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| 02:04:14 | Araq | hi MFlamer |
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| 02:52:00 | dyu | Araq: hows the talk |
| 02:57:20 | Araq | hi dyu the talk went fine I guess |
| 02:58:44 | dyu | was there a live stream? |
| 02:59:24 | dyu | good on you btw, for a first-time major talk |
| 03:00:46 | Araq | are you here? did you see it? |
| 03:01:32 | dyu | nope, but you did say "it went fine i guess" unless ... |
| 03:02:01 | Araq | well a couple of people told me they enjoyed |
| 03:02:03 | Araq | it |
| 03:03:31 | dyu | great |
| 03:03:51 | Araq | I was half through and got told "5 minutes left" :P |
| 03:04:16 | Araq | so ... I had to speed through the rest |
| 03:04:36 | Araq | and wasn't allowed to answer any questions |
| 03:06:09 | dyu | bummer. They probably were behind schedule before your talk started |
| 03:06:21 | Araq | yeah of course |
| 03:06:22 | dyu | That would be cool if he shared his password <-- mflamer |
| 03:06:27 | Araq | but |
| 03:06:30 | dyu | so we can see it :) |
| 03:06:40 | Araq | I got no pw yet |
| 03:07:06 | dyu | but what |
| 03:07:16 | Araq | but since the feedback has been pretty good I suppose I won't watch it and instead simply tell the guys to go ahead and release it |
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| 03:23:08 | dyu | hopefully they email that password asap :-) |
| 03:26:49 | MFlamer_ | any word on how the tlk went? |
| 03:26:53 | MFlamer_ | talk |
| 03:27:34 | Araq | I pretty much redefined the meaning of "to give a talk", MFlamer ;-) |
| 03:30:52 | Araq | nah ... but it went fine |
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| 03:33:30 | MFlamer_ | Great. |
| 03:34:43 | MFlamer_ | How was that BODOL language session? Seems like an interesting language |
| 03:35:29 | Araq | I learned from it that Clojure and Haskell are already perfect |
| 03:37:04 | MFlamer_ | of course |
| 03:38:27 | MFlamer_ | untill you try to create a graph data structure..... |
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| 03:43:34 | Araq | yeah but that's "unnatural" |
| 03:43:41 | Araq | and mutable state is EVIL |
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| 03:48:09 | MFlamer_ | Sinner! |
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| 04:03:30 | filwit | hi folks |
| 04:06:26 | dyu | hey filwit |
| 04:07:27 | filwit | hi dyu, haven't seen you here before :) |
| 04:07:38 | filwit | good to see new faces when i come around |
| 04:07:41 | dyu | yep, I'm new |
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| 12:35:48 | Araq | ping MFlamer |
| 12:38:17 | Araq | well you'll read this when you're around |
| 12:38:48 | Araq | I had an idea; I think the lockfree table stuff should expose how it performs versioning |
| 12:39:07 | Araq | and other lockfree data structures should do the same |
| 12:39:33 | Araq | and then you can easily compose them because you can make them share the version number |
| 12:39:41 | zahary_ | oh, hi Araq, I read that you got good feedback from the talk, kudos |
| 12:39:55 | zahary_ | how many people were there in the audience? |
| 12:40:05 | Araq | about 200 I think |
| 12:40:09 | zahary_ | wow :) |
| 12:40:28 | zahary_ | most of them new to nimrod I guess? |
| 12:40:55 | Araq | yeah but there were quite some people knowing about it already |
| 12:41:03 | Araq | and asking me lots of questions |
| 12:41:13 | Araq | but afterwards because I wasn't allowed any questions |
| 12:41:30 | Araq | because they screwed up their time table a bit |
| 12:41:35 | Araq | in fact |
| 12:41:44 | Araq | I was half done with my talk |
| 12:41:52 | zahary_ | yes, I read that part too |
| 12:41:54 | Araq | and then the guy said "ok, 5 minutes left" |
| 12:42:15 | zahary_ | they give you just 20 minutes or so? |
| 12:42:38 | Araq | well I didn't really skip anything |
| 12:42:45 | Araq | and it took 28 minutes I think |
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| 12:43:34 | zahary_ | it will make you look more energetic :P. you are staying till the end of the conference, right? |
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| 12:44:00 | Araq | right |
| 12:44:00 | zahary_ | the videos will come out only afterwards? |
| 12:44:02 | Araq | there are interesting talks ahead |
| 12:44:15 | Araq | like how scala's macro system will work |
| 12:44:39 | Araq | the videos will come later, in a few months I'm afraid |
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| 12:49:59 | zahary_ | gah, that's how you sell those expensive tickets. is it 8 in the morning where you are? go have a breakfast or something |
| 12:50:23 | Araq | yeah, it's 8 here |
| 12:51:03 | Araq | and there is no need for breakfast. an american lunch lasts a whole day ;-) |
| 12:53:50 | Araq | the talks are uploaded to infoq.com I think |
| 12:55:08 | dyu | sux that it takes so long |
