<< 19-09-2023 >>
00:49:46FromDiscord<gbolahan> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/4GLP
01:28:31FromDiscord<odexine> In reply to @sys64 "Did someone already tried": I’m pretty sure many programs that use the SQLite library were tested on Linux first yes
01:38:13FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @gbolahan "During nimble install nimble": I'm confused, why are you trying to install nimble with nimble?↵↵Also, have you tried installing Nim with choosenim instead of brew?
01:41:32FromDiscord<gbolahan> In reply to @michaelb.eth "I'm confused, why are": I was trying to see if I just needed to install a newer version of nimble (expected it to run till I got that error). I haven’t tied using choosenim. What's the expectation?↵↵PS: I did not hace any error when I used brew
01:42:58FromDiscord<raynei486> I feel like it's some sort of version incompatibility going on
01:43:11FromDiscord<raynei486> something in the standard library moved places and the older version isn't following
01:43:34FromDiscord<raynei486> (edit) "following" => "catching on"
01:44:33FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @gbolahan "I was trying to": for now, I suggest `brew uninstall nim` and install choosenim, adding `export PATH=${HOME}/.nimble/bin:${PATH}` to your .bashrc or whatever
01:45:17FromDiscord<gbolahan> I’ll give that a try now
01:46:15FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> you can then try `nimble install nimlangserver` and see if you can get get VSCode talking to that; I don't use VSCode, instead I use Emacs and works well with lsp-mode for Emacs
01:46:28FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> (edit) "you can then try `nimble install nimlangserver` and see if you can get get VSCode talking to that; I don't use VSCode, instead I use Emacs and ... works" added "it"
01:47:19FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> note: nimlangserver is an alternative to `nimlsp`, but both work these days afaik, but with Emacs I've have a better experience with nimlangserver
02:06:13FromDiscord<gbolahan> Just downloaded it. Still no luck
02:06:30FromDiscord<gbolahan> (edit) "downloaded" => "installed"
02:08:10FromDiscord<gbolahan> I guess this is the time I move to Emacs. trouble with proper server response will slow me down faster than getting familiar with a new editor
02:08:35FromDiscord<gbolahan> In reply to @michaelb.eth "you can then try": Do you have your config on github?
02:08:59FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> which config?
02:10:42FromDiscord<gbolahan> In reply to @michaelb.eth "which config?": For emacs. I don’t know how emacs works, so I assumed it would be similar to vim where I have to do some configurations
02:11:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There are emacs and vim distros which are pretty nice
02:11:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Though I've never used emacs myself
02:11:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I do presently use astronvim
02:11:21FromDiscord<odexine> Why would switching editor help?
02:11:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Magic pixies solve all the problems
02:12:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Changing to `nimlangserver` in any editor will result in the same thing that michael is talking about
02:12:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> As an aside I absolutely hate that Micheal and Michael are both names, pick a lane
02:15:17FromDiscord<odexine> I do not acknowledge Micheal to be a real name what the fuck
02:17:02FromDiscord<raynei486> In reply to @gbolahan "I guess this is": doom emacs is nice↵I personally like turning its vim keys off tho
02:17:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Micheal is Gaelic, Michael is from Hebrew, as Gaels originate in the British isles, it's the correct one for English. Fite me 😄
02:17:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Even more bad commas
02:18:53FromDiscord<gbolahan> In reply to @odexine "Why would switching editor": I'm having troubles with the nim server on vscode. I can go to type definition for most files. Sometime it works, most times it doesn’t. Really slow my work
02:19:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So change to nimlangserver
02:19:25FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://github.com/saem/vscode-nim#nim-lanugage-server-integration-experimental
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02:29:23FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/6q4iY
02:31:36FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> However, if you've not used Emacs previously, there's going to be a learning curve that may not be what you want when you're just trying to get started with Nim.
02:33:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Vim might have the "how to exit it" meme. Emacs has the "Whoops I just started the intergrated doom and now no longer want to program. Wait now my PC is flying"
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02:36:39FromDiscord<gbolahan> In reply to @michaelb.eth "However, if you've not": You are right. I just think if I can not get the language server to work with vscode, I'd rather deal with the learning curve of nim than look for where a procedure was defined in a new and very large codebase
04:49:27FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @sys64 "Well, even on a": Because the issue is very highly unlikely with the OS, but the way you're interacting with it.↵At least that would've been my first guess and where I'd be doing research.↵I mean you got the error message, you can always try to provide a custom proc to generate an sqlite connection
05:12:12FromDiscord<odexine> i'd like to know the repro. code
05:24:46FromDiscord<Phil> Of System64's problem?
