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| 00:29:09 | watzon | Are there any libraries available yet that wrap V8 and allow you to actually use javascript within nim? |
| 00:32:24 | FromGitter | <Varriount> Watzon: I believe someone here was trying to wrap libcef |
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| 02:37:35 | def-pri-pub | I'm trying to work on some raylib bindings right now. |
| 02:39:09 | def-pri-pub | I'm trying to get all the linking stuff working first. |
| 02:39:27 | def-pri-pub | I'm able to compile but the program's giving me the message: |
| 02:39:29 | def-pri-pub | libraylib.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 02:39:29 | def-pri-pub | could not load: libraylib.so |
| 02:39:34 | def-pri-pub | ---- |
| 02:40:03 | def-pri-pub | I do have the .so in the same directory as the executable, and have tried adding the directory to the $PATH |
| 02:43:31 | def-pri-pub | Does anyone know what may be wrong here? |
| 02:47:21 | def-pri-pub | I have `const LIB_RAYLIB* = "libraylib.so"` at the top of the file, and each proc is bound using: |
| 02:47:42 | def-pri-pub | `{.importc, cdecl, dynlib: LIB_RAYLIB.}` |
| 02:48:10 | def-pri-pub | and `{.passL: "-lraylib".}` is at the top |
| 02:48:51 | def-pri-pub | I also tried switching out the .so with a static archive. Still didn't work and I got the same error message. |
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| 03:01:38 | def-pri-pub | setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH isn't helping either |
| 03:01:59 | def-pri-pub | running `ldd` on the executable also showed that `libraylib.so` wasn't linked |
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| 03:33:49 | FromGitter | <Varriount> Are access rights correct? |
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| 03:53:27 | def-pri-pub | Yeah, they are. |
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| 04:16:00 | def-pri-pub | I have to go to bed now, but if anyone could figure out what's wrong that would be appreciated |
| 04:16:03 | def-pri-pub | exit |
| 04:16:04 | def-pri-pub | dammit |
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| 04:21:55 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> damn |
| 04:22:06 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I missed def-pri-pub |
| 04:22:13 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I guess he doesn't know I'm in the middle of porting raylib :P |
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| 04:41:01 | FromGitter | <Varriount> ? |
| 04:41:26 | FromGitter | <Varriount> @zacharycarter What's raylib? |
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| 04:46:42 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> @Varriount http://www.raylib.com/ |
| 04:47:10 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> (https://files.gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim/YFsJ/Screen-Shot-2017-07-16-at-12.46.21-AM.png) |
| 04:55:59 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> http://github.com/zacharycarter/zengine is the code so far |
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| 05:02:51 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> any thoughts @Varriount ? |
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| 05:34:00 | Araq | hmmm the compiler depends on 'cookies.nim', wtf |
| 05:34:51 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> :D |
| 05:35:30 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> the compiler's making me hungry |
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| 06:51:26 | FromGitter | <ephja> what next? graphics.nim? ;) |
| 06:52:05 | Araq | nativesockets.nim ... |
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| 07:05:12 | FromGitter | <Varriount> @zacharycarter Well, as long as raylib doesn't restrict low-level opengl access, it looks like a good library. |
| 07:05:26 | FromGitter | <Varriount> I'm surprised I haven't heard of it before |
| 07:05:29 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> it does not |
| 07:06:47 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I have quite a bit ported already |
| 07:06:48 | FromGitter | <Varriount> @zacharycarter *gasp*, and it's written in C (or has a C front-end) |
| 07:06:57 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> all C :D |
| 07:07:11 | FromGitter | <Varriount> It reminds me of allegro, but in 3d |
| 07:07:33 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> yeah I think the author mentioned they drew some inspiration from allegro |
| 07:07:40 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I could be mistaken though |
| 07:09:16 | FromGitter | <Varriount> And it doesn't have the odd convention of making type names LIKE_THIS |
| 07:11:00 | FromGitter | <Varriount> @zacharycarter I take it you've abandoned bgfx? |
| 07:12:45 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> for this project yes |
| 07:12:52 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> for the moment anyway |
