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01:50:53tautologicoit seems generic templates aren't working... what is the recommended workaround?
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04:07:33cjh`where are the semantics for nim's assignment operator defined? in particular: when a user defined assignment operator is expected to be called
04:07:38cjh`context: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/4174
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09:03:11Vladarhi
09:04:30Vladarshould it be considered a bug if "+".parseFloat(f) and "-".parseFloat(f) returns 1?
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09:06:17Araq_Vladar: indeed. regression?
09:06:45Vladarprobably, wasn't there before
09:06:58Vladarthen I post it on github
09:07:11Araq_we changed parseFloat yesterday :-)
09:07:20VladarparseInt is all right though
09:07:22Araq_great how quick you are
09:07:28Araq_we didn't change parseInt ;-)
09:08:06Vladarmy lis.nim started infinite-looping on (+ a b) and (- a b) =)
09:11:50Vladarposted
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09:31:33yglukhovAraq_: hi, could you please have a look into https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/4068? It's been a while...
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09:36:05Araq_yglukhov: I have looked into this bug before without any insights, but your fix cannot work and you know it
09:37:59yglukhovAraq_: will my fix break anything?
09:38:29Araq_it should. typedesc[enum] is simply not the same as enum
09:43:58Araq_hmm for your test program I now get
09:44:00Araq_lib/core/macros.nim(257, 22) Error: redefinition of 'geItem1'
09:44:06Araq_wtf
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09:50:17yglukhovim getting the same now. regardless of my fix. some new regression probably.
09:51:35ParashuramaAraq_: My bad for the parseFloat issue. The fix should be pretty easy.
09:51:59Araq_Parashurama: please fix it
09:52:01Parashuramasimply check for a single 'sign' with nodigits
09:52:23Araq_no worries, but I cannot do every little bugfix on my own
09:52:39Araq_I wouldn't do anything else the whole day then.
09:54:56ParashuramaAraq_: how do you add a test file in tests. simply adding the file in the folder?
09:58:10yglukhovAraq_: the regression was introduced in https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/commit/c870e831c8ab53adacffa80939be70de85de7601
09:58:27Araq_yglukhov: yeah I know, and I have a fix for that
09:58:47Araq_Parashurama: depends on the folder and the file needs to start with 't'
09:58:52yglukhovcool. do you by any chance have a fix for my issue? ;)
09:58:59Araq_working on it
09:59:15Araq_I think I know what's wrong with it
09:59:38yglukhovfingers crossed =)
09:59:43ParashuramaAraq_: so i can just add a tfloat5.nim in tests/float/ and it should work.
10:00:09Araq_try it: tests/testament/tester cat float
10:00:34Araq_I have an alias for that btw, 'tt float'
10:01:41ParashuramaOk it works. nice.
10:15:26Araq_yglukhov: the real problem seems to be that an enum without an attached symbol is produced
10:18:33yglukhovok, but the symbol should then be attached when after macro returns, right? and i suppose if my fix is so simple to make it work, then the "right" fix should not be much harder? =)
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10:38:09Araq_yglukhov: indeed, I have a proper fix
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10:44:43Araq_yglukhov: check it out and change your PR to only add the testcase
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10:48:13yglukhovawesome!
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12:05:08SalewskiremoveDir() but only when dir is empty. Ideas?
12:08:53Salewskihttps://rosettacode.org/wiki/Empty_directory#Nim
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12:35:38cheatfatedom96, you can update your https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/4123
12:36:51kulelu88I was watching Araq_s talk at Nim conf last year, very cool
12:37:13Gonzihkulelu88: link?
12:37:58kulelu88https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb3Sqs7lNJo
12:38:05Gonzihthanks!
12:39:55dom96cheatfate: updated
12:42:54cheatfatedom96, and what `cancel` must do? just set state of future to `canceled` and call callback? or you want to introduce another callback?
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13:01:43arnetheducklet's say I have a bunch of tasks that I want to run in parallel, limited by #cpus and collect results from each.. how would I go about?
13:02:37arnetheduckI can prepare the list up front or as the tasks finish, doesn't really matter (though I guess the latter makes more sense because then generation and running can be parallel as well)
13:06:48Araq_arnetheduck: results[i] = spawn foo() and then collect the acc = merge(acc, ^results[i])
13:12:28arnetheduckthanks
13:14:23dom96cheatfate: possibly a bit more than that
13:14:31dom96for windows it needs to cancel the operation
13:17:30cheatfatedom96, and this is a problem, because CancelIO operation would cancel all operations for `handle`...
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13:18:41cheatfateCancelIoEx was introduced only with Vista
13:19:21dom96That's good enough.
13:20:03dom96We can fallback to select on Windows, or just not support 'cancel' on it.
13:20:11dom96*windows XP
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13:22:35cheatfateand there is one more problem CancelIO could not cancel operations which are not belongs to thread...
13:28:01cheatfateso if we start #cpu poll() threads we can't use cancelIO anymore...
13:30:42cheatfateso i think we need threadId in future
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15:59:49tautologicois there a way to pass a type to a macro?
16:04:35Araq_tautologico: sure, via typedesc
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16:24:21yglukhovAraq_: should it be easy to allow macro pragmas over type definitions? :)
16:24:47Araq_in theory, yes.
16:24:53Araq_in practice ... not so much.