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06:22:25FromDiscord<griffith1deadly> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "Anyone know what'd be": raw nanovg
06:26:38FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> No idea what that is
07:19:47NimEventerNew thread by fsh: Range[a..b] semantics is a bit unclear to me, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/10492
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07:39:41FromDiscord<odexine> the first few ones seem to be an implicit generics problem
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08:08:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Taking only a short look almost all seem to be due to implicit generics
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08:41:38FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Is it normal I have this segfault?↵Seems it's not on my side https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1153611849011564614/message.txt
08:42:38FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> It works fine on Windows
08:44:57FromDiscord<mratsim> In reply to @sys64 "Is it normal I": I think there is a bug in httpbeast multithreading, a ref object was passed around and the ref was incremented or something
08:45:12FromDiscord<mratsim> try --mm:atomicRef just in case
08:45:47FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @mratsim "try --mm:atomicRef just in": Is it based on ARC?
08:47:58FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> I'd assume atomic ref is based on refc tbh judging by the name
08:48:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nope it's atomic ref counted arc
08:48:21FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Oh huh
08:48:28FromDiscord<mratsim> yes it's arc-based
08:49:07FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Does that actually fix the issues to do with threading and arc? Meaning that data shared between threads is memory safe? Or am I misunderstanding
08:50:21FromDiscord<mratsim> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "Does that actually fix": it might
08:50:31FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Hm
08:50:32FromDiscord<mratsim> I would have to see, many subtelties
08:50:42FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Again https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1153614132076093470/message.txt
08:50:44FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Fair, I also wonder if it hurts speed
08:50:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It prevents a double free when you share refs across threads
08:50:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It hurts speed mainly on older processors
08:51:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> If you are just reading from data and do not need to free you can send the ref as a pointer
08:51:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Free it on the main thread and own it that way
08:51:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Or use Gcref
08:53:05FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Might it be because pointer size are different between gcc and Nim?
08:53:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You get an error if that's the case
08:57:22FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Weird I have this segfault then
09:16:31FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> I tried MarkAndSweep garbage collection, but I have an incredible amout of lag
09:25:15FromDiscord<mratsim> In reply to @sys64 "I tried MarkAndSweep garbage": mark and sweep cannot deal with threads.
09:25:52FromDiscord<mratsim> The lag is probably due to `false sharing`. But that's the best case.
09:27:32FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/4GNb
09:28:21FromDiscord<mratsim> In reply to @sys64 "OOF What should I": does `--mm:atomicArc` help?
09:28:43FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @mratsim "does `--mm:atomicArc` help?": No
09:29:52FromDiscord<mratsim> how easy it is for you to create a minimal reproducible example?
09:30:59FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> It will be quite hard, but I have a repo with the code
09:31:16FromDiscord<ringabout> Maybe use `refc` or use the latest version of httpbeast, which mitigated some problems regarding ORC.
09:31:37PMunchDamn, Nim is pretty tiny..
09:31:46PMunchOh wait..
09:31:50FromDiscord<mratsim> yeah seems like there are some issues:↵↵- https://github.com/dom96/httpbeast/issues/90↵- https://github.com/dom96/httpbeast/issues/80
09:32:23PMunchNever mind, I was checking the choosenim shim :P
09:32:32FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @ringabout "Maybe use `refc` or": Is that the latest version? ``[email protected]``
09:32:37PMunchI mean it's still pretty small, 8.7M on my machine
09:32:46FromDiscord<mratsim> use https://github.com/dom96/httpbeast/pull/89 the `initSettings` function.
09:33:44FromDiscord<ringabout> In reply to @sys64 "Is that the latest": Nope, https://github.com/dom96/httpbeast/issues/91 it isn't properly tagged. You might need the head version of httpbeast
09:34:28FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @ringabout "Nope, https://github.com/dom96/httpbeast/issues/91 ": Oh, so I have to add ``#head`` in the Nimble?
09:34:38FromDiscord<ringabout> I suppose so.,
09:36:51FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4GNg
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09:59:06FromDiscord<odexine> In reply to @PMunch "Never mind, I was": Lol
10:10:08FromDiscord<Phil> @System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet Seeing that you had a connection pool of like 10.000 connections was actually quite funny 😄
10:10:24FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @isofruit "<@380360389377916939> Seeing that you": Yeah 🤣
10:11:02FromDiscord<Phil> Like a casual 3 orders of magnitude larger than most enterprises even need db connections for
10:11:11FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "3" => "2"
10:12:34FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Wooops! My bad then!↵Btw why is my game running way faster on Linux than Windows?
