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03:44:18FromDiscord<wantitall> sent a long message, see https://paste.rs/yGE
03:44:53FromDiscord<huantian> <@&371760044473319454> no way sounds like a great deal
03:50:34FromDiscord<Rainbow Asteroids> it is a great deal
03:50:39FromDiscord<Rainbow Asteroids> install grapheneos on your pixel now
03:51:17FromDiscord<Rainbow Asteroids> you should install it yourself tho
03:51:48FromDiscord<halc> In reply to @wantitall "Are you looking to": omg yes where do I get it
03:53:16FromDiscord<Rainbow Asteroids> ngl, i probably wouldn't trust a pixel with graphene os preinstalled by some guy on matrix
03:53:27FromDiscord<huantian> I wouldn't trust some guy on matrix
03:54:00FromDiscord<halc> I mean I wouldn't seriously trust a smartphone for privacy to begin with
03:54:18FromDiscord<halc> regardless of whatever OS it has
03:56:21FromDiscord<Rainbow Asteroids> well, it all depends on your threat model ig
03:56:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Hello!↵(@huantian)
03:56:33FromDiscord<Rainbow Asteroids> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Hello! (<@300050030923087872>)": UNTRUSTWORTHY
03:57:26FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I knew it
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05:16:32FromDiscord<Require Support> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4aHY
05:18:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well it's wrong to begin with `WStr` is not a cstring
05:19:32FromDiscord<Require Support> you mean i should be using `newWideCString()` ?
05:19:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://nim-lang.org/docs/widestrs.html is likely what you want
05:19:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Of course
05:19:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim strings are pascal strings that store characters utf8 encoded
05:20:07FromDiscord<Require Support> ye that fails too with the same error
05:20:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I say that but they dont actually have any encoding
05:22:22FromDiscord<Require Support> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4aI0
05:23:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> oh you said `newWideCstring`
05:23:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Or nevermind i cannot read
05:25:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Seems to be a bug with Orc's cast
05:26:26FromDiscord<Require Support> i guess ill create an issue
05:29:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> This is weird
05:29:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4aI3
05:30:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Oh wait 'nimv2' has a different implementation
05:31:32FromDiscord<Require Support> whats nimv2 🤔
05:31:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What orc/arc use
05:31:45FromDiscord<Require Support> ah ok
05:31:59FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4aI4
05:33:26FromDiscord<Require Support> oh wow nice
07:24:51FromDiscord<Require Support> can anyone explain this error to a 5 year old `template/generic instantiation of `async` from here`
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07:26:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That isnt the error message that's telling you where the error occured
07:27:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Templates/generics are not actually called from where you wrote them each call instantiates them at the call site(assuming you never called the generic prior) as such any compile time error is inside the generic instantation which points back to the source template/generic
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08:07:35NimEventerNew Nimble package! zigcc - wraps `zig cc` to be able to be called by the nim compiler, see https://github.com/enthus1ast/zigcc
08:08:51FromDiscord<Phil> The zigcc package wasn't even in the package list and you still got 10 stars? Dang, now on to make it enthus1ast 's most popular package!
08:16:13FromDiscord<enthus1ast> Imho it wasn't merged yet
08:18:05FromDiscord<enthus1ast> Yesterday I was trying to (quickly) crosscompile from windows to freebsd, but it seems that freebsd is not yet 1 tier target
08:18:21FromDiscord<enthus1ast> Had not much time to investigate, though
08:18:37FromDiscord<enthus1ast> I mean zig first tier target
08:22:36FromDiscord<Goel> https://play.nim-lang.org is down, at lest form me
08:22:44FromDiscord<Goel> (edit) "lest form" => "least for"
08:22:54FromDiscord<Yardanico> Does anyone know if GitHub has a limit on how much people you can tag in a single post (in an issue)? I'm making a list of "bad" nimble packages (missing .nimble file, rewritten in another language, code in the wrong branch, etc), so I want to ping all the developers of these packages
08:23:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Based off the unreal engine issue nope
08:23:25FromDiscord<Yardanico> kinda wrong channel, sorry, should've posted in offtopic :P
08:23:25FromDiscord<Goel> (edit) "me" => "me↵play.nim-lang.org↵Host Error - Error code 504"
08:23:29FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Based off the unreal": ok, thanks
08:23:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Though that was a group that was ping
08:24:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You can just send my ping to the nearest paper shredder
08:24:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> 😛
08:29:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That does remind me, that nimble directory redesign should be done any time now 😄
08:34:04FromDiscord<Yardanico> https://github.com/nim-lang/packages/issues/1807#issuecomment-1250029447
08:34:34FromDiscord<Yardanico> i hope people don't swear at me for pinging, since some of them already stopped using NIm :P
08:34:50FromDiscord<Yardanico> that said, I should also check all nimble repos and make a PR to mark all archived repos as "abandoned" (which is what archiving usually for)
08:35:43FromDiscord<Yardanico> oops, one false positive, removed it
08:38:18FromDiscord<Phil> HAH! Not in the list!
08:38:49FromDiscord<Yardanico> lol
08:40:28FromDiscord<Yardanico> now I actually wonder how many repos out of all of them are archived
08:42:59FromDiscord<Yardanico> because with pkgraph I just cloned repos, and github clones archived repos just fine
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08:53:12FromDiscord<Yardanico> ok at least github has an easy rest api, going to iterate over all nimble repos and see how many are archived
09:31:58FromDiscord<Yardanico> btw @ethus1st regarding zigcc - you should probably mention in the readme or do it in the code yourself - `zig cc` by default compiles code with undefined sanitizer on, so some Nim code (especially refc) will just make the program crash
09:32:22FromDiscord<Yardanico> https://github.com/Yardanico/ircord/blob/master/zig-compile-vps.sh `-fno-sanitize=undefined`
09:32:50FromDiscord<Yardanico> https://github.com/ziglang/zig/wiki/FAQ#why-do-i-get-illegal-instruction-when-using-with-zig-cc-to-build-c-code
09:33:14FromDiscord<Yardanico> ah, seems like it only enables the sanitizer for debug builds, which is still kind of an issue of course
09:34:20FromDiscord<Rika> Why is UBSan giving issues with Nim when undefined is sanitised?
09:34:50FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @Rika "Why is UBSan giving": because UBSAN thinks that some Nim-compiled C code is wrong
09:34:55FromDiscord<Rika> Well why
09:34:57FromDiscord<Yardanico> especially regarding refc and its stack scanning, it really, really doesn't like that
09:35:01FromDiscord<Rika> Has it been reported
09:35:06FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @Rika "Well why": i don't know, you'd have to spend quite some time to debug it
09:35:15FromDiscord<Rika> Okay
10:38:18FromDiscord<flywind> `N_LIB_PRIVATE NIM_CONST NimStringV2 usedToFailtest50_5 = TMM9a4nZf9aKCvDciNqebSjH0A_3;` gives an error when I open the c file directly, but the Nim program compiles successfully
10:38:21FromDiscord<flywind> ` error: initializer element is not a compile-time constant`
10:40:26FromDiscord<flywind> cannot say whether it is the version of the C compiler or the mingw compiler that is the problem
11:20:30FromDiscord<ravinder387> In reply to @Goel "https://play.nim-lang.org is down, at": https://wandbox.org/ try this
11:23:09FromDiscord<ravinder387> In reply to @Rika "Okay": when nim's next version will released?
11:23:17FromDiscord<Rika> I would not know
11:25:02FromDiscord<ravinder387> In reply to @Rika "I would not know": do u use python for ur job
11:25:15FromDiscord<Rika> Not as of now
11:25:45FromDiscord<ravinder387> r u college student
11:25:57FromDiscord<Rika> Guess
11:26:14FromDiscord<ravinder387> u r drop out
11:27:51FromDiscord<ravinder387> guess abt me
11:28:35FromDiscord<auxym> @ravinder387 take this stuff to #offtopic if its not nim related
11:32:12FromDiscord<ravinder387> In reply to @auxym "<@848569854134845480> take this stuff": I want to draw linear equation by canvas "2 x + 1". how to evaluate it in nim
11:32:33FromDiscord<ravinder387> i can eval in javascript by eval("2x + 1")
11:35:41FromDiscord<demotomohiro> How about to use this: https://github.com/beef331/nimscripter
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12:06:30FromDiscord<enthus1ast> @ravinder387\: https://github.com/Yardanico/nim-mathexpr
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12:38:20FromDiscord<ravinder387> In reply to @enthus1ast "<@848569854134845480>\: https://github.com/Yardanic": how to eval at x = 0, 1, 2 ..... by loop
12:38:47FromDiscord<ravinder387> f(x) = 2x + 1
12:39:34FromDiscord<Rika> Please read the documentation, you can have variables and set them and whatnot
12:43:52FromDiscord<ravinder387> In reply to @Rika "Please read the documentation,": in which domain nim fits very well acc to u
12:47:53FromDiscord<Rika> Most domains
12:49:30FromDiscord<S3cur3Th1sSh1t> Any idea on how to increase the Stack Size for Nim Windows binaries? Regarding to the Nim compiler `-d:nimThreadStackSize=16384`only works for Zephyr and FreeRTOS . Also tried using mingw-gcc compiler flags such as `--passC:"-Wl,--stack,16384"` but that also doesn't help in my case. I'm having a huge byte array, which always causes SegFault when creating a Thread https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/102067787
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13:47:53FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @ravinder387 "when nim's next version": Personally, I'd just say use devel
13:48:10FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "In reply to @ravinder387 "when nim's next version": Personally, I'd just say use ... develbranch" added "nim's" | "nim'sdevel ... " added "branch"
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15:16:50FromDiscord<demotomohiro> @S3cur3Th1sSh1t Use `--passL` instead of `--passC` work?
15:29:10FromDiscord<S3cur3Th1sSh1t> In reply to @demotomohiro "<@605765004796362820> Use `--passL` instead": Got only compiler errors with that.
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15:33:07FromDiscord<Phil> I can only use nimble to write commands that call the nim compiler, correct?↵I could not, for example, define a nimble task that generates a docker image for me from an existing dockerfile, could I?
15:33:36FromDiscord<Phil> Like, nimble-ify this command `sudo docker build --file dockerfile.nginx --tag nimstoryfont-nginx .`
15:36:37FromDiscord<retkid> whats the best way to block between threads
15:36:39FromDiscord<retkid> my idea was channels
15:40:09FromDiscord<retkid> do locks wait
15:40:33FromDiscord<retkid> if i lock something does a thread wait and then acquire it when it can
15:44:26FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @retkid "if i lock something": It should, afaik that's pretty much how locks work and how you prevent parallel access to shared memory
15:44:41FromDiscord<retkid> in this case its to test io efficiency
15:44:48FromDiscord<Phil> (e.g. when connection pooling)
15:45:17FromDiscord<retkid> yea basically what im doing just for an io test
15:45:37FromDiscord<retkid> threads exist on shared and down violate gc saftey
15:45:38FromDiscord<retkid> correct
15:46:17FromDiscord<Phil> I can give no further information than that, never did parallelized IO or the like, I can just tell you that for parallel access, locks can be useful
15:47:12FromDiscord<retkid> generally async would be bette
15:47:20FromDiscord<retkid> but i dont know async and i dont wanna spend more time
15:47:24FromDiscord<retkid> so /shrug
15:48:06FromDiscord<Phil> Imo in terms of complexity:↵"Normal" code (synchronous, single threaded) > Async > Multi-threaded
15:48:43FromDiscord<retkid> i have a far easier time writing multithreaded code
15:49:44FromDiscord<Phil> Basic Async isn't all that hard, you just need to wrap your head around the fact that you have "placeholders" (in JS Promises and/or Observables, in nim Futures, in Java it depends on the framework) and you no longer act on data, you just hand your placeholder procs to execute once the data is there
15:50:03FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "Basic Async isn't all that hard, you just need to wrap your head around the fact that you have "placeholders" (in JS Promises and/or Observables, in nim Futures, in Java it depends on the framework) and you no longer act on data, you just hand your ... placeholdersome" added "particular" | "particularplaceholder ... procs" added "some"
15:50:42FromDiscord<Phil> Unless the issue isn't conceptual but clothing that into nim syntax, never used nim async so not sure how hard it actually is or isn't
15:50:53FromDiscord<retkid> oh god
15:50:59FromDiscord<retkid> i might need to use channels
15:50:59FromDiscord<retkid> :notlikethis:
15:51:14FromDiscord<retkid> nah i dont actually
16:13:49FromDiscord<Kiloneie> How do you display the name name/identifier of a field name of an object/tuple, i know i knew this, but i cannot recall...
16:18:19FromDiscord<demotomohiro> In reply to @S3cur3Th1sSh1t "Any idea on how": It seems threads stack size is hardcoded in https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/lib/system/threads.nim↵I think you need to use seq instead of large array.
16:19:27FromDiscord<Prestige> @Kiloneie There's a `fieldPairs` iterator for objects
16:19:35FromDiscord<retkid> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1020730748623388732/hhdtest.nim
16:19:37FromDiscord<Prestige> Or repr if you're trying to just echo something
16:19:40FromDiscord<retkid> heres some code
16:19:41FromDiscord<retkid> rate me
16:22:33FromDiscord<demotomohiro> In reply to @Kiloneie "How do you display": When you cannot recall it, read here: https://nim-lang.org/docs/iterators.html
16:27:02FromDiscord<Kiloneie> ah, thank you both, i could of typed field or fields in the search and find it... oh well.
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16:34:29FromDiscord<Goel> How can i turn this string `"Pixel(r: 0, g: 0, b: 0, a: 0)"` into a real type Pixel with that data? (Pixel is already defined as a type of that kind in my program)↵I tried lookin in strutils and sequtils but can't find the right proc. Do i need to create a macro (Please god no)
16:34:58FromDiscord<Goel> (edit) "macro" => "macro?"
16:36:55FromDiscord<auxym> yeah I think you can use `parseStmt` from std/macros. Needs to be a static string though (known/constant at compile time)
16:37:32FromDiscord<auxym> If you want to do it at runtime, you can implement a rudimentary "parser" using strscans or a regex
16:39:26FromDiscord<Bubblie> Is there nim bindings to the physics library bullet?
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17:21:41FromDiscord<planetis> Ask gamedev but also search nimble.directory
17:26:05FromDiscord<!!sharpcdf!!> im getting this error when trying to build a hello world app with nimview, does anyone know what the problem is? https://pastebin.com/FRa6xsJ9
17:26:31FromDiscord<!!sharpcdf!!> im not missing webkit or gcc, i have no clue why it doesnt work
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17:32:11FromDiscord<!!sharpcdf!!> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4aKQ
17:32:24FromDiscord<!!sharpcdf!!> i cant build anything with nimview, but i cant even install futhark
17:46:45FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @sharpcdf "and another error when": you need to install clang as futhark depends on libclang to parse C code :)
17:48:17FromDiscord<!!sharpcdf!!> In reply to @Yardanico "you need to install": how can I get libclang? I don't see it in dnf
17:49:01FromDiscord<!!sharpcdf!!> do i just install it from the llvm website?
17:49:53FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @sharpcdf "how can I get": again, you just install clang
17:50:14FromDiscord<Yardanico> from dnf
17:50:16FromDiscord<!!sharpcdf!!> i already have clang installed
17:50:20FromDiscord<!!sharpcdf!!> from dnf
17:50:34FromDiscord<!!sharpcdf!!> 14.0.5
17:50:46FromDiscord<Yardanico> or also try `clang-tools-extra`
17:50:52FromDiscord<Yardanico> just find a package that installs libclang
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18:01:21FromDiscord<!!sharpcdf!!> got it to work, for some reason i had everything installed BUT clang-devel
18:04:52FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4aKY
18:05:15FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> (edit)
18:06:20FromDiscord<huantian> return exits the function the first time it hits
18:06:29FromDiscord<huantian> so it'll do `return 0` and exit with a value of `0`
18:06:37FromDiscord<huantian> if you want an iterator use `iterator` instead of `proc`
18:06:52FromDiscord<!!sharpcdf!!> or just `echo i` instead of `return i`
18:06:59FromDiscord<huantian> mhm
18:09:24FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> tryna generate and return all the color codes, this does alot but im sure not all of them https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1020758381595730060/screenshot_2022-09-17-140838.png
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18:10:46FromDiscord<!!sharpcdf!!> that would just echo `1, 1, 1` to `255, 255, 255` youll need a different `i` for each value
18:11:34FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> id need some way to loop all 255 of r with all 255 of g and same for b to get all of them
18:11:41FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> (i think)
18:12:13FromDiscord<exithead> Yup three for loops
18:12:23FromDiscord<huantian> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4aL0
18:12:32FromDiscord<huantian> but note that that's 16 million colors
18:12:47FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> hmm
18:13:08FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> this either gonna crash my pc or look rly cool, the plan is to set window boarder colors
18:13:21FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> making it rbg lol
18:13:25FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> (edit) "rbg" => "rgb"
18:13:43FromDiscord<huantian> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4aL0" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4aL1"
18:14:53FromDiscord<S3cur3Th1sSh1t> In reply to @demotomohiro "It seems threads stack": Seq is not stored on the stack?
18:16:57FromDiscord<demotomohiro> @S3cur3Th1sSh1t Only length and pointer are stored on the stack, its contents is stored on the heap.
18:21:11FromDiscord<S3cur3Th1sSh1t> In reply to @demotomohiro "<@605765004796362820> Only length and": Than I should normally not run in a stack overflow in any case? I mean length and pointers will not take that much size..
18:24:20FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> ive exceded my knowledge again
18:24:29FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> (edit) "exceded" => "exceeded"
18:24:36FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1020762205228118026/screenshot_2022-09-17-142403.png
18:26:16FromDiscord<huantian> you probably want to use hsv instead of rgb btw, since, for example, (0, 0, 255) is the same color as (0, 0, 100), just different brightness.
18:26:22FromDiscord<demotomohiro> @S3cur3Th1sSh1t seq rarely cause stack overflow unless you call proc recursively.
18:27:03FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> In reply to @huantian "you probably want to": why doesnt this compile tho?
18:27:17FromDiscord<huantian> `execShellCmd` returns the status code of the command
18:27:27FromDiscord<Kiloneie> How do you properly read this: https://nim-lang.org/docs/estp.html as in profiler data ? i don't fully understand it
18:27:37FromDiscord<huantian> so you need to put `discard` before it if you don't want that status code for anything
18:28:09FromDiscord<demotomohiro> @S3cur3Th1sSh1t You can see how much seq uses stack with `sizeof(seq[int])`.
18:29:40FromDiscord<S3cur3Th1sSh1t> In reply to @demotomohiro "<@605765004796362820> You can see": Im just assuming my error is something completely different. I was just able to load other even bigger files into an array to run them from memory. So it seams to be not a problem with the size.
18:29:50FromDiscord<S3cur3Th1sSh1t> And or stack length
18:30:26FromDiscord<huantian> wait are you using arrays or seq?
18:31:05FromDiscord<!!sharpcdf!!> wheres the clang include directory on fedora? i found one in `/usr/include/clang` but when trying to use futhark it errors with `'stddef.h' file not found`
18:31:37FromDiscord<!!sharpcdf!!> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4aL6
18:31:47FromDiscord<!!sharpcdf!!> specifically https://github.com/javalikescript/webview-c
18:40:57FromDiscord<demotomohiro> @S3cur3Th1sSh1t If an array is declared on top level (Out size of any procedures), it is stored on the static storage, not stack. So you don't get stack overflow even if it is larger than stack size.
18:52:06FromDiscord<S3cur3Th1sSh1t> In reply to @demotomohiro "<@605765004796362820> If an array": Thats the case.
18:59:10FromDiscord<demotomohiro> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4aLl
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19:30:11FromDiscord<S3cur3Th1sSh1t> Than this is definitely not the problem. It’s something different but I’m now clueless again.
19:38:56FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> this trims last character off of a string, how can i trim the first?
19:39:08FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4aLC
19:39:31FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> not sure completly how the [.. ^2] works
19:47:40FromDiscord<Kermithos> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4aLH
19:47:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `[1..^1]` is more idiomatic
19:48:02FromDiscord<Kermithos> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4aLH" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4aLI"
19:48:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> it also doesnt cause the off by one error the above does 😄
19:48:26FromDiscord<Kermithos> oh yea, forgot about that
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19:52:55FromDiscord<huantian> `..^2 `means slice everything from the start up to and including the last character
19:53:01FromDiscord<huantian> (edit) "`..^2 `means slice everything from the start up to and including the ... last" added "2nd to"
19:58:05FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> In reply to @huantian "you probably want to": where can i look into this?
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20:01:05FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> cause it has to output to a hex color code, or whatever 0xffHEXCODE is called
21:37:15FromDiscord<retkid> hey guys
21:37:23FromDiscord<retkid> does anyone here have experience with tamuri
21:37:33FromDiscord<retkid> and would it be useful for the community to develop bindings
21:37:35FromDiscord<retkid> do you think
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22:08:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The fuck is tamuri?
22:39:24FromDiscord<huantian> maybe he meant tauri?
22:39:56FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Perhaps
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22:50:28FromDiscord<!!sharpcdf!!> well if he did, tauri already has planned nim bindings afaik
23:09:12FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> the whole `when defined linux` to see if the system ran on is linux, what is macos's version?↵is it darwin?
23:17:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/wiki/Consts-defined-by-the-compiler
23:19:35FromDiscord<Iliketwertles> appreciate it
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