| 07:13:06 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I think I could still add it back into this project fairly easily |
| 07:13:12 | FromGitter | <Varriount> It seemed to be giving you a bunch of trouble |
| 07:14:44 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> well, I think it made getting going with frag a bear for new users |
| 07:14:58 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> this project only requires opengl and sdl2 |
| 07:15:02 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> not even glm |
| 07:15:24 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> if anyone wants to clone it / play around with it |
| 07:15:40 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> left shift pans the camera and left shift + alt rotates |
| 07:15:43 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> mouse wheel zooms |
| 07:16:28 | FromGitter | <Varriount> And it requires raylib? Or is that included? |
| 07:16:34 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> it doesn't |
| 07:16:36 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> it's all nim |
| 07:16:58 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> https://github.com/zacharycarter/zengine |
| 07:17:30 | FromGitter | <Varriount> Ah, you're porting raylib? |
| 07:17:42 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> portions of it |
| 07:17:45 | FromGitter | <Varriount> Or basing your API on it |
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| 07:17:51 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> more of the latter |
| 07:18:56 | tankfeeder | my sha3 implementation is ready, pass all test vectors |
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| 07:19:42 | tankfeeder | will add KangarooTwelve next week |
| 07:19:44 | FromGitter | <Varriount> tankfeeder: How does it compare with the other sha3 implementations? |
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| 07:21:10 | tankfeeder | its on nim and i trust it |
| 07:21:56 | FromGitter | <Varriount> I mean, there are other sha* libraries on Nimble, but they aren't exactly easy to use |
| 07:22:45 | tankfeeder | i dont care libraries, i like cook cake myself |
| 07:26:18 | tankfeeder | https://bitbucket.org/mihailp/sha3/src/default |
| 07:26:29 | tankfeeder | comments are always welcome |
| 07:37:21 | FromGitter | <Varriount> tankfeeder: An API like https://nim-lang.org/docs/hashes.html |
| 07:37:31 | FromGitter | <Varriount> Might be easier for people to use |
| 07:38:11 | Araq | yay, sha3, I need it soon |
| 07:39:51 | FromGitter | <Varriount> Araq: I've been using some other libraries on Nimble for my aws wrapper |
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| 07:53:38 | Araq | varriount: I ported the full compiler to use immutable strings ... |
| 07:53:48 | Araq | it doesn't crash but is unusably slow :-) |
| 07:54:07 | Araq | it's just some bug though |
| 07:54:31 | Araq | still no performance numbers :-( |
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| 08:02:38 | FromGitter | <Varriount> O: |
| 08:03:33 | FromGitter | <Varriount> Araq: Yesterday someone at my workplace called you a genius. |
| 08:04:36 | Araq | I'm not a genius. I just try to not to be too stupid |
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| 09:09:36 | ftsf_ | Araq, \o/ |
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| 09:26:00 | FromGitter | <watzon> Properties on objects aren't supposed to be immutable are they? |
| 09:27:04 | FromGitter | <watzon> For some reason this is giving me an error and I can't figure it out: ⏎ ⏎ ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=596b31684bcd78af56b52b85] |
| 09:32:45 | FromGitter | <mratsim> on ref object they are not immutable, on stack allocated object they are I think |
| 09:33:47 | FromGitter | <mratsim> in any case style-wise you should require var for anything that mutates the input |
| 09:34:35 | FromGitter | <watzon> @mratsim would you mind giving an example? I'm still new to this |
| 09:34:56 | FromGitter | <watzon> What do you mean by "require var"? |
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| 09:40:04 | FromGitter | <mratsim> ```proc forward*(t: var Tokenizer) = ⏎ inc(t.index)``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=596b3473329651f46e90c4d5] |
| 09:41:24 | FromGitter | <watzon> @mratsim thanks! I didn't realize you could do that |
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| 11:03:54 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> ftsf: o/ |
| 11:10:58 | ftsf_ | ahoy! |
| 11:15:42 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> ftsf_: http://github.com/zachcarycarter/zengine |
| 11:15:55 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> sorry https://github.com/zacharycarter/zengine |
| 11:16:19 | ftsf_ | awesome |
| 11:16:34 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> thanks |
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| 11:33:14 | FromGitter | <watzon> How can you combine char's to make a string? |
| 11:33:40 | ftsf_ | $(['a','b','c']) |