10:13:04FromDiscord<odexine> ~~windows is just that bad~~ could be any reason
10:13:21FromDiscord<odexine> Not uncommon for games to work better on Linux than on windows
10:13:48FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4GNn
10:14:43FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4GNo
10:19:19FromDiscord<odexine> NGL it’s a miracle that even worked normally on windows because the CPU time procedure is defined as floating point seconds
10:19:30FromDiscord<odexine> And TPS delay is defined as floating point milliseconds
10:24:55FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @odexine "NGL it’s a miracle": And it differs on Linux?
10:25:11FromDiscord<odexine> No
10:28:05FromDiscord<odexine> It’s probably better to use monotimes and (nanosecond, or microsecond even) integers to keep the floats out
10:30:21FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @odexine "It’s probably better to": Oh alright↵kinda strange it works fine on Windows
10:30:51FromDiscord<odexine> Not sure why
10:32:25FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @odexine "It’s probably better to": And for the sleep command?
10:33:14FromDiscord<odexine> Sleep takes an integer in the first place
10:40:58FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @odexine "Sleep takes an integer": I think sleep is in miliseconds?
10:41:09FromDiscord<odexine> Integer division
10:43:22FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @odexine "Integer division": wdym?
10:43:33FromDiscord<odexine> Just divide the number?
10:43:44FromDiscord<odexine> Have microseconds? Divide by 1000
10:45:26FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Oh alright↵Microseconds might be enough for a game
10:47:28FromDiscord<Phil> Given that you only really notice ms when it comes to visual fidelity, yeah seems fair
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11:11:07FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4GNz
11:14:33FromDiscord<odexine> typeof game.infos.timestart?
11:15:01FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @odexine "typeof game.infos.timestart?": It's a MonoTime
11:15:11FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> same for timeFinish
11:16:05FromDiscord<odexine> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/EebqR
11:16:34FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @odexine "sleep(delta.inMilliseconds)": And should I keep the if statement?
11:16:56FromDiscord<odexine> i dont know what that if statement is checking
11:17:18FromDiscord<odexine> what happened to TPS_DELAY?
11:17:31FromDiscord<odexine> why's the code so different?
11:17:47FromDiscord<odexine> why are you sleeping for the delta?
11:18:09FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @odexine "why are you sleeping": I want to have only 60 ticks per seconds
11:19:33FromDiscord<odexine> your code is going to give you 1 tick per 60 seconds
11:19:44FromDiscord<odexine> wait
11:19:49FromDiscord<odexine> it's just weird
11:20:03FromDiscord<odexine> what happened to the old code with the TPS_DELAY??
11:20:09FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> I changed it
11:20:10FromDiscord<odexine> why didnt you just directly convert that
11:20:47FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> I should divide TPS_DELAY by 1000?
11:20:57FromDiscord<odexine> what
11:21:02FromDiscord<odexine> wait here
11:21:22FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Wdym?
11:22:28FromDiscord<odexine> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4GNG
11:23:11FromDiscord<odexine> or if you want you can make the delay a Duration and use the Duration functions
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11:34:55FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> I can do that too
11:36:18PMunchDoes Nim itself need `-lm` for anything?
11:43:02FromDiscord<odexine> std/math
11:45:28PMunchApart from that
11:46:42FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4GNL
11:47:04FromDiscord<odexine> ??????????????????????????????
11:47:31FromDiscord<odexine> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4GNN
11:47:52FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> This is something similar, no?
11:48:15FromDiscord<odexine> there's a reason i wrote it the way i did
11:48:22FromDiscord<odexine> well
11:48:29FromDiscord<odexine> ig its irrelevant other than code readability
11:48:45FromDiscord<odexine> i dont feel like reading that anymore so you have fun
11:49:29FromDiscord<odexine> perhaps print the deltas you're getting and see if they look :sane"
11:49:31FromDiscord<odexine> (edit) ":sane"" => ""sane""
11:55:11FromDiscord<requiresupport> any libs that allow creation of password protected archives? pref something with no C dependencies
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12:23:07NimEventerNew thread by Araq: The secret of Nim, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/10493
12:27:09NimEventerNew thread by CircArgs: Concepts and openArray, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/10494
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12:45:37FromDiscord<enthus1ast> @requiresupport\: not that i know of, zippy does not support encryption (yet?)
