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00:05:24*qwr . o O ( clang C compiler is actually also quite good at cross-compiling, but getting suitable libc for linking is a bit of PITA... )
00:06:59kernasigood night :)
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00:53:45pipeepIs there a way to turn an iterator into an array or seq?
00:54:40pipeepoh, toSeq.
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01:12:00JentelHello guys.I need your help in C# or Java. Have you idea how to finish that phrase: "The kit of methods-members in class is considering as ................. of class" ?
01:12:43flaviuJentel: Sorry, this channel is about Nim, not C# or Java.
01:16:24qwrJentel: try ##java channel
01:17:25flaviuJentel: Also, that sounds like a homework question. You should consider asking one of your classmates instead of random IRC channels.
01:19:05dhasenanWas wondering if Nim had a hint for unused imports, so I checked. Found a bug about it...nearly three years old. Maybe next year, then.
01:20:16Jentelflaviu , i know. Simply this is too specific qestion for me in finding a tutorial at that problem. May be you have any ideas ?
01:21:36def-dhasenan: that sounds like it wouldn't be that hard to implement. and would be useful to have
01:22:05dhasenandef-: I'm a bit too busy to be mucking about in unfamiliar compilers :)
01:22:20dhasenanMaybe next year.
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01:39:52wbJentel: maybe "interface" or "signature". But yeah, a C# or java channel would be better.
01:41:33Jentelthank you , wb.
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02:00:26whitenoiseis this actually creating two procs, or is it just like the declarations in C?
02:00:31whitenoisehttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/P7Sdqkv1
02:01:10whitenoiseim guessing if it was creating two procs it would get onto me for trying to redefine the proc
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02:02:17qwrwhitenoise: declaration. try to comment out the second one :)
02:03:14whitenoiseahh, Error: implementation expected :)
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02:03:15whitenoisecool
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04:49:34nimnoob123Hey, could anyone recommend me a good place/book to learn functional programming
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04:56:52dhasenannimnoob123: There's Learn You a Haskell for Great Good, though I couldn't follow it myself.
04:57:24dhasenanI learned FP from creating a text adventure thing (like Twine) in Elm.
04:59:20nimnoob123i'll check it out, coming from oo programming, I'm so used to using class methods in other class methods w/out having to worry about order and what not. nim's like this atm (I heard eventually there's a possibility after 1.0 that class methods would work like that, unsure though)
04:59:47nimnoob123i like the way nim looks though so I want to adapt, maybe even become a better programmer
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05:01:51nimnoob123plus nim's sdl/opengl lib binding syntax looks better in nim than it does in rust. ;p
05:01:52dhasenanWhile Nim supports functional programming, it isn't a functional programming language. Are you trying to learn how to program in a less object oriented way, suitable for Nim?
05:02:13nimnoob123exactly dhasenan
05:02:39dhasenanSo Learn You a Haskell is not the place to go.
05:03:11dhasenanReally, you can just code like you would in Java, except if you notice that a class doesn't have any state, you rewrite it as not-a-class.
05:03:13nimnoob123what would you recommend? or just checking project source out would be a better option that uses nim
05:04:01dhasenanJust start coding.
05:04:29nimnoob123on that thought, does github show nim as nim or nimlang now or is it still listing projects under nimrod?
05:04:32nimnoob123though*
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05:26:27dtscodeis there something in the stdlib like pythons split, which has a max number of splits?
05:26:34dtscodeor rather, can have
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06:31:16nimnoob123"Later versions of the language may get rid of the need for forward declarations." is that true?
06:32:20dhasenanAraq has said that he wants to make it happen, but there are some non-obvious interactions with metaprogramming that make it difficult.
06:32:52dhasenanEr, I don't actually know whether Araq uses masculine pronouns. Adjust previous sentence accordingly.
06:33:20nimnoob123lol
06:33:35nimnoob123thanks
06:33:35dhasenanI don't see anything funny about that.
06:33:44nimnoob123i was laughing at the 2nd line
06:34:15dhasenanYes. I don't see anything funny about that.
06:34:55nimnoob123and we'll leave it there
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06:37:41dhasenanGender is a part of people's identity that they tend to take quite seriously. It's also pervasive in most languages. Making unwarranted assumptions about people's gender can annoy and upset them. I see no reason to laugh about someone attempting not to annoy or upset people.
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07:07:16ekarlsoso devel doesn't build atm on osx..
