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05:44:46FromDiscord<heysokam> In reply to @battery.acid.bubblegum "I assume minimal means": knowing the complexity (even at the parser level its already nuts), it could also mean reducing that to a lesser extent
05:52:21FromDiscord<.bobbbob> is there any particular downside to having deepCopy on?
05:52:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You use deepcopy
05:55:12FromDiscord<.bobbbob> I mean if im using it im using it, Im just wondering why theres a special compiler switch to enable it, like does it take up a bunch of program size even if unused?
05:55:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Cause it uses RTTI and Araq thinks it can be better done as a macro
05:57:06FromDiscord<leorize> it specifically needed old RTTI iirc
05:57:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> New RTTI sucks 😄
05:57:37FromDiscord<.bobbbob> ic
05:58:11FromDiscord<heysokam> beef, weren't you doing something with wasm a while back?↵what was it, and are you still working on it?
05:58:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yes, No
05:58:39FromDiscord<heysokam> it was a vm, right?
05:58:51FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Wrapped wasm3 and did a bit of interop with it
05:59:22FromDiscord<heysokam> what made you stop working on it. any showstopper or something?
05:59:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Bope
05:59:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nope even
06:00:06FromDiscord<heysokam> kk
06:00:47FromDiscord<heysokam> I'm currently looking into using wasm as the target for a vm. do you have any good projects to look into for it?
06:01:00FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nope
06:01:13FromDiscord<heysokam> kk ty anyway 🙂
06:01:26FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I did start on a language to compile to wasm, but never got anywhere really
06:02:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Practically got to generating constants and that was it
06:02:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Wasm is fun to generate by hand 😄
06:02:42FromDiscord<heysokam> going down from code to binary is a big goal
06:03:13FromDiscord<heysokam> were you generating wat or binary wasm directly?
06:03:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> binary
06:03:45FromDiscord<heysokam> impressive, I'm super scared of that type of binary codegen
06:03:58FromDiscord<heysokam> feels like wizardry
06:04:00FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's fairly simple to be fair
06:04:26FromDiscord<leorize> it's just a kind of text where most of it is in your compiler rather than the file
06:04:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Oh I actually got all the way down to generating math operators in a hard coded pipeline 😄
06:05:00FromDiscord<heysokam> I guess I don't have a mental model for going from Nim/C/w.e AST to binary/asm instructions
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06:05:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=ktvlnDNm
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06:05:26FromDiscord<leorize> nice
06:05:30FromDiscord<heysokam> neat
06:05:42FromDiscord<heysokam> very clean syntax
06:06:26FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Odin/Nim was the idea
06:07:07FromDiscord<heysokam> how do you get from ast to wasm/asm? how do you think about that part?
06:07:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Walk the tree 😄
06:07:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Hmph I'll throw this on a repo if it'll help any
06:07:51FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There are no comments so only your deity knows how it works now
06:10:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://codeberg.org/ElegantBeef/blaise/src/branch/master/wasmgeneration.nim
06:10:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's not great
06:10:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> But it works
06:10:20FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well worked 😛
06:10:45FromDiscord<leorize> are you shifting to codeberg?
06:10:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yes
06:11:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I still do want to selfhost forgejo
06:12:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Just cannot validate the reverse proxy and local server
06:12:21FromDiscord<leorize> go for it, I hosted mine in \~10mins
06:12:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea it's not hard I did it locally at a point
06:13:59FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> More just I feel like the reverse proxy is a waste of money(and the power for the server), but I don't want to have to manage my IP and doxx myself further than I already do 😛
06:14:35FromDiscord<leorize> you're not using CF?