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| 12:36:22 | FromGitter | <watzon> Here's another one for you. I am trying to use a pattern from javascript in nim and it's not working for obvious reasons. In javascript basic assignment (`t = someFunction()`) returns the returned value of the function. Therefore something like this: ⏎ ⏎ ```code paste, see link``` ⏎ ⏎ Any ideas how I could accomplish this in nim? [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=596b5dc6bf7e6af22ce2d3fc] |
| 12:38:06 | FromGitter | <watzon> This is the full block so far: ⏎ ⏎ ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=596b5e2e3230e14f3a63dd3e] |
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| 13:00:22 | FromGitter | <indy9000_twitter> I can see intToStr but where is floatToStr ? |
| 13:01:17 | FromGitter | <dxe4> anyone knows why CsvParser.open segfaults when i use nim as a python extension but works fine when i use it as standalone ? |
| 13:01:41 | def- | indy9000_twitter: $ stringifies everything |
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| 13:09:14 | FromGitter | <watzon> Is there any way to use an anonymous proc inside of an if/elif? Maybe that would solve my problem? |
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| 13:32:41 | FromGitter | <dxe4> never mind the problem seem to come from this STRING_LITERAL(TM_xgSOGG8fvQlwPH9bPyp9bbTg_6, "path_here", 36); if i pass it as arguement it works |
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| 13:48:03 | FromGitter | <mratsim> @watzon you can create a proc that is valid inside the scope of your proc. It can also capture the environment: https://github.com/mratsim/Arraymancer/blob/master/src/arraymancer/display.nim#L76 |
| 13:50:44 | FromGitter | <mratsim> You can do “if let” if you want to by the way, just adapt this “while let” construct: https://gist.github.com/mratsim/e0c7f2eefb8fa91fb27f0cd9a97cff00 |
| 13:54:09 | FromGitter | <mratsim> ```while (let cur = t.forward(cur); isNewLine(cur)):``` ⏎ ⏎ assuming `t.forward` has a return value. [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=596b7000bf7e6af22ce31194] |
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| 14:12:13 | FromGitter | <mratsim> This forum thread is broken, clicking on page 2 gives 404: https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/3046 |
| 14:12:48 | FromGitter | <mratsim> Maybe for @dom96 ? |
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| 14:29:32 | FromGitter | <Varriount> @dxe4 Could you show us your python extension code? |
| 14:29:49 | FromGitter | <Varriount> Are you sure you're interfacing with the CPython API correctly? |
| 14:31:18 | FromGitter | <Varriount> @mratsim You're on fire this morning. :D |
| 14:33:00 | dom96 | mratsim: fixed |
| 14:42:20 | FromGitter | <dxe4> @Varriount yeah the python code is preety basic i found out that there is a problem with passing a char * into nim |
| 14:42:50 | FromGitter | <Varriount> Anything I can help with? |
| 14:43:06 | FromGitter | <dxe4> static PyObject* foobar(PyObject* self, PyObject* args) ⏎ { ⏎ ⏎ ```code paste, see link``` ⏎ ... [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=596b7b7a89aea4761da3b714] |
| 14:44:16 | FromGitter | <dxe4> i do this, if the nim func receives fp: string, the first 15 chars are truncated, if i received a cstring and cast it to string i get a segfault when using the string |
| 14:45:34 | FromGitter | <dxe4> i think its not that much python related but mostly calling nim from c, if change it to be read_csv("/home/...") its the same issue |
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| 14:51:05 | FromGitter | <mratsim> @Varriount :D Recharged my batteries with hiking, it was a long weekend in France (Friday was National day) |
| 14:55:18 | koppeh | Hey o/ Trying to look into some Nim game development resources again. Specifically setting up basic graphics stuff at the moment. What would you guys recommend? |
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| 15:35:03 | yglukhov | Araq: "deallocOsPages" - will threadpool be usable after that? |
| 15:35:10 | yglukhov | also what about finalizers? |
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| 16:00:54 | FromGitter | <Varriount> koppeh: Well, @zacharycarter is working on a 3d engine. |
| 16:01:23 | FromGitter | <Varriount> If you don't mind creating a wrapper, http://www.raylib.com/ looks good too. |
| 16:01:44 | FromGitter | <Varriount> There are SDL bindings available |
| 16:02:04 | FromGitter | <Varriount> I mean, there are SDL bindings on Nimble |
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| 16:17:33 | koppeh | Thanks @Varriount, raylib seems like it would help with a bunch of overhead. |
| 16:17:42 | koppeh | Now.. I guess there's no Nim mappings for it..? |
| 16:21:29 | FromGitter | <mratsim> @zacharycarter is also writing bindings on a subset of raylib |
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| 16:25:27 | def-pri-pub | zacharycarter: So you're trying to port the entirty of RayLib over to pure Nim? |
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| 16:29:15 | koppeh | Uhmm.. is this unrelated to the questions I just asked? |
