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01:22:41FromDiscord<tapeda> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=oBaYngIb
01:23:04FromDiscord<tapeda> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=cDmwvdmv" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=KJkGaHdt"
01:26:33FromDiscord<tapeda> uh don't mind the indentation I don't want to edit cause it spams the bridges, but now any call like !addtwo(2) should error and !addtwo(a=2) is fine
01:34:17FromDiscord<tapeda> warning: "why?" not found: https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=bxHlpdqO
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09:05:22FromDiscord<aintea> In reply to @tapeda "it's easy enough to": I have no idea what is the goal of this
09:06:43FromDiscord<aintea> Oh I see
09:06:51FromDiscord<aintea> But yeah I probably won't try to enforce anything
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09:18:49FromDiscord<tauruuuuuus> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=TgXirrBk
09:19:07FromDiscord<tauruuuuuus> I would have expected that the second part of the condition would not be evaluated if the first part is false
09:29:54FromDiscord<aintea> len is runtime
09:30:23FromDiscord<aintea> if the size is defined at compile time it makes no sense to check + you should have a variable where the length defined at compile time is held
09:41:21FromDiscord<aintea> wait no it's not
09:44:04FromDiscord<aintea> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=ROBOAmSa
09:44:13FromDiscord<aintea> :EmojiCatPlot:
09:55:33FromDiscord<lainlaylie> it makes sense to me, the whole condition has to be typechecked first
09:55:46FromDiscord<lainlaylie> you probably need a nested when
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10:38:19FromDiscord<tauruuuuuus> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=NxPjgdHV
10:38:21FromDiscord<tauruuuuuus> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=nioVcgHb" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=JznpOCNl"
10:38:58FromDiscord<tauruuuuuus> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=oICNrtka" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=FYLzhIFO"
10:56:25FromDiscord<lainlaylie> lol
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12:45:29FromDiscord<helwastaken> why does nim depend on the string header when i compile my program standalone and pass both to the linker and compiler the freestanding target (`--target=x86_64-freestanding-none`)
12:45:51FromDiscord<helwastaken> yes i know i need to replace none with gnu but is there any way to not make my program depend on string?
13:03:05FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @aintea "if the size is": for `array` you'd use `N` i believe?
13:03:47FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> ah no it's `I`
13:03:52FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> `arrType.I`
13:06:59FromDiscord<aintea> No idea
13:07:30FromDiscord<aintea> You're the one that should know you're always here
13:07:36FromDiscord<aintea> :nim2:
13:08:45FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @aintea "You're the one that": I'm just looking at the stdlib def
13:09:11FromDiscord<aintea> 5 hours of debugging can save me 5 mins of reading documentation
13:09:25FromDiscord<aintea> I also love the fact that the stdlib is so well documented
13:11:15FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @aintea "I also love the": Ehh it's better than nothing, just glancing at the signature and having basic knowledge helps
13:11:36FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> you can access generic params of types by accessing it via name
13:12:17FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> so if you have `a: seq[byte | char]` you can do ,`typeof(a).T`
13:12:30FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> and it'll either return `byte` or `char|
13:12:37FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> (edit) "`char|" => "`char`"
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13:55:23FromDiscord<demotomohiro> In reply to @helwastaken "why does nim depend": How about to download Nim source code and grep "string.h" to find stdlib or compiler code adds it?↵Or try `--os:any`.↵If you try to use `--os:standalone` or `--os:any`, this code might helps, but it is written for GCC and doesn't try to avoid including string.h.↵https://github.com/demotomohiro/MinimumNimPico/blob/main/src/uartReg.nims
13:56:43FromDiscord<helwastaken> In reply to @demotomohiro "How about to download": oh yeah i use os standalone
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14:01:33FromDiscord<helwastaken> hm constructing a struct makes my program wanna import string.h
14:05:59FromDiscord<helwastaken> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=SfmmJAUI
14:06:09FromDiscord<helwastaken> backend is zig's c compiler
14:06:56FromDiscord<helwastaken> the backend needs string.h probably cause it does some struck memory stuff
14:33:47FromDiscord<demotomohiro> In reply to @helwastaken "<@288750616510201856> this is the": I don't know much about zig's C compiler.↵You don't need to use both `-d:release` and `-d:danger`. `-d:danger` alone optimize code and removes runtime checks.↵Also you don't need to use both `--gc:none` and `--mm:none`. `--mm:none` alone should stop Nim's garbage collecter and memory management systems.
14:35:32FromDiscord<helwastaken> In reply to @demotomohiro "I don't know much": i know that was just the last compile options i used after a series of tests
14:35:41FromDiscord<helwastaken> still my problem is that structs dont work
14:49:21FromDiscord<helwastaken> changing `Test = object` to `Test = ref object` fixes it i guess
14:51:38FromDiscord<helwastaken> yeah
14:51:38FromDiscord<helwastaken> so
14:51:41FromDiscord<helwastaken> in nimcache
14:51:50FromDiscord<helwastaken> when you dont use ref object nim tries to use memset
14:53:50FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Using `ref` means it is allocated on the heap and you probably need to use `-d:malloc` so that Nim use malloc to allocate heap when `--os:standalone` used. But is `malloc` implemented on your freestanding environment?
14:54:33FromDiscord<helwastaken> im gonna be using this for reverse engineering not embedded
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14:55:13FromDiscord<helwastaken> also i know it allocates it on the heap but why does it use memset for stack allocation
14:55:26FromDiscord<helwastaken> (edit) "allocation" => "initialization"
14:57:38FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Nim always 0 initialize all variables unless you use `noinit` pragma.
14:57:48FromDiscord<demotomohiro> https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#statements-and-expressions-var-statement
15:02:31FromDiscord<helwastaken> In reply to @demotomohiro "Nim always 0 initialize": ok ye that works
15:02:45FromDiscord<helwastaken> i just mark the struct noinit and manually assigne values to it's fields
15:03:50FromDiscord<helwastaken> i need to re-read the manual because im pretty sure last time i used nim it didnt auto initialize which was version 1.4 i think
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21:11:24FromDiscord<summarity> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/CFxFDNvy
21:47:32FromDiscord<griffith1deadly> In reply to @summarity "FML, spent hours debugging": who needs expandMacros when treeRepr and dumpAstGen exists
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23:19:35FromDiscord<aintea> I asked chatgpt to make the macro I wanted to make but that I'm too lazy to code
23:19:52FromDiscord<aintea> happy to see even one of the most advanced LLMs can't make a working NIm macro either
23:26:06FromDiscord<tauruuuuuus> chatgpt is really bad at coding nim tho
23:26:20FromDiscord<tauruuuuuus> claude is miles ahead on that
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23:39:07FromDiscord<aintea> Is there any way I can use claude without registering a phone number
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