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01:02:32FromGitter<ephja> "Error: unhandled exception: unknown file(1, 9) Error: '{' expected for an object expected [JsonParsingError]" where on earth did that come from :p
01:05:05FromGitter<ephja> from ⏎ ⏎ ```match input, pos: ⏎ of "\"[^\"]*\"":``` ⏎ ⏎ interesting.. [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=582d0241e097df7575bfa501]
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02:00:10PMunchHmm
02:01:01PMunchI have a weird issue with creating a type and using it in a different file
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02:02:19PMunchIt's marked with * like I have done with many other types. The import statement is 'import "../game"' but when I try to create a function that takes the type I get an undeclared identifier error
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02:51:48PMunchHmm, another thing. When two types from different places don't match you get quite a cryptic error message
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02:52:06PMunchtype mismatch: got (<variable name>)
02:52:12PMunchbut expected one of:
02:52:32PMunchproc procedure(name: <variable name<)
02:52:44PMunchIt looks like it just doesn't understand what's going on
02:53:07PMunchMaybe it should somehow specify that the types are different even though they share the same name
02:53:46cheatfatelooks like you have procedure with name equal to type name
02:54:53PMunchFor my first or second issue?
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02:57:44PMunchcheatfate?
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06:03:31hcorionHi all! Does anybody know of some good async tutorials/examples for nim?
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08:53:04jh32hi
08:54:08jh32is there a way to create a seq and skip the memset() that initializes the data?
09:02:17flyxjh32: none you want to use
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09:11:07jh32flyx: ok :-) i tried by modifying the generated c code and it gives me around 5% performance improvement
09:12:21flyxjh32: https://gist.github.com/flyx/7f1639d1fc21d82fdb32efbabb8021f9 use at own risk
09:13:06jh32flyx: haha, nice
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11:52:12cheatfateAraq, i have a question about `symbol files`
11:52:27cheatfateWhat they will have inside?
11:53:32Araqan index so that module.sym can be accessed without loading the full file
11:54:20cheatfatebut is it possible to use it for debugging too? like `nim type/variable` = `c type/variable`?
11:56:01cheatfatebecause if for local stack variable its easy to find corresponding nim variable, for global variables which named like DEADBEAF its almost impossible
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11:56:45cheatfateso such .sym file will be very useful for debuggers
11:57:36Araqthat's a different thing and already implemented
11:58:07cheatfatein current version?
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12:00:25Araqyes, a project.ndb file is produced for you
12:00:40Araqyou can read this via compiler/debuginfo.nim
12:02:47cheatfatelol, sometime ago i have asked you about ndb file and got an answer this is some kind of visual studio compiler artefacts :)
12:03:35Araqmaybe I am confused about the file endings
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12:30:46arnetheduckAraq, https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/5018?
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12:41:19Araqarnetheduck: oh yeah, wanted to ask you
12:41:28Araqwhat combinations did you test?
12:41:38Araq(OS, CPU, etc)
12:41:38arnetheduckcombinations?
12:42:28arnetheduckjust linux and whatever the build server does..
12:42:41FromGitter<ephja> good to know that the compilation speed can be improved. not that it's anything like C++ now, but lower is always better :p
12:45:50arnetheduckpart of the reason I put some of it in when blocks, though ultimately it shouldn't matter for nim right now - the types from the headers are still used
12:46:25arnetheduckdon't have any osx/windowses to test on
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12:51:31FromGitter<Almynic> hi can't compiled nimble on ubuntu, this step `src/nimble install` fails, I get the following error src/nimble install ⏎ Traceback (most recent call last) ⏎ nimble.nim(1005) nimble ⏎ nimble.nim(937) doAction ⏎ nimble.nim(564) install ... [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=582da7d369eb65323c43f829]
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12:52:05FromGitter<Almynic> What is the problem there? Can someone help?