07:07:39ekarlsohttps://bpaste.net/show/6a879c2fc7a1
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07:48:43def-ekarlso: are you using the right compiler version (from csources) to build it?
08:17:27nimnoob123is there a place to follow the changes since 0.10.2? (nightly)
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08:21:10fowltheres a change log somewhere
08:21:37fowli cant find it
08:21:53ekarlsodef-: I just git clone and bash build.sh
08:23:13ekarlsooh def- nvm
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08:25:10ekarlsois there a buffer read thing in nim ?
08:27:01fowlsystem.readbuffer()?
08:27:02gokrGood morning
08:27:16ekarlsofowl: ok
08:27:18ekarlso:P
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08:31:03nimnoob123took me an hour to figure out that i had to mark my imported object properties with an asterisk if i wanted to access the value from a method, the tut made it seem like it imported the whole object type (excluding methods)
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08:33:15gokrdhasenan: Araq is Andreas Rumpf, has wife and two kids. And although those are simply indicators :) he doesn't complain when referred to as "he" :)
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08:34:07gokrnimnoob123: Btw, have you seen my articles? And the... nim by example site?
08:34:29nimnoob123not sure if i seen your articles
08:34:38gokrhttp://goran.krampe.se/category/nim
08:34:47fowlnimnoob123, dont feel bad, i still learn new things when i look at the manual and i've been using nim for years
08:35:12*gokr perhaps I should make that Nim article list today that I have started like 7 times... :)
08:35:13nimnoob123http://nim-by-example.github.io/oop/ I did read this, but it doesn't talk about that issue i had
08:35:45gokrnimnoob123: Oh, and you want to do game programming?
08:36:09nimnoob123how'd you know ;o?
08:36:16gokrIf so, then the Urhonimo project we just released should be perfect.
08:36:28gokr(I read the log)
08:36:58nimnoob123on gh?
08:37:10nimnoob123trying to figure out why my webchat stopped autoscrolling
08:37:26gokrhttp://forum.nim-lang.org/t/870
08:38:04gokrAnd for a taste: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T0MrJkLB8Y
08:39:00nimnoob123ah I've never head of this, i've been playing with sdl2/c++ before nim/rust - looked at nim first a while back and tip toed in rust, but there's some things i don't like about the look of the syntax now im back 'home' I guess lol
08:39:45nimnoob123looks coolt hough (that demo)
08:40:09gokrThat demo is 595 lines of code.
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08:41:08czrhi all. was trying to find some information on the history on the language on nim-lang.org, but failed. any ideas where to look for it?
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08:41:14nimnoob123dang
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08:41:38gokrczr: Hmmm, newly surrected wikipedia page perhaps
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08:42:08czrnigerian institute of management? :--)
08:42:09nimnoob123thanks for the links gokr, but I have to wake up in about 5 hours to work :( lost track of time
08:42:19czrthanks gokr
08:42:20gokrnimnoob123: No prob! :)
08:42:23gokrczr: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_(programming_language)
08:42:40gokrI do know Araq estimates the "start" of Nim to be 2006.
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08:42:43fowlgokr, why do you need to emit the code in character.nim (the attribute stuff couldnt be a macro?)
08:42:58gokrAsk Araq. He intends to fix that though.
08:43:01gokrI am not sure.
08:43:40gokrfowl: Did you pull btw? I made huge.nim yesterday, and also added stuff in sample.nim (reusable stuff)
08:43:53gokrAlthough huge.nim doesn't compile without a silly hack in cgen.nim
08:45:12fowldo you need a LogicComponent subclass that you can access from nim? or is the plan to make inheritance work with c++ classes?
08:45:21gokrThe plan is to make it work
08:45:36fowlcool
08:45:54gokrYup! In fact, this C++ support may turn into a killer argument for Nim IMHO.
08:46:37gokrfowl: Let me know if you want that silly hack to compile huge.nim, otherwise I guess Araq will fix it as soon as he pops up.
08:46:58fowlwould you mind if i copied some stuff out to onionhammer 's clibpp, id like to take cnew() and offsetof()
08:47:35gokrI don't mind, its MIT
08:47:42gokrAnd well, its Araq's baby
08:48:01gokrBut I mean, its MIT ;)
08:48:20gokrclibpp?
08:48:34fowlhttps://github.com/onionhammer/clibpp
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08:49:46gokrOk, so... it wraps C++ classes?
08:51:40fowlyea
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08:53:44Araqmorning guys
08:53:56Araqugh ... I hate it when the bug detection code has a bug ...