| 12:55:15 | dyu | mornin :) |
| 12:58:30 | Araq | I met yet another core dev of the JVM btw |
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| 12:58:47 | zahary_ | who is the first one? |
| 12:59:17 | Araq | hmm can't remember |
| 12:59:43 | Araq | but he agreed with me on lots of important points :-) |
| 12:59:48 | zahary_ | what did you talk about? |
| 13:00:09 | Araq | JVM, luaJit segregated stacks, GC technology |
| 13:14:24 | Araq | I have to go, see you later |
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| 15:12:05 | dom96 | talking with core JVM devs... I AM SO JEALOUS |
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| 15:36:55 | MFlamer | Araq: I got your message regarding the table. I've just about got Click's table ported. Let me do some testing and bench-marking, then let's discuss |
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| 18:06:03 | reactormonk | http://pastebin.com/ebt8UiBK no contains for seq? |
| 18:08:56 | fowl | reactormonk, you're looking for a cstring in seq[string] |
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| 19:19:24 | reactormonk | duh. |
| 19:29:18 | reactormonk | I know how to cstring -> string, but the other way round :-/ |
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| 21:11:29 | reactormonk | how do I map over $? .map($) tells me it expects an expression, .map(`$`) Error: '$' cannot be passed to a procvar |
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| 22:57:56 | Araq | hi gs welcome |
| 22:58:04 | gs | hi |
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| 23:05:12 | Guest11928 | what's the cleanest way of retrieving some value's pointer as a value of the respective ptr type? "cast[ptr TMyType](addr(myTypeValue))" ? |
| 23:05:54 | fowl | Guest11928, myTypeValue.addr is already going to be ptr TMyType |
| 23:06:18 | Araq | hi fowl |
| 23:06:23 | fowl | hi |
| 23:06:28 | fowl | how did the talk go |
| 23:06:28 | Araq | nobody want to go to east st louis here :P |
| 23:06:36 | fowl | haha did you go |
| 23:06:45 | Araq | every time I get feedback, it's positive |
| 23:07:08 | Araq | but maybe the people who didn't like it, don't come and tell me that? ;-) |
| 23:07:17 | Araq | no, didn't go |
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| 23:08:15 | Araq | hi MFlamer |
| 23:09:17 | Guest11928 | fowl, you're just the person I was looking for :-) For your csfml binding, how would I go about setting up a TRenderStates value, and how do I pass that to draw(TRenderWindow, *Renderable*, PRenderStates)? Because right now when I call it with the extra PRenderStates param I just doesn't draw anything at all. |
| 23:09:49 | MFlamer | Hi Araq |
| 23:09:58 | Guest11928 | (even when I just use a "blank" TRenderStates instance, which should be good to go, right?) |
| 23:10:07 | MFlamer | I got your message regarding the table versioning |
| 23:10:40 | Araq | and you also got the idea? |
| 23:11:32 | fowl | Guest11928, i would assume you just set up blendmode and transform and leave the texture/shader as nil |
| 23:12:10 | MFlamer | I think I get the idea. If we can synchronize the state of multiple lock free structures, then we can compose them? |
| 23:12:12 | fowl | Guest11928, http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=9767.0 |
| 23:12:44 | Araq | yes and all of the state needs to be encoded in the version |
| 23:13:05 | MFlamer | I've almost got Click's table ported to nimrod. I'll do some testing and then think about this a bit..... |
| 23:13:47 | Araq | well I haven't thought it through, maybe it doesn't work |
| 23:13:58 | Araq | you are aware of the ABA problem, right? |
| 23:15:26 | MFlamer | yes, |
| 23:16:43 | fowl | 135/6.0 |
| 23:16:50 | fowl | wrong window |
| 23:19:09 | Guest11928 | fowl: Got it; renderStates.transform needs to be set to IdentityMatrix at the very least of course |
| 23:19:32 | MFlamer | Although I don't have much to comment on about it right now. |
| 23:20:13 | Guest11928 | might be worth it to actually add something like newRenderStates() as a default constructor with the IdentityMatrix set |
| 23:21:18 | MFlamer | Once I get the table expansion dialed, I'll post the code and we can discuss next steps. |
| 23:21:32 | fowl | Guest11928, if you want to ill add you to the repository |
| 23:23:48 | Araq | MFlamer: ok great |
| 23:23:53 | Araq | I have to go |
| 23:24:00 | Araq | some nice party going on soon |
| 23:24:30 | MFlamer | Have fun |
| 23:24:33 | fowl | Araq, we lead the country for years in STDs, bring condoms |
| 23:24:56 | Araq | fowl: XD |
| 23:25:10 | fowl | im being seriosu |
| 23:25:16 | Guest11928 | fowl: sure; you added me to the chipmunk repo before: gsps |
| 23:26:55 | fowl | Guest11928, done, thanks |
| 23:26:56 | MFlamer | that's "fowl" |
| 23:27:04 | MFlamer | I mean foul |
| 23:27:13 | MFlamer | :-) |
| 23:38:01 | Araq | bye |
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