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12:58:04FromGitter<Araq> is this even "nimble compilation"? "nimble install" sounds like it fails on installation
12:59:52FromGitter<Almynic> @Araq I followed the instruction to install nimble as nimble package
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13:00:59FromGitter<Araq> I never did that.
13:01:12FromGitter<Araq> nim ships with nimble these days.
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13:14:27ArrrrIt is possible to make a ptr collectable?
13:15:08arnetheduckoh, and Araq, do you remember why 4-byte aligned pointers are checked in the setjmp buffer, when doing gc? looks odd - everywhere else it's assumed that pointers will be 8-byte aligned, and boehm for example doesn't do that
13:15:36arnetheduckI also looked at the struct itself on glibc & musl - both align all regs at 8 bytes
13:18:34Araqbecause some stupid version of GCC uses 4 byte alignment for this, iirc
13:24:02arnetheduckoh? that's.. odd. the buffer is an array of longs and as such should be aligned like that too
13:28:04FromGitter<ephja> Arrrr: wrap it in a ref?
13:30:23FromGitter<ephja> and define a finalizer? and not a destructor for now, unless maybe you want to allocate the wrapper on the stack IIRC
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13:41:27FromGitter<ephja> are you wrapping a C library?
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14:14:37Arrrrephja what do you mean by wrapping it in a ref?
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14:15:54cheatfateephja wrapping c library to `ref` is a bad idea
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14:17:27FromGitter<ephja> it seems like a small price to pay, but you can allocate on the stack and use a destructor if you want
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14:19:34FromGitter<ephja> but the necessity to de-allocate explicitly depends on the library design
14:20:05cheatfateephja destructors are experimental...
14:22:33FromGitter<ephja> I know, but it depends on how important it is. A finalizer might do, or a `defer` statement (try/finally)
14:22:57Araqanybody tried my nawabs yet? :-)
14:23:49FromGitter<ephja> I've only checked out the repo and cloned it so far
14:24:31FromGitter<ephja> I'll play with it soon
14:24:31AraqI'm curious if it will be useful for somebody else :P
14:24:46AraqI recently restructured it
14:25:09FromGitter<ephja> any idea what's going on here? https://github.com/Araq/lexim/issues/1
14:25:58FromGitter<ephja> if you have time to look at it. I already have a working parseutils solution
14:26:00Araqephja: lexim uses marshal.nim at compile-time to get better compiletimes
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14:26:25FromGitter<ephja> oh ok. I only searched for "json"
14:26:52Araqyeah, interesting issue
14:26:54Araqbbl
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14:29:15ArrrrSo, i how i wrap stuff in refs
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14:33:15FromGitter<ephja> Arrrr: by defining an object type that has a field of the pointer type in question, and then you can allocate instances of this object type with the overload of 'new' that takes a finalizer http://nim-lang.org/docs/system.html#new,ref.T,proc(ref.T)
14:34:20Arrrrooh
14:34:25ArrrrI'll check out that, thank you.
14:34:30FromGitter<ephja> or use any of the other methods that I mentioned if you require more deterministic de-allocations, but destructors are considered experimental
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14:35:29Arrrrbut it expects a ref type
14:37:03ArrrrActually i want to serialize objects with inheritance. I don't know if it will work, i can look the header for the size, but i don't if it is possible to allocate x amount of memory and then tell the garbage collector to watch out for it
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14:39:15FromGitter<ephja> "type T = ref object: wrappedPointer: CLibPointerType". what you do then is define a finalizer that de-allocates the memory pointed to by that field, according to the protocol of the C library in question
14:39:51FromGitter<ephja> I don't follow. should the C object not be allocated using one of the functions defined in that library?
14:42:18ArrrrNo, i'm not using any library, i'm just experimenting for the shake of it.
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14:48:25FromGitter<ephja> I don't think it makes a difference, if indeed you need to use pointers
14:49:35ArrrrBut i want to use multimethods
14:50:32FromGitter<ephja> is dynamic dispatch limited to references?