08:54:09gokrMorning! Feeling better?
08:54:18Araqall the knowledge I gained is worthless
08:54:30Araqsince I have a bug in my bug detection
08:54:35Araqgokr: a little
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09:43:45ekarlsois there any smart way if you have a enum of ints to map int > enum ?
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09:46:40def-ekarlso: what's an enum of ints?
09:47:08ekarlsodef-: like T: enum foo = 1 bar = 2
09:47:37BlaXpiritT(1) ???
09:47:50ekarlsogawd, im so stupid :D
09:48:42ekarlsoso I got a package, src/exceptions.nim and src/foo/bar.nim can I import exceptions somehow in bar.nim ?
09:49:24def-that type conversion to enum is pretty nice. throws a compile time error if it can, otherwise a runtime range error (if range errors enabled)
09:49:56BlaXpiritsrc/exceptions.nim is probably not good
09:50:29ekarlsoBlaXpirit: how else ?
09:50:30def-ekarlso: i guess "import ../bar" doesn't work? you can choose to include another directory into the path like i did here: https://github.com/def-/nim-brainfuck/blob/master/tests/nim.cfg (path = ...)
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09:56:10ekarlsodef-: didnt seem to help :/
10:01:40ekarlsowhat's a pattern for tests atm ?
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10:06:12def-I hope the one I have there is fine, it's also described in http://howistart.org/posts/nim/1
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10:18:12Araqgmpreussner|work: good news, I fixed #2125, but how it ever worked remains a mystery ...
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10:31:17ekarlsowhat exception is raised if you Enum(1) and it's out of range ?
10:31:56BlaXpirittry
10:32:13ekarlsoI tried using ValueError but :'
10:34:51BlaXpiritwell if you can't be bothered to try
10:34:54BlaXpiritthere you go: RangeError
10:36:52Araqekarlso: you shouldn't catch that, it's gone in release mode, you should write a range check on your own like so:
10:37:31Araqif x < low(Enum).int or x > high(Enum).int: fatal "int value out of range"
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10:48:41ekarlsoAraq: and if you want to raise a custom exc instead of rangeerror ?
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10:49:17Araqa custom exc for a programming bug?
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12:53:52akiradeveloperhello
12:55:03akiradevelopera small example fails https://github.com/akiradeveloper/nim-is-fun/blob/master/tmode.nim　　33206'u32 can't be converted to TMode but I believe it can because TMode is cint that's enough wide for that value.
12:55:30akiradevelopervalue out of range?
12:55:32akiradeveloperwhy?
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13:01:55TEttingerunsigned/signed difference?
13:02:02TEttingerI'm not sure either
13:02:10TEttinger(I just got here)
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13:45:00infinity0federico3: i'm done for now tweaking the debian package, you can review/release when you want to
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13:57:19dyuAnybody here able to successfully compile/run nim on freebsd 9.x?
13:57:50dyuI get this error on `sh build.sh` - http://pastebin.com/1Vj58Qr1
13:58:34Araquse a real OS which has headers that do not depend on #include orders
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14:01:22dyuAraq: i use linux, I'm just trying to run nim on my freenas box
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14:09:33Araqdyu: so report it to the BSD guys.
14:11:51AraqI'm tired of the tremendous amount of hacks that are required for Poonix.
14:12:16*Araq just pulled another fix for some missing POSIX_SPAWNV flag
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14:56:47ekarlsoAraq: poonix ?
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14:57:32Araqekarlso: yes, I really don't like Unix. learn to deal with it.
15:00:42TEttingerit's better than only supporting Unix, like so many other language devs
15:01:29TEttinger"well we couldn't figure out how to do anything on windows so we won't support most PCs that run it, that's ok for you right language user?"
15:03:21ekarlsoAraq: what OS you on then ?
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15:25:28dom96_Araq: Don't be mean to the BSD users.
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15:27:07Araqdom96_: I'm not mean to any *user*. but in 2015 it has to be possible to not be a fan of a design stemming from the 70ies, no matter how successful it has been.
15:27:49dom96_Araq: Telling somebody to use a "real OS" is a bit mean.
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15:41:02Araqso how do you call an OS where "INADDR_ANY" doesn't work out of the box? it certainly is not "operating".
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15:48:47shevyhah!
15:48:50shevyBSD guys
15:48:56shevyuse linux guys
16:02:55novistlinux people say "systemd! time to migrate to BSD!"