06:14:42FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I will stab you
06:14:52FromDiscord<leorize> \:p
06:15:18FromDiscord<leorize> get a cheap vps I suppose
06:15:40FromDiscord<leorize> there's a provider in toronto with 10tb bandwidth for $2.5/mo
06:16:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> See that just seems like I'm pissing away $50 and I'm cheap 😛
06:17:18FromDiscord<leorize> you sure you don't wanna use CF? xd
06:17:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yes cause I hate the idea of contributing to the centralized internet
06:17:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Oops someone spilled spaghetti on the CF server and now no site works
06:18:07FromDiscord<leorize> most cdn providers have a reverse proxy offering
06:18:11FromDiscord<leorize> I haven't checked the price though
06:18:26FromDiscord<leorize> CF invested a lot in peering and it really paid off big time
06:21:01FromDiscord<leorize> ah there's one trick, get a free oracle cloud machine
06:21:05FromDiscord<leorize> 1tb bandwidth should be enough
06:21:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'm just too picky and stubborn I should just go with the cheap VPS 😄
06:22:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Young old many yelling at clouds here
06:22:09FromDiscord<heysokam> oh, its not that bad! it looks similar to what I'm doing with transpiling, just that the format is different
06:22:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> man\
06:22:20FromDiscord<heysokam> that was useful to read, tyty
06:22:29FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea compilers are just tree walkers
06:22:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Anyone that says otherwise is lying
06:23:13FromDiscord<heysokam> yea I know that. but expressing stuff in binary, when using higher level constructs, is what tricks me
06:23:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I also have lexer and parser incorrectly named
06:23:22FromDiscord<heysokam> maybe its just wasm being nice to work with
06:23:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Jokes on me for making a language without reading a book
06:24:09FromDiscord<heysokam> its fine, even if you read the book it only starts making sense architercturally by the 10th rewrite ⚰️
06:26:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Should note that leb128 code is a good 90% wrong
06:27:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Discovered that the fun way when I copied it for my vsbf format
06:28:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Shit I just "PIN numbered" my own creation
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07:47:22FromDiscord<pmunch> What do you mean leb128 is 90% wrong?
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11:29:12FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @Elegantbeef "See that just seems": could just hop on mine
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14:21:35FromDiscord<starkiller1493> BuyVM is cheap and has unlimited bandwidth
14:48:23FromDiscord<starkiller1493> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=tjVvmPDG
14:48:51FromDiscord<starkiller1493> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=jxZFgdIX" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=SRPWSZjm"
15:22:42FromDiscord<lainlaylie> you're trying to receive 1024 bytes but only ever send 5
15:39:02FromDiscord<starkiller1493> oh, that's what's wrong, i'm dumb
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16:12:54FromDiscord<user2m> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=hgrfglaH
16:13:08FromDiscord<madonuko> code?
16:14:00Amun-Ralook for compile time code blocks
16:14:08FromDiscord<user2m> The code is a whole web app that I'm coming back to after a few weeks. I don't know what to paste in here because I don't know whats causing it
16:14:12FromDiscord<user2m> In reply to @Amun-Ra "look for compile time": ok
16:14:51Amun-RaI mean in your codde
16:20:49FromDiscord<user2m> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=dazmpVbk
16:33:36FromDiscord<user2m> The app compiles in linux so it's clearly a bug. I recently updated all my pkgs so that makes sense
16:48:23FromDiscord<user2m> WOW ok so after some searching it turns out the issue was in the nimcache?? I created a blank main.nim file that simply contained `import jwt ` and it ran successfully with `nim c -r main.nim` So I went into my nimcache dir and deleted the "app_d" dir and ran the previous file that was causing the EOF error and now it's gone. Where should I report this? Is this an issue with the jwt lib or a nim issue?
16:48:47FromDiscord<leorize> that's a nim issue
16:49:07FromDiscord<leorize> but since you cleared the cache already, there isn't much you could do
16:49:51FromDiscord<user2m> In reply to @leorize "that's a nim issue": how often should I be clearing the cache if ever?
17:05:04FromDiscord<nervecenter> Maybe the compiler should have a builtin cache clear command for clearing `nimcache`?
17:05:18FromDiscord<nervecenter> It's a somewhat common issue
17:05:59Amun-Ra-f, --forceBuild:on|off force rebuilding of all modules
17:06:02Amun-Rathis one?
17:07:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Who are you who is so wise in the ways of science
17:08:27Amun-Ra(:
17:50:56FromDiscord<nervecenter> Ah right
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