14:52:03ArrrrI'm not sure, but i'd rather work with them
14:52:35ArrrrI want to allocate by hand only in this limited section, and only if this hack works
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15:13:10enthus1astis there an module to handle ip addresses / netmask? Or some module that let me type in addresses similar to nmap syntax? (10.0.0.1,2,3-10) ?
15:13:53cheatfateenthus1ast, nope
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15:49:35Araqenthus1ast: there is parseIp in some sockets or net module
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15:59:53AraqCalinou: any progress on the website?
16:00:21enthus1astAraq its in net.nim parseIPv{4,6}Address but it not provide nmap syntax.
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16:01:20cheatfateenthus1ast, nmap syntax represents bunch of addresses with case for one address
16:02:21enthus1astyep i'm just writeing it
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17:28:52krux02is it possible to run an external tool on a compile time generated string at compile time?
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17:32:49krux02I would like to run glslangValidator on my shader files that are generated at compile time, and forward the error messages
17:33:40FromGitter<ephja> there's nothing in 'net' for retrieving the address associated with a socket, right? only in nativesockets
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17:38:12djiinWhat is nawabs?
17:45:33FromGitter<ephja> https://github.com/Araq/nawabs. let's see what the new readme says
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17:49:56krux02is there an exec, where I get the output of an external program invocation?
17:51:16FromGitter<ephja> krux02: http://nim-lang.org/docs/system.html#gorge,string,string,string
17:51:34Calinouhi Araq, sorry, not much progress lately, I have tons of work at uni
17:51:44FromGitter<ephja> what website?
17:51:58Calinouephja: I started working on a (functional) new website template using Jekyll for Nim
17:52:40FromGitter<ephja> neat
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17:54:42FromGitter<ephja> @Araq is there anything to test other than "nawabs init"?
17:54:45Calinou@ephja it looks like this so far: https://lut.im/Rjv2NCBTL1/JGqA7NQivtxc8PmT.png
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18:02:59corecodehow do i define a ptr {.volatile.} uint32?
18:03:05Varriount|MobileAraq, dom96: Have you decided what to do about Unicode output to the Windows command prompt?
18:03:31FromGitter<ephja> @Calinou it looks alright. I can't read text on backgrounds close to #000000 very well though.
18:03:42FromGitter<ephja> but many people don't seem to have a problem with it
18:03:56krux02@ephja: thanks so far, now I need to write a string into a temp file at comile time, because my tool only accepts filenames, not input
18:04:22dom96Varriount|Mobile: is there a relevant issue for this?
18:04:42Varriount|MobileSomewhere on github, yes
18:04:50Varriount|MobileI don't know the exact number
18:05:53dom96I can't remember the details of this unfortunately.
18:09:25corecodeany suggestions about the volatile access?
18:12:36dom96corecode: can you elaborate? Is this what you want? var x {.volatile.}: ptr uint32
18:13:05corecoderight now my line reads:
18:13:11corecode reg = cast[ptr size](base + offset)
18:13:12corecode
18:13:23corecodesize is a template parameter
18:13:39corecodebut that makes reg not volatile
18:13:53dom96can you define `reg` as volatile?
18:13:59corecodeyes
18:14:08corecodebut then it becomes a volatile pointer
18:14:12corecodenot a pointer to volatile :)
18:14:56dom96ahh
18:15:07dom96No idea I'm afraid :)
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18:17:20FromGitter<ephja> who isn't :D
18:17:21dom96maybe putting it on a type definition also works?
18:17:25atweidenCalinou: mockup looks really good
18:17:39dom96type Foo {.volatile.} = size
18:17:42dom96ptr Foo
18:18:10corecodei wonder why "shl" takes integer shift arguments, and only the same type for rhs and lhs
18:18:18corecodewhat does it mean to do 5 shl -2?
18:18:19FromGitter<ephja> size as in integer type?
