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02:54:12cryzeddef-, you aren't up for a critique/review of my solution for day9 I assume? (part 1)
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06:48:33girvoHey everyone, quick q: pattern matching on types, is that a thing? I can probably write a macro myself utilising a '.kind' ADT of some description if needed
06:49:33girvoBasicaly, in the style of ML or something?
06:49:57reactormonkgirvo, got ADTs via variant objects, but that's about it.
06:50:03reactormonkgirvo, https://github.com/andreaferretti/patty
06:50:24girvoreactormonk: oh, that looks pretty damned close!
06:51:36girvoi'd forgotten about object variants, for my current use-case that and "case kind" should do nicely. I'll have a play with patty too
06:51:40girvothanks reactormonk :)
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16:56:29krux02hello people, is there a documentation about the internals of string and seq?
16:56:40reactormonkkrux02, what do you want to know?
16:57:34krux02I would like to know if they work like c++ std::string, copying everywhere, or more like QString copy on write, or more like java, immutable, and strings are always new strings
16:58:38krux02and what is the best way to create a long string of unknown size, if I need to append a lot.
16:58:44krux02same with seq
16:59:39krux02and when I pass a string to a function, does it actually copy the string?
17:00:13reactormonkTake a look at lib/system/sysstr.nim
17:00:23reactormonkhandles both strings and seqs
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17:02:21krux02reactormonk: cant find it on github :/
17:03:22reactormonkkrux02, https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/lib/system/sysstr.nim
17:06:51krux02reactormonk: ok, that is pretty low level, and it describes how the individual operations work, but it dosn't tell how they are called
17:07:18reactormonkkrux02, so you're asking if they're copied on passing?
17:07:25krux02yes
17:08:00krux02I mean strings are pretty easy to work with, but I like to know what actually happens
17:09:27krux02As I have seen, strings can be changed, and if I pass a string to a function, and it it done like a c++ const reference, and I change the origin of the string, also the string in my function gets changed, and that conflicts with value type samantic
17:09:42reactormonkthey're copied on assignment.
17:10:06krux02Ok that means I have a lot of string copying if I pass around a lot of strings to functions?
17:11:27reactormonkkrux02, http://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#ast-based-overloading-move-optimization
17:15:11krux02reactormonk: does it mean I have to implement move optimization manually for all my functions tha take string as arguments?
17:17:00reactormonkkrux02, or pass by ref
17:17:45krux02so you think passing strings by ref in general is a good idea?
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17:19:45reactormonkNope. But if you have a large buffer, maybe. Honestly, I think I'd wait for Araq to get here (soon) and wait for a conclusive answer.
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18:34:58Xewhy does nim prefer to use -fno-strict-aliasing when compiling code?
18:35:08Xethat is the gcc flag
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19:47:27krux02is there a way to print an ast node in a way that can be copy pasted into source to construct that ast?
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20:16:07krux02is there someone here?
20:51:42dom96krux02: I don't think so, repr() is as close as you get
20:52:18dom96You should be able to write a proc that does that, maybe you can base it on repr()
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21:47:33AraqXe: because the C standard sucks.
21:48:25Araqin a nutshell: The C standard doesn't work people think C works and should work and so C is increasingly difficult to use as a "portable assembler"
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22:33:21XeAraq: why turn it off though? if you already have to live in a world where a compiler can reorder reads and writes of different types there's no benefit (apparently)
22:33:54Araqbecause we still map Nim's cast to C's cast.
22:34:13Araqwell actually. we don't always.
22:34:26Araqso yeah, we can get rid of that, I guess
22:36:00Xecool
22:37:47Xei've gotten Nim to call to Go code
22:37:52Xehttps://github.com/Xe/code/tree/master/experiments/go-nim
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22:55:39Araqcool
22:55:58Xeprobably gonna blogpost that
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23:09:22onionhammeraraq then get rid of the c back end :)
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23:25:40Araqonionhammer: do you happen to know how Firebase works under the hood?
23:25:50Araqwith websockets and stuff
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