12:46:17FromDiscord<requiresupport> yeah that's the one I'm eyeing, last I checked it didn't unless something got updated
12:46:40FromDiscord<requiresupport> (edit)
12:46:52FromDiscord<enthus1ast> nope
12:47:32FromDiscord<requiresupport> I guess I can manually encrypt the archive 🤔
12:48:23FromDiscord<enthus1ast> when you're the only one that need to decrypt it sure
12:56:13FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> How does encryption of archives work exactly? Is there a link for it?
12:56:16FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> For implementation of it
13:05:41FromDiscord<enthus1ast> idk if there even is a real standard for zip
13:08:07FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Fair
13:10:09FromDiscord<ShalokShalom (ShalokShalom)> Dolphin, my file manager, gives me options to encrypt 7zip and zip
13:10:27FromDiscord<ShalokShalom (ShalokShalom)> All other file archive formats that it offers, have no such option
13:10:48FromDiscord<ShalokShalom (ShalokShalom)> Screenshot\_20230919\_150928.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1153679584684933212/Screenshot_20230919_150928.png
13:10:56FromDiscord<ShalokShalom (ShalokShalom)> I dont know, which Nim implementation would support that.
13:11:34FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Zippy doesn't have that but it possibly could if it's implemented, I'd be interested at taking a crack at it but no idea how/where to start
13:12:27FromDiscord<nnsee> https://pkware.cachefly.net/webdocs/APPNOTE/APPNOTE-6.3.9.TXT
13:12:34FromDiscord<nnsee> ctrl-f _encryption_
13:12:36FromDiscord<ShalokShalom (ShalokShalom)> I guess at some reference implementation?
13:13:35FromDiscord<nnsee> sorry, that was an older version
13:13:38FromDiscord<nnsee> https://pkware.cachefly.net/webdocs/casestudies/APPNOTE.TXT
13:14:55FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> In reply to @ShalokShalom (ShalokShalom) "I guess at some": Not sure where to find that lol
13:15:09FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> In reply to @nnsee "https://pkware.cachefly.net/webdocs/casestudies/APP": Guessing this is a reference on how it should be implemented?
13:15:51FromDiscord<ShalokShalom (ShalokShalom)> It seems like 7zip has this build in.
13:17:22FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "Guessing this is a": yeah, it's the zip file reference which details how encryption works
13:17:31FromDiscord<nnsee> this is the "ultimate truth"
13:18:07FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Interesting
13:18:17FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Also wordy lol
13:18:41FromDiscord<nnsee> it's pretty concise as far as standards go
13:20:08FromDiscord<ShalokShalom (ShalokShalom)> Sorry, I meant 7z.
13:20:24FromDiscord<ShalokShalom (ShalokShalom)> And yeah, but .zip and .7z can do that out of the box
13:20:47FromDiscord<ShalokShalom (ShalokShalom)> I would have thought, that is an afterthought by some third party tools, but I was wrong.
13:21:05FromDiscord<ShalokShalom (ShalokShalom)> [Edit](https://discord.com/channels/371759389889003530/371759389889003532/1153682002504069262): And yeah, both .zip and .7z can do that out of the box
13:45:21FromDiscord<voidwalker> https://github.com/dom96/nimbox/tree/master - anyone have any idea where termbox.h is supposed to go ? Or does it need other files as well ?
13:46:35PMunchvoidwalker, wild guess is that you're supposed to install it via your package manager
13:52:09FromDiscord<voidwalker> welp, t he AUR package is broken
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13:52:48FromDiscord<voidwalker> it seems termbox2 is the proper replacement, but that doesn't seem to be wrapped for nim
13:53:32FromDiscord<jmgomez> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4GOs
14:14:05NimEventerNew thread by void09: High level TUI framework (or wrapper of), see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/10495
14:16:59FromDiscord<swag_1337> erm are there any dimscord forks for selfbots?
14:23:35FromDiscord<odexine> no
14:24:08FromDiscord<odexine> if you're daring you can ask the dedicated dimscord server
14:55:02FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> In reply to @jmgomez "Updated the `Why Nim`": great write ✍️
15:04:21FromDiscord<_gumbercules> In reply to @jmgomez "Updated the `Why Nim`": IC has been in the works for multiple years at this point
15:05:07FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> What's the challenges with implementing IC?