| 16:29:35 | koppeh | Because if so that's one funny coincidence. |
| 16:29:46 | koppeh | I just read your comment on raylib's issues page. |
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| 16:31:20 | def-pri-pub | Which page? Link pls? |
| 16:32:21 | FromGitter | <Varriount> @mratsim I was given the impression @zacharycarter was writing an engine that used raylib's api as inspiration. |
| 16:32:39 | def-pri-pub | Oh that. |
| 16:32:44 | def-pri-pub | Yeah, I was reading the logs. |
| 16:32:53 | def-pri-pub | I though it was something posted in RayLib's issue tracker |
| 16:33:30 | koppeh | def-pri-pub: https://github.com/raysan5/raylib/issues/292 |
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| 16:33:38 | FromGitter | <indy9000_twitter> what's the closest equivalent to this: `printf("a=%0.3f, b=%0.4f", f1,f2)` |
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| 16:36:01 | koppeh | formatFloat? Not quite sure what that format string does. Take a look through https://nim-lang.org/docs/strutils.html ? |
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| 16:40:35 | FromGitter | <ephja> https://bitbucket.org/lyro/strfmt |
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| 17:07:54 | def-pri-pub | I'm really perplexed on how my Nim binary isn't able to open the .so file. I tried installing it to `/usr/local/lib`, which should be in the .so search path, but well, it's still not working. |
| 17:09:10 | def-pri-pub | I ported over the source for the `core_basic_window` example. When I run `ldd` on the C binary and the Nim binary, I'm getting completely different results |
| 17:09:58 | def-pri-pub | http://termbin.com/i4y4 <- `ldd` on the Nim binary |
| 17:10:20 | def-pri-pub | (0x00007f4a148f7000) |
| 17:10:35 | def-pri-pub | http://termbin.com/bu7h |
| 17:10:42 | def-pri-pub | And that's for `ldd` on the C binary |
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| 17:12:30 | def-pri-pub | Any ideas? |
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| 17:26:55 | tankfeeder | Sha3 library pushed to packages |
| 17:27:20 | tankfeeder | Sha3 library pushed to packages |
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| 18:05:59 | def-pri-pub | Well, if anyone wants to see what I have so far in regards to raylib bindings, here: |
| 18:06:02 | def-pri-pub | https://gitlab.com/define-private-public/raylib-Nim |
| 18:06:11 | def-pri-pub | I'm going to see if I can have some better luck binding on OS X later |
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| 18:49:22 | FromGitter | <watzon> @mratsim you are my savior! Thank you! |
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| 18:51:09 | Zevv | Does C have an equivalent of C static variables inside function scope? |
| 18:51:31 | Zevv | aka, I want the variable to survive over function calls |
| 18:53:11 | def-pri-pub | Zevv: erm, I don't think so. Easiest thing to do would be to declare the variable outside of the function |
| 18:54:38 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> def-pri-pub: I don't know about the entirety |
| 18:54:42 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> but a lot of it yes I plan on porting |
| 18:54:47 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> you can already check it out |
| 18:54:58 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> http://github.com/zacharycarter/zengine |
| 18:55:19 | yglukhov | Zevv: {.global.} |
| 18:55:33 | Zevv | thanks! |
| 18:55:51 | def-pri-pub | zacharycarter: I've already been poking through it |
| 18:56:05 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> ah cool :D |
| 18:56:06 | def-pri-pub | I'm still a little perplexed with what's been happening with the dynamic linking though |
| 18:56:32 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> it may be some relative path nonsense on linux |
| 18:56:57 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> at least from a cursory glance that's what it sounds like to me |
| 18:57:18 | def-pri-pub | I did try installing it to `/usr/local/lib`, still no luck |
| 18:57:23 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> hrm |
| 18:57:31 | def-pri-pub | I'm going to try on OS X later to see if I can get it working there |
| 18:57:56 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> may need that one linker argument let me try to find it |
| 18:58:15 | def-pri-pub | If you check the logs, I think I posted a link to the bindings so far |
| 18:58:33 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> yeah I just saw them |
| 19:00:28 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> @mratsim @Varriount I am indeed writing an engine from scratch for Nim, no bindings to raylib |
| 19:03:43 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> def-pri-pub I can try to lend some hand with the bindings later this evening |
| 19:03:50 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> have to run out to a birthday party soon |
| 19:03:52 | def-pri-pub | Sure, sounds good to me |
