiscord<morgan> i suppose i could write it as its own nimscript file though
18:46:49FromDiscord<morgan> but i'd like to have it in the bindings package, be usable in the framework package which imports the bindings, and if someone imports the framework library, to still have it be usable
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19:13:28FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @morganalyssa "are nimble tasks available": You could make a hybrid package and then the main package would have the tasks available as a command perhaps?
19:13:57FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Or you could write a file that isn't imported by the main package, and is imported in the nimble file itself
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19:17:10FromDiscord<morgan> oh hm yea having it build a binary thats then made available
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19:32:48FromDiscord<morgan> either way it's cool to finally release a package
19:33:25FromDiscord<morgan> and i can pull that code out of my plugin framework and restructure its code a bit
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19:46:09FromDiscord<grumblygibson> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=eVWMTPqt
20:07:45FromDiscord<kdot_227> # Teen content and onlyfans leaks here :peach: :underage: : https://discord.gg/xxxhubs @everyone @here
20:08:27FromDiscord<kdot_227> # Teen content and onlyfans leaks here :peach: :underage: : https://discord.gg/xxxhubs @everyone @here
20:10:11FromDiscord<griffith1deadly> <@&371760044473319454>
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20:14:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Damn that was a real user at a pooint
20:14:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> point\
20:14:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Seems their account was compromised
20:18:55Amun-Rahmm
20:19:20FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I figured they just were making bot accounts
20:30:26NimEventerNew Nimble package! clap - Clap audio plugin bindings, see https://github.com/morganholly/nim-clap
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20:38:22strogon14morgan: congrats on getting your package released.
20:38:22strogon14I would consider changing the name 'nimplugin' to something more specific, though.
20:39:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I still like the dumb idea to name it quarterinch
20:39:36strogon14or pluck
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20:43:39FromDiscord<morgan> it's now called offbeat
20:43:49FromDiscord<morgan> im still renaming stuff
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20:46:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I don't see any git tags! https://github.com/beef331/graffiti
20:47:43FromDiscord<morgan> yea i should
20:48:45FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I religiously use graffiti after any commit, like someone that is holding on tight for sensible builds
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20:55:57FromDiscord<threefour> Do you have it in a Git hook?
20:56:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I have thought about it 😄
20:57:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I do have a git hook to run `nimble test --silent` on a commit
20:58:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=oiKLFLto
20:59:40FromDiscord<horizon.firefly> how do I remove the first 2 lines in a multiline string
21:00:45FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @morganalyssa "either way it's cool": Fair! I've released a few ~~but don't know if anyone has actually used em~~
21:02:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `std/strutils` has `delete`
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21:08:40FromDiscord<morgan> In reply to @morganalyssa "it's now called offbeat": i added build instructions to offbeat and nim-clap, but the bundling part is just for mac at the moment
21:11:19FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Random question: How hard would it be to make it so that the AST of an unchanged Nim file could be loaded from a cache instead of parsing the code and simplifying it?
21:11:33FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Is that possible? Or do generics and macros ruin that?
21:11:47FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> As well as compile time variables I'd imagine
21:11:57FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> ...and code that uses `staticRead` ig
21:13:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The amount of times you've asked about IC indirectly robyn is too often
21:14:11FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I know :>
21:14:34FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> This time it's on purpose
21:14:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim uses pointers for the AST so it's not possible without fixing the pointers
21:15:18FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> As in the ref objects and such?
21:15:32FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> `PNode = ref TNode`, etc
21:19:51FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Right
21:20:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim uses pointer equality as matching for many things
21:20:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Which means to have IC work without changing to a packed AST you need to remap pointers to their proper values
21:21:06FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Wouldn't that be possible to fix via `NodeIndex`es and such? I think Nimskull talked about it, is there a reason why it's not already done?
21:21:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I mean that requires rewriting to a packed DOD AST
21:21:34FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Ah
21:21:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim does have a packed AST for the IC but only for serialization
21:21:50FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Via rod files?
21:21:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yes
21:21:57FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Weren't those also very buggy anyway?
21:22:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No?
21:22:19FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> not buggy, incomplete
21:22:29FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well yea cause IC is not done
21:22:40FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Fair enough
21:22:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Araq keeps working on other things, and we don't even know what he's working on now
21:23:15FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> So if it does get done, it'd be done by the community and likely not him?
