<<18-04-2013>>

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05:18:52reactormonkAraq, *waves with BTC*
05:25:52NimBotAraq/Nimrod 21399ad Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz [+0 ±1 -0]: Adds to docstrings link between removeFile and removeDir.
05:25:52NimBotAraq/Nimrod acae318 Simon Hafner [+0 ±1 -0]: Merge pull request #392 from gradha/pr_improves_os_docstrings... 3 more lines
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15:44:34dom96hi
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17:29:30dom96So Araq is away on holidays or something.
17:29:38*dom96 appoints himself as new BDFL
17:29:44gradhais he?
17:30:13gradhamaybe he got hit by a bus
17:30:53dom96He is, he should really announce things like this here.
17:32:43gradhamaybe he will send back the photo of a waterfall and sunset while drinking pi?a colada, so the photo will be all blurry
17:34:22dom96we can only hope.
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17:50:53gradhalet's party!
17:51:09gradhasince the boss is not around you can now commit anything you want dom96
17:51:38gradhaunless you've had this old fashioned sense of benevolent dictatorship passed on to you
17:54:18dom96I fear for my safety when he comes back :P
17:56:02gradhathe lingering shadow of fear, subtle and effective
17:56:44gradhawhy where you worried about linode? anything hosted there?
17:56:57dom96Only all of nimrod-code.org :P
17:57:19gradhaperfect, if Araq comes back you can blame it all on hackerz
17:57:27dom96lol.
17:57:38dom96I actually reported my debit card stolen just in case.
17:57:52dom96I'm still not sure whether I should trust Linode.
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18:14:18gradhaamazing, I'm actually a hipster cat http://memegenerator.net/instance/26561758
18:14:55gradhanice one for style discussions http://memegenerator.net/instance/37103381
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19:11:20avarushallo freunde, haaalloo :)
19:11:33gradhayohohooo avarus
19:12:01gradhaany plans for taking over the world?
19:12:14avarusyarr
19:12:21avarusall or nothing
19:13:33gradhaman, nimrod is bloated, my rmdir command is 14K but my nimrod version of it takes up 133K
19:14:03avaruscreate it with go and it will be 2MB :)
19:14:30avarusgradha: tried upx --best?
19:14:38gradharight, forgot about upx
19:14:53gradhanice, 47K
19:14:59avarus:)
19:15:29gradhainteresting, startup time is also four times slower like binary size
19:16:28avarus:D
19:16:40avarusbut still fast, right?
19:16:53dom96tried --opt:size?
19:16:59gradhareal 0m0.028s
19:16:59gradhauser 0m0.004s
19:16:59gradhasys 0m0.004s
19:17:45gradha--opt:size is about 20K less for uncompressed, 5K less with upx
19:18:49gradhabtw is go that bad?
19:18:53dom96what more do you want? :p
19:19:44avarusgradha: no, it just creates a statically built binary
19:20:04avaruslinked
19:20:34gradhaso it's like mono then? "hey look at this 30K binary (with 50MB dependency)!"
19:20:40avarusso even a hello world is big in file size
19:21:13avarusno, there's no runtime like with mono
19:23:17gradhamono is not that big either, though I remember the statically linked binaries for hello world to weight in the range of MB
19:51:17OrionPKyou guys need different length names
19:51:30gradhaplease ellaborate
19:52:01OrionPKavarus/gradha are both 6 chars long
19:52:12OrionPKso when u two are talking to each other it looks like someone talking to himself
19:52:27gradhain my head it looks that way anyway
19:54:24avarus:)
19:54:50OrionPKhehe
19:56:06reactormonkOrionPK, get a sensible IRC client that colors nicknames
19:56:36gradhadom96: implement alternating colors for irc logs please
19:56:42OrionPKwhat client do you use?
19:57:18gradhax-chat here
19:57:37OrionPKI use y-chat
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19:59:03gradhaactually x-chat doesn't alternate colors between people too
19:59:10avaruswow, now you made me remember that I used xircon in my nt4 days :)
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20:12:17dom96gradha: will do
20:18:13dom96I'm planning on generating json and then rendering the json when requested.
20:18:29dom96This will allow for some nice features.
20:18:43dom96As well as fix the annoying bug where NimBot overwrites the logs if it's restarted.
20:19:29gradhamy basic idea of an irc logger would be to store every message immediately to an sqlite database with a timestamp, then run a cronjob to extract the entries and generate the html
20:19:41gradhain theory this would not lose logs
20:20:04dom96yeah, that might be a better approach.
20:20:26dom96Generating the logs on the fly would be alright I think.
20:21:02gradhayou can still use json to store in the sqlite database, which is only there for persistence and crashes
20:21:36gradhabut using json in sqlite is just like a nosqlite database, maybe use mongodb or similar?
20:23:08OrionPKmongodb has a pretty poor reputation
20:23:56OrionPKlike.. data corruption/loss type of reputation
20:24:34gradhain that case it wouldn't improve over the current nodatabase version of the logger
20:24:37dom96Maybe I should just use redis.
20:24:46dom96Which is already used.
20:27:27gradhawhat do you use redis for?
20:28:03OrionPKhttp://try.redis.io/
20:28:51dom96gradha: For !seen and I also use it to store all nimbuild data.
20:44:56gradhaso have you finally been brainwashed by the Apple halo effect and plan to buy a laptop to develop ios nimrod hello world apps?
20:45:44dom96hell no.
20:45:44dom96I like my money
20:47:21gradhayou say that now, but the ring will keep tempting you, and some day...
21:02:02gradhahow can I use the dash in the parameter name?
21:02:11gradhaI'm trying `a-b` but doesn't seem to work
21:03:07dom96I'm not sure that is allowed.
21:03:53gradhathe htmlgen module defines attributes like accept-charset but how can I pass them in?
21:03:58dom96gradha: what is your code?
21:04:11dom96`accept-charset` should work.
21:04:45gradhausing that gives me an error about accept not being found in the node
21:05:28dom96I guess it's a bug then
21:06:11gradhawait, it worked, huh
21:10:19gradhaah, I know why, the second part gets discarded, it outputs accept instead of accept-charset
21:23:29dom96hehe, I see you got bored of me waiting to implement that UTF-8 charset for the irc logs
21:24:05gradhaif bored means cleaning up the todo list, yes
21:24:22gradhaafter all I could be watching kpop
21:30:25dom96You could be.. but you shouldn't be. First you need to help Nimrod dominate everything.
21:31:05gradhaat some point I'll nimrodize my python script which renames downloaded kpop files
21:33:28dom96yes, nimrodize all the things.
21:34:31gradhathat will be interesting because it has to deal with unicode normalization in filesystem names
21:34:52gradhaotherwise the regular expressions and comparisons may not work as expected
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21:46:48gradhatoday I received physical SPAM about getting FTTH, upload speed of 10Mb, maybe I could host nimrod-code
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22:12:34dom96Nah, i'll most likely be keeping the linode.
22:17:42dom96'night
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