15:05:25FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> From a clueless outsider point of view
15:05:26FromDiscord<_gumbercules> I think there are a few things in there you're giving Nim a bit too much credit for, but overall it's not a bad explanation as to why.
15:06:12FromDiscord<_gumbercules> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "What's the challenges with": I imagine the reason that it's complicated, in the case of Nim anyway, is because of macros
15:06:41FromDiscord<_gumbercules> But I don't really know because I don't work on the compiler - the idea behind IC is to only need to recompile what has changed
15:08:45FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Hm fair
15:08:45FromDiscord<_gumbercules> most compilers have a few phases - first they parse, then they lex, then they do semantic analysis then they will produce a syntax tree or some IR and then they'll generally generate some code from that
15:09:22FromDiscord<_gumbercules> so IC would involve (I imagine) caching results from various stages of this compilation pipeline so that they can be reused later
15:09:34FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Wouldn't a reasonable solution be to generate a hash of the file, and output some file that stores the generated AST + that hash?
15:09:44FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> And if that hash changed, then to regenerate the AST?
15:09:52FromDiscord<_gumbercules> and I imagine the complexity arises when programs munge the AST Nim prodcues via macros
15:09:54FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> THo idk nim internals so
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15:10:14FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> In reply to @_gumbercules "and I imagine the": Fair
15:10:19FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Also compile-time logic
15:10:33FromDiscord<_gumbercules> I don't even want to guess at solutions because people that know the Nim compiler have been working on IC since prior to Nimskull even being a thought
15:11:11FromDiscord<_gumbercules> and after all that time I don't think we're any closer to IC than we were then besides having tried and failed a bunch of times
15:11:24FromDiscord<_gumbercules> so in that case maybe we are closer but it's not a very transparent thing so 🤷
15:11:47FromDiscord<_gumbercules> last I heard the approach that had been being worked on needed to be scrapped and it was back to the drawing board
15:11:53FromDiscord<jmgomez> In reply to @_gumbercules "IC has been in": that's marketing material only 😛
15:11:57FromDiscord<_gumbercules> but maybe things have progressed since then - I'm not sure
15:12:21FromDiscord<_gumbercules> In reply to @jmgomez "that's marketing material only": haha yeah - just trying to be realistic
15:12:30FromDiscord<jmgomez> IC kinda works when mm:none 😛 Im trying to help here and there. The issue right now is that it is too slow
15:13:12FromDiscord<_gumbercules> haha I'm just saying I've heard it before 😛
15:13:21FromDiscord<_gumbercules> IC is almost ready
15:13:23FromDiscord<_gumbercules> IC is almost working
15:13:29FromDiscord<_gumbercules> IC is just around the corner
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16:00:47NimEventerNew thread by rajmac: Ggplotnim and lapack, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/10496
16:24:36FromDiscord<.aingel.> Is IC a priority?
16:25:44FromDiscord<leorize> it was
16:25:56FromDiscord<leorize> probably still is
16:49:45FromDiscord<ezquerra> In reply to @jmgomez "IC kinda works when": How can you enable it?
16:51:59FromDiscord<jmgomez> In reply to @ezquerra "How can you enable": `--ic` or `--incremental:on` but rembember to also do `--mm: none` it should work for small programs like that. But again is quite slow
16:52:09FromDiscord<jmgomez> (edit) "again" => "again,"
16:52:30FromDiscord<jmgomez> (edit) "is" => "it's"
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16:54:01FromDiscord<inv2004> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4GPp
16:54:14NimEventerNew thread by Levlan: Just installed nim 2.0 and vscodium can't run a nim program, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/10497
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17:26:16FromDiscord<_gumbercules> In reply to @inv2004 "Hi, I have a": probably because you could blow the stack - I'm not sure what the implementation of `decode` looks like
17:26:44FromDiscord<inv2004> In reply to @_gumbercules "probably because you could": but I suppose it is applicable for non-gc too
17:27:07FromDiscord<_gumbercules> sure but by default Nim is garbage collected
17:27:55FromDiscord<inv2004> yep, it is from anonimongo - it is just some bson parser - I think it is ok to be recusive here, but I still cannot get the reason for non-gcsafe
17:28:24FromDiscord<_gumbercules> could ask in #internals probably more likely to get an answer there from someone who works on the compiler
17:35:35NimEventerNew thread by DMisener: New OSX weirdness - extraneous ld warning, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/10498
17:35:55FromDiscord<jmgomez> I think the reason is that you need to mark it manually because the compiler cant analyze it properly because of its recursion nature
17:36:16FromDiscord<jmgomez> (edit) "recursion" => "recursive"
17:54:18arkanoidI have a little endian hex encoded bytes, and I want to turn them into an int. For example "0100" little-endian is "0001" big-endian and then 1u16. This seems the right function, but it doesn't handle little-endianess https://nim-lang.org/docs/strutils.html#parseHexInt%2Cstring. How would you perform the endian conversion on hex strings?