| 19:03:59 | def-pri-pub | Do you work primary on O |
| 19:04:05 | def-pri-pub | OS X, Windows, or Linux? |
| 19:04:55 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> osx |
| 19:04:59 | def-pri-pub | gotcha |
| 19:05:21 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> also if you have spare cycles and want to contribute to the port, any and all help is welcome |
| 19:05:28 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> so far I have quite a bit of the underlying opengl code ported |
| 19:05:41 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I need to work on loading and rendering obj models |
| 19:05:58 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> but I have a feeling one could already make a breakout clone with what I've ported |
| 19:06:47 | yglukhov | zacharycarter: got any opinion about https://github.com/yglukhov/rod? |
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| 19:08:13 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I think rod is probably going to be the best option we have, but it needs docs |
| 19:08:20 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> :D |
| 19:08:29 | def-pri-pub | looks neat |
| 19:08:38 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> also I'm not sure how all the adobe extras tie in |
| 19:08:41 | def-pri-pub | But I have no idea what I'm doing when I click buttons |
| 19:09:17 | def-pri-pub | zacharycarter: Artists like Adobe After Effects, a lot. Probably makes for easy art integration |
| 19:09:23 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> when I first started with Nim I toyed with rod and you've worked on it a whole bunch since then Yuri so I'm guessing it's way more feature rich than when I toyed with it |
| 19:09:30 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> gotcha, makes sense |
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| 19:11:18 | yglukhov | zacharycarter: adobe stuff is just an importer for after effects scenes. it is untied from the rest of the engine. |
| 19:12:08 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> gotcha |
| 19:12:24 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> @yglukhov I'd love to spend some time with rod and learn how to use it, it looks powerful in the right hands |
| 19:12:52 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> @yglukhov mainly not my hands :P |
| 19:13:16 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> is there any plans for public docs or is that still on the backburner / will get done when there's time? |
| 19:13:25 | yglukhov | zacharycarter: thanks for your kind words. i hope i'll get to the docs eventually |
| 19:13:39 | def-pri-pub | yglukov: how many Nim projects do you juggle at a time? |
| 19:13:53 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> good question |
| 19:14:18 | yglukhov | haha, see my profile + a small bunch of proprietary =) |
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| 21:07:47 | Zevv | I have various warnings in system and table libraries, "Cannot prove that 'r' is initialized." |
| 21:07:50 | Zevv | lib/nim/pure/collections/tables.nim(324, 3) |
| 21:07:51 | Zevv | lib/nim/system.nim(212, 7) |
| 21:08:18 | Zevv | is that something I'm causing in my code, or is there something smelly in the libs? |
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| 21:13:30 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> not something you |
| 21:13:46 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> 're causing, I'm not sure what exactly causes the issue but it's known |
| 21:13:57 | Zevv | ok |
| 21:14:42 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I'm making some assumptions here, but I encounter the problem quite frequently when using SDL2 |
| 21:15:05 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> and by assumptions I mean I assume you're not doing something stupid / crazy and causing the warning to be thrown |
| 21:15:18 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> without seeing code I can't be 100% certain |
| 21:15:22 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> but for instance thi scauses it - |
| 21:16:05 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> https://play.nim-lang.org/?code=import%20sdl2%0A%0Avar%20%0A%20%20evt%20%3D%20sdl2.defaultEvent |
| 21:16:35 | dom96 | report these kinds of things guys |
| 21:16:44 | dom96 | (if you haven't already) |
| 21:17:03 | Zevv | Sure |
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| 21:29:00 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> (https://files.gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim/YtHo/test.gif) |
| 21:31:06 | FromGitter | <ephja> I thought gitter was glitching |
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| 21:33:58 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> whoops |
| 21:34:07 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> my bad |
| 21:34:15 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> tried to cancel that, dragged the wrong file accidentally |
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