16:10:40infinity0there's good and bad things about systemd
16:10:46infinity0hopefully the bad things will go away in 4-5 years
16:12:41gokrdyu: Don't mind Araq, he's just a bit grumpy and ranting sometimes. ;)
16:13:15dyugokr: heh, never did :-)
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16:15:18infinity0does nim code compile into shared libraries?
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16:16:28gokrYep
16:16:57dyushevy: I do use linux, I only use freebsd for zfs
16:17:22dyumainly for backups
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16:39:15ekarlsohow do you do sockets with nim ?
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16:40:36ldleworkekarlso: http://nim-lang.org/net.html ?
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16:41:31ekarlsowhat's the equiv of http://doc.rust-lang.org/0.12.0/std/io/struct.BufferedReader.html in nim ?
16:43:02wtwdyu: that's a problem stemming from some obsolete definition/use in freebsd's netinet/in.h, I believe someone solved it by adding an equivalent of #define uint32_t u_int32_t
16:43:25wtwdyu: to the csources or so, I don't remember
16:45:22ldleworkekarlso: I'm pretty sure the socket in the net module already supports buffering
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16:52:46reactormonkdom96_, what's the correct behaviour of split then?
16:53:13dom96_reactormonk: the one you saw
16:53:22reactormonkok
16:53:45dom96_but i dunno, check if it's the same in other languages
16:56:39ekarlsoanyone done any dns stuff yet in nim ?
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17:13:42reactormonkuhm, why isn't result var?
17:13:57ldleworkwhat?
17:14:18reactormonkldlework, tried to pass result to another function as var seq
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17:14:32ldleworkI see
17:15:26reactormonkldlework, should that be possible?
17:16:13ldleworkWell, I at least agree that its reasonable to try to pass result to some other function.
17:16:24ldleworkShould it work right now, no idea.
17:17:33reactormonkhm.
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17:17:42reactormonkoh, wrong type. IT does work.
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17:30:03reactormonkhow do I get the pointer of a cstring? cast[uint](ptr cstring) or cast[uint](cstring)
17:30:32BlaXpiritreactormonk, are you sure you want the number
17:30:41reactormonkBlaXpirit, yes
17:30:54BlaXpiritit should be cast[uint](cstring)
17:31:03BlaXpiritor maybe [int] who knows
17:31:34BlaXpiritthat's probably wrong, but i've seen it somewhere
17:31:41reactormonkBlaXpirit, nah, pointers are uint
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17:45:49reactormonkAny way I can pass strings generated by a template to {.emit.}?
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17:46:55reactormonk{.emit: "action `$tokentype & "_e"` { `$tokentype & "_e"`(p)}"} <- any way I can run this in a template?
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17:48:23filwitreactormonk: idk, but have you tried making a macro which ouputs an emit pragma?
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17:48:50reactormonkfilwit, nope. Any way I can ask the compiler how a macro would look like?
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17:49:33filwitreactormonk: import macros; dumptree: {.emit: "...".}
17:49:39reactormonkAnd can I call a macro inside a template?
17:49:41filwitreactormonk: ^ untested
17:49:48reactormonklet' see
17:50:11filwityes you should be able too. I'm not sure of the limitations here, it's just a suggestion
17:50:39reactormonkworks
17:50:46reactormonklet's see if it works inside the template too
17:51:13reactormonkpretty sure Araq's going to facepalm at my code at least once ;-)
17:52:06reactormonkfilwit, http://sprunge.us/gWjI <- any documentation what I do with that?
17:54:02filwitreactormonk: first time working with macros?
17:54:13reactormonkfilwit, yup. been using templates so far.
17:54:32filwitreactormonk: this is basically the pragma as the compiler sees it (the AST structure)
17:54:52filwitso basically you need to reverse engineer it to emit your own
17:54:57filwitone sec, let me make you a gist
17:55:21reactormonkhm.
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18:00:04reactormonkfilwit, I think I got a simpler solution, let's see if it compiles... let ename = $tokentype & "_e" {.emit: "foo $ename".}
18:00:24reactormonkwait, string stuff doesn't really work that way in nim :-/
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18:02:55reactormonkhm, with a bit of tinkering, it does.