21:24:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'm not going to say anything for certain, but yea there are few public commits in Araq
21:25:16FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Yeah fair enough
21:25:20FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Oh well
21:25:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> As it stands I think Ringabout now makes the most PRs
21:26:22FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Yeah I remember
21:26:34FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I seen their commits and fixes semi-often
21:30:04FromDiscord<.bobbbob> god I finally found the fucking problem, I was sending image data to ImageMagick through execCmdEx with a pipe but if two threads did that at the same time imagemagick got stuck in an infinite loop for some reason, causing the db to never close and the client to eventually time out and of course no error message printed, so I write it to a tmp file first and it works
21:37:26FromDiscord<brotherbrother1> Hey everyone, do you know how to deals with TLS/SSL in nim ?↵I dont see easy way to do that 😦
21:37:57FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @brotherbrother1 "Hey everyone, do you": what’s the context?
21:38:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `SSLContext` 😛
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21:39:05FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> you may want to look at nim-bearssl and how its used by e.g. nim-chronos if you don’t want to involve OpenSSL
21:39:45FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @Elegantbeef "`SSLContext` 😛": i knew that was coming, was counting down from 10, only got to 6
21:39:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I forgive you
21:42:46FromDiscord<brotherbrother1> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/kCezwZJy
21:43:23FromDiscord<brotherbrother1> it was not nice with the additionnals DLL of openssl
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21:48:52FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @brotherbrother1 "it was not nice": maybe give nim-websock a look: https://github.com/status-im/nim-websock
21:49:14FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> it uses chronos so bearssl will be baked in
21:49:26FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @michaelb.eth "you may want to": BearSSL itself doesn't seem like it has many recent commits, isn't that Not Great™️ with a project regarding internet security?
21:49:34FromDiscord<brotherbrother1> In reply to @michaelb.eth "i knew that was": I think i already find this library but i dont find a usefull example to use socket with it
21:49:58FromDiscord<brotherbrother1> So i stop using it
21:50:53FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "BearSSL itself doesn't seem": just depends, if it has implemented the functionality correctly for the subset of tls it satisfies, there’s not necessarily much to do
21:53:02FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Fair
21:57:42FromDiscord<brotherbrother1> In reply to @michaelb.eth "maybe give nim-websock a": I will thank youuu !
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22:38:46FromDiscord<zidsal> @ElegantBeef I guess you'll need to make a new library just to use the name quarterinch
22:39:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nah I do not do VST plugins
22:40:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It only makes sense as an audio plugin or a dick joke!
22:40:37FromDiscord<zidsal> I was about to suggest the later but decided against it
22:41:03FromDiscord<zidsal> I'm going to go brainstorm library ideas that can use the name quarterinch
22:44:37FromDiscord<zidsal> congrats elegentbeef you're now writing a digital signal processing library and calling it quarterinch
22:45:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Insert sad lion meme here
22:45:52FromDiscord<zidsal> I legitimately just signed up for a chatgpt account just to ask for suggestions
22:46:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'm sorry for your loss
22:46:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's not a name searching for a library
22:46:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It was a library searching for a name
22:46:56FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Quarter inch for a audio plugin is obscure enough that it tickles my brain
22:47:03FromDiscord<zidsal> tell me with a straight face that you don't just make librarys because you thin of cool names
22:47:10FromDiscord<zidsal> (edit) "thin" => "think"
22:47:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I don't
22:47:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Though I did make an image comparison library like diffimg named pam for testing my game's rendering
22:47:35FromDiscord<zidsal> well played sir, I can't currently see your face
22:47:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Pam is a great name for an image diff library
22:48:35FromDiscord<zidsal> testing? we do that here? I thought we just slapped an early access label on it and charged users for the opportunity to test for you
22:49:44FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @zidsal "tell me with a": For me it's the other way around :)
22:50:07FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Napkins for a library describing a packet format for a protocol :P
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22:54:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I just like puns or obscure names
22:54:54FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Like Traitor? :p
22:55:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yes
22:55:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Kashae, Micros, Gooey, Seeya, Dodger, ....
22:56:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The aforementioned Graffiti is the best methinks
22:56:59FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Lol
22:57:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Dodger might be a bit of a think, but idk
22:57:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> "What does dodging have to do with matrix" is not a long path
23:02:24FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I never seen the movies and I can guess :p
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23:37:44strogon14Elegantbeef: btw, VST is the name of a specific audio plugin format, not a generic term for audio plugins. Though, I guess, it has become that in the minds of the computer audio users (not audio developers). Like we use "Tempo" as a generic term for paper handkerchiefs in Germany (I know US examples exists, but I don't know them off the top of my head).
23:38:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Kleenex is the Americanism for Tempo
23:38:20strogon14Ah, yes.
23:38:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's just genericized trademark
23:39:43strogon14Yeah, I think there's a specific term for those, but I can't remember/didn't find it.
23:42:03strogon14Anyway, today VST is just one format (though the the one with overwhelmingly the most support) amongst about half a dozen (AU, CLAP, LV2, whatever Protools uses, etc.)
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