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| 19:45:07 | EXetoC | wrapping C libs is easy as pi |
| 19:45:38 | gradha | ?? |
| 19:46:00 | gradha | as long as your C lib doesn't use funny macros, yes |
| 19:48:36 | gradha | q66: I'm going to get a rift, want me to test your engine? |
| 19:49:31 | q66 | gradha, there is no support yet whatsoever |
| 19:50:07 | gradha | oh, I understood the upstream author had already done some work on it |
| 19:50:16 | q66 | not yet |
| 19:50:32 | EXetoC | not so much in the public interfaces though, right? or maybe I've just been lucky. I'm wrapping a very simple lib now |
| 19:53:45 | EXetoC | actually, I've only wrapped ao and SDL, and SDL has complicated macros that define flags |
| 19:54:13 | gradha | hmm... I thought fowl had already wrapped SDL, is this the new 2.0 version? |
| 19:54:28 | EXetoC | no, this was for another language |
| 19:54:48 | EXetoC | not that it matters too much |
| 19:57:52 | EXetoC | expanding the macros would've helped |
| 19:58:28 | gradha | using cpp can be of help to look at the final version of the headers |
| 19:58:44 | EXetoC | yeah |
| 19:58:52 | gradha | maybe you should try wrapping http://polycode.org to write code in nimrod instead of c++ |
| 19:59:59 | EXetoC | I abandoned C++ about 3 years ago :> |
| 20:02:23 | gradha | nobody seems to have noticed yet that c++ templates are a conspiracy to turn humans into compiler error parsers |
| 20:07:55 | gradha | writing temp[i] = chr(int(temp[i]) + 1) to rot13 characters seems long, is there a shortcut? |
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| 20:18:01 | gradha | hello zahary |
| 20:18:41 | zahary | hi |
| 20:19:13 | gradha | it seems your idetools --eval is a successful backdoor in the compiler |
| 20:19:44 | zahary | backdoor as in security? |
| 20:20:16 | gradha | nobody else knows what it is meant to do, so it depends on you wanted it to do |
| 20:20:34 | gradha | *what you wanted* |
| 20:21:31 | zahary | very-long term, it should eval an expression in the context of the currently running/debugged user project |
| 20:21:47 | zahary | right now, it's supposed to just eval functions that you just wrote |
| 20:22:12 | gradha | so it's more of a debugging feature then? |
| 20:22:29 | gradha | kind of using it to change some variable while debugging? |
| 20:23:02 | zahary | you could see the videos for the various lisp and smalltalk environments for inspiration |
| 20:23:46 | gradha | I'll update doc the pull request to say it's still in development |
| 20:41:26 | gradha | Araq: sorry, pressed the wrong keys and now more wild changes have appeared at https://github.com/Araq/Nimrod/pull/486 |
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| 22:27:35 | EXetoC | const LibName = "libao.so" proc init*() {.importc: "ao_initialize", dynlib: LibName} init() -> "ERROR: Failed to load plugin /usr/lib/ao/plugins-4/libalsa.so => dlopen() failed" |
| 22:27:55 | EXetoC | am I doing something wrong? this works in D |
| 22:29:18 | EXetoC | that's ao_initialize trying to load libalsa.so |
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| 22:33:33 | dom96 | EXetoC: try adding a {.cdecl.} to your pragmas. |
| 22:34:44 | dom96 | Meh, that probably won't help actually. It only usually helps on Windows. |
| 22:35:25 | EXetoC | oh |
| 22:37:35 | dom96 | hrm, that's interesting. Maybe Nimrod's use of dlopen et al. conflicts with ao_initialize's dlopen |
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| 23:12:21 | EXetoC | haven't gotten it to work yet. strange issue |
| 23:12:31 | EXetoC | will try again tomorrow. cya |
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