18:04:01filwitreactomonk: https://gist.github.com/PhilipWitte/f094f8894df2d0003b98
18:04:09filwitreactormonk: ^
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18:04:26reactormonkfilwit, nice
18:04:35filwit:)
18:04:47filwityes they are very powerful
18:05:18reactormonkmail.nim(40, 26) Error: cannot evaluate at compile time: token
18:05:21reactormonk:-(
18:05:47reactormonkhttp://sprunge.us/DCfS
18:06:01filwitgive me a sec
18:06:38reactormonksure
18:06:48filwiti don't see a macro in this code
18:06:59filwitand it's hard to see what line you're talking about in that
18:08:10reactormonkjust curl -O mail.nim http://sprunge.us/DCfS && nim --compileOnly c mail.nim
18:08:19dyuwtw: thanks, I'll shall try that
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18:10:45filwitreactormonk: the problem is you're looping over a enum at runtime. The template just lowers to runtime code, it does not evaluate at compile-time like a macro does
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18:11:44filwitreactormonk: a macro executes on Nim's virtual machine at compile time... a template only sort-of does that (it will inject things at compile-time, but the then it just injects the result as runtime code)
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18:12:09reactormonkfilwit, so I need a macro instead of a template here?
18:12:13filwityes
18:12:27filwitbut things need to change a bit for that to work
18:12:31reactormonk:-/
18:12:36filwitlet me see if I can't fix it up to show you
18:12:51reactormonk♥
18:13:00reactormonk... gotta fix that unicode
18:13:13filwitthe heart comes through on my end
18:14:02reactormonknot here. :-(
18:14:12filwitmaybe it's just a font issue
18:14:27reactormonkmayb,e gotta check
18:23:26TEttingerI see a heart
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18:26:13reactormonkperfect
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18:44:34filwitreactormonk: almost have it working, but I'm not sure what's going on with the line: "Event(tokentype: TokenType, ..."
18:44:49reactormonkfilwit, object construction
18:45:08filwitreactormonk: you cannot pass type `TokenType` to Event's tokenType field
18:45:24reactormonkfilwit, oops
18:45:51reactormonk container.add(Event(tokentype, position, enter))
18:45:54filwitif i make that 'comment' or something it compiles but fails on my system (to be expected)
18:45:59reactormonkor
18:46:01reactormonk container.add(Event(tokentype: tokenType, position: position, eventtype: enter))
18:46:22filwitk, one sec
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18:46:33reactormonkfilwit, it's supposed to be the tokentype that's passed in via iteration
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18:51:34filwitreactormonk: okay, this code gets past all the macro stuff, but doesn't fully compile on my system (expected): https://gist.github.com/PhilipWitte/fb32e7c63a47fb26506b
18:52:17reactormonkfilwit, cool, thanks
18:52:20filwitreactormonk: let me know if you can adapt that to your real code. The only part that's failing is with line 33
18:52:39reactormonkfilwit, not unexpected, it's supposed to be passed through ragel
18:53:07filwitreactormonk: yeah I wasn't expecting it to fully work on my machine
18:53:33filwitreactormonk: which is why i want to know if it works for you :) (so i know i got it right)
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18:55:48reactormonkfilwit, kinda works, how do I get rid of the nimln ... code?
18:56:07reactormonkand btw, it's not replacing `token`
18:57:07filwitreactormonk: i updated the gist a tad (cleaner code with the emit `token`_s thing)... not sure what you mean by "nimln ... code"
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18:57:49filwitreactormonk: about it not replacing token... i just realized that.. it will be dropping the identifier "token" for each loop... one sec
18:57:53reactormonkfilwit, take a look at the generated c code
18:58:17reactormonkyou'll need to add a echo(parse("foobar"))
18:58:42ekarlsois the nim website auto deployed or ?–––
18:58:47ekarlsoa'la puppet or so managed ?
18:59:42filwitekarlso: i don't know for sure, but I doubt it. It's probably just uploaded via ftp. You'll have to ask Araq or dom96 to be sure.
19:00:14def-ekarlso: manually. dom96 should update it again, please
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19:01:06ekarlsowhaaa
19:01:12ekarlsold: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64
19:01:16ekarlsoon osx :/
19:01:56filwitreactormonk: i'm going to have to call it quits on this I think. I need to do other things now. But the problem with it generating `token` is due to the lines 19-21... the `$token` is literally turning "token" into a string a making a identifier out of that
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19:02:25reactormonkfilwit, hm.
19:02:28filwitreactormonk: if you're still having problems later I can try to help (or another person here can help you resolve that)
19:02:29reactormonkI'll take a look then
19:02:35filwitsorry, good luck
19:03:17ekarlsodunno why it fails :/
19:03:36filwitreactormonk: try using `token.repr` instead of `$token`... might do the same thing but i'm not sure.
