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05:34:27Varriount|MobileAraq: How would I go about adding a #def-like #ifdef to C2Nim?
05:34:56Varriount|MobileThere are various defines ('__cplusplus', '__midl') that I would like c2nim to skip over entirely, preferably without parsing.
05:35:24Varriount|MobileEr, I mean, some ifdefs that I would like c2nim to skip over.
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11:34:30AraqVarriount: that is unfortunately a really nasty problem to solve
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13:17:16flyxwhen crosscompiling with --cpu:i386, I get "nimbase.h:393:28: error: 'assert_numbits' declared as an array with a negative size". the code says this means nim and the C compiler do not agree about the size of a pointer
13:17:20flyxcan I do something about it?
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13:37:51reactormonkmaybe add some more flags, to the c compiler, e.g. march etc.
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13:41:38flyxI read the compiler user guide, but it doesn't tell me how to define additional flags for the c compiler
13:42:17flyxI also tried compiling with --compile_only and invoking clang with -m32 afterwards, but it yields the same error.
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13:49:31flyxhm. it works when I use --gen_script and manually add -m32 and -I to Nim/lib
13:50:48flyxshouldn't nim add -m32 by itself when I tell it to compile a 32bit binary?
13:51:55renesacflyx: http://nim-lang.org/docs/nimc.html#additional-features-passc-pragma
13:52:28flyxah thanks
13:52:34renesacand maybe it should
13:53:11flyxwell for now I can just script it dirty into my nakefile
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14:12:52flyxwell I could release emerald v0.2 now. but can nimble handle a dependency to the current compiler devel branch?
14:13:07flyxemerald doesn't compile with the latest stable nim release
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14:32:38Araqflyx: indeed Nimble supports that
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15:02:39flyxokay, then I'll clean up the repo and release it
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17:21:32flyxfor those interested in my emerald libs (seem to be a few according to github stars): I released v0.2 with complete API rewrite, new features and proper documentation: http://flyx.github.io/emerald/
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17:25:14def-flyx: very cool. can you change the "Nimrod" in the example to "Nim"?
17:25:23flyxoh, did I miss one?
17:31:00Xeflyx: can you please consider relicensing to MIT or CC0? The library is largely unusable for any buisiness projects with its current license.
17:32:01flyxXe: the WTFPL allows relicensing.
17:33:29flyxif you don't like the license name, you can just relicense it to whatever license you deem appropriate.
17:37:07flyxas emerald is currently highly experimental and the API not yet completely stable, I don't expect anyone to use it in a business environment. if it gets stable enough for business use-cases, I might consider relicensing it myself.
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17:58:29ivanvphow's the nim community doing
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18:01:25ivanvplicensing sounds like a good problem to have
18:01:33ldleworkAnyone here doing game dev?
18:05:48Araqivanvp: IMO we're doing fine. Nimble is about to get a huge version bump and with a bit of luck we can release Nim 0.12.0 the next days
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18:06:02federico3how about tomorrow?
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18:08:17ivanvpAraq: good to know. I am sort of out of the loop. just keeping an eye. how many releases till 1.0 do you think? the only roadmap file I see mentions only post-1.0 features
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18:10:53Araqyeah well, features are one thing, bugs another
18:11:08Araqthe roadmap doesn't list bugs ;-)
18:12:18Araqwe need a way to communicate "language stable, implementation reasonably stable" :P
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18:15:53ivanvphaha
18:15:56ivanvpI understand
18:16:54ivanvpscrew bugs, need more features!! features!!
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18:17:15ivanvplook at mongodb, all they had was features, and they did fine
18:18:48federico3 /s
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18:20:50ivanvpindeed
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18:23:20Araqhey, I like mongo, it just worked for me.
18:23:42Araqalso I was aware of its limitations before using it.
18:24:37ivanvpI know, me too
18:24:52Xesomeone at work got mad at me suggesting using mongodb for ephemeral state
18:25:26federico3I liked the promises it made
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18:42:18dom96Araq: Got a list of bugs I should post a bounty on yet?
18:42:56dom96flyx: emerald looks really cool!
18:43:24dom96In fact, it's time to make @nim_lang more active
18:43:28dom96I'll tweet about it ;)
18:45:11Xedom96: why not have it tweet on every new nimble package?
18:45:49dom96That would be a bit spammy, I think we should should have a separate twitter account for that.