16:34:03ArrrrDo you plan to introduce them?
16:37:58Araq_sure
16:42:38ArrrrSure as in "Why not" or it is in your todo list
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16:47:04Araq_it's in my todo, but low priority.
16:49:36ArrrrI see
16:59:13tautologicoany documentation about creating macros with quoting & antiquoting? can't find anything in the manual or tutorial
17:00:16Arrrrdo you mean using quote do ?
17:00:54tautologicoI think I saw something about quoting in the macros module
17:01:10tautologicolike lisp macros
17:01:18tautologico'(f (,a ,b))
17:01:45tautologicoso I don't have to build the AST by hand
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17:02:31dom96tautologico: you can use this http://nim-lang.org/docs/macros.html#quote,stmt,string
17:02:37dom96but in my experience it doesn't work very well
17:02:55tautologicoI see
17:03:00dom96you can also use parseStmt/expr or templates + getAst
17:03:18tautologicofor my current use case a generic template would be enough, but the compiler SIGSEGV's when compiling the template
17:03:34dom96that's a compiler bug, report it on github
17:03:56tautologicowill do
17:05:23dom96thanks
17:08:37Araq_tautologico: my favourite solution is template + getAst
17:10:45tautologicoAraq_: do you have an example of that?
17:12:07Araq_macro m(...): untyped =
17:12:10Araq_ template helper(x, i): untyped = x[i] * i + i
17:12:23Araq_ result = getAst(helper(foo, bar))
17:13:01Araq_the crucial part is that the template can be .dirty
17:13:23Araq_macros.quote doesn't support dirtiness iirc
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17:22:00dom96macros.quote needs to be fixed
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17:24:37Araq_so fix it and give a 'dirty=true' parameter
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17:30:04cheatfatefunny, nim's github readme.md is show "build failing" now in Nim header
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17:31:19Araq_because it does fail
17:31:27Araq_because I produced a regression, I'm working on it
17:32:06cheatfateAraq_, you are so fast :)
17:32:44cheatfatei was compiled my new nim in 5 OSes and all was fine, got some sleep and now all is not fine :)
17:33:05cheatfateand this was 4 hours ago
17:33:37cheatfateand why github shows my PR last
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17:36:25tautologicoAraq_: thanks
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19:15:06antoninHi there!
19:15:26antoninI'm Antonin, a new fan of this wonderful programming language :-)
19:15:40antoninI'm interested to learn more about Nim, and to promote it
19:15:59dom96antonin: hello! Glad to hear it :)
19:16:07antoninAre some people available in Canada - especially Montreal - to discuss about Meetup in Montreal for Nim? :-D
19:16:13antoninHello dom96
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19:36:50Araq_hey antonin. welcome :-)
19:39:47antoninHey Araq_, thanks a lot :-)
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19:46:26antoninAny person interested to meet up in Montreal?
19:46:51antoninAlso, is anybody here is building a lib for deep learning in Mim?
19:47:06antonin(That can be cool to merge Python syntax which the power of C...)
19:47:20antonin(... for deep learning)*
19:47:50dom96antonin: not sure there are that many people from Montreal here
19:48:25antoninCrap...
19:48:26antoninOk, I will try to create this meetup - let's see in anybody is interested ;-)
19:48:35antoninThanks dom96
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19:58:56Araq_antonin: hmm was it you that I told to try c2nim on that deep learning library?
19:59:36antoninNot - just an idea I had 1 hour ago :-/
19:59:58Araq_I quickly skimmed it, I think you can only use Python to produce the model and then load and evaluate it with C++. that Google deep learning lib, forgot its name
20:00:25antoninTensorFlow?
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20:03:27antoninThe idea is just to implement a Machine Learning lib with Nim :-)
20:03:27antoninJust talk about Python and C due to cool syntax and perf of Nim ;-)
20:04:23antoninlike Leaf for Rust
20:05:46Araq_ah cool
20:06:26antoninAlso, can you tell me if a web interface of nimble is available? Like crates.io for Rust
20:06:42antonin(yes, big fan of Rust...)
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20:16:39tautologicothe macro/template/getAst thing worked, nice
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20:52:05dom96antonin: nothing like crates.io but we do have http://nimble-explorer.com/ (it's not official though)
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21:27:53cheatfateAraq_, is there any problems can be happen with openarray[T] if it from shared heap?
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23:09:01Salewskia = "abc" & "\n" # how can I remove that "\n" again from a? Difficult because \n can be OS dependent and one or two chars.
23:09:33Araq_setlen(x, x.len - "\n".len)
23:10:04Araq_but I guess we need a proper 'chop()'
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23:14:13SalewskiThanks Araq!
23:14:37cheatfateSalewski, `\n` is not OS dependent
23:15:51cheatfate`\n` its just a char
23:16:42SalewskiCheatfate, I wrote "\n"
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23:17:29cheatfatein C and i think in NIM too "\n" is a string with 1 byte length
23:18:33SalewskiCheatfate, maybe you should read Dominiks books, or at least the tutorial.
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23:23:55cheatfatelol Salewski was right
23:25:09cheatfateinteresting what history reason to make this nice behavior of "\n"
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23:43:31tautologicoI want a bunch of types to implement the same proc/method... which one is faster: concepts+generics or objects+dynamic dispatch?
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23:53:44dom96the former
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23:59:57tautologicothought so