19:04:51reactormonkfilwit, no, the iToken is fine. it's the string replacement in emit.
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20:15:49kjo1Can I use map to convert an array of things from one type to another? bytearray.map(chr) and bytearray.map(char) are both giving me some trouble.
20:16:11kjo1(it works if I create an explicit lambda proc)
20:17:52def-kjo1: the problem is that these procs are not defined as closures, so you can't use them in map directly
20:18:24kjo1ah ok, thanks def-
20:18:46def-inside of a module it works without specifying a proc as {.closure.}, but not when importing another module
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20:28:41kjo1I need to read up more on the calling conventions
20:30:50kjo1just started learning nim, and I am coming to realize the pragma's are quite important. Got bit by a missing .bycall. pragma in some code that called out to a C library. ouch.
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20:40:27kjo1Does anyone know if there is a nim module similar to python's struct string unpacking module? Kind of the opposite of strfmt?
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20:42:38def-kjo1: i don't think I've seen something like that,but would be nice to have
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20:51:20kjo1def- question about the closure/module business
20:51:26kjo1I noticed this example
20:51:30kjo1https://github.com/Araq/Nim/blob/master/examples/maximum.nim
20:51:43kjo1does that work b/c parseInt does have a {.closure.}
20:51:45kjo1?
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20:54:48def-ehm, it's {.procvar.}, not closure, my bad. but yes
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21:01:45def-closure was for iterators
21:02:14kjo1I see
21:02:18kjo1what's the magic pragma about?
21:02:34kjo1comparing chr with parseInt
21:02:36kjo1proc chr(u: range[0 .. 255]): char {.magic: "Chr", noSideEffect.}
21:02:47kjo1proc parseInt(s: string; number: var int; start = 0): int {.gcsafe,
21:02:47kjo1 extern: "npuParseInt", noSideEffect, raises: [OverflowError], tags: [].}
21:03:26def-kjo1: "magic" just means the compiler will do something magical to make it work and no implementation is given there
21:04:52kjo1apt name then :)
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22:40:31ekarlsohow in unittests can u check that exceptions are raised ? is there any special tool or just try /exc ?
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22:41:31def-ekarlso: expect(IndexError) according to the documentation
22:41:44Mat4ciao
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22:44:08shalabhhello
22:44:19def-welcome, shalabh
22:44:39shalabhso who's managing the gsoc 2015 application this year?
22:44:45shalabhhi def-
22:44:59def-that's me with araq as backup admin
22:46:18shalabhdid you find a voucher yet?
22:46:37def-no, unfortunately not
22:46:44shalabhis it too late?
22:46:54def-no, still have 2 days
22:47:08shalabhI can vouch for you, but what does it mean?
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22:47:27def-That's nice! Do you work at google?
22:47:32shalabhyes
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22:48:52reactormonkConnected from a google IP, looks legit to me.
22:49:28def-Hm, can't find anything official about what it means
22:50:07shalabhWell lets put me down and we'll see. I think it just means 'I think these guys are a legit org doing good work that deserves gsoc'
22:50:22def-My understanding is that you say that we're an interesting project and worthy of participating in gsoc
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22:50:42reactormonkshalabh, so it's basically like someone vouching for you if you wanna get hired?
22:50:50shalabhI still think the ideas page is not as fleshed out. But I"ll vouch for you anyway.
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22:51:39def-I had a deadline today, planning to fix it up tomorrow
22:51:43shalabhfeedback from last year: <carols> for next year i'd say take a couple ideas off the page and flesh out the ones you have there
22:52:09shalabhI think they may want to see a bit more technical detail about the work.
22:52:15reactormonkdef-, the ragel stuff isn't that easy, and it's not gonna be in C.
22:52:19reactormonks/not//
22:52:31shalabhthe 'viable gc research platform' sounds too vague a title
22:52:33shalabhanyway
22:52:52reactormonkshalabh, how many ideas would you reduce it to?
22:52:52shalabhwho should I pm to add me to the application? I can also send email from my work.
22:53:09shalabhbtw, I'm not involved in gsoc at all so my advice is as good as anybody elses
22:54:10def-you can pm me
22:54:32shalabhreactormonk: 5-7
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23:05:25SharchoIs there already an implementation of a database connection pool for use with httpserver?
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23:09:23def-Sharcho: haven't seen anything like that
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