18:46:03dom96Want a project idea? Here you go ;)
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18:55:35reactormonkflyx, wow, neat documentation
18:56:33reactormonkflyx, maybe too much, but script should support nim ;-)
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19:15:40Araqso .. should the extension be .nimscript or .nims ?
19:15:53Araqbikeshed ahead
19:16:12reactormonkAraq, why not .nimble?
19:16:20reactormonk... incompatible? ^^
19:16:38Araqhe, I thought of that too
19:16:52Araqbut it's a bit hacky
19:16:58reactormonkI think it would be fitting though
19:17:18dom96noooo
19:17:21Araqso if [Package] as a string occurs, it's an old style .nimble file, otherwise it's nimscript?
19:17:27reactormonkPretty much
19:17:35dom96That's a disaster waiting to happen.
19:17:44Arrrr.ns is more coherent with other scripting extensions, like py, rb or js
19:18:07reactormonkdom96, in which case?
19:18:52dom96.ns is likely taken by something else
19:19:06reactormonkAraq, scala uses project/*.scala for build definitions, but I don't think we want to force project structure
19:20:45Araq.nimster
19:21:01Araqthat's how we call ourselves, right?
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19:23:36Arrrrnimroders
19:24:02Xebabylonians
19:24:28reactormonkI'm still for .nimble ;-)
19:24:37Xeas a TLD?
19:24:57reactormonkThat too.
19:25:20Xeactually
19:25:53AraqI like .nims. triggered a nice Win API bug btw
19:25:57Xeis the operator overloading strong enough that you could make the nim compiler read parsecfg data into nim code?
19:26:07Araq*.nim matches foo.nims
19:26:15Xelol
19:26:41Arrrrwhich windows, 98?
19:26:49AraqWindows 8.
19:26:54XeAraq: why not .nebrod for nimscript?
19:27:02XeNebrod is the greek form of Nimrod
19:27:17Arrrrpeople wont take it
19:27:37ArrrrBut on the other hand, .ns ...
19:27:53Araqwell either we come up with something short, or it should be .nimscript
19:28:03Xemongodb uses .ns files for data files
19:28:18Araqand something short is already taken cause there are only so many 3 letter combinations
19:28:36Araqso ... I guess we have no choice but to use .nimscript
19:28:39Arrrrthat didn't stop google to use go
19:28:45dom96just use nimscript
19:30:42AraqArrrr: Ignorance seems to be Go's overall design philosophy.
19:31:16Arrrrhah
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19:34:34reactormonkAraq, wtf, why does *nim match foo.nims?
19:35:12Araqyou mean it does so on Unix too?
19:35:37reactormonknope
19:35:43Araqgood
19:35:45reactormonkbut why does it on windows?
19:36:26Araq*.nim is treated like *.nim* for reasons that escape me
19:36:36Araqmaybe DOS did it this way
19:37:00reactormonkso same for nimble?
19:37:21AraqI think so
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19:39:55Arrrrmaybe it just takes into account 3 chars
19:40:00Arrrrfrom the ext
19:40:48AraqDOS wouldn't allow for more than 3 anyway
19:41:02Araqmakes sense
19:43:28reactormonkAraq, how exactly would nimble run the nimscript?
19:45:01tinAndithe asterix matches for any char sequence even an none for no chars, it's that easy since 1981 ;)
19:46:17reactormonktinAndi, yeah, but only at the match location
19:46:45reactormonksee *.nim matching foo.nims
19:48:28kilonAraq: DOS did not support exenstion with more than 3 letters so *.nim* makes no sense for DOS
19:48:52kilonat least MSDOS back then
19:49:19kilonwindows command shell as it is now, should support this
19:49:39Araqwell the real question is why FindNextFileW, the *unicode* version of the API, needs to be compatible to fucking DOS...
19:50:15Araqit's not like DOS knew about Unicode anyway, also the filesystem allows for extensions longer than 3 bytes now
19:53:06tinAnditry touch foo.nim and dir '*.nim*' it works. MS calls this a stable api over 3 decades
19:53:45tinAndieven WIn XP had support for CPM cals in the command prompt ....
19:59:57Arrrrwell, if it cannot be .ns, then my vote goes for .nimscript
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21:21:19Xeis there a nim analog to the lua function pairs()?
21:21:27Xeyes there is
21:21:29XeI am blind
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