18:00:52FromDiscord<leorize> I think you can just read it into a number and endian-swap that number
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18:38:26Amun-Raor reverse the string then parse
18:38:42Amun-Rafirst method proposed is faster
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18:44:26FromDiscord<leorize> that wouldn't be correct
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18:44:38FromDiscord<leorize> a hex character is only 4 bits
18:48:58Amun-Raah, hex, I saw "0001" and assumed binary
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19:32:05FromDiscord<.aingel.> For futhark how do I do "--passL:"-l<library name>"
19:32:30FromDiscord<.aingel.> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4GQd
19:32:38FromDiscord<.aingel.> I guess in compile right
19:32:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You can either pass it as a command line argument, in a config, or in a passl pragma
19:34:11FromDiscord<.aingel.> oh okay
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19:37:10FromDiscord<.aingel.> Do you know what syspath is in futhark?
19:37:19FromDiscord<.aingel.> What is syspath vs path
19:37:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sys path is your include path
19:38:31FromDiscord<.aingel.> And path?
19:38:44FromDiscord<.aingel.> I thought path was the include path
19:38:45FromDiscord<.aingel.> for headers
20:03:35FromDiscord<.aingel.> So without using pkg-config, is there a way to tell what -l flag to use to include a library?
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20:18:48FromDiscord<.aingel.> How do I send stdout for c interop?
20:21:00FromDiscord<.aingel.> Like the stdout file
20:23:07FromDiscord<raynei486> write to stdout?
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20:26:27FromDiscord<.aingel.> Well I have to pass a filehandle to a function
20:26:32FromDiscord<.aingel.> A file
20:26:36FromDiscord<.aingel.> And it will write it to that
20:26:42FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So pass `stdout`
20:26:49FromDiscord<.aingel.> How do I pass that to c
20:26:53FromDiscord<.aingel.> just putting stdout doesn't work
20:26:55FromDiscord<.aingel.> from nim
20:30:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> PS if you elaborate what "doesn't work" entails people can help
20:30:14FromDiscord<.aingel.> Sorry
20:30:34FromDiscord<.aingel.> `discard xmlDocDump(cast[ptr structsfile](stdout), doc);`
20:30:36FromDiscord<.aingel.> I had to do it this way
20:32:40FromDiscord<.aingel.> By not working I guess I was getting a type mismatch on compile, when I just tried to pass stdout into the c wrapped function xmlDocDump (wrapped by futhark)
20:32:58FromDiscord<.aingel.> But yeah I just checked what the compiler was type it wanted and casted it, and it worked
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20:39:20FromDiscord<raynei486> e.g. post errors?
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20:57:28FromDiscord<Langosta> ===
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21:18:50FromDiscord<millymox> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/4GQB
21:29:38FromDiscord<.aingel.> How do I access an array element using c interop?
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21:32:54FromDiscord<.aingel.> Like the data I get back from the c function is an array (pointer to the array). How do I access elements within that array in nim?
21:32:55Amun-Raif you have just a ptr type make it ptr UncheckedArray[type]
21:34:00FromDiscord<.aingel.> Right
21:34:23FromDiscord<.aingel.> Okay that seems to have worked!
21:56:51NimEventerNew thread by jlhouchin: Mindset Nim, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/10499
22:11:18FromDiscord<manaravak> Just discovered nim. Was curious if there is a way to call nim code from JS/TS. I have some hobby projects using electron vue3 and it'd be nice to build out some modules in a language that is much faster (fluid simulation stuff). Thought it might be nice to port some code over as a way to try out nim.
22:31:27arkanoidmanaravak, it depends on your target platform
22:32:37FromDiscord<manaravak> In reply to @arkanoid "<@190955381990621185>, it depends on": Right now just Windows.
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23:20:20NimEventerNew thread by Millymox: How to bind and utilize JavaScripts “new” operator while passing args, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/10500
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