18:18:26Calinouatweiden: thanks
18:18:30FromGitter<ephja> shr 2?
18:18:32corecodelike int8, int8, etc.
18:18:33FromGitter<ephja> *shrug*
18:21:26corecodeok i'll work around it in a different way
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18:53:31cheatfatecorecode, its a known issue old issue and every time its appears there become dispute on unsigned vs signed :)
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18:55:11Araqactually I fixed the shifting ops but it needs to be merged and in the same branch I got carried away ...
19:00:09Araqcorecode: volatile is a stupid concept and should have been volatileRead/volatileWrite ops instead
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19:18:03corecodeheh okay
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19:18:33corecodeAraq: yea having explicit ops is good
19:19:02corecodebut if you compile to C you need to convince the compiler with volatile to actually perform an access
19:24:25Araqproc volatileRead(x: ptr int): int {.importcpp: "(*(volatile long*)(#))", nodecl.}
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19:54:17FromGitter<Almynic> I installed nim from c sources on ubuntu. The installation was successful but how do I make nimble work?
19:59:55dom96Almynic: Did you run nim e install_tools.nims?
20:01:33FromGitter<Almynic> no nimble gets installed no with nim installation needed to add nimble to path but thanks
20:03:58dom96I'm not sure I understand
20:05:31FromGitter<Almynic> @dom96 solved it already, needed to add nimble to path to execute nimble from console
20:05:51dom96okay, good.
20:06:00dom96Glad you got it working :)
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20:17:09corecodei guess i can't create a macro which takes arguments like a template?
20:26:16dom96you can AFAIK
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21:31:28corecodehum why do i get a chckRange call
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21:36:48corecodehttps://gist.github.com/92b01acb9f05453da6908ff46dfa642d
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21:37:06corecodewhy do i get "value of type 'uint32' has to be discarded
21:37:08corecodein line 2?
21:37:17corecode(instantiation from line 12)
21:37:27corecodei may not understand how templates work
21:41:21corecodehow come %% takes int, not unsigned?
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21:44:31Araqcorecode: make the template return something
21:44:46Araqtemplate bitmask(...): uint32 = ...
21:44:53corecodeah, give it a type
21:44:55corecodethanks
21:46:50corecodeinteger types and not being allowed to cast in VM makes me unhappy :/
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21:52:12corecodehow do i prevent a chckRange call?
21:52:25corecodesomehow mod or and don't seem to be sufficient to prevent it
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21:59:47Araqconvert the 'mod' result to the integer type you thought it would have
22:00:05AraqI intend to remove the "smart typing" rule for 0.16
22:02:07corecodeyou mean cast?
22:03:04Araqno, T(x) is a type conversion
22:03:14corecodeoh!
22:03:18Araqyou likely use 'cast' where you should use type conversions
22:03:25Araqwhich are fully supported by the VM
22:03:31corecodederp
22:08:35corecodetest.nim(15, 48) Error: type mismatch: got (range 0..1(uint32)) but expected 'range 0..1(int)'
22:08:36corecode
22:08:42corecodedoes that make any sense?
22:08:52corecodehow can these ranges be different?
22:13:42def-corecode: sure, one uses a uint32 type underlying the range, the other an int type
22:13:48FromGitter<ephja> if the types differ then they are not the same. implicit conversion in cases where the source range always fits seems reasonable though
22:15:21FromGitter<ephja> after all, an int is quite similar to range[int.low .. int.high]
22:17:58corecodeError: internal error: unknown type kind tyFieldAccessor
22:18:00corecodeheh
22:19:27FromGitter<ephja> I left outsome information there. What I meant was, the rules could be similar to that of plain integers, where implicit conversions are allowed provided that there's no risk of data loss
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22:55:40FromGitter<Almynic> which ide should I use for nim development?
22:56:05FromGitter<Almynic> I would like to have autocomplete
23:00:03Araqvscode is widely regarded the best
23:00:14Araqand no, you don